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[karenja]

 >:(Hi

Been wearing Estradot patch since Thurs afternoon much better day yesterday, didn't take Utrogeston until last night, cant seem to get on with it at all woke feeling horrible very groggy again just want to stay in bed, my arms feel heavy just feel yuck, don't think I can stick this stuff even long enough to see if it improves what else can I ask the doctor for (progesterone) that I can take along with the Estradot any help please, even if its a synthetic progesterone again x

[karenja]

or will it help by taken the Utrogestan internally I know some of you ladies find this ok???  loving the xmas faces  x

[Dana]

Have you tried any of the progestins? I think I got caught up in the whole "must only use bioidentical" mindset, but I finally came to the conclusion that Utro just doesn't work for me (either orally or vaginally).

With a lot of trepidation I tried medroxyprogesterone, and found that I actually get on very well with it. I would like to take a progestin in patch form (which I can't with medroxy) so my next experiment is to see how I get on with norethisterone.

We are all different and the bottom line is that we have to use what works for us.

[karenja]

Thanks Dana I've tried the progesterone in elleste duet, everol conti (same maybe?) and femseven before Utrogestan, stayed on everol conti almost three months less three days and this was ok except towards the end x

[Dancinggirl]

I personally think it is unrealistic to expect to feel good all the time whether you use HRT or not. The best we can hope for is that meno symptoms will be mostly under control and any side effects we get from HRT will be minimal.  Even when we are young and having regular periods, the time leading up to the period can be filled with low mood, headaches and then period pain.  We all react differently to the various progesterones in HRt preparations and it is about finding the one with the least side effects. 
karenj - if you felt ok most of the time on Medroxyprogesterone or Norethesterone then you can certainly have these alongside the your oestrogen patches.
Having read through your various posts, i think your real problem is sticking with a preparation until it has a chance to settle down.  Your anxiety is really playing havoc with how you approach your HRT treatment.
HAve you discussed the option of having a SSRI alongside the HRT to help reduce you anxiety.  If HRT doesn't help me, my consultant gynae has recommended I try Citalopram which he has found works extremely well for many women (including his wife who has had breast cancer).  If you do try an SSRI then it is about persevering with the initial side effects as the first couple of weeks can be difficult.
I do hope you find a solution.  DG x

[karenja]

Hi DG

thanks for your reply, I did try Citalopram but again couldn't get on with it, I have got a different ad and valium incase I should need them alongside the hrt, im going to give Estradot chance now and try Utrogeston on day 15 vaginally to see if that's better x

[karenja]

Hi I know and I appreciate all the advice going to see how it goes with just hrt for now I have ad's and Valium incase I need them x

[Dana]

Please don't use the valium. It is highly addictive and you can get yourself into trouble with it in quite a short period of time if you're not very careful. It's just not worth it IMO.