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[Maggies]

Hey Ladies

I know too the anxiety feeling......I call in edge and try oh try to tuck it in my pocket. I leave myself voicemail messages on my mobile to help and play back knowing the Edge wont last!

Today was a dreadful day, started first thing didn't want to get up etc....my daughter wanted to go into Norwich shopping!!!! what ? I did get there in the Xmas crowds and drove to the multi storey etc........ Yay said I and changed back to the hRT I had two weeks ago in stead of the new one....Femostron.......so lets hope tomorrow brings us all hugs and a better day xxxx

[mags]

Hi Maggies,   you did very well to get   to the shops and deal with all the crowds yest    I think the idea of leaving yourself messages on your phone is a good idea too      Was it the Femoston that was making you worse?     I was on the conti version of that for five months earlier this year and it did nothing for  the anxiety and depression and gave me very heavy bleeding     I think I may be having withdrawals from it as my symptoms have worsened since coming off it.
Hoping you  have a good day and lots of hugs, Magsxx

[Maggies]

Hi Mags

Thanks for your reply hun. The messages do help. Today I was asked to go to the city again...said no, have instead my 16 year old and his girlfriend over......Woke with tears today and yes the Femostron  has made me worse, I always find Xmas hard too as I have so many angels in heaven....silly but how it is.

My husband told me I it is like living with three people! one gentle and kind, one moody and sad and the other veminous!!! thanks mate.....been married for 17 years and he says he doesn't understand the whole Menopause thing! how on earth can I help him to understand I need support love hugs and laughter......our marriage this year has been in tatters.......trying hard on my part to hold on but why??? will it work??? who knows...any advice welcomed and thank goodness I have the love of greta friends......

[mags]

Hi Maggies,  sorry you are feeling  tearful,  that's me too,   I always struggle at this time of year as  my mum and sister died within a year of each other just before Christmas and my dad who always loved coming to our house  on Christmas day died a few years after  them,  so you are not silly at all in finding it hard .
It is hard for husbands to understand how we feel, they are so different to us in how they deal with  things,  my husband said he feels that he has lost me, but does try to be supportive.  Have you told him exactly how you are feeling ,  that.s what I did and it helped I think, I have also explained to my family that I can't always cope with things because of the menopause and it has taken a bit of pressure off.   You could always get your husband to read up about meno so that he is more informed about it all.   Hope that helps and a  :bighug:xx

[bev567901]

Hi Mags How are you doing?  sorry been busy with matings last few days. Feeling stressed but trying not to. xxxx

[mags]

Hi Bev, don't worry, I know how busy you are.   Sorry you are feeling stressed, is it  copeable?    I am not great really, yest managed to sort out Christmas presents and wrapped some, but didn't get dressed, so at least did something.    Have had a lot of dark days though and still have no motivation to do normal things,   My therapist's secretary just rang to cancel tomorrow's appt as she is ill, so won't see her now until 7th Jan,   but I have  Dr's appt this Thurs .
I just want to get  ' me ' back again and the waiting  is proving very hard.  Do you think your sertraline is working for you?  you do seem to be improving a lot from what you said    
I spoke to my cousin last night who has spells of agitated  depression, mostly due to her upbringing,  she was adopted but only found out when she was in her twenties, then was rejected by her birth mother when she recently tried to get in touch with her,  anyway she has recently had a bout of bad depression and was cured with ECT treatment, she said it's nowhere near as bad as people make out , and her only side effect has been forgetfulness.   I  thought that was quite interesting .
Sorry for all the moaning and  good luck with the  mating xx

[honeybun]

I can't talk from personal experience but I did have a neighbour who had numerous ECT procedures. I knew her both before and after and the after was very very different. I know it's a very controversial treatment with strong feelings both for and against.
My neighbour was a completely different person and not in a good way. The spark was gone never to return.

I am sorry you are so low. Perhaps your GP will change your medication as what you are on does not seem to be working.


