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[Pennyfarthing]

Anyone know the outcome?

I did sign the petition & got an email saying it was going to be read out in the house of commons etc. I was told I would also get an email of the outcome but nothing so far.

The full transcript is now online and you should get an email with the link if you signed the petition.

[Cazikins]

Yep, the email with the link came through at 3.30.... not read it yet.
Here is the video link:
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/bf878aac-b8e6-40a2-bc03-9bbe5254fc92
And here is the transcript:
https://hansard.digiminster.com/commons/2016-02-01/debates/16020126000001/TransitionalStatePensionArrangementsForWomen

Well I have just had a quick look at the last 5 minutes of the video link & the vote went NO... but what that means I have no idea......

[ariadne]

I've had a quick look through twice and still can't work out what they are voting No to 

Ariadne xx

[Pennyfarthing]

I've had a quick look through twice and still can't work out what they are voting No to 

Ariadne xx

This might help Ariadne.

https://www.savvywoman.co.uk/6186/the-waspi-petition-debate-any-hope-for-women-affected-by-state-pension-age-rises/

[ariadne]

Thank you PF.

So the "No" is a response to "whether or not the government had properly considered the request made in the petition for fair transitional arrangements." 


Ariadne xx

[limpy]

Thanks Ariadne

[Pennyfarthing]

I met up with the girl who used to live next door when we were kids. She is exactly 6 months older than me. She gets her pension this coming July along with her free bus pass and £200 winter fuel allowance and any other perks going.

The 6 month difference in our ages is costing me a lot! I won't be able to get my pension until July 2018 and will miss out on over £12,000.

[ariadne]

Really PF?   -  that is infuriating and so unfair.   I had to stop reading about it online as I was becoming upset by the many comments made by men who couldn't grasp why we felt we had been treated unfairly.  In a nutshell,  they felt it was right that we were brought up to the same retirement  age as men and some of the comments were so nasty and abusive. 

But it's that the goalposts have twice been moved just as we were reaching retirement age that is unfair.  We have paid  the required amount of NI contributions but still cannot receive our pensions.  I estimate that I have lost £30,000 with this change and if you multiply that by the number of women affected,  you can see why it is the biggest money saving move the government has made. 

I am to be made redundant in the next few months and I think I will have no alternative but to use the small private pension I have to bridge the gap until I can claim my state pension

Ariadne xx

[Pennyfarthing]

Really PF?   -  that is infuriating and so unfair.   I had to stop reading about it online as I was becoming upset by the many comments made by men who couldn't grasp why we felt we had been treated unfairly.  In a nutshell,  they felt it was right that we were brought up to the same retirement  age as men and some of the comments were so nasty and abusive. 

But it's that the goalposts have twice been moved just as we were reaching retirement age that is unfair.  We have paid  the required amount of NI contributions but still cannot receive our pensions.  I estimate that I have lost £30,000 with this change and if you multiply that by the number of women affected,  you can see why it is the biggest money saving move the government has made. 

I am to be made redundant in the next few months and I think I will have no alternative but to use the small private pension I have to bridge the gap until I can claim my state pension

Ariadne xx

Will you be entitled to redundancy money Ariadne?  Thing is as well, where are women our age supposed to find work to tide us through the next few years.

I have a friend who is only in her mid 50s and she's been looking for work for ages and we all feel (at our knitting group) that her age is against her so what chance do ladies in their 60s have.

I agree with what you say about comments some men are making.  Some of them are saying "well you women wanted equality, now you've got it."  And some are being really spiteful and sexist.

What they are forgetting is that women's dates have been moved twice with hardly any notice.

[Pennyfarthing]

Mhairi Black blasting the Govt about women's state pensions. wow!!

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/02/25/uks-youngest-mp-just-demolished-tories-scathing-attack-yet-video/

[Ju Ju]

Thanks for the link.

[ariadne]

Yes I will get redundancy but not enough to last nearly 5 years until my new retirement age.

I also read online that government were saying we had no need to worry about situations like this as we could claim jobseekers allowance.  How insulting when we have already put in the required number of years of NI contributions,  to be  expected to go cap in hand to the Jobcentre.

I haven't followed the link you posted yet but will have a look when I have more time- thank you for posting it

Ariadne xx

[dahliagirl]

I don't think I will ever manage to make enough contributions for state pension anyway.

I was always below the number of years, then they changed it and it became a possiblility!  Then they changed it again 

Starting a career in your 50s only seems doable if you can be self-employed.

It is a huge mess.

[Pennyfarthing]

I don't think I will ever manage to make enough contributions for state pension anyway.

I was always below the number of years, then they changed it and it became a possiblility!  Then they changed it again 

Starting a career in your 50s only seems doable if you can be self-employed.

It is a huge mess.

You can ring the Dept of W and Pensions and they will confirm how many years NI contributions you have.  Don't forget if you stayed at home bringing up children then those years count.

[blossom60]

you can do a quick calculation of 'youGov'.  It's not precise but it gives you an idea.