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[CLKD]

By a certain age (5 years old) pets should have built up an immunity.  More pets than we are told by Vets. have bad reactions to their initial shots and subsequent boosters [What Vets Don't Tell You About Vaccinations]    ......... it is better to check whether a pet has an immunity before dosing them with chemicals they probably don't need.  In the UK pets have to have up-to-date vaccination cards in order to be boarded or work as assistance dogs.  In the UK it is advised that a pet has an annual check up when the booster will be given.  Of course this is a regular income for the vet. profession ......... and the drug is unlikely to run out at exactly 12 month intervals. 

I have nursed pets through terminal illnesses .......... tiring, all consuming - 4 pts within 22 months - the same Vet walked up our path 9 days apart    ........

How is Daisy this morning?

[Taz2]

I wondered if you had nursed any of your pets through a terminal illness which you could have prevented by a simple annual vaccination CLKD?

Taz x

[honeybun]

I know that some pets probably don't need an annual booster ...but....and its a huge but.
Vets say that to be absolutely sure that your pet is protected then blood tests really need to be done as every animal is different. Immunity against the diseases must be tested for. Blood tests cost as much as the booster. The one vaccine that only lasts a year is kennel cough and kennels won't take any animal without it being done and every other vaccine too.
You say your conscience bothers you with regard to your pets CLKD.
Mine would bother me if I did not do the right things with regards to my precious dogs health.
I will carry on having the yearly injections done and then my conscious is clear.
My sister had a dog that came to her with distemper. It was a terrible death.


Honeyb
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[CLKD]

Kennel cough is airborne which is why boarding establishments won't take dogs these days without a certificate.  Never needed to up until the early 2000, so why is this suddenly, apparently, more prevalent 

I don't have any consciounce (sp) about not vaccinating.  The moment my dog was diagnosed with lymphoma the same week as her booster was due, the Vet. told me that the injection wasn't required.  In fact, it would have compromised any treatment recommended.  As did Metacam, which she had been given for 2 years, it wasn't suitable with chemotherapy.  She required Rimadyl instead.  Such a long list of meds to remember 

How's the itchyness?

[Taz2]

Is Lymphoma something that has a vaccine? I didn't realise that. We all do what we think best but it seems wrong to me to have a pet and know that there is something that can prevent disease but decide not to have it done and then watch the animal die from it.

I think that in animal medicine as in human medicine things move on which is why over thirteen years ago things were not as clear re kennel cough? They know far more about this illness now or so it would appear. I thought you only had to have it done annually but I see it doesn't last that long.

Taz x

[CLKD]

Lymphoma may well have been caused by continued annual vaccinations by putting chemicals into the body, either human or animal.  There is not enough research to find a link.  Humans don't have annual vaccinations nor do we get boosters for measles etc. unless visiting certain countries for work or holidays   ............   jabs don't run out exactly 12 months after being given ...... ..... if a 'bug' is prevalent in an area then I would consider having the pet vaccinated against that particular issue, otherwise I would have blood tests taken to make sure that immunity was up-held.

Distemper was rife until the late 1960s and there was a case treated by our Vets. locally about 10 years ago.  Like Parvo. it can be a killer so I would have initial jabs done but not necessarily all at once.  I don't believe in over-load of chemicals either by injection or flea treatments.  Flea treatments don't stop the fleas jumping on and biting, so if the pet is allergic to the flea saliva it will still be affected.

Must do write that snail mail 

[Rose]

Hi everyone! Today is the day for the big D Flea! I use Frontline every 3 months on the dogs but didn't think about cat  . Anyway let's hope this saga will be over soon. You know Taz that that cat chose you to be there for her and you were, so that is wonderful and it will be waiting for you at the Bridge. Most pet owners love their pets and they are part of the family, so when they die, it's heartbreaking but I wouldn't give up the amount of love that I have given and been shown by them. I had a dog way back in the 70's who got distemper and had to be put down. There is feline aids going about here too. Anyway, thanks again for contributing and I will let you know if poor Daisy stops itching so then we can all get back to our own itchy bits!
Rose x
  wish me luck with the cat!

[Taz2]

Thanks Rose. The cat did choose us for the last year of his life that's true. We did our best for him - horrible disease though. In the end just as he seemed to be rallying a bit he went outside for his usual sit on next door's lawn and had a massive lung haemorrhage. Thinking about the Bridge I think I will be bowled over, literally, if they all come running!! 