Honeyb
x

[bev567901]

Hi Mags it will be interesting to see what the doctor says. I think it will be lets see how you are in the New Year though as I think they need the new sertraline dose to work for 6 weeks. Who knows though he might have more in the pipe line than you think. Don't worry about not getting dressed its much more practical not to if you are not going out or just wear leggings & a long top. Its normal for me as I am either bleaching something, mating something or clearing up poo!
If you go on Channel 4 od you will see a recent programme called Bedlam. I thought ECT was something from the past but they used it in this programme with amazing results. Very interesting thought but you may have to be really bad to get it, was your Cousin in a very bad way?  She will relate though you have a good friend in her.
I want me back too no idea where she is.
I think the Sertraline has helped but feel like I need another kick up the bum. Maybe a higher dose? not sure. Maybe I am just rushing things. When I think back to the end of September I could do very little so maybe I need to just stay like this a bit longer. To have Matilda staying over is a big one, no idea why it should stress me but it is. Its like having a relative around if you know what I mean. They where collecting Tues but have txt to say Thurs now so feel a bit stressed about that. Whats another dog, nothing really so why stress?? Lots more work but I love hard work so ? just a panic thing like what if I went mental & couldn't cope.  They have come a long way not just around the corner, its just anxiety, stupid anxiety why do we let it in to fester.
I am off to cuddle Mr Tibbles he has to be the best kitten in the world but I am biased, when mummy dog is downstairs he sits & plays/sleeps & eats with the pups. I am so pleased with him & everyone adores him. Feel very lucky xxxx

[CLKD]

E C T is still used and can be administered without the patient's consent    ……… it is supposed to make the brain 'forget' how to be depressed 

When Dad had E C T it was done without anaesthetic, 5 men had to hold him down whilst the shocks were administered, now a GA is given before treatment.

[mags]

Hi Bev, yes it will be interesting to see what the doc says, I guess it will be  a case of give it more time      My cousin was in a bad way and in the past has had to go into hospital with  her depression.
You are bound to feel stressed with the extra work of another dog, especially when it isn't yours.   I still think you are doing brilliantly though, when  you say you could hardly do anything at the end of Sept, you have achieved so much since then, especially last Fri night with those people
round       Give mr Tibbles a big cuddle from me too xxx

[bev567901]

Yes I think you may have to be hospitalised to get it which no one would want to be in the situtation of, although when you feel really down you think maybe but then can you imagine it. I would panic at being locked in.   
I know what you mean re achieving as those Friday people came Saturday too & I had to deal with these other people on Sunday too but these things should be nothing.  I think we need to tell people more what is going on & get out there as hard as it might be. You do tend to find other people have similar issues that you never knew about when you confide.
See what the doc says, you never know he may have a magic solution we can live in hope. Or he might just give you a boost & being out will boost you too.
Hey ho tomorrow is another day,  can't believe we are so close to Christmas I am so hot ha ha xxxx 

[bev567901]

CLKD that is horrifying. I cannot imagine how it must have felt to have that done to you whilst awake. It doesn't seem humane at all xxxx

[mags]

Hi Bev,   I wish there was some magic solution but  I don't think there is one     I can't believe those people on forums who say they felt better straight away on medication, it must be placebo :-
I think you did so well to have those people round again and more the next day, well done you       My therapist told me that 1 in 3 people suffer from anxiety and depression, so we
are not alone, maybe if we did tell people more we would  find  that a lot of them are suffering too
I too am hot all the time and have the heating turned off when it's minus freezing outside xx

[mags]

Hi CLKD, that must have been  so awful for your dad,  my cousin said that she had a GA   in  the back of her hand and she felt ok afterwards. She had around seven sessions I thinkxx

[Taz2]

It does sound really barbaric to have it done without anaesthetic. Did it work CLKD?

https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/expertadvice/treatmentswellbeing/ect.aspx

Taz x