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CLKD

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Paris attacks
« on: January 08, 2015, 01:16:20 PM »

Does anyone have the 'right to insult' as has been reported from Paris a few moments ago by the late Editor   ?  surely that is bullying …… anyone who is 'taking the ???' out of other cultures I think are 'sick', this is beyond Freedom of Speech.  To me this seems like playground bullying against people who appear different  :-\ …….. Freedom of Speech should not be taken for granted, people went to War to enable us to say what we feel but with this freedom, each of us should take responsibility and care in who we aim our words at!

Won't do the Tourist industry any good either …….
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Re: Paris attacks
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2015, 01:32:31 PM »

True, but still no excuse to go killing folk.  Just goes to show that we need to be more aware of possible attacks. I know they've upped the UK risk factor to  severe, but we never really know where, when & how these attacks will happen.
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CLKD

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Re: Paris attacks
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2015, 02:51:24 PM »

But why should one group of journalists be allowed to negate what others' believe  :-\ ……. in the 'sake' of satire which is after all, sarcasm which is …………

No one likes to be insulted and no one has the 'right' to insult others what ever form it is supposedly in.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2015, 02:56:04 PM »

And why should one fanatical group slaughter others in the name of religion. If most people are offended by something they can protest in a peaceful way.

These people are murdering thousands world wide as they see us as being worth nothing.

They,as Islamists want to take over huge parts of the world and no one is allowed to disagree with what they see as right.


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CLKD

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Re: Paris attacks
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2015, 03:05:58 PM »

Joan was burned at the stake  :-\

Someone was burned in Saffron Walden for their belief in 1555

From when time began:

"In the cool of the evening they used to gather beneath the stars, in the meadow, circled near an old oak tree.  At the times appointed by the seasons of the earth and the phases of the moon.

"In the centre often stood a woman, equal to the others and respected for her worth.  One of the many we call the witches, the healers and the teachers of the wisdom of the earth.

"People grew in the knowledge she gave them, herbs to heal their bodies spells to make their spirits whole.  Hear them chanting, healing incantations-calling for the wise ones celebrating in dance and song.

ISIS-ASTARTE-DIANA-HECATI-DEMETER-KALI-INANNA

"There were those who came to power through domination, bonded in their worship of a dead man on the cross.  They sought control over all people, demanding allegiance to the church of Rome.

"The pope commenced the inquisition – a war against women whose powers were feared.  In this holocaust, this century of evil, nine million European women died.

"The tale is told of those who by the hundreds, holding hands together chose their deaths in the sea. Chanting the praises of the mother goddess, a refusal of betrayal, women were dying to be free.

ISIS-ASTARTE-DIANA-HECATI-DEMETER-KALI-INANNA

"Now the Earth is a witch, we still burn her, stripping her down with mining and the poison of our wars.  Still to us, the Earth is still a healer; a teacher; a Mother and weaver of a web that keeps us all alive.

"She gives us the wisdom to see through the chaos, she gives us the courage, it is our will to survive.

ISIS-ASTARTE-DIANA-HECATI-DEMETER-KALI-INNANNA."


Roy Bailey of Nottingham, England recorded this song having learned it from the writer Charlie Murphy of California. Martha McClelland of Derry heard Roy's version and passed it on to my sister Terry Moore in Co. Kildare. She rightly thought the song would appeal to me and I began singing it in the early 90s. I have recorded it on three separate occasions finally getting it done to my own satisfaction on “Burning Times” in 2005. Like many songs and poems it does not look great on the page but comes to life when the air is blown into it. Then the beauty of the words, tho' awful betimes, sail out and create imagery that never fails to stir me as the song gets sung. We are destroying that which sustains us, as sure as the sun has gone down this night. It feels to me like we are past the point of no return so let us sing and dance as if there were no tomorrow.

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Re: Paris attacks
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2015, 03:36:04 PM »

What makes me despair is that these Islamic terrorists contribute nothing to their people or culture, what do they want except to kill innocent people. I bet they all own smart phones and the trappings of the western society that they all seem to despise.

High on drugs and brain washing or else how could they do what they do. No one in the West is attacking them why can't they leave us in peace.

