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honeybun

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Re: NICE report this morning
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2015, 06:41:44 PM »

I wonder how long it will be before it filters down and how long before testosterone is available on the NHS.

I suspect by the time it happens I will have forgotten how it all goes anyway  ::)


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Taz2

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Re: NICE report this morning
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2015, 06:42:41 PM »

I reckon it's just like riding a bike....

Taz x  ;D
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honeybun

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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2015, 06:43:49 PM »

I was forever falling off my bike Taz  ;D

Can't see this being any different  ::)


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Re: NICE report this morning
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2015, 08:39:36 PM »

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Taz2

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2015, 09:27:08 PM »

The falling off doesn't matter - it's the fun of learning... getting back on again...

Taz x  :rofl:
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SallyG

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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2015, 05:05:47 AM »

This is all a relief to hear. And thank you for posting links. It sounds like some kind of progress. I can relate to the marriage thing. Husband was very worried last night when I spoke to him on the phone. He must get sick of worrying about me especially when he's away.

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dogdoc

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Re: NICE report this morning
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2015, 10:40:16 AM »

I read somewhere it takes about 10 years for stuff like this to filter down into general practice. Essentially a new generation of docs. Booo
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oldsheep

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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2015, 10:52:19 AM »

thanks for the link. I wonder how many GPs will find time to read it though.
When I asked at the meno clinic once about testosterone, they said way too problematic. I see there's a bit * next to it in the draft report as well.
I also noticed that (if I read it right) the report doesn't state that the million woman studies were based on non bio-identical hormones like Premarin. They suggest they were flawed, but for other reasons. The sense I would get of the whole caboodle if I were a GP was to on-refer to meno clinics.
One of the 2 GPs in my surgery does this (says he knows nothing about HRT) and the other (female) is scared stiff of it and think it'll kill you if taken for longer than 5 years. She even thinks vagifem can give you cancer.  Both of them are in their 40s.
At OH's (better) surgery, most of the women GPs are very wary of HRT according to other people I know at that practice (OH didn't ask for it  :D).
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peegeetip

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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2015, 11:07:41 AM »

What is the problem with Testosterone, the therapy is cheap and effective.

We lost earlier options because very few docs prescribed it.

The only * in my mind is that most options now would be off label use of "mens" products.

That in itself is not a problem as they have been using AD's off label for years :)

Glad to see that AD's are not going to be available as an immediate front line crutch for doc's too "scared" to prescribe HRT products.

I've only just heard of a friend of the family who's been treated for years now for regular urine infections, all on the hush hush apparently but otherwise she was "going thru meno without problems" from what she'd said.
Had she had some estrogen over the years the urine infections would have never happened and long term misuse of antibiotics would have been avoided. I hope this will avoid these stupid situations.

Another related link to this post.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3106691/You-HRT-menopausal-women-high-blood-pressure-doctors-told.html

And at the end it says studies have proved Vit D does not help manage menopause symptoms.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3106041/The-supplements-DON-T-ease-misery-menopause-Woman-taking-Vitamin-D-calcium-suffer-hot-flushes-headaches-sleepless-nights.html

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