Good luck with the Frontline on the cat. I have just Advocate'd mine. At the moment there are three others dotted around the house - none of them actually live here - they just like to call in from time to time.

Taz x

[Rose]

Oh Taz of course you will be bowled over at the bridge as will I and a few others on this site. There is an old saying that you don't choose cats, they choose you! You must be a lovely person for them to feel so welcomed that they can just 'drop by'. Yesterday my DD and friend, took puss wuss to vet and she typically got out of cat box and hid. A little while later, back they come with Frontline stuff to put behind dog's head. Cost a fortune! I went mad and rang them saying this wasn't what we'd agreed on as the pump would have done all 3 for less. They had stuffed up and apologized agreeing to sell me pump at cost price which was okay but if they are that incompetent (I'd rang them before DD had gone down) then I'm not sure I trust their judgement. Daisy still itching after treatment but hoping she'll be better soon  and doing more of what this little dog is doing!
Rose x

[bev567901]

Touch wood we don't get fleas as our dogs are not adventurous I guess but I take the worming very seriously. Sometimes we use advocet other times other makes, no one wormer kills everything so its good to alternate. I do like milbemax though. Never get a poorly dog after worming with any of the makes. I do vaccinate every year but you do get a 3 month window & sometimes if a dog is in season or under the weather you have that bit of time after the 12 mths is up. We have a stream at the bottom of the garden so I am always worried about what rats could bring up to the deck by the house. Plus we have foxes & badgers in neighbouring gardens.
I once took in a mum & 9 day old pups as a mission of mercy, I wormed them all when the time was right. They where crawling not even dead & for those of you who know what mummy dogs do when they have pups its a wonder I ever ate spaghetti again. Luckily it was all pre meno when my gag reflex was intact. This is why I can't understand why I feel so sickly all the time as I am not someone to baulk from tasks like that. Sadly I have started with a coldly  sore throat today & the worst part is feeling sicky & gaggy. Arggggggg.  ps  My son would dearly like a cat, I think the flea chat has made me think twice. He is desperate though     

[Rose]

Oh bev, sorry to hear you are unwell. hope you are better soon. Please don't be put off by my cat. She is an adventuress and as I said, I forgot about puss when I used frontline on dogs. It's not her fault. I had a prue bred fox terrier and she had six puppies (all prue bred) but didn't want to nurse them. I hand reared them so i know what that's like! The 2 am shift was a joy  as they all looked the same. I had two boxes, one for fed and other, unfed but the little buggers soon started jumping out and going into the 'unfed' box for seconds! I loved that dog even though she wasn't maternal. She was really into female dog rights! i had her sterilized as it wasn't fair on her even though I got 400 pounds for each puppy, she wasn't a money machine to me. I had to leave her with my mum when we emigrated to OZ as she would have hated quarantine. Every time I went back, she knew me and would snuggle up to me. She died last year (cancer) and I cried my heart out with the thought that I should have been there for that. I couldn't as it was all so quick.
Nice to chat to fellow animal lovers 

[bev567901]

I can't decide if a kitten is too much & will it like the dogs etc. My son is desperate though.   Well done on hand rearing, I have never been able to do it with a successful outcome. Only got to 3 days max & only with the little runts not a whole litter. You have to try your best though. My Beeny is due in the coming week she has only had one other litter & she gave up at 3 weeks which wasn't too bad but I used to stay up until midnight then get up  3-5am to entertain them & feed them for 7 weeks solid. All her pups are reserved & I have more owners than she can possibly have puppies   You have one of our famous celebs in Oz right now about to start a programme & he has one of my stud's pups. I adore my dogs, even very old smelly Timmy. I don't know what I will do when he goes he's older than the youngest children. It's so sad about your fox terrier girl, they are lovely dogs. Sometimes when it is sudden like that it is worse. I get so emotional about things. We had Timmy 're-built' a couple of years ago cost us a fortune but I have told him he has to last another 10 years but knowing him he will last another 20 just to spite us with his drippy willy 

[Rose]

A kitten will be great as long as you separate it from dogs and acclimatize them to each other's scent. I never had any problem with either George and Angel with my dogs. Daisy wanted to play and Bob (Border Collie) ignored them except when they played with his tail!  I am sure Beeny and Timmy will get used to kitten and the puppies will love the little thing. Go on, give me a clue to famous celeb (mind you, there are so many here now from the UK) and I promise not to tell a soul