Sort out their own problems start contributing to society and their people who need help and stability and stop the fighting between themselves that has gone on for centuries.
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honeybun

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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2015, 03:54:14 PM »

Let them set up a state and run it as they wish. Let whoever wants to go and live there. Leave us alone for heavens sake.

It's not a culture I would want to be part of as women are seen as property and have no rights at all but if that's what the people of that religion want then let them get on with it.

I don't think I will be alone in choosing what I say very carefully as I don't want to offend.


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Re: Paris attacks
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2015, 09:01:50 PM »

Walked across Trafalgar Square on my way home this evening and there is a very moving tribute to the slaughtered journalists. There is a large circle on the ground formed from hundreds of pens and pencils and the centre is filled with flowers and messages. It is very simple but very moving.
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Dulciana

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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2015, 09:23:52 PM »

Jesus gave his disciples an eleventh commandment - "Love one another as I have loved you."   Oh, what a challenge.
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honeybun

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Re: Paris attacks
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2015, 10:04:59 PM »

Don't think the Islamists quite think that way.... :-\


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Re: Paris attacks
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2015, 11:02:33 PM »

'We' went on the Crusades …….. to make people turn to Christianity …….. we had a strict Catholic Faith  followed by ……. upheaval  :-\ ……….. and even within those Faiths they can't agree so we get Methodists, Weslians, Baptists, Calvanists  ::) …….. man wants control over other men and women are caught between ……..

Is there any culture that doesn't have a 'faith' to adhere to ……… I'm a tree hugger and I worship the Sun which can give Life or take it away and I can see it!
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Re: Paris attacks
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2015, 03:13:14 PM »

Walked across Trafalgar Square on my way home this evening and there is a very moving tribute to the slaughtered journalists. There is a large circle on the ground formed from hundreds of pens and pencils and the centre is filled with flowers and messages. It is very simple but very moving.

I saw that yesterday too. I went to the National Gallery to look at something beautiful as was becoming too upset by the news. OH comes from a muslim family, although he is entirely secular (his family aren't). We are both outraged by yet another vicious attack by these evil people in the name of their warped ideology. Another fundamentalist idiot has just taken people hostage in a kosher supermarket in another part of Paris, while the original 2 terrorists are holed up under siege, holding some poor print shop owner or worker hostage.

I can't work out Twitter (wish I could) but I did see this from Uderzo, the Asterix cartoonist, and I love it
https://twitter.com/asterixofficiel/status/553149107888738304/photo/1

hope the link works.
If anyone knows if here in London we are having a silent march to coincide with the one in Paris on Sunday, please post? Apparently the last one was organised via Facebook and I'm not on FB.
Charlie Hebdo's late editor's GF was interviewed and said she isn't pleased by the hashtag Je Suis Charlie and the protests, because the person dearest to her in life was gone.
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Limpy

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Re: Paris attacks
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2015, 03:44:12 PM »


No one likes to be insulted and no one has the 'right' to insult others what ever form it is supposedly in.


Oh - It was OK to go and murder the journalists was it?
After all, their religion had been laughed at, so that makes it all acceptable..........

If they don't like the culture they should live in one they find acceptable rather than kill people who displease them.
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honeybun

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Re: Paris attacks
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2015, 03:47:36 PM »

Well said Limpy and all done without sweary words.

It's about time we stood up to these animals and sent them to live somewhere they find acceptable to them.


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Re: Paris attacks
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2015, 03:57:13 PM »

That won't happen.  The World is too mobile physically, monetarily and the use of FaceBook etc. makes it almost impossible to track down anyone planning attacks because word spreads so fast  :'(

It is what it is.  How do you feel if insulted? Really, deeply, inside .......

Many people are writing that freedom of speech comes with responsibility.  No one has the 'right' to offend others, by killing someone this has offended people ......... it doesn't make it 'right' but it is stated somewhere: 'An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth' .........

Sadly all sects have those who will be fundamentalists and those who will die to become martyrs.  Sadly those with such ideas are moving across the World plundering .......... in the name of  :-\ .......... and it amazes me how young some are ........
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