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Title: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 09, 2020, 07:01:58 PM
The two NHS workers who had reactions have underlying health issues due to allergies, they both carry Epi-pens.  By vaccinating those that may be at higher risk means that more information will be gained.  However, those with known allergies are advised not to undergo C-19 vaccinations.

The lady that had her 1st jab yesterday has already been reunited with her family  :-\. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on December 09, 2020, 07:39:04 PM
My OH is booked in for his this Sunday.
We've to travel to Warwick for it, but it's not that far from us.

He also had his antibody test back today, and he DOES have antibodies.
They've been really quick getting the results back, he only did it Monday. 👍🏼
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 09, 2020, 07:58:53 PM
That's good.    As I woke this morning at 9.30 I did wonder if OH has had regular tests to C if he's negative for Covid prior to this jab and whether he will get tests after wards?  Is this the 2-in-1 - Sunday and then in 21 days? and what will be the protocol, can you mix straight away with others?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 10, 2020, 01:22:09 PM
Many people who have known allergic reactions have been told to avoid C-19 jabs for the time being.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on December 10, 2020, 02:46:13 PM
Just heard my son is to get it in the USA as he is a paramedic there. First in the line. Paramedics have less protection than those working in covid wards. Yesterday he had to transport a covid patient for an hour sitting in the back with him in a small ambulance. Trump didn’t authorise the purchase the recommended amount of vaccines for the USA. So now they are at the back of the queue.

I’m pleased for my daughter that she can have the covid vaccine, as she can’t have the normal flu vaccine because of an allergy of eggs. She’s on some ‘list’ for an egg free flu vaccine. She’s a front line worker with homeless people. Interestingly, none of the residents of the hostels have yet been infected, despite lifestyle.

I will carry on being careful even after vaccination, until they are sure it is long term effective. Not so difficult for me as I’m retired and live in the country. It will make me relax more visiting my Mum though.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on December 10, 2020, 02:55:17 PM
Yes it's the first of two.
He's tested regular now for covid, and gets the results very quickly.
I must say, I'm well impressed with how quick they got the antibody test results to him.
Although it showed he was positive, it's still a matter of the guidelines, it's not a guarantee he wouldn't catch it again. Plus he has to wear full PPE at work anyway.
We don't go out much when at home , and his work place have asked ' to be careful where you go when not at work' . Obviously for the protection of the staff, as they don't want it being spread around again. It's hard now they've stopped agency staff working. So it's a matter of being sensible in what we do and where we go.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 10, 2020, 03:18:32 PM
Better to stop employing agency workers for now, as there is no way of finding out where they have been prior to each new job.  Do they isolate between each position I wonder?

Ju Ju - you must be relieved?  Hopefully the new US President will be more up2date?

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on December 10, 2020, 04:58:18 PM
Yes I am. Maine was not too bad, but now numbers are rising. The hospital he operates out of has been designated as a vaccine hub. I don’t know if he will be involved in vaccinating people, but they are starting with first responders.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Penguin99 on December 10, 2020, 08:03:10 PM
I won't be having it, and my hubby doesn't want it either. I just don't feel ready for it. I personally don't feel there's been enough research, there's no saying what long term effects this has. There could be problems down the line. Look at when they said asbestos was safe ??? Its just my personal opinion. There was a poll on TV this morning and it asked who would want it and who wouldn't,  it was 57% & 43%. I can't remember which way round it was. Dr Hilary was mortified at the amount of people that didn't want it. But its personal preference and for me its a no no. I do understand why people want it and I'm not saying people shouldn't,  just for the time being, it won't be me.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on December 10, 2020, 08:12:14 PM
I'm having it as soon as I can. I'm fed up with living this half life. No gigs. No pub. No real meeting up with my sons. Fearful of everything and everyone so hopefully this will be a step along a long road to a bit more normal living.

The research usually takes a long time due to lack of funding rather than time from what a doctor friend explained to me but I'm not sure what to believe to be honest.

Taz x   :)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: milly on December 10, 2020, 08:17:00 PM
I will have it because I don’t see an alternative. As far as I can see it’s have the vaccine or live like this for years... this isn’t going away.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Penguin99 on December 10, 2020, 08:55:38 PM
I think that's part of the problem Taz, lack of understanding. For me, its too soon. I totally understand people wanting to get it ASAP. My children live with me so I'm very lucky they are here. I dont see a lot of my parents. My mum has cancer and she has said she doesn't want it, its a decision only she should make, no doubt her cancer doc will advise her to have it. I'm not a believer in telling people what to do, I believe you have the right to make your own choices. My dad is a bit " you should do this/that" and is very much "right" , sometimes I just agree as its easier but other times I will tell him.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 10, 2020, 09:11:29 PM
A lack of funding may be the initial cause of research, however, once it gets to the end result, B4 approval, there's then a rush to sell it to the highest bidder.  Until the Licence runs out when it comes to the market cheaper as more companies rush to produce it to the widest buyer.  Then NICE gets involved  ::)

