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Dandelion

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2015, 05:47:25 PM »

No I don't mind you asking,nothing's sacred nowadays !  ;D

I was 49 still having periods regularly,totally normal woman then ,out of the blue for absolutely no reason I became nauseous,horrendous panic attacks,palpitations,anxiety,I was off work for about 4 months ! Took me that length of time to go through all the doctors at my surgery then to finally get one to agree it was hormonal! Most wanted me to have ADs,I wouldn't,well I tried a few mainly to placate them ,couldn't get on with them. One doctor even wrote me a prescription for an asthma inhaler which he said was why I had a tight chest and feeling of not being able to breath properly! It wasn't !
Eventually started hrt symptoms all went ! Back to work happy bunny,until now symptoms started to creep back end of last year so trying to get hrt tweaked which has been a roller coaster to say the least . Thought it would be easy as I struck lucky with first hrt. :-\
Just started another one this weekend so we will see but I must say the mirtazapine has stabilized me somewhat . If this new regime seems to suit I will attempt to stop taking mirtazapine, if symptoms come back I will continue mirtazapine,if hrt this time doesn't suit me I will stop the hrt and see if I can cope without it just the ADS! If that doesn't work guess it's back to the drawing board !
It's a shame it all went well first time, and now, your having struggles.
I was having meno symptoms about 5yrs before I started hrt. Started at 42 but got periods all teh way throughout, although irregular. An australian online friend suggested I get tested and look for hrt.
the regime I am on now is almost helping, but like a shoe that is just that bit too tight,  I need the next size up or next dose up and I should be ok.
My symptoms got worse and worse over the last 5 years, more so last year and the year before, flushes got hotter, more sweat etc
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CLKD

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2015, 06:08:22 PM »

Don't need HRT apart from to ease vaginal atrophy.  That was like razor blades up there  >:(
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GypsyRoseLee

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2015, 07:11:43 PM »

Thank you Dazned. Sorry for being nosey.

It sounds like our symptoms arrived out of nowhere in the same way. Though I was younger and only 43 when all this started. I took amitriptyline last year to help deal with the mood swings and anxiety. it helped but to be honest the anxiety still was capable of breaking through. Gaining 14lbs in weight wasn't pleasant either.

I hope you get your new HRT sorted soon. I get so angry that all these days I am losing to anxiety/low mood I can NEVER get back  >:(
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GypsyRoseLee

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2015, 07:18:32 PM »

Thanks for replying Dandelion.

Touch wood I have never yet had a hot flush or a night sweat. Physically I am getting away virtually Scot free with symptoms. But my Mum didn't experience any physical symptoms either. But like me suddenly started suffering with random anxiety as she entered her 40s. And as a young girl I remember her having mood swings. Being sad and tearful one moment, then an hour later laughing and giggling.

 
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dazned

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2015, 08:00:54 PM »

Just to add I've never touch wood had hot flushes either just get all the other rubbish >:(
Are we related GypsyRoseLee!  ;D

Ive never ,ever been an anxious person before this time,always an incontrol person which I think now makes these feelings much worse because I have no control over Damn hormones  >:(

Interestingly the specialist asked me how were my periods when I was a teenager regards pmt ,I was truly evil coming up to my period way back then,you didn't dare look sideways at me !  ::) but I sort of grew out of it and he said it was linked but instead of being hot headed and purely venomous it now manifests as anxiety . :-\
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GypsyRoseLee

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2015, 10:02:24 PM »

Very interesting Dazned.

I had dreadful PMS through my late teens and twenties, too. When I saw my consultant she said she would diagnose me on the basis of just 3 questions.

1. had I always suffered with PMS - YES
2. how did I feel when I was pregnant - GREAT
3. how did I feel after having my baby - AWFUL PND

She said that was all she needed to know, and that I was a classic candidate for hormonal related anxiety/depression caused by peri menopause. She wasn't even interested the results of my blood tests (normal).
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dazned

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2015, 08:29:48 AM »

Most don't go on blood tests as they only show a snapshot of that day which means nothing really,they go on symptoms.
It's all trial and error unfortunately,and what suits one doesn't suit other's. :-\
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Dandelion

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2015, 11:18:00 AM »

Thanks for replying Dandelion.

