THANK-YOU this forum does help me not to feel alone in all of this. I have been using Vagifem in the morning on advice from pharmacist because of the 'double expresso' effect (yes even on the half dose) and it seems to have worn off by evening. I am due to see GP next week, so I'll ask about ring. Hope it's available at that dosage here in Oz. I know that many women use Vagifem or Ovestin (tried that too, same side effect) successfully but for those of us unlucky to be so sensitive to certain ingredients, life with VA is horrible. It got to the point when I first posted that I was crying with the constant pain/urinary frequency. The toilet saw me more times than my family did. I will take all that has been said and let you know what happens. Fingers crossed that they'll have ring at that dosage and no side effects x