It shows how quickly, when necessary, the World can get together to produce something that will work.  It will be refined as the years go by and as more vaccines come on stream.  There will be some that have side effects, which will hit the news, but that's the same with many medications anyway.  I hope that the opportunity to lodge any reactions will be more available . I've never been offered the yellow card for anything.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on December 10, 2020, 11:11:44 PM
Throughout the history of vaccines, there has always been suspicion and mistrust and misinformation. But when you consider what vaccines can protect us from...... I remember people in callipers after polio and they were survivors. I was one of the first to receive that vaccine. And measles complications. I did have measles with no complications, but a friend had meningitis. Fortunately she survived. I listen to an excellent podcast called ‘This Podcast will kill you!’, which has an episode all about vaccines, before covid 19, in their back catalogue. Worth listening to.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 11, 2020, 10:13:53 AM
Jenner has a lot to answer for  :-* apparently the Museum is in dire straights due to no visitors this year  :-\.  :'(.  Even then there were people who were afraid of quackery, which it must have seemed to them. 

We had several children in school with polio [1955].  Whooping cough was the other killer, I stayed with 4 kids with that, the baby of 5 months literally shook from head to toe with each spasm.  I vaguely remember chicken pox due to the calamine lotion which itched: and measles, felt OK until I looked in the mirror - then I felt really ill.  We had parties in those days so that 'it' went round everyone.

What stands out is that some countries still suffer the above diseases.  Smallpox is all but eradicated so if C-19 can be taken under control B4 it mutates too much, it will help World Wide.

Don't feel guilty about waiting.  It's a personal decision which may improve as we learn more about how effective it might be etc..
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on December 11, 2020, 02:15:46 PM
I'll have it as soon as I can because the alternative is worse. MIL (late 80s,heart condition) won't survive it and there's a fair chance OH and I won't either. I had pleurisy as a teenager which has left some damage to my lungs and presumably increases my risk. I might have other risk factors I don't know about yet (early stage cancer etc).

I wonder if there'll be some incentive to have it? Travel to foreign countries is an obvious one but pubs etc could impose restrictions too.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 11, 2020, 03:07:17 PM
They have already said that they won't have vaccine passports as there is not enough knowledge as to how long cover might last. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Kathleen on December 11, 2020, 05:01:48 PM
Hello ladies.

Anyone watching Dr John Campbell's YouTube videos will know this story.

It seems there was a lot of suspicion about the Polio vaccine when it was introduced in the USA in 1954. Two years later a  young man stepped forward and had the injection, an event that attracted a lot of publicity at the time. A year later the cases of Polio fell by 900 million saving the lives of many people and sparing others a lifetime of disability.
The young man's name was Elvis Presley.

I wonder how many of us would have died in childhood without our vaccinations?  I will certainly have the COVID jab when I can and so will my husband.

Take care ladies.

K.

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on December 11, 2020, 10:48:07 PM
Wow, that's a brilliant piece of information Kathleen. Who knew? 🤷‍♀️
What a brave man.


I'm having it too. I've got the faith. 😉
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on December 12, 2020, 07:13:24 AM
Wow, that's a brilliant piece of information Kathleen. Who knew? 🤷‍♀️
What a brave man.


I'm having it too. I've got the faith. 😉

Not sure faith is really appropriate, in matters of science and medicine.  ???  Okay for religion though.

I will bide my time.  Being in group 7 it will likely be months before my turn comes around.  Hopefully by then I will be more confident about the vaccine on offer.  Also any problems will be more apparent.  If there is any, that is.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 12, 2020, 09:24:40 AM
Did I ready somewhere yesterday that the Australian trials are showing signs of HIV in volunteers?  :-\
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Gnatty on December 12, 2020, 09:43:26 AM
False positives, I believe?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on December 12, 2020, 09:51:52 AM
Well, I have faith or 'trust' in the vaccine.  ;)
People were in this same situation years ago when polio and diphtheria ect...were around.
I'm with Kathleen, and seeing someone close to me nearly die, I'm damn sure we're having it. 👍🏼

Actually, my OH has his first one tomorrow.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on December 12, 2020, 10:00:44 AM
Well, I have faith or 'trust' in the vaccine.  ;)
People were in this same situation years ago when polio and diphtheria ect...were around.
I'm with Kathleen, and seeing someone close to me nearly die, I'm damn sure we're having it. 👍🏼

Actually, my OH has his first one tomorrow.

Oh, I am not anti-Vax, but I prefer to be cautious.  Having had a nasty reaction to a smallpox vaccine when I was 7, which made me seriously ill for 2 weeks, I need much more information.

We all have different personal experiences.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on December 12, 2020, 10:03:11 AM
Might be better to stay off the US anti-vacc sites too. The UK antivaccs had a bit of setback when it was proved the MMR jab didn't cause autism and Andrew Wakefield was struck off. Shame about the children who suffered because of it.

