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[CLKD]

The 'effects' of ECT don't last for long.  It is barbaric however the treatment is administered.  Have never worked out how it can improve depression.  We were told that the treatment would make Dad forget problems that were making him depressed but it can't work for organic depression which is chemical based.

I think when I began medication I wanted to feel better and I wanted to feel better yesterday 

[mags]

Hi Bev,  did you get my pm earlier- I never know whether they have been sent properly xx

[littleminnie]

Feeling any better Mags?

[mags]

Hi littleminnie,  thanks for asking,  I am still plodding on but nowhere near feeling normal      I did manage a drive out with my hubby yest and  had a very slight lift in mood, but felt very tired when I got home, I had a little snooze but woke in a blind panic, just as I do in the mornings, I find that feeling really scarey.  I have diazepams  but they don't always seem to work.  I have a Dr's appt tomorrow so will see what he comes up with.   Hoping you are well, Love Magsxxx

[Kathleen]

Hello mags and glad to hear that you managed a run out yesterday.

You mention that in the mornings you wake in a blind panic, well so do I. It is as if the adrenalin rush is actually waking me up, I've also had the same sensation after a nap and like you I find it pretty scary. It's as if our hormones are conspiring to ruin the little relaxation that we get!
Oddly though, last night I woke up briefly at 2am and felt really calm and a peace only to fall asleep and wake up again at 7am with an adrenalin surge.  My point is maybe these little oasis of calm do exist and hopefully will become more dominant in time, we live in hope eh!

Take care and wishing you well, let us know how it goes at the doctor's tomorrow.

K. 

[CLKD]

LOW BLOOD SUGAR - you Girls need to alter your diet so that you eat more regularly, slow release foods: porridge  , bananas, dried fruits and nuts; less chocolate and alcohol ; drink more fluids in general; make sure that you have a biscuit before you go to sleep and have some to hand - if you need a bathroom visit in the early hours it is ESSENTIAL to eat a biscuit or a handful of nuts before you go back to sleep to replace the energy you have used waking, walking across the landing, back to bed ........ eating every 3 hours can help too (NAPS advice).  Once blood sugar levels drop it can be hours before they begin to even out again 

[mags]

 Hi Kathleen,  you sound very much like me, it really is horrible and I just long for the day when I  can wake up feeling normal      Mine started in peri but was cyclic,  now though it seems to be constant,        I tend to feel ok when I go to bed and think- why can't I feel like this when I wake up        These blooming hormones have a lot to answer for      Maybe the eating thing would help, thanks CLKD,   and Kathleen take carexx

[littleminnie]

Eating does help.  My best part of the day used to be the evening. But in the morning I was back to feeling awful. I used to make myself eat a biscuit or nibble a few nuts, even though I didn't feel like them.

[Kathleen]

Hello mags what you say about feeling better at bedtime is true for me too. By the end of the day I feel more settled emotionally but the horrible feelings return in the morning and I think oh great, another day of this to contend with. It's exhausting.
I will try the advice on eating plus I will try to drink more water to counter any dehydration.
Let us know how things go at the doctors today.
Take care.
K. 

[mags]

Hi Kathleen, it's really strange isn't it how we can feel so much more relaxed at bedtime, then wham back to feeling horrible the next morning.  Do you feel really low all the time as well and panicky during the day?    I do and it really is exhausting
I had my Dr'S apt at 8.30 this morning, and he wants me to stick with the increased dose for now and go back in three weeks' time, he said that he thinks my negativity is holding me back, which is probably true, but  it is so hard when you feel so dreadful all the time and can't see any end to it.  He thinks that the CBT will help a lot, but again I find it hard to do all the things to help when feeling bad, especially when the anxiety is bad, no amount of self talk seems to make it go away.  He said that we can increase the dose again if necessary and if that fails then try another AD     I shall keep plodding on!  Love Magsxx

[Kathleen]

Hello mags.
Feeling low and panicky during the day, yep that's me. You can add a bit tearful into the mix as well. Also I make myself panic by worrying that  this will never end and I'll be stuck like this forever. I'm told that sort of thinking is called 'catastrophising' (sp?). Well call it what you like, it's bloomin' miserable.
I take an AD at the moment, Venlafaxine but I've no idea what difference it makes to be honest. I'm not on HRT atm and I'm convinced hormones are playing a large in all this.
Your doctor's advise about your medication seems reasonable and CBT has a good reputation so I'm sure you are on the right track, it's just hard that's all.
I reckon plodding on is the most we can expect of ourselves at this time in our lives.

Take care and wishing you well, as you  can tell from this site, you are not alone.

K.
 

[mags]

Hi Kathleen, you and I seem to have identical symptoms, mine is almost certainly hormonal as  I think I said before , the HRT I tried  didn't help at all with the symptoms but I have felt worse since stopping it.  I too catastrophise ,   and have always been a pessimist, my hubby is just the opposite, he has the 'don't worry about it until it happens'  attitude,  and never worries about things. I just wish I could be like that
I can't look forward to Christmas and don't really want to be around people,  that is making things very difficult at the moment.   I know I am not alone  and don't know where I would be without this wonderful forum,
Here's hoping that we get through this horrible time in our lives, sending you a  big hugs  Love Magsxxx

[CLKD]

Eat every 3 hours    what have you to lose ............ go on, give it a whirl ......... even in the night.  I eventually got into the habit of grazing and began to feel human again, it took 6 months in all - to eat properly, feel better, forget, feel worse, eat properly .......

[mags]

Yes CLKD, I am going to give it a try 

[ronthecat]

I'm new to this but reading your post has helped me to not feel alone. I don't even know which bit of the menopause I'm at as I had a coil fitted 5yrs ago.  Having anxiety attacks, got the most embarrassing flushes day and night, vaginal infections and dryness, pounding heart and 'vertigo' type moments which are scary when driving.  Went to the Dr yesterday who said I was a classic case for HRT.  I've read the blurb but I'm really struggling with what to do. I don't want to start HRT and feel better then stop and feel rubbish again.  Had CBT and anti depressants for reactive depression a few years ago and trying to put CBT into practice but with all the Christmas stuff going on its really hard. Husband is a bit bewildered and is treating me like I've got an illness which quite frankly isn't really helping.  In a bit of a pickle really.