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pixie

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #135 on: March 13, 2013, 12:51:48 PM »

Thats a good idea. I do get dreadful headaches with this, and after this week of fasting, think I will go back to smaller meals daily as finding it difficult! X ;)
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Firewalker50

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #136 on: March 13, 2013, 01:34:31 PM »

Fortunately I don't get headaches, pixie.  I feel good on those.  Days and sometimes hungry.  I am actually start the fasting days feeling positive about it - even look forward to it.

It has to suit us an individuals and you may need a different regime perhaps?  I am cutting down today because I was out for meals and had wine and treats Sat, Sun, Tues. Too much. ;D

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Winterose

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #137 on: March 13, 2013, 03:59:03 PM »

Pixie

Perhaps try a few more calories, I couldnt manage on 500 and now do 700 and still lost weight, - am now at maintenance level, I am quite active though.  Perhaps the health benefits arent quite as dramatic but certainly so much easier doing 2 days a week .I still feel really hungry in the evening and have to go to bed early , find that once in bed with lots of water in my tummy I stop feeling hungry. Feel hugely energised by this and look forward to the diet days :D
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Hurdity

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #138 on: March 13, 2013, 05:06:12 PM »

Hi there - pixie - if you get headaches - then maybe it's not for you?

I mean it is possible to lose weight steadily without any discomfort at all - so why put yourself through this? We have enough to put up with menopausally as it is!

The thing is I understand that much of the work on ADF is skewed towards males and is specifically looking at body weight and other related physiological responses. I have read ( and most of us know) that there are sex specific differences in metabolism due to our different hormonal make-up and control mechanisms, so one would expect the response to ADF to be different in women.

There is an article (quite technical!) here which suggests it could even be harmful - particularly for women of reproductive age.

http://www.paleoforwomen.com/shattering-the-myth-of-fasting-for-women-a-review-of-female-specific-responses-to-fasting-in-the-literature/

(btw I have not read any other articles on the site but this one struck a chord)

OK not to believe everything on the internet but it is citing reputable scientific studies (some of which are done on rats!) which are linked to in the article  and does not seem cranky to me - unlike some you read.

If you feel bad on it why not go for the lower fat option - like the Slimming World approach - I mentioned this on your muffin top thread. It is really easy and you do not get headaches, feel tired nor hungry!

Fine for those who feel OK but I've decided it is not for me - because maybe it is actually not good for women - whereas the slow but steady route can only do you good.

Hurdity x

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pixie

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #139 on: March 13, 2013, 10:55:11 PM »

Thanks ladies, I'll see what the scales say on Friday. I'm pleased with the weight loss I don't get that hungry, mainly headaches. I read somewhere that the body starts burning fat and releasing toxins when you first begin to fast hence the headache. I had been fasting for 18 hours!! After lunch I was fine, no headache, then had a mackerell salad with avocado, so probably have had more like 700-800 today! I'm keen to continue with it because one of the days I didn't have a headache, so there must be a way around it. x
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Firewalker50

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #140 on: March 13, 2013, 11:24:55 PM »

Mackerel, salad, avocado .............. mmmmmmmm yummee  ;D
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pixie

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #141 on: March 13, 2013, 11:28:23 PM »

Yes, my fasting diet is a bit of joke today really, oh and a banana :parti:.  It was supposed to be soup and salad  ;D too chilly today.  However, I'm going to try Michaels choice of 2 scrambled eggs and ham for b'fast and fish and a pile of veg in the evening!! x
How are you getting on Firewalker, having a fast tomorrow?

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Firewalker50

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #142 on: March 14, 2013, 12:01:30 AM »

Yes pixie. Have not worked out eating plan yet. Will have a coffee in the morning then shop in lunch-break for lunch and evening.   Will read the book for inspiration.

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Winterose

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #143 on: March 14, 2013, 11:41:08 AM »

Pixie

Sounds like a good idea to try Michael's menus as it wont be so random then and protein with lots of veg ( grown above ground rather than below) really fill you up.  One of the studies done on rats which suggests its not so good for women was on ADF fasting which is alternate day and not  to be confused with 5:2 . Lots of people confuse these 2 ways of eating. Am sure ADF is a great help if you are seriously overweight.
  However cutting calories for 2 days a week is unlikely to cause much of a problem in a healthy person.  Another notable side affect is I have noticed my recall is much more like it was when I was in my 30s which is fantastic, look for the Marks and Spencer calorie counted meals .  :D
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Winterose

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #144 on: March 14, 2013, 11:49:36 AM »

Just looked at the Rat study listed in above article and it is ADF and not 5:2, will be interesting to see what comes out of all this!
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Winterose

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #145 on: March 14, 2013, 11:59:22 AM »

Last post today so I dont bore everyone, Pixie are you drinking lots of water as that might help, squeeze of lemon helps . :P
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pixie

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #146 on: March 14, 2013, 01:52:06 PM »

Hi I will try more water, because I do get very constipated with it.  I mainly drank tea, coffee, cocoa and no water yesterday. Apparently headaches can be quite common with fasting. x
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Winterose

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #147 on: March 14, 2013, 02:31:41 PM »

 I got constipated too but now eat 3 prunes with my yogurt in the morning and 1 teaspoon of physyllum husks, that with lots of water solves that problem. Possibly dont fast for 18hrs either as probably too much for you , I have last meal around 7.30 and breakfast at 8.30 ish as if I leave it too long feel weak,
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Firewalker50

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #148 on: March 14, 2013, 03:07:47 PM »

1 cup of coffee - 90 cal
I had M&S low calorie fuller longer meal for lunch - it was delicious. 325 cal
I have 2 x large flat capped stuffed mushrooms for later - 120 cal

I am used to not eating breakfast (not good I know) so it is fairly easy for me to go from evening meal around 8pm until lunch around 1pm but I don't advocate that - it just happens that way for me due to my day routine.   If I am only having 2 meals, then I prefer lunch and evening.

From mid-afternoon onwards I become more aware to drink water and so consume around 2 litres within a 3 hour time-span.

I like to eat a heap of mixed veg as a meal in the evening, so usually do that on one of the days.

I have not had constipation so far, or headaches, so grateful for that.

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CLKD

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting
« Reply #149 on: March 14, 2013, 03:11:49 PM »

The headaches could be caused by low blood sugar i.e. not eating enough!  We are not built to fast .............. to lose calories one needs to eat, well, calorlies  ::) ....... eating less + exercise????
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