I think they've abandoned trials of that vaccine in Australia. It shows that the trials are doing their job.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on December 13, 2020, 10:38:23 PM
I would’ve had it but I carry 2 epipens so will have to wait until a suitable one is available x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on December 13, 2020, 10:50:35 PM
I would’ve had it but I carry 2 epipens so will have to wait until a suitable one is available x

Maybe the Oxford one Annie.  It works in a different way I believe, so perhaps more suitable.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Penguin99 on December 14, 2020, 12:14:21 AM

seeing someone close to me nearly die, I'm damn sure we're having it. 👍🏼

Actually, my OH has his first one tomorrow.

I know 5 people that have died from covid, the youngest was just 22 :'(
I still won't have it (yet), its just my own preference,  I just feel its far too soon.  The hospital told my husband to take these wonderful infusions for his health issues, and he would notice a massive difference,  well the side effects were horrendous,  thankfully he now has a steroid injection and no longer needs these awful things. It just shows how people react differently to medicines.
Hope your hubby got on OK with his
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on December 14, 2020, 11:52:39 AM
My son is having his vaccine in a few days. He’s a paramedic int the USA. He said his boss had spent the day arguing with bosses behind desks, who were insisting they install medical fridges, which will take at least 6 weeks to get delivered. Meanwhile, thousands more people could die! The now recommended fridge is a Walmart one. As long as a fridge keeps the vaccines at the right temperature, then it shouldn’t matter in an emergency! It’s like saying we’re wait for a defibrillater instead of doing CPR! I’ve heard here that doctors are complaining the lack of necessary needles and the same old problem of not enough PPE.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on December 14, 2020, 11:55:18 AM
I think too many private providers Juju.  Many are just not up to scratch.  ::)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 14, 2020, 12:00:52 PM
Hey ho! we've known for weeks, even B4 it was released to the World, how the 1st vaccine needs to be kept at below ?C and that it can be taken in/out of the freezer 4 times only.  The next 1 to come on stream won't, according to the news, be as sensitive  ::).

It usually boils down to money! 

Many GPs in the UK won't be doing vaccinations: they have been told by Health England and the BMA that they either have to give their surgeries totally to administering the vaccine or to usual patient care: that they cannot do both as the Health Service can't spread it's self any thinner.  Several HAs have decided to keep their Surgery time for all patient care.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on December 14, 2020, 02:04:48 PM
I don't think this a money issue, it's the problem of keeping at at -70 which obviously needs specialist equipment.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on December 14, 2020, 05:29:52 PM
I would’ve had it but I carry 2 epipens so will have to wait until a suitable one is available x

I’m hoping that one will be suitable x

Maybe the Oxford one Annie.  It works in a different way I believe, so perhaps more suitable.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on December 14, 2020, 06:44:35 PM
 


Many GPs in the UK won't be doing vaccinations: they have been told by Health England and the BMA that they either have to give their surgeries totally to administering the vaccine or to usual patient care: that they cannot do both as the Health Service can't spread it's self any thinner.  Several HAs have decided to keep their Surgery time for all patient care.

My surgery is carrying out vaccinations. My 80 year old neighbour was phoned today with an appointment for Wednesday. Not sure how long it will be till it's my turn though.

Taz x  :)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 14, 2020, 07:35:14 PM
That's good news.  Hopefully they will defy Health England and carry on with patient appts. too!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 30, 2020, 04:07:50 PM
Oxford vaccine approved  :). This 1 is cheaper - does it really matter  >:( as well as being less sensitive to temperature = easier to transport.


It's apparently 3 weeks since the 1st jab was given  :o !
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on December 30, 2020, 05:58:51 PM
I think it's the storage that will make the difference, it can easily be distributed to gp surgeries, care homes etc. They're talking about leaving a longer gap before the second jab so more people can get some immunity from having the first one.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 30, 2020, 07:02:44 PM
We are a free country and no vaccination programme is compulsory.  There should be a list to see whether those who don't want the jab are infected and how badly.

I thought that a booster was less potent  :-\ so why would it work as a single dose?

I believe that the 1st vaccine should remain in Hospitals so that the Oxford jab can be taken around the country more easily.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 31, 2020, 09:49:39 AM
Why worry about the small stuff?  There will be records kept if only for research purposes. 

I haven't had the 'flu jab ever: until this year : I've never been told if it will stop me getting 'flu - something that I haven't suffered from for over 30 years.  [see 'flu jabs thread].

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Dierdre on December 31, 2020, 10:43:11 AM
What worries me is neither of these vaccines will work against the 2 new variants. They said last night on the briefing that both variants had been sent for testing against the vaccine and they would know the result in 2 weeks. Last week they were confident the vaccines would work but obviously not sure now.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 31, 2020, 11:35:16 AM
I don't know why the public keep getting this info from people who don't really know?  When I read reports by the Scientific couple responsible for the Pfizer vaccine, they have already tested it as far as possible, ready to alter the recipe [for want of a better word] so that it copes with any variants.  Better to have a jab rather than none at all?

