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[GypsyRoseLee]

It was day 5 of my combi tabs on Femoston 2/10 yesterday. Felt anxious all day, and last night was miserable, only felt better just before bedtime, probably because I was just so tired.

Slept find, but felt very jittery on waking, and quite nauseous. This is just how I was last month on the combi tabs of 1/10. I am just don't think I can tolerate the synthetic progesterone at all, it just makes me feel wretched and despairing.

We're going away for a few days next week, and I just cane face the thought of feeling like this then. There have already been so many ruined trips and special days these last 2 years.

So, this morning I have started a new pack of 2/10 and I'm just going to stay on the oestrogen only tabs until I see Annie Evans in just under 3 weeks. I am still having a withdrawal bleed, so I'm not worried about the lining of my womb building up.

I don't actually know if I am definitely doing the right thing? I had hoped that the higher oestrogen in 2/10 would oppose the progesterone more robustly, but it obviously haven't, and I just can't face another 8 days of this + another few days while the oestrogen only tabs kick in (which is what happened last month).

Wish me luck x

[GypsyRoseLee]

Thanks sparkle. It's not what I want to do, I feel I'm being feeble by giving up. But I really suffered through the combi tabs on 1/10 last month, and history is just repeating itself this month. Within 36 hours on the combi tabs all my symptoms were back.

I am soooooo angry that I can't tolerate progesterone. Then again, my body hates even my own natural progesterone hence a lifetime of PMS, so it stands to reason that I won't be able to deal with synthetic progesterone, even the kinder one in Femostan.

Just hoping being back on oestrogen only will really lift my mood over the weekend.

[Tinkerbellj]

Just wanted to say I was exactly the same lifetime of pms and 6 different hrt later including femiston and now on nothing waiting to get baseline bloods done again. Not much hep but just wanted to give a bit of support totally empathise xxx

[GypsyRoseLee]

Thank you Tinkerbelji, I know you have really been through the wars with similar symptoms too.

How are you coping on no HRT? Better or worse?

[Tinkerbellj]

Im not sure lol moods r still really low but haven't had any flushes and the stomach pain has gone. So much for diverticulitis.  I swear the hormones in the hrt were aggravating my stomach or my endo....not that gp or gynae believed me. My period is due today and exactly 28 days since my last one I can feel its on its way. Totally regular and always have been thats what I don't  understand even on the mirenA I still had a period every month all be it ligjter. Weird thing too my boobs r really sore.never were on any of the hrt. I think I am just really weird!

[GypsyRoseLee]

We're both weird. My boobs used to be agony back before peri, but since peri they suddenly shrunk a bit and were never painful again. Even on HRT and BCP they never changed.

Then suddenly, on Femoston my boobs have been painful and swollen for the last 4 weeks.

[Lizab]

Aww, GRL, I hope you have a stretch of good days for your trip. I completely sympathize.

[Kathleen]

Hello GypsyRoseLee.

Just wanted to send hugs and staying on the oestrogen only tabs is exactly what I would do in your position. It won't do you any harm until your appointment. I am one of the ladies that agreed to eat floor polish if it would help and I still would lol!

Wishing you well, enjoy your trip and look forward to a fresh start with Annie Evans.

Take care.

K.

[GypsyRoseLee]

Thank you lizab.

I had a lovely stretch of those 10 good days last week, which made me realise how I 'should' feel. But the synthetic progesterone just seems such a huge stumbling block for me. But I know I'm not the only one who just can't tolerate it on here?

I'm already starting to feel a little bit brighter inside as it's been nearly 36 hours since I last took a combi tab.

Unless you've suffered from severe progesterone intolerance, and the awful anxiety and misery it can cause, it's hard to understand how dreadful it can make you feel.

Why is progesterone intolerance so rarely discussed openly? Some GPs refuse to believe it exists! That Spanish consultant I saw at the Meno Clinic was very dismissive when I said I had reacted badly to the Mirena.

[GypsyRoseLee]

Thank you Kathleen, I know you're a fellow mood swings/anxiety sufferer too. Yes, I would drink rat pee if it would stop the symptoms!

It's just so frustrating how awful synth progesterone makes me feel.

I wonder if perhaps too much risk is attached to only using oestrogen? If Prof Studd advocates only using 100mg of progesterone for just 7 days per month (and he is the world expert) then why on Earth does HRT often contain TWICE that amount of progesterone and you have to take it for TWICE as long per month???

Most women struggling with HRT, struggle with the progesterone component, so taking progesterone for half the month is like throwing lighter fuel on to a fire, surely?

At the Meno Clinic the one decent doctor I saw had a very laissez faire attitude to when/how often I took the Utro. She had no problem at all with me going 6 or even 8 weeks without Utro. She just told me to make the Utro 'fit around my life'. And I took Utro 200mg 3 times...first time only for 11 days, second time for 10 days, third time for 12 days and the withdrawal bleed was exactly the same each time.

I do believe the amount of progesterone we're told to take in most HRT is far too much, for too long. It's crazy that we're all told to take exactly the same amount, regardless of age, lifestyle, weight, symptoms etc. It is SUCH a blunt tool!

[Niamh]

Oh GLR im so sorry to read all of this I totally emphasise we have very similar backgrounds of PND, chronic pmt, severe prog intolerance and that nasty Mirena sending us both mad! I totally know that evil anxiety and depression. As you know I see Studd and I think he's brilliant for ladies like us and his regime is the best. I am certain Dr annie will give you this so I wanted you to have hope. I still get a few issues namely sleep related and a bit grumpy on the Utro BUT compared to where I was its a million miles away. I use utro 100mg for 7 days vaginally, it still causes me issues and this month I gave up at 6 days but I'm still getting a good bleed. Anyway big hug there is light I really think this will work for you and can't wait to hear about your visit to Dr annie x

[Niamh]

How did you find the Utro before btw?x

[GypsyRoseLee]

That's so kind of you Niamh, as I do need some hope to cling on to.

We are so similar in our medical history of hormone issues. I can handle a bit of grumpiness or tiredness each month, but I just can't stand anymore of this poisonous anxiety and low mood that just descends out of nowhere.

Last night I felt so dreadful and knotted with anxiety that I had to ask DH to collect our DC from a party as I just couldn't face the drive, trying to find the house, well everything. It is SO not me, to be like that and I hate it.

I can't wait to see Annie Evans and expect her to recommend the regime you are on.

[GypsyRoseLee]

I think I was pretty okay on it? I took 200mg orally each time. I expected huge rolls of thunder the first time I took it, but it was actually an anti climax. I think I might have had issues when I stopped taking it maybe? Need to check back.in my mood diary.

[Niamh]

I found even 100mg orally dreadful but vaginally a different ball game. It makes me knocked out and tired the first few days and day 1 really nauseous like morning sickness. Then by day 4-5 grumpy and sleep starts to get a bit dodgy then yes definately coming off it for 2/3 days I feel rough but it's nowhere near as bad as the anxiety, depression and insomnia I had...this left me just literally sobbing in a corner wanting to crawl under a stone so I totally get it!!!

This will work for you honey hang in there. I still get rough patches tho when I despair but Its still never as bad xxx