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Kathleen

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Re: Broke down to my GP
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2015, 07:25:58 PM »

Hello Warwick.

I've been following your thread and I'm pleased to see that you benefited from your appointment today. Perhaps you can arrange to see someone equally proficient when this lady leaves.

I agree that our hormones are responsible for our problems but anything that helps us during this time is to be welcomed.

Wishing you well and sending hugs, I know how awful this meno anxiety can be.

Take care.

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Greenfields

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Re: Broke down to my GP
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2015, 12:34:49 PM »

Warwick have you checked out Sarah Rayners book?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Making-Friends-Menopause-comforting-support-ebook/dp/B00T9XUNXI

-its really helpful.  She's also written a good book on anxiety too

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Making-Friends-Anxiety-supportive-little/dp/1502345420/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

I found them both helpful.  And she makes the connection around hormones and anxiety at the menopause in her book.

She's got some FB support groups too - altho' I haven't tried them.
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Re: Broke down to my GP
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2015, 10:57:27 PM »

Hi everyone. I can relate to all of the anxiety symptoms too. I know it's probably been mentioned before (but this site has a lot of threads to trawl through and I am relatively new here) but:
It seems so unfair that some women sail through menopause without more than a hot flush while the rest of us are crippled with anxiety. Are those of us with the latter very anxious people to begin with or do you think it is purely menopausal hormones affecting some of us in different ways?
 For myself, although I am a bit of a worrier, I did not suffer anxiety attacks during my lifetime until I had a hysterectomy 22 years ago. This  anxiety was eased by a naturopathic remedy and I have been fine until this year. I am 56 now so it has been a long time between attacks. This time it's much worse. As you all say, it has to be hormones! But are we all worriers to start with? If this were the case, wouldn't i have had these attacks of pure fear when under extreme pressure at times during my life? I did not! It is not related at all to what is going on in my life.
What is the general opinion on this? :-\
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warwick01

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Re: Broke down to my GP
« Reply #48 on: September 08, 2015, 04:07:03 PM »

Hi Lyn

Yes I agree, some people like myself are prone to anxiety. This hormonal anxiety is different it feels out of my control and therefore when people say ride the anxiety :( this is not possible because due to the adrenalin I have no control.......

When previously under pressure and feeling anxious, I still had control 9hope this makes sence)

Wx
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Greenfields

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Re: Broke down to my GP
« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2015, 04:32:13 PM »

Hi everyone. I can relate to all of the anxiety symptoms too. I know it's probably been mentioned before (but this site has a lot of threads to trawl through and I am relatively new here) but:
It seems so unfair that some women sail through menopause without more than a hot flush while the rest of us are crippled with anxiety. Are those of us with the latter very anxious people to begin with or do you think it is purely menopausal hormones affecting some of us in different ways?
 For myself, although I am a bit of a worrier, I did not suffer anxiety attacks during my lifetime until I had a hysterectomy 22 years ago. This  anxiety was eased by a naturopathic remedy and I have been fine until this year. I am 56 now so it has been a long time between attacks. This time it's much worse. As you all say, it has to be hormones! But are we all worriers to start with? If this were the case, wouldn't i have had these attacks of pure fear when under extreme pressure at times during my life? I did not! It is not related at all to what is going on in my life.
What is the general opinion on this? :-\

Its definitely hormonal.  I had panic attacks in my twenties and early thirties.  I got rid of them by training to be a yoga teacher and had a solid meditation practice too.  Didn't experience any panic attacks for a good twenty years - then had an attack of pure terror for the first time this year (bore no relation to panic attacks in my twenties).  Dr said that if you have a history of panic attacks then they can come back at menopause - wish I'd known this before it happened (I cancelled a move to Canada in response to it happening and then had a nervous breakdown ... that's a whole other story).  Since I've been on HRT the anxiety has mostly gone but when I was experiencing it this year - it was definitely hormonal and bore no relation to what I was doing or how I was feeling at the time.
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warwick01

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Re: Broke down to my GP
« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2015, 08:34:23 AM »


Hi Greenfields

Good to hear your getting better, which HRT are you taking???

Any plans to move back to Canada??

Wxx

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Greenfields

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« Reply #51 on: September 09, 2015, 10:31:13 AM »


Hi Greenfields

Good to hear your getting better, which HRT are you taking???

Any plans to move back to Canada??