Also, does anyone know how long it takes to kick in and how long 1 may be a carrier even after the vaccine has been administered?

The Press give out what they think the public want to know!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Dierdre on December 31, 2020, 02:33:23 PM
This information was from Boris and his 2 scientific advisors on TV last night, not the press, it was straight from the horses mouth!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on December 31, 2020, 02:51:03 PM
What are you implying about our esteemed leader?? ;D ;D 🐎
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Dierdre on December 31, 2020, 02:58:38 PM
🤔😂😂
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on December 31, 2020, 04:08:56 PM
 :whist:    :rofl:  I wouldn't trust that lot to post a letter  >:(
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on January 01, 2021, 01:44:42 PM
My youngest ds is getting his vaccine today because he works part-time in a senior's residence.  He's not sure which one he's getting, either the Pfizer or Moderna.  We are taking him back to uni today and then later he has to go to the local hospital to get his shot.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 01, 2021, 01:49:14 PM
How exciting!  My sister has to wait until 7th even though she is a key worker in Wales. 

The more that get access to the vaccines the better.  How R U?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on January 01, 2021, 01:50:44 PM
I'm hanging in there. :)  I had a quiet New Year's eve and in bed by 10pm.  We are un-Christmasing the house right now.

How are you?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 01, 2021, 01:57:37 PM
Not going to give boosters now, in order to spread the availability of vaccines across the UK.  Is the amount of vaccine in the boosters the same as the initial jab?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on January 01, 2021, 03:01:45 PM
The second jab can be given up to 12 weeks after the second. The first one gives around 52% protection and the second one boosts it further to around 90% I think.

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 01, 2021, 03:08:46 PM
It has been suggested today in order to counteract the mutation, that everyone should have access to a vaccine so boosters will be used.  I believe from what I briefly saw on the News that the booster stimulates an already alert immune system. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on January 02, 2021, 02:08:45 PM
My ds got his shot (Pfizer version) and is to get the second shot on the 23rd.  I asked him to let me know if he develops any side effects.  He said he is feeling ok so far.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Gnatty on January 03, 2021, 03:34:10 PM
Will the second shot go ahead now? I thought everyone now had to wait twelve weeks.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 03, 2021, 04:13:25 PM
I don't really think in the overall scheme, it will matter too much.  The important issue is to get as many people jabbed as possible .  Too few start to administer the vaccinations though despite people offering their services.

Have you seen the amount of hoops and fireballs that retired medics have to jump through in order to be allowed to help the NHS?  There's a whole list of does and don'ts - one dentist who currently works 4 days a week, with weekends free, has withdrawn his offer to assist due to the list; he is already covered for most eventualities.  By the time he had read and considered the list, he had decided it was going to take too much of his time to justify filling it in.

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on January 04, 2021, 11:31:35 AM
My youngest ds is getting his vaccine today because he works part-time in a senior's residence.  He's not sure which one he's getting, either the Pfizer or Moderna.  We are taking him back to uni today and then later he has to go to the local hospital to get his shot.
.


Are you in the USA? My DIL had the Pfizer. She’s a PA (physicians assistant) and my son got the Moderna. He’s a paramedic. I’m relieved. My son has to sit in the back of ambulances with covid patients. They aren’t provided with the specialist masks medics wear in covid wards.

Meanwhile my mum over here has yet to hear about getting the vaccine. She’s 93. I hear that in the area where I live, over 90s have at least heard they are getting it. Some over 80s too. Maybe to do with less population density.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on January 04, 2021, 12:20:30 PM
My OH had his  1st vaccination yesterday.
Felt a bit groggy this morning, headache, cold, and his arm is sore.
Two painkillers have helped.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on January 04, 2021, 12:50:35 PM
My 80 year old neighbour had hers a couple of weeks ago with no side effects at all. She offered to let me go in her place bless her  :)

