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[moonbeam121167]

Hi all again, just an update, been to the new GP and it didnt go well    he said the pills will not affect my stomach, wasnt interested in the emails from Dr Currie or what I want, he also said western women are prone to being stressed and HRT wont help, will not refer me to a meno clinic as my symptoms are under control, I asked for the gel and he gave me Evorel 50 patch  , just want to cry , dont know what to do, just want to curl up and cry 

[Rowan]

Patches are just as good as gel as far as getting estrodiol into your body so don't cry, some ladies like gel some patches, its an ascetic thing really, you are over thinking this too much. 

If the 50 patch is too much cut it in half .

His remark about "western women are prone to being stressed and HRT won't help" is crass (Is he non western, I have found that some are not keen to prescribe HRT) please put it out of your head, you have your patches at least.

Quite honestly I don't think you would get much more help from a menopause clinic ( personally I think they are over rated)  a good GP can help just as much or even more.

Please try to get on with your life and try to forget about hormones as you as you say your symptoms are under control. the alternative is not taking hormones at all and suprizingly as it may seem millions of women do get through menopause without adding hormones.

I really wish you well moonbeam and hopefully the patches will be the answer.

[moonbeam121167]

THanks you so much, I was again made to feel like a hypochondriac and I am not just want to be taken seriously thats all, he didnt even tell me how to start these patches, I take the pill after my tea at around 6ish , so is it best to not take it tonight and then start afresh tomorrow night x

[Rowan]

Moonbeam read the directions that came with patches, they will tell you how to use the Patches.

Don't look at the "contradictictions" unless they apply to you personally.

[ellie66]

Moonbeam- I am a gobby so and so.  If that was me I would me writing a letter of complaint to the Practice about him not listening to me and ignoring the Meno Specialists advice ie Dr Currie. The comment on western women is bordering on racist I would definitely complain about that.

It is just not acceptable. One complaint letter usually means they are more careful in future.

I would see a different GP next time too.

[Rowan]

I agree, but a letter of complaint can sometimes work against you, if it were me and it was possible to see another doctor in the practice, I would 

mention to him/her that I was upset by such and such's remark and leave at that.

Also some Drs re a bit funny about quoting other doctors advice. 

[ellie66]

As a former Practice Manager I would want to know if comments like that where being made. This could be a safety issue too. Plus Dr Currie is not some random doctor she is a Meno Expert.

Without a complaint other patients may be left at risk.

Complaints like this do not work against the patient. It really does need a complaint. Plus see another GP next time.

[Rowan]

I never said that Dr Currie was some random doctor.

I have quoted at some times what had been adviced on MM only to be told that, "Let me see what the problem is"  and I took to mean, I am treating you!

I was not offended at all by this.

Most doctors like to make their own diagnosis and treatment and ask for a second opinion if needed, its a question of being tactful with your Doctor, some doctors don't mind others do.

moonbeam must make up her own mind how she handles the remarks, and take the advice she thinks she can handle and how she complains.

[honeybun]

I agree with SL. Doctors generally don't like when you quote the internet or others doctors. If they have an interest in meno then they may well have heard of Dr Currie if not then 

I would just see another GP and not go back to the offensive one.

After all Moonbeam has got an alternative to pills and if the pills were the cause of the headaches and sick feelings then she has got what she wanted.

There has been a lot of over thinking and worrying about this. Now it's a case of sticking a patch on and hopefully feeling better.

If you have not taken a pill today then you can put the patch on now and stop stressing please.

Honeyb
x

[Rowan]

Adding to HBs post, my Surgery consists of four doctors of whom one is the senior doctor plus reception staff and two nurses, there is not a Practice Manager.

Tact and diplomacy I think is the best way to handle some things.

[honeybun]

I agree SL.
I am lucky in my practice but I know exactly how to handle various doctors. Some are open to having a discussion and others are not so if it's not a quick appointment that I need I pick who I want depending on what is wrong with me.
It would really have to be a huge issue before I would complain as I am sure it would affect the relationship I have with the GPs that I see.

We only have the one surgery in my area so it's that or nothing.


Honeyb
x

[ellie66]

The problem that would worry me as a Practice Manager is he may be a salaried GP or a long term locum and not a partner in the Practice in which case Practice would definitely need to know about this. Dismissing what another doctor says without even having the courtesy to consider it or even look at the email is dangerous IMO

Disclaimer I am gobby and confident, too may years in the NHS. I would not tolerate that kind of nonsense.

It just horrifies what goes on, a lot of which is potentially dangerous.

[moonbeam121167]

This Doctors he is a old GP who has been there since since year dot, it does leave me pondering on whether it is just me, I will try this patch tonight and you never know it may work but it scares me to go back if it doesnt, my faith in GP is on an all time low , just want to feel good for my husband and kids and grandson, as they have taken a battering this last year and they deserve better xx

[ellie66]

Only you can decide what to do Moonbeam. Some of stories I read on hear about GP's are scary.

[moonbeam121167]

I will try the patch starting tonight but I know for sure I will not go to him again, thanks for help and kind remarks