Wxx

The HRT I'm taking is Evorel 50 patches (which I change twice a week) and 100mg Utrogestan - which I take for 25 days a month.  I'm approaching my 6th cycle of this medication regime and it has really worked for me.  I still get sweating occasionally but it's usually when I'm very stressed - so it's linked to my emotional state rather than my hormonal state per se.  I don't get any bleeding on this regime either which is good.

I would love to move back to Canada but my Dr said lets see how I am the beginning of October - I'd like to make a visit back first.  Moving back will be hard though as starting over again from scratch is going to be challenging.  I could still stay in the UK - and may have to if my health isn't improved enough. 

One of the big concerns I have is whether the last visit I made to Canada in March was one of the triggers for my breakdown.  I know the out of whack menopausal hormones definitely impacted my decision making and I had a breakdown after withdrawing my place on my MSW course due to overwhelming anxiety and a panic attack which I put down to thinking that moving back to Canada would not be the right decision due to the way I was feeling (as I didn't know the menopause could impact one's anxiety levels).

But there were numerous other triggers as well - I've had a shit load of stress the last year due to several abusive landlords and an abusive manager where I worked as well as an extremely stressful job (which I left to move back to Canada) - but how much those factors played into everything I'm not sure.  Living in another country is stressful but I've found since I returned to the UK last year that things are so so difficult and different here since I left in 2002.  More than anything there seems to be such a selfish culture prevalent - something I've especially encountered with retired people - people who have their own homes and are doing okay thank you very much.

I know not everyone is in that position and there are lots of kind folks out there as well (thank God!) but the contrast with Canada has been quite striking - there isn't as much of a safety net in Canada but because of that, I think people reach out more to each other to help and there isn't the level of judgement around poor people that there is in the UK.  There also isn't the class system that's prevalent in the UK and while there are problems with inequality and poverty, the housing crisis isn't anywhere near as bad as the UK and people in Canada who rent aren't viewed as failures in the same way as they are in the UK.  There are also far more rental rules to protect people who rent too and it's a lot easier to rent than in the UK. 

I just have more and more of a sense in the UK of a rich selfish minority who buy up all these properties and then along with the letting agents, screw people like me who have no hope of getting on the housing ladder.

I'm lucky in that I am now in charity run accommodation which is heavily subsidised (unlike housing associations which now have to charge 80% of market rent which is just ridiculous given how unaffordable rents are) and I definitely don't want to go back into the UK private rental sector - that would tip me into another breakdown.  But it ties me to living where I am indefinitely - and the place I have is very very small (though I'm incredibly grateful for it and the kind people who run it).

But if I move back to Canada, I will probably have to do 2 or 3 p/t jobs so I need to have the stamina to do that ... and at the moment I don't and I have repetitive strain injury which makes things doubly difficult in terms of getting work.  But I really miss aspects of the culture there a lot.  That said, when I was there, I missed the UK a lot - but it's changed so much.  If I do stay in the UK, I will have to work 2 jobs to make enough money to try and save for retirement as the care work I have lined up (when I'm able to do it) only pays 18K when you work f/t 40 hours a week - and that's not enough to save money for a pension.

But if I move back to Canada, I will have to pay for my own medications and if I did get ill again, it would be much worse in terms of support as the mental health services are over stretched and the welfare system isn't as good as the UK.  So I don't want to go back and get ill again.  I could reapply for the MSW ... but then I will be using up more of my savings in the hope that I can get a good job - which isn't guaranteed.

I could try and get a good job in the UK providing it's in the area I live in but working in social services is very hard with the horrible austerity cuts (I was supporting people with mental illness in my last job and saw first hand what was going on with cuts - and having since been ill myself, I wouldn't have got better if the churches/voluntary organisations and kind people hadn't stepped in).

At the moment I try not to think too far ahead as it's too much to take in.   

But I think it's called being between a rock and a hard place.
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warwick01

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Re: Broke down to my GP
« Reply #52 on: September 09, 2015, 11:15:03 AM »

Hi Greenfields

Thank you for the below info.

I can relate to some of your issues. I started my dream job 18months ago in TV. Unfortunatly due to these hormonal issues I could not cope, the HRT did not work as well (became sensetised to the gel) so I gave up work. I have struggled mentally since, feeling like a failure and letting people down.

I am planning on getting better and start looking to go back to work January 20016. Our health is more important but I miss work and the company. I lost my friends when I became housbound, they ran out of patience with me :( some have not reach this stage yet. I have been going through this for eight years now. Up until 18 months ago I was ok on HRT but its all gone down hill now. I will be 57 in January.