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 04, 2021, 01:10:57 PM
With the Pzifer vaccine it's a matter of storage.  The Oxford variety is easier to store, transport and deliver to a wider area, but it has to come from the factory first.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on January 04, 2021, 06:44:15 PM
OH felt rough earlier. Like he was coming down with flu.
He's warmer now, and not at work until tomorrow, so fingers crossed the side effects will have gone by then. Only one other person at his work place had the same effects. Everyone else who had it, had no side effects at all.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 04, 2021, 07:37:14 PM
Was the other person also affected by C-19 earlier in the year?  MayB that's something to be aware of, that those who were ill with the Virus during 2020 may feel 'ill' after the jab?  Another bit of tracking to be reported for research purposes?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on January 05, 2021, 01:26:00 PM
OH was poorly last night.
We didn't know if he'd caught covid again, BEFORE he had the jab on Sunday.
So he got a test at work, which was negative. 🙏🏼 He drive all the way there to get it done by the manager, even though it was his night off.
But, he's suffered a really had headache, and a high temperature of 39:5 at one point.
He sweated buckets throughout the night, then about 5 this morning, the fever broke.
He's rang in, he's not going to work tonight, he's exhausted.
Still has a headache, but at least he's got no fever.
It says on the leaflet, you can have these symptoms after the vaccine, but it states MILD.
What he had last night, didn't seem mild to me. But I suppose everyone is different.
He's had a more sever reaction to it. 🤷‍♀️
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 05, 2021, 02:17:23 PM
I thought about him as I dropped off to sleep at 1.15 p.m., as I think it's probably due 2 him having had C-19 - do contact the person who administered the jab as well as filling in the yellow card, tell his GP etc..  Is he taking pain relief 4 the headache?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on January 05, 2021, 02:27:25 PM
 :thankyou:   Yes he has. He was asked before the injection to report anything.
We know he has antibodies already, he had that test done about 6 weeks ago, so whether it has anything to do with that, we don't know.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 05, 2021, 03:05:12 PM
Because I am nosy - I wonder how long anti-bodies last? 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 08, 2021, 12:55:13 PM
A fraudster claiming to work for the NHS injected a 92-year-old woman with a fake Covid-19 vaccine, City of London Police has said.

Detectives are hunting the man who charged the victim in Surbiton, south-west London, £160.

Police said it was "crucial" he was caught as soon as possible as he "may endanger people's lives".

Det Insp Kevin Ives described it as a "disgusting and totally unacceptable assault".
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: milly on January 08, 2021, 09:40:15 PM
My father, who lives with us and is clinically vulnerable, had a phone call at 6 pm this evening and told to come now for vaccine.
Had it done, waited 15 mins and out., back again in 12 weeks.

I was so emotional watching from car as many elderly people, some with sticks,zimmer frames, holding arms , made their way into the queue at surgery door. It seemed like the blitz spirit somehow
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 08, 2021, 10:06:05 PM
Hopefully his arm won't be too sore.  At least he wasn't living alone so was caught by a scam. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 09, 2021, 02:33:32 PM
A property investment company has offered GP surgeries £5,000 for unused coronavirus vaccine doses.

The Hacking Trust's medical division approached surgeries in Bristol and Worthing offering to pay the money to charity "or the staff member directly".

Robyn Clark, from the Institute of General Practice Management, said it was "just appalling".

The company, based in London, has apologised, saying its "good intentions" were "misinterpreted".

"The NHS is free at the point of access for everyone who needs it," said Ms Clark.

"What we felt this company was trying to do was jump the queue."
      >:(
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 10, 2021, 12:22:31 PM
4 those who have the jab, please remember that it takes 2+ weeks B4 it really activates so keep to the rules: wash hands and wear masks. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Katejo on January 10, 2021, 12:58:25 PM
A fraudster claiming to work for the NHS injected a 92-year-old woman with a fake Covid-19 vaccine, City of London Police has said.

Detectives are hunting the man who charged the victim in Surbiton, south-west London, £160.

Police said it was "crucial" he was caught as soon as possible as he "may endanger people's lives".

Det Insp Kevin Ives described it as a "disgusting and totally unacceptable assault".

Apparently he paid her a further visit and tried to ask for more money.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 10, 2021, 01:01:34 PM
Dreadful!  How many more will people like him target ?   :'(
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: milly on January 10, 2021, 02:53:26 PM
4 those who have the jab, please remember that it takes 2+ weeks B4 it really activates so keep to the rules: wash hands and wear masks.

You get paperwork after having the jab, and are told at appointment to keep social distancing as per gov rules, as we came out of surgery there was a Marshall reiterating the same.. hand, face, space.

Everyone trying their best!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on January 10, 2021, 07:41:57 PM
My 93 year old mum hasn’t heard anything about getting a vaccine yet. I was hoping she would get before my Dad’s funeral later this month.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 10, 2021, 07:45:23 PM
Surgeries are contacting patients depending on the availability.  As more vaccines come on stream more people will be called.  What does it suggest on your Mum's GP website? 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 11, 2021, 01:20:35 PM
They are telling us not to go out unless absolutely necessary - I feel a total 'locked behind front doors' in the offing until most have been vaccinated, to stop further spread of the Virus.  It doesn't kick in for at least 2 weeks after being given and many will remain carriers without being aware.

At least we have a large garden and plenty of housework to tackle.  But those without open spaces  :'(.  There's 2 B a question and answer session later ......... I suspect e-mail etc. will be overwhelmed.



Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on January 11, 2021, 01:50:18 PM
The vaccine roll out here has been criticized by many that it has been too slow.  The elderly and front line workers are the first to get the shot.  It has been estimated that the vaccine should be available to the rest of the population by mid to late September. ::)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 11, 2021, 02:48:29 PM
There's always criticism.  Do you have the Pzier jab over there, which needs specific cooling temperatures to keep it in?  Did your Dad get it yet?