Touch wood I have never yet had a hot flush or a night sweat. Physically I am getting away virtually Scot free with symptoms. But my Mum didn't experience any physical symptoms either. But like me suddenly started suffering with random anxiety as she entered her 40s. And as a young girl I remember her having mood swings. Being sad and tearful one moment, then an hour later laughing and giggling.
Hi

It's good you have not had flushes or night sweats, they just add to the misery for  me.
Sorry to hear you have the moods.
Sometimes we can take after our mothers with meno, but I don't know who I get my genes from.
I have two sisters the same age as me, well a year and a year and a half apart, and I don't contact them very often, but my mum does and she says that they are just starting, now to get early perimenopause symptoms.
One sister doesn't want to use hrt, she wants to use mind over matter, dunno about the other sister.
My mum said no one in family, as far as she knows, started perimenopause in their early forties like I did. I must be a throw-back hahahahahh
I think that because i have always had a nervous disposition and fight-or-flight has biological process, maybe because I have always released lots of stress hormones, then this may have had an effect on my endocrine system and sparked off an early meno.
My dad was a stress-head and I kind of knew he would die with a heart attack and he did. Just goes to show how a stress-head personality, or a nervy personality like me, can affect the body, I suppose it's logical really.
I woke up and even before I woke, I felt anxious and hot. I did have two tops on last night though, a short sleeved top and as my arms got cold, a long sleeve one, so that could have made me hot.
I'm looking forward to trying the evorel 100, that dose might be my sweet spot.
The 75mcg has definitely reduced my sweats and flushes and also helped my IBS.
I'm not fully banking on it, but I hope it lifs my mood and helps me not to feel so scared all the time.
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dogdoc

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2015, 11:53:28 AM »

Dazed.  Can you tell me what dose of HRT ypu started way back when that worked so well for you 4 years ago. About two years ago the bad symptoms started. I'm only 42 now so definitely early for peri. On hrt now and so much better!!! But also so not normal still lol.

Sitting here wondering if the new 'arthritis' feeling in my hands is hormonal or just me getting old.  :P.

Currently on 37.5 first half of cycle, and 50 in the second half to counter the rapid drop. Big improvement from last month. But would like to feel more normal if possible.
So uncertain if I should just go up till all symptoms go away or just take enough hrt to take the edge off.

Tara
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dazned

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2015, 12:33:02 PM »

Hi Dogdoc I was on Estelle duet 1mg estrogen/1mg progesterone.It worked a treat for me. You say 42 is early for peri but really there is no definitive age ! When I look back now I realise for a couple of years before I had hrt things were awry,did ask doctors could it be hormonal they said I was too young ! At that time I was very naive hadn't even heard of peri,just thought you had menopause !  :-\
Hopefully I will get on track with new regime soon but it goes to show things fluctuate so you have to be prepared to change meds to keep track with your body .
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CLKD

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2015, 04:07:22 PM »

'mind over matter' - we'll wait and see on that one then ………... ;)
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dazned

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2015, 04:29:39 PM »

Mind over matter ....... :whist:
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Dandelion

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2015, 09:46:11 AM »

Dazed.  Can you tell me what dose of HRT ypu started way back when that worked so well for you 4 years ago. About two years ago the bad symptoms started. I'm only 42 now so definitely early for peri. On hrt now and so much better!!! But also so not normal still lol.

Sitting here wondering if the new 'arthritis' feeling in my hands is hormonal or just me getting old.  :P.

Currently on 37.5 first half of cycle, and 50 in the second half to counter the rapid drop. Big improvement from last month. But would like to feel more normal if possible.
So uncertain if I should just go up till all symptoms go away or just take enough hrt to take the edge off.

Tara
Hi Tara

You can have perimeno at 42. I started mine then, I'm 48 now. I'd been having that 'morning dread' seconds after waking, or on waking, and flushes and sweats for five years before I realised I was perimeno.
I just assumed I'd be more like 52 when I started it. I was on psychiatric medication and coming off tranquilers at the time and I put the anxiety, sweats, flushes down to drug withdrawl.
I'm on evorel patches and utro, I'm no the 75mcg, and it has defnitiely helped, but I still get really warm, and some flushes, but not as troublesome. The moods and morning dread are still here. I'm going to trial the evorel 100mcg for a month and then go back to my GP.
It's taken me a couple of years to get the hrt right, I started on femoston pills which did nothing.
Oh, and another thing, I had really bad IBS and the evorel 75mcg has definitely had a positive effect on that, as it was really troublesome.
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dogdoc

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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2015, 10:52:03 AM »

Thanks dazed and dandelion. Yeah. Looking back I'm going to have to say symptoms likey started in my late 30's ( irregular cycles and 10 days of pms... Which I've not ever really glad before). 40's is when it kicked into high gear.  :

So far on the hrt for the first two weeks im( dare I say it) almost back to normal but the second half things 'break through' but they're still better. The insomnias back and the arrhythmia and anxiety are also trying break through. But copable. Might stick it out at this rose for a month or two and just see what happens.

:) Tara
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Re: Anxiety - an Observation
« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2015, 12:30:21 PM »

Such a reassuring thread to read of others experiences so I know I'm not going mad!  The anxiety and panic attacks are the one thing about perimenopause I really find hard to cope with and impacts on my life more than anything.  Just comes out of the blue and is utterly horrid and like so many others have said, appears when there is no reason to be worried/anxious/frightened.  I miss my old self when going through phases like this and hope beyond hope that some semblance of how I felt pre all of this stuff will return.
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