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Suzi Q

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Re: I've made a decision
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2013, 12:49:04 PM »

Take the AD they really really help
I know nothing about HRT I couldnt take it
The best thing I ever did was take ADS I took a very old one Prothidene
Takes about 1.3 weeks depending and one morning you just feel OK
Can you take the MINI PILL that can help
Dont bother with dead exy meno stuff that promioses the world
Hunny if it did theyd be richer than Bill gates
Have a read abouot meno and ADS you could always try them and if you dont like them stop
Your GP sounds nice but if your still having periods In not shocked she didnt give you HRT but I know nought of HRT x
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honeybun

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Re: I've made a decision
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2013, 12:51:44 PM »

Yes I have an idea......change your doctor to one who knows what they are talking about and who is more sympathetic.

Not to give you HRT until you have been period free for twelve months is ridiculous. What is her reasoning behind this.

If it was a logical statement then there would be no need for a sequi HRT.

Sorry this kind of thing makes me so angry. My GP is no expert but she gave me HRT without any problem at all when I was 48 and had not had a period for 8 months based purely on my symptoms.


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Hurdity

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Re: I've made a decision
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2013, 01:14:48 PM »

Hi angelindskie

I agree with honeybun - the 12 months thing is rubbish. You won't be offered continuous combined HRT until you have not had a period for 12 months but cyclical HRT is appropriate.

Do find another doctor asap - can you ask to see another one in your practice?

You are right to resist taking the ADs if you don't want them. How dare the doc try to fob you off with these drugs when it is a hormone you need? If your periods are irregular and you are having symptoms and you are in the right age bracket then HRT is sensible. Blood tests are an unreliable indictaor of menopause.

Here is a statement from Menopause Matters (from their Facebook page) posted on 13th May:
https://www.facebook.com/menopausedoesmatter?ref=ts&fref=ts

As it's Monday, it's time for some more common menopausal myths to be busted.

1. Antidepressants are not recommended for first-line treatment of menopausal symptoms such as flushes and low moods, yet are often offered by some GPs. Some antidepressants can be used if HRT is unable to be taken for medical reasons, but only after full discussion and after ruling out the use of HRT.


Good luck!

Hurdity x
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angelindskiexx

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Re: I've made a decision
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2013, 10:12:20 AM »

Yes I have an idea......change your doctor to one who knows what they are talking about and who is more sympathetic.

Not to give you HRT until you have been period free for twelve months is ridiculous. What is her reasoning behind this.

If it was a logical statement then there would be no need for a sequi HRT.

Sorry this kind of thing makes me so angry. My GP is no expert but she gave me HRT without any problem at all when I was 48 and had not had a period for 8 months based purely on my symptoms.


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Hi Honey,

First of all I have fibroids which causes very heavy periods.  She said she would need to give me cyclical HRT and that would bring on a period unless I could have the Mirena IUD which I refused because I'd tried the Mirena a few years ago but the progestin made me really irritable and depressed.  She also said that if she prescribed HRT I would need progesterone because I still have my uterus and then she went on to say that if I've had symptoms of depression and irritability with the Mirena I would have the same symptoms with any progestin that she prescribed.  That is her reasoning I guess. 

Not long after writing this thread I had spotting (very light period for 3 days)  It was hardy noticeable but I'm guessing that's why I had the surge in symptoms.