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on January 11, 2021, 03:05:23 PM
There's always criticism.  Do you have the Pzier jab over there, which needs specific cooling temperatures to keep it in?  Did your Dad get it yet?

My ds and a friend have gotten the Pfizer shot. We also have the Moderna vaccine going around.

My dad has not had the shot yet, not sure what he needs to do to get it just yet.  The nursing homes are the first to get it so he may well have to wait longer.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 11, 2021, 04:51:07 PM
There's Hope! 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on January 12, 2021, 07:31:09 AM
Mum, 93, is being vaccinated on Thursday. Just a couple of miles away. She has arranged transport and the lady who has volunteered is bringing a wheelchair. Good forethought as she isn’t capable of standing in a queue even for a short amount of time.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 12, 2021, 09:13:35 AM
That's good news Ju Ju. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: holidaylover on January 12, 2021, 09:59:12 AM
My worry is that when more and more people have been given their second shot, perhaps before Summer, many will feel safe, want to 'get on with their lives' and so will travel for holidays both home and abroad.  I dont think hubby or I will get a chance of the vaccine before late Summer, therefore many of us will still be more vulnerable to catching it from all those who have been vaccinated.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on January 12, 2021, 10:26:40 AM
Ummm... the idea of being vaccinated is so that you don't get it and if you don't have it you can't spread it. You're far more likely to catch it from someone who hasn't been vaccinated, many of whom seem to happy to go outside their local area, crowd together and breathe over everyone else.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 12, 2021, 10:28:16 AM
Can 1 still carry a virus after vaccines?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on January 12, 2021, 10:40:49 AM
It isn't a live vaccine so you can't catch it from being vaccinated. We do know it isn't 100% effective so there's still the possibility to get it and spread it, as well as new varients that it may not protect against.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on January 12, 2021, 10:42:02 AM
Ummm... the idea of being vaccinated is so that you don't get it and if you don't have it you can't spread it. You're far more likely to catch it from someone who hasn't been vaccinated, many of whom seem to happy to go outside their local area, crowd together and breathe over everyone else.

I was listening to someone (no idea who!) on the radio last week who was explaining that although the vaccine should protect us from getting ill ourselves it isn't certain that it will stop those vaccinated from transmitting the infection to others who haven't. I haven't tried to find out more on this - I found it totally depressing so put it into my "don't want to think about this" box  ;D

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on January 12, 2021, 10:53:41 AM
Ummm... the idea of being vaccinated is so that you don't get it and if you don't have it you can't spread it. You're far more likely to catch it from someone who hasn't been vaccinated, many of whom seem to happy to go outside their local area, crowd together and breathe over everyone else.

I was listening to someone (no idea who!) on the radio last week who was explaining that although the vaccine should protect us from getting ill ourselves it isn't certain that it will stop those vaccinated from transmitting the infection to others who haven't. I haven't tried to find out more on this - I found it totally depressing so put it into my "don't want to think about this" box  ;D

Taz x

Too many 'unknown, unknowns' Taz.

Best not to dwell on covid subjects too much.  There is nothing we can do anyway.

Think happy thoughts  ;) , or try.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: holidaylover on January 12, 2021, 12:19:55 PM
As I understand it, once you have the vaccine it should ensure that if you catch Covid you wont suffer (if at all) so badly and therefore wont hopefully need hospital treatment, but, you can still catch it, therefore a chance that you can still spread it and here will lie the problem for people you haven't yet had their vaccine and for the many who refuse to take it for various reasons.   I think a lot of people are presuming that once they get their two doses they are good to go and I personally cant see that happening unless all unvaccinated people stay indoors.  Personally, I am still unsure about taking it.  My worry is what side effects could be, say 10 - 20 years later.  I hope people dont take it then regret it later.  Theres no way of knowing that just now.  Its so confusing and happening so fast but I know it's needed.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 12, 2021, 12:21:26 PM
10-12 years: you may get bumped off by that bus B4 then  ;)

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: milly on January 12, 2021, 01:39:58 PM
When my father had the vaccine the GP told him it would eventually protect him from being seriously ill with it, but would not stop him catching it,or passing it on, hence all the guidelines still to be followed until told otherwise
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 12, 2021, 01:41:57 PM
 :thankyou:
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Uptick on January 12, 2021, 02:14:50 PM
Long term effects of Covid-19 are probably worse than any potential side effects of vaccines. Personal experiences (reactions, re-infection, etc) will pop up once more people get the jabs. Any assumption now is theoretical or based on trials with a limited number of subjects.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: befuddled on January 12, 2021, 10:46:18 PM
I think a lot of people are presuming that once they get their two doses they are good to go and I personally cant see that happening unless all unvaccinated people stay indoors.