Have you any hospitals close to you??? worth lookingon NHS jobs as a pretty good pension andif you can get a band 3 support role pays about 19000 with 5 weeks holiday.

Wx
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Greenfields

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Re: Broke down to my GP
« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2015, 03:49:31 PM »

Aw sorry to hear that Warwick - you sound as if you are having as tough a time as I am.

My Dr says I can't start working until November at the earliest.  I plan on doing the care work initially because I've got such a huge gap in my employment record now and I need to prove that I can work and stay well - and I hope I can because my savings are going down and I don't qualify for any benefits until April 2016 (at that time I will have been back in the UK 2 years - if I stay).  And I have virtually no pension :( Not a good position to be in at 52.

I'll look at the Band 3 support post's - I'm within commuting distance of a couple of hospitals.  I think I can manage care work providing I don't have to do nights - I can't do those.  I find the switch from doing a late shift (finishing at 9pm) and then going in on an early shift (starting 9am) hard enough.  The care work I have lined up with the agency has me finishing at 10pm - we'll see how that goes.  But it's a 2 week schedule and I set my own hours.  So I plan to start p/t to begin with.  In November if I can.

Still hope to make a trip to Canada and possibly return but realistically am realising that it may not happen this year.  Health is important but when you have no money coming in and your draining your savings it's hard.

Sorry to hear you lost your friends.  I didn't make many friends while working my last job as I worked irregular 5 week shift pattern - so all I did was work and rest - I had no consistent time to meet anyone and make friends - and I didn't earn enough for a social life either.  I've got more people in my life now but I don't feel like I have any 'real' friends in the UK.  So I just get by the best I can with the support I've got from mental health groups and people who say hello to me in the community.
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Nefersmum

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« Reply #54 on: September 11, 2015, 10:15:43 PM »

I'm coming to this thread later than most but if it's any comfort to you I'm having similar problems.  I've lived on my own for more years than not, suddenly I'm having the collywobbles about being by myself.  Everything is giving me palpitations and I have always been the 'coper' in our family.   I hate that I'm such a whittler.   And tearful!!!   I have never ever been a crier of any significance but I'm blubbing over Cheryl the Emmerdale dog.   

I'm reluctant to visit my doctor for help - I've had disability problems for most of my adult life and they have been completely useless in helping with that so I struggle to imagine that they'd be any good with something like this.  I'm not sure how to put the problem into words anyway.  It's much easier when you are writing things down.  I'm not sure how you describe the wierd, spacey, feeling out of synch sensation that keeps appearing.   
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Blueskye

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« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2015, 04:04:42 PM »

Sorry to hijack this thread but my heart goes out to so many of you.  I only joined this forum last night seeking some basic seeking advice.  I quickly read this thread and see that there are stories that make me want to just weep.  Compared to so many brave women here and their stories if reading them doesn't kick my sorry backside into gear I don't know what will.   I saw a doctor today and he said he was amazed at how the menopause can affect women so differently and some get far worse symptoms than others.   To me it is unfair as people lives can be in a pretty bad state already for varying reasons) and then BANG here comes the menopause to just add to your problems. ??? I am definitely learning so much from reading this forum (still early days and so much reading to do ) and sharing your problems is a big step. I just wish I could do things to help some of those that are clearly suffering so much.    :(
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Blueskye

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« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2015, 09:41:39 PM »

Thanks, Sparkle.  This forum is such an eye opener and is helping immensely.   The doctor I saw today was young (not sure I had seen him before) and he looked at me a bit strange when I didn't know where to start. I think had I had a female doctor the start of the consultation would have been a little easier.  He asked a few pointed questions about my mental health and I started to get emotional.  He mentioned HRT and AD's as a starting point.  I said if I could avoid both I really wanted to.  He looked quizzical and then my brain kicked back in and I knew he was really listening and really wanted to try and help.  The long and short of it we agreed I have a blood test to rule out anything other than the menopause, he gave me a massive print out to read so that I can fully understand what options are available if my feelings are due to the menopause.  As I said on another thread  the medical problems I have are nothing compared to what so many of you are suffering from and sometimes it's good to realise that things may seem bad but in the bigger scheme of things I think I am fully treatable whereas I now understand that so many others on this site   have tried so many different things and yet are still suffering and have been for years.  That just does not seem fair. :-\
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