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[CLKD]

Well so far since 2002 I haven't noticed any hallucinations  …….. sure that was for BBs   

[Limpy]

I can't remember what dose of propranolol I was on, no surprise there then 
The side effects I did have, were, getting very dizzy on standing up, oh, and my fingers and ankles getting very swollen.

[babyjane]

too much made me heart rate too slow and I felt like I wasn't getting oxygen to my brain.

[honeybun]

I was just wiped out, and very cold. I just knew I felt really unwell. I remember being out with hubby and DD. We came home because I felt awful. I spent the rest of the day on the sofa.
I was very aware of my heart beat, or lack of it, it seemed.

I think my issue with medication in general is a one size fits all. I'm not tall and don't weigh an awful lot but I'm given the same dose as a twelve stone six foot man. How on earth does that even hope to work. In my mind it doesn't. As with pets and young children weight is taken into account. As for the rest of us....just get on with it.

Sorry a bit of a mini rant. 


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[Limpy]

I think my issue with medication in general is a one size fits all. I'm not tall and don't weigh an awful lot but I'm given the same dose as a twelve stone six foot man. How on earth does that even hope to work.

That's it exactly!

[honeybun]

Glad you agree  . I like a rant, gets it off the chest 


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[CLKD]

My GP didn't agree with that scenario though, but initially lots of drugs 'knocked' me out or made me really queasy 

[Greenfields]

I think my issue with medication in general is a one size fits all. I'm not tall and don't weigh an awful lot but I'm given the same dose as a twelve stone six foot man. How on earth does that even hope to work.

That's it exactly!

That's why I need to be careful - I currently fit a size 6 clothing and size 8's are loose on me .... I was a size 12 before all this menopausal stuff blew up - so a lot of beta blocker would probably not do me any good!

[honeybun]

Cut it in half and you will be just fine....and a lot calmer.

Let us know how it goes.


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[pepperminty]

Hi Greenfields,

I don't know if this will help.
 I went through 2  years of feeling nauseous and panicking in the morning . I threw up acid and wretched everyday. I wretched cleaning my teeth , I cried every morning and panicked every morning. My sleep was awful due to the worry that I wouldn't make it to work. It was literally like having a hangover every day ( but with no alcohol).
 
The only thing that eventually worked to alleviate the vicious cycle was acceptance. I decided and believe me it wasn't easy , that if I was sick , I was sick ,if I panicked I panicked - what was the worse that could happen at that moment ? I knew it would wear off eventually as the morning went on and I tried to concentrate on anything else I could.
 Being alone as yourself , it is more difficult as you do not have anyone else to take your mind off things or concentrate on. So everything seems huge. At least that is how I have felt.

Just congratulate yourself on the progress you have made and trust that you have survived what has been thrown at you by fate so far and you will come through again a wiser and more capable person.

Pepperminty xx

[CLKD]

I prefer to be alone when in panic mode so I don't have to justify myself ……..

[Greenfields]

Hi Greenfields,

I don't know if this will help.
 I went through 2  years of feeling nauseous and panicking in the morning . I threw up acid and wretched everyday. I wretched cleaning my teeth , I cried every morning and panicked every morning. My sleep was awful due to the worry that I wouldn't make it to work. It was literally like having a hangover every day ( but with no alcohol).
 
The only thing that eventually worked to alleviate the vicious cycle was acceptance. I decided and believe me it wasn't easy , that if I was sick , I was sick ,if I panicked I panicked - what was the worse that could happen at that moment ? I knew it would wear off eventually as the morning went on and I tried to concentrate on anything else I could.
 Being alone as yourself , it is more difficult as you do not have anyone else to take your mind off things or concentrate on. So everything seems huge. At least that is how I have felt.

Just congratulate yourself on the progress you have made and trust that you have survived what has been thrown at you by fate so far and you will come through again a wiser and more capable person.

Pepperminty xx

Thank you Pepperminty - those are very wise words.  And so true - it's what I am trying to do at the moment.  Today I woke up feeling icky again and just got moving once I was up (I've been waking up at around 4am recently which hasn't helped - so I doze until the alarm goes off).  Once I keep busy, have eaten breakfast and just get on with jobs I need to do, then at some point in the mid morning, I start to feel a bit better.  I'm really looking forward to getting my housing and work stabilised - I think once I can get those things sorted out a bit, I will feel a bit better.  So going back to Canada and sorting that out is going to be a priority once I'm 100% certain my nervous system will hold. 

[Debe]

Beta Blockers, Propranolol, are great for the physical effects of anxiety. I take then occasionally, the only ill effects I get, is they do slow you down a bit, can make your eyes dry. They will help you to relax. They also use them for PTSD to help to lessen the memory of traumatic events. I take the 40mg. I don't take them at night because I tend to get very dark dreams, wouldn't want to make them any worse.

Years ago I was on the 80mg slow release, but I prefer the 40mg. When I asked the Dr about overdose, he said you would have to take about 80-100 of them! Yet my aunty, cuts them in quarter because she believes they make her high!

We are all different.

If only they would hurry up and legalise cannabis! I would be in a café right now.

[Greenfields]

So I took one this morning.  Not right away - which I should have done as I woke up with racing heart and jittery feeling.

I took one about 30 minutes later when I was still feeling anxious but heart wasn't racing.

To be absolutely honest, I didn't notice a huge difference ... maybe a little bit of calm?  But it didn't remove the anxiety completely as I was expecting it to. I was able to sit and meditate - but I was going to do that anyway.

So I don't know how useful it is really ... I might take one again if I wake up with a racing heart - perhaps if I took it straight away, I would notice the difference more?

The only thing I'm noticing at the moment (about an hour and 20 minutes after I've taken it) is that part of my tongue feels a bit numb/or as if its had something hot on it.  But that might be the effect of my breakfast porridge ... so I can't attribute it to the beta blocker necessarily. And I haven't had any other side effects that I've noticed yet.

[Limpy]

perhaps if I took it straight away, I would notice the difference more?

I think that's definitely the case for the racing heart situation.
With the anxiety, not sure, but it probably takes a little while to start getting the benefits there.