My neighbour has had both her doses. I'm sure she would have been told the same as everyone else, but i overheard her today saying that in a couple of weeks she'll be safe and should be allowed to do what she likes.  Yeah, as in "she'll be safe and bugger everyone else".  She's been breaking the lockdown rules right from the start anyway, all 3 kids visiting regularly, often at the same time. But she's spent the last year complaining to anyone who'll listen about young people breaking the rules and putting people like her at risk!  Grrrrr!

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 13, 2021, 09:39:11 AM
We can still catch it and carry it. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: befuddled on January 13, 2021, 10:06:23 AM
Yeah, exactly.  Catch it, carry it, and spread it to others.  That's being said on the news over and over.  I don't know why people don't understand it.   
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on January 13, 2021, 10:22:02 AM
If they can't or won't follow lockdown rules, what chance have we got when these people get vaccinated. Most people only care about themselves unfortunately. That's my take on society anyway.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 13, 2021, 10:41:48 AM
There's another kind of treatment with a nebuliser being tested quite successfully  :-* 8)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: holidaylover on January 13, 2021, 11:31:57 AM
One thing to come out of all of this, is to highlight how self centred people can be.  I know most follow the rules but so many are twisting guidelines to fit with their own agenda.  My neighbour visits people who are in 'her bubble'  Even people out of town are in her bubble!  Amazing! More like a travelling hot air balloon than a bubble!  Befuddled, you're exactly right and its a worry.  The 'I'm all right Jack' brigade will spoil it for others.  I dont know if there's an answer it's just the society we live in.  We're not in a tight enough lockdown.  In Greece you have to apply to the Government to leave your house.  People here think its their God given right to pop down to Greggs for a bacon roll and a coffee.  I sometimes wonder if people dont know how to stick the kettle on.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on January 13, 2021, 11:38:57 AM
If they can't or won't follow lockdown rules, what chance have we got when these people get vaccinated. Most people only care about themselves unfortunately. That's my take on society anyway.

That's really sad.  If I thought that I would be really depressed. 

My take is that most people are basically good.  The bad people stick out like a sore thumb, which is good because you know exactly what they and can avoid.  The ones a find most problematic are those that appear really nice.  I remember my Mum telling me that people who appear so nice are often the opposite.  Her words have been proved right on many occasions.

Anyway, I digress.  Apparently most people are obeying the rules, even people like me who think many of them are just plain daft.(see my post in the Coronavirus thread)

Numbers dropping fast in London and the South East. :)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: befuddled on January 13, 2021, 12:43:05 PM
Only parts of the southeast,  some areas are still rising.  Slowing down though,  so hopefully will start to fall soon. 

I do agree with you that most people are good, it's a minority who misbehave, but not such a tiny minority in my experience.  When i walk on the hilltop, i look down on a car park, and see so many cars turn up, people get out and stand around in groups for half an hour then go home.  Not even pretending that it's for exercise, they're barely 10 yards from their cars.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 13, 2021, 12:51:32 PM
Yep. I don't believe that most are 'sensible' due to the amount of people I see in supermarkets.  We go once every 2 weeks during lockdown, using our village shop which is busy, expected as we are a large area.  But in general ..........
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on January 13, 2021, 02:16:57 PM
The provincial government's modelling of new cases was announced here yesterday. If the public continues as they are and no further restrictions are implemented there could be as many as 20,000 new cases per day by the end of February and the death rate could double from 50 per day to 100. :'( :o  Hence, new restrictions were announced- I posted in the Coronavirus thread.
Most of the spread has come from private parties where no one is masked and there is no bylaw enforcement.  There have been reports of people hosting large private parties being fined only because people have complained about the noises or amount of unfamiliar cars parked on the streets.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: VikkiP on January 13, 2021, 04:32:41 PM
Hi C. C. do you know who Rita Ora is??...........Sorry  ;D but seriously, the same here, people with money, £10000 fine, nothing to them. Same as the rich who can still afford to go on holiday, airports everywhere should be closed, worldwide, obviously except for vital food and medicine and anything else critical to life.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 13, 2021, 04:46:06 PM
Oh don't remind me about Rita Ora !  as well as pro footballers having parties - they should have been sacked instantly and their Pensions taken away! 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: VikkiP on January 13, 2021, 05:07:58 PM
Like my hubby says, they wouldn't have got away with behaviour like that, if Alex Ferguson was in charge lol!!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on January 13, 2021, 05:13:19 PM
No, that's true. Also, if some of us was in charge too.  ;D
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on January 13, 2021, 05:37:14 PM
Hi C. C. do you know who Rita Ora is??...........Sorry  ;D but seriously, the same here, people with money, £10000 fine, nothing to them. Same as the rich who can still afford to go on holiday, airports everywhere should be closed, worldwide, obviously except for vital food and medicine and anything else critical to life.

