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[Dulciana]

Baked potatoes............love them!..........glad we're coming into autumn   

[Taz2]

I like most fruit and veg but they no longer like me. I'm trying to work out which are the worst culprits bowel wise. Peas are definitely off the menu together with cauliflower and broccoli. Carrots are also suspect although they don't show up as being an IBS related problem food. Lovely fresh runner beans from the allotment are also something I can only eat if I don't have to travel too far a few hours later.  Potatoes with skins on have to be avoided too.

Apples are ok if I peel them but then surely I'm losing most of the goodness? Raspberries and strawberries caused lots of morning traumas!!

Obviously stress comes into it too but trying to avoid fibre seems the way to go but I'm not sure what this is doing healthwise!

Taz x

[honeybun]

I have been changing my diet recently and after years of eating micro size portions of fruit and veg and also trying to avoid fibre I have been slowly adding in more.....and perversely my IBS has been ok.
I think I have caused myself other bowel issues by my blandish diet such as diverticulitis.

Perhaps the key is to bulk things out rather than the opposite.

I really don't know but up until now my D type is improving.


Honeybun
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[GeordieGirl]

Avoiding fruit and veg is a sure fire way to head towards serious illnesses - these should constitute at least half of our diet (organic), but preferably closer to 80% if you're fighting any conditions. Unfortunately out nation thinks they can survive from boxes, tins or jars with all the sugar, salt and additives they contain - and then wonder why cancer and other serious conditions are increasing wildly...

[getting_old]

I was going to say I like most veg but I'd forgotten the more "exotic" ones like aubergine (never tried it), lentils (ate an entire loaf once when new flatmate insisted I try her lentil soup which was horrid), and I never classed onions as a veg (can't stand them either) so I'd say my veg tastes are pretty limited 
Fruit-wise I stick to the berries and try to have a portion every day.

[Taz2]

I appreciate what you are saying GeordieGirl but it's really difficult when the very things we need to keep us healthy keep us confined to the house due to totally unpredictable bowels! I really don't know what the answer is!

Taz x

[honeybun]

Have you tried a very small increase Taz, as you know I'm pretty similar to you.

Very small though.


Honeyb
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[Taz2]

Just trying things out now really but will add back small amounts to see what happens. My IBS used to be ok as long as I was awake at least two hours before leaving the house so that I knew that things had settled but now it can happen at any time during the day (night is still ok which I know would be a warning sign that something more than IBS could be happening) and this has been attributed to the effects of the hysterectomy. The bowel has sort of settled itself into the gap left by the uterus and isn't sitting comfy apparently!

Taz x

[CLKD]

Carrots are roughage ;-).  Unless picked as baby veg. and steamed served with lashings of butter, they can be difficult to digest.  My dog ate raw carrots daily and sometimes when checking her poo   

As for eating lots of: no point if one can no longer tolerate it.  We grow soft fruits but this year for some reason they were very sour  even the white currants which I love.  Runner beans failed suddenly maybe due to a combination of high winds for weeks as well as lack of rain.

Tinned fruit and veg. are OK dependant on what they are canned in.  Best to buy when they are cheap and can/bottle your own! but then you need storage space  .  Freezing is best, don't blanch no need; wash, drain, bag into useable sizes and freeze as fast as possible.

Apparently peas are a no-no for those who sport a colostomy bag 

[honeybun]

The thing is we need to eat roughage to have a healthy bowel.
Carrots are ok but not with loads of butter....think of cholesterol CLKD 

I am very very slowly reintroducing fibre back into my diet. Having shredded wheat with raisins for breakfast, or porridge with blueberries.
Lunch with salad and then a banana.
Dinner with two small portion of veg.

This is so different for me as I also needed to get out of the house of a morning and being stuck in with the morning rush was not great.
I also felt the little I was eating was going through too quick and down the loo.

What I'm hoping by adding in extra bulk is I might get a bit more goodness from my food.

I think the key is adding it in very very slowly to accustom the bowel to having a bit of bulk.


Honeybun
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[oldsheep]

Taz - I have a lot of banned veggies and fruit on my low FODmap diet (it's annoyingly restrictive, but it avoids a lot of pain from IBS). They include onions, any pulses or beans and lentils, peas, broccoli, cabbage, brussels sprouts, mange tout....annoying! Apparently they've been proven to irritate the bowel.
I ignored the advice to avoid garlic and am fine with it.
Fruit wise, apples are apparently the biggest baddie (it's the fructose). I'm not allowed mangoes any longer. I might try to reintroduce them. I'm getting bored with the restrictions on fruit.
I miss lentils and chickpeas, but they did definitely upset me - 6 months pregnant-look and severe pain.

[CLKD]

All those are mainly 'water' = wind production 

Garlic is an astringent.  Initially it gave me heartburn but we persevered, now I love it.  Ginger is good for the diet too.  Lots of Indian recipes are eaten in a certain way, although all served to the table at the same time there are side dishes which cleanse the pallet. 

[honeybun]

Water does not cause wind. It's the fermentation of certain foods in the gut that causes the wind.


Yet they say that fermented food is very good for the bowel as it encourages the growth of good bacteria. One of those foods is sauerkraut. It's suppose to be the best form of prebiotic.
If you can't tolerate that then you can buy pre....not pro biotic pills.
You can also use other foods as digestive enzymes. Pineapple is one of the best ones....really helps digest food. Again you can buy digestive enzyme pills to help.

Honeybun.
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[CLKD]

Lots of 'greens' are mainly water based therefore no 'roughage' properties to slow their process through the alimentary system, little goodness and if lettuce is fed to bunnies in quantity then the bunnies will die - it bloats them up.  Hence the need to feed bunnies a varied diet with very little lettuce in it, I find lettuce boring anyway >yawn< 

[GeordieGirl]

I appreciate what you are saying GeordieGirl but it's really difficult when the very things we need to keep us healthy keep us confined to the house due to totally unpredictable bowels! I really don't know what the answer is!

Taz x

Out of interest, have you cut out all wheat Taz? We've cut right back on wheat / sweet (sugar)/ meat and dairy and everything works like clockwork. Most boxes and tins are banned. My daughter knows immediately now when she's had wheat as her eczema flares up, I know because of the lethargy and bloated feeling.

There are a number of cancer treatments that major on fruit and veg, and one in particular includes a lot of veg in soup format to make it easier digestible for the weak.  I often have a soup on the go, I just chuck in whatever veg I've bought and boil and simmer with some herbs, spices and lentils and it's a good filler.  (Organic veg much better).  It's an easy way to get a number of your veg portions a day.
GG x