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[Jenny50]

That should say "heart attack".

J X

[CLKD]

He did    ......... and jogging is bad for the hips, knees and ankle bones!  Brisk walking with others can be fun!

[CLKD]

I am beginning to grow a roll under my breasts 

[CLKD]

   home grown tomatos and locally raised cheese 

[Melbury]

Gynae told me that women change shape during menopause and it is the norm to put on about a stone in weight  

Body lays down fat because it can get small amounts of oestrogen from it and the fat goes around the middle, which is why we turn into apples.  All pretty depressing really.

[CLKD]

I love swimming but not the changing rooms  .............

[2cats]

THANK YOU!  for all your wonderfully supportive, informative and helpful replies.  It's been so good to be able to 'talk' to other women about all this, and especially thankful to the lady who wrote more about Tibolone... I must admit, I didn't know it was a sort of HRT, I thought it was just another anti-depressant, so that was incredibly useful.  I might give it a try.  I feel a bit like a lab-rat/guinnea pig going through all these various drugs with my doctor, who actually is enormously helpful, and is forever scouring his medical journals for other things we can try, while I'm sitting grizzling in his surgery...

I put on my first slathering of 'Serenity' cream this morning after my shower, and am expecting great things!  I do feel that when you get to this stage of feeling absolutely strung out and desperate, we will try almost anything, and spend loads of money on 'miracle cures' that often are a load of rubbish... still, gotta try. 

Another awful thing I find is that from going from a size 10 for most of my life, I seem to be developing love-handles, thunder-thighs and a sort of fatty tyre under my boobs that I have NEVER had before!  It doesn't matter how many sit-ups I do, or walks with the dog I go on, it doesn't seem to make any difference at all - whereas pre-meno I could get rid of a few pounds with ease.  This really is naffing me off, and I feel fat and unattractive...  can somebody tell me anything positive at all, about this stage in our lives??

All I can think of is that after going through this living hell, we will grow as people and have strength to deal with whatever life throws at us post menopause??? Will that do for today ?

[CLKD]

Yep sure will!

[Melbury]

If there is any justice we should, but I somehow doubt that   I am always the eternal pessimist.

[Melbury]

Me too, my husband once gave me a birthday card that said on the front 'Happy Birthday to a born pessimist' and inside it said 'hope your birthday is every bit as bad as you expect it to be' 

Oh that's lovely Larky

[CLKD]

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[giniboz]

Hi again,  yes, have been reading up on this weight gain associated with the menopause, and it would seem that you can fight it as much as you like, it's going to be much harder to shift than ever before!  Oh the joy...!

I referred to the fact that I had bought Serenity cream off the internet, well... it ain't working.  If anything, I am waking slightly MORE in the nights, dripping with sweat, and I feel like a real twit buying into all the hype on the internet... I guess it must work for some women though, or they wouldn't make it, right?  Anybody had success with it out there?  Or how about Wild Yam cream?

Went to the doc's yesterday and he had told me Tibolone is a bad choice for me. He got his book out (again), and looked it up, and said that the BC link is too dodgy for me to try, so.... he has put me on Beta-Blockers!  Started yesterday, and he said I will know within around 10 days if it is going to make any difference i.e. ease my horrific symptoms, so here's hoping.  (One thing I do find a bit difficult is the fact that he is a young, dashing 30-year old chap, and as pleasant and polite as he is, I feel that he is getting a bit tired and bored of this wild-eyed 50-year old woman turning up every fortnight like a bad penny practically begging him to give me anything that might help... might see if the practice has a female GP that I can see)

Made love with my lovely partner this morning, after a 3-week sex famine, and felt... NOTHING.  Well, I felt guilty actually, as I love him very much, but just cannot get aroused!!!  Went through the motions whilst making a mental shopping list in my head for Sainsbury's later on.... and we used to have the most wonderful times in bed!  I feel so sad.. this is what I hadn't bargained for, this zero interest in sex.

[CLKD]

You made love with him - which he will appreciate.  Don't tell him about the list making  ....... what goes on in your head is not for his ears ............. I find that if I make the approach and we get on with it, I feel OK and he gets what he needs 

[san]

The sex thing is rubbish isn't it    There was me before this Meno started thinking no period = no worries. Now I couldn't give a monkeys if we do or don't. 

[giniboz]

It really is tragic.  When we first met a couple of years ago our sex life was so wonderful, and I feel sorry for him more than anything, that he now has to put up with me being so totally disinterested... I always promised him that I would never 'fake it' but I have done now, twice, and it makes me feel like a fraud and almost disloyal to him.  I must say, I had never heard of this particular side effect of the meno, and never knew about yukky stuff like 'vaginal atrophy' (think that's what it's called).  It makes me feel old, like I'm drying up like an old woman, and I'm frightened by that.  On a brighter note, a colleague at work (who I have confided in, she's 57 and out the other side of the meno) did say that once this nightmare is over, her interest in sex was renewed, and she has a lovely sexual relationship with her partner now.  That does give me hope.