I've been feeling a lot better but I do wonder if not being on HRT is having a negative effect on my health.  I am having problems with dry eye and I ache all over today --  If I could I'd go on HRT tomorrow since I'm getting tired of my body being out of synch.
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angelindskiexx

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Re: I've made a decision
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2013, 10:14:03 AM »

Take the AD they really really help
I know nothing about HRT I couldnt take it
The best thing I ever did was take ADS I took a very old one Prothidene
Takes about 1.3 weeks depending and one morning you just feel OK
Can you take the MINI PILL that can help
Dont bother with dead exy meno stuff that promioses the world
Hunny if it did theyd be richer than Bill gates
Have a read abouot meno and ADS you could always try them and if you dont like them stop
Your GP sounds nice but if your still having periods In not shocked she didnt give you HRT but I know nought of HRT x

Thanks, Suzi,
I will look into ADs if I get any worse.  I might just get a second opinion from another doctor.
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angelindskiexx

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Re: I've made a decision
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2013, 10:17:33 AM »

Hi angelindskie

I agree with honeybun - the 12 months thing is rubbish. You won't be offered continuous combined HRT until you have not had a period for 12 months but cyclical HRT is appropriate.

Do find another doctor asap - can you ask to see another one in your practice?

You are right to resist taking the ADs if you don't want them. How dare the doc try to fob you off with these drugs when it is a hormone you need? If your periods are irregular and you are having symptoms and you are in the right age bracket then HRT is sensible. Blood tests are an unreliable indictaor of menopause.

Here is a statement from Menopause Matters (from their Facebook page) posted on 13th May:
https://www.facebook.com/menopausedoesmatter?ref=ts&fref=ts

As it's Monday, it's time for some more common menopausal myths to be busted.

1. Antidepressants are not recommended for first-line treatment of menopausal symptoms such as flushes and low moods, yet are often offered by some GPs. Some antidepressants can be used if HRT is unable to be taken for medical reasons, but only after full discussion and after ruling out the use of HRT.


Good luck!

Hurdity x

Hello Hurdity,
I've just explained in my other post what I think is behind my doctors decision not to prescribe HRT.  But I think I should get a second opinion?  What do you think?

I don't really want to try ADs....

Thanks for your post xx
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Hurdity

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Re: I've made a decision
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2013, 07:41:50 PM »

Hi angelindskie

I have no experience of fibroids but I understand what you are saying - basically she can't prescribe continuous combined HRT until you have been period free for 12 months, and prescribing cyclical HRT will aggravate your previously heavy periods due to fibroids.

The only way continuous progesterone is prescribed at any time is through the Mirena which as you say gave you pms symptoms.

She is wrong in saying that any progestin would give you the same symptoms unless you are progesterone intolerant. There are women on here who react to some progestins but not others - although with the Mirena less is absorbed into the system.

Micronised progesterone ( marketed as utrogestan) which is bio-identical, may not give you the same symptoms but is a far less powerful progestogen than some of the synthetic ones so may not be as effective at preventing growth of your fibroids - especially on a cyclical basis.

Here is what it says on this site about fibroids and HRT -a lthough I expect you've already read up on it:

Fibroids are benign smooth muscle tumours of the uterine (womb) wall and are dependant on estrogen. They tend to shrink after the menopause but shrinkage may not occur, or they may even increase in size with HRT use. Increase is thought to occur in 25% of HRT users and mainly occurs in the first six months of therapy. There is some evidence that transdermal (patch or gel) but not tablet HRT nor tibolone may promote fibroid growth. [ref 24] Fibroid size can be monitored by regular examinations and sometimes by ultrasound scans. There is some evidence that the use of the progestogen releasing intra-uterine system, Mirena may cause fibroids to reduce in size. Mirena is often used in the perimenopause by women who have heavy periods and/or require contraception and can provide the progestogen part of their HRT.

My view would be - if your overall health and quality of life is being affected by menopausal symptoms, and lack of oestrogen, I would be tempted to treat the problem which is preventing you replacing the oestrogen through HRT ie the fibroids which could flare up with added oestrogen.

Have you looked into treating these surgically rather than with a progestogen? If you don't then they will always be there ready to be stimulated by oestrogen, but you won't be able to take continuous combined HRT until 12 months without a period - and even then you may have some bleeding once you re-start the oestrogen.

I know surgical means are more drastic but may help you in the longer term?

I would definitely get a second opinion

Hurdity x
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