No, I'm not familiar with Rita Ora. What's her story?  We have had elected officials in both federal and provincial governments that have felt the rules don't apply to them and take off for a vacation in the sun. Once they get caught they are soooo regretful and apologetic (oh pleeze  ::)) and they end up resigning or being fired. The public is not ok with the hypocrisy.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: VikkiP on January 13, 2021, 05:42:40 PM
She is a singer who had a birthday party and got busted, and the UK turned on her! lol! Enemy no 1!!  ;D She has been pretty quiet lately!
Hopefully after this, these people will be remembered and will be ignored, cutting off their oxygen lol!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on January 13, 2021, 05:53:08 PM
...*insert face palm here*  ::)  Celebrities are above the protocols I guess!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 13, 2021, 07:42:11 PM
Oh better than that Vicky, she 'got done' twice !

7th December

Pop star Rita Ora has apologised for a second breach of the UK's Covid-19 restrictions, after failing to self-isolate following a trip to Egypt.

The 30-year-old flew to Egypt for a private performance on 21 November. On her return the following day, she should have isolated for two weeks.

Instead, she threw a birthday party in London, which was itself in violation of lockdown rules.

The star apologised for the party last week, and offered to pay a fine.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 13, 2021, 08:56:35 PM
I think that we would be because the variant travels faster .  Apparently.  Also a different age group are affected this time round.  It wasn't feasible 2 keep the country locked down forever but hindsight is a wonderful gift.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on January 14, 2021, 09:49:07 AM
Yep. Boris needs to enforce must stricter fines and put more police and even the army on the streets to help govern the country. Like other countries did. People seem to be ignorant of the rules, I know everyone is beyond fed up, but look at the death toll yesterday, the worst ever. You'd think people would be too scared to mix and flout the rules, it's not like flu, if you catch this, it's a matter of life and death, none of us know how this will affect us, some not too bad, others it kills, so it's not something to be flippant about!
Ohhh, it really makes me livid. All those poor people who have died before their time, so, so devastating!  :'(
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 14, 2021, 09:53:02 AM
The Army should have been deployed B4 C.mas and again now.

Matt was trying to suggest that this is 'the Peak'.   :-\
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on January 14, 2021, 10:12:37 AM
Forgot to mention, get this one.;

My brothers son in law, tested positive.
He rang his manager to tell him.
The manger said, oh, ok, we'll keep this between ourselves and you can carry on working! 🤬
WTF! .....the son in law, obviously didn't, and is self isolating now.
Makes you wonder how many boss's are doing this doesn't it, especially if they're business is in trouble, trying to keep it going. 🤷‍♀️
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 14, 2021, 10:29:36 AM
I have often wondered about this type of situation.  Report to Matt Hancock?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on January 14, 2021, 10:53:48 AM
Agreed.
My neighbours are a prime example. Still mixing with family, coming and going in my neighbours car.
If you want to report someone, you have to put your name on the form, else it won't send.
It's ridiculous, some people won't do it because of repercussions.
Apparently, in Birmingham, there's 180 reports everyday of people flouting the rules. I wonder how many that would actually be, if you didn't have to put your name down. 🤔
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: befuddled on January 14, 2021, 12:30:21 PM
It's so often that new laws and restrictions are brought in instead of enforcing the ones we already have in place.  Much easier and cheaper to make all the responsible people change their behaviour even more than to make the irresponsible ones do what the obviously won't do, whatever the new rules say.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 14, 2021, 12:33:46 PM
Now pharmacists are going to be offering the vaccines  :o.  They will write to offer a slot locally to patients (how do they get the details  :-\) and if the patient prefers not to travel that's OK.  They can wait for their GP to call them.


Will it be Vets next ?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: carina on January 14, 2021, 11:33:33 PM
I would go anywhere to get my covid vaccination (even the vets lol).
I went with DH yesterday to the local masonic hall to get our jabs.
It was very organised and flowed well.
We are so glad to be one step nearer to safety.
Roll on injection no 2 although the paper work we were given said 10-12 weeks.
Stay safe everyone.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on January 15, 2021, 01:36:30 PM
Wow..10-12 weeks til your second dose?  Which one did you get if you don't mind me asking?  My ds is getting his second dose next week, 22 days after his first. :)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 15, 2021, 02:45:32 PM
If a 2nd dose is required it's the original Pfizer vaccine - but it's better to give everyone an initial jab to spread the programme to protect as many as possible.

Vets would apparently offer services but haven't been asked! 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on January 15, 2021, 06:40:29 PM
Both the vaccines need second doses CLKD.

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 15, 2021, 06:46:47 PM
I don't think it will matter if people don't get the 2nd dose because it gives a good few months of protection.  The booster simply extends that protection but it doesn't mean that we can't catch the Virus and may still be carriers.  Better to spread the vaccines as far across the UK as is possible. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 15, 2021, 06:49:00 PM
A man accused of allegedly tricking a 92-year-old woman out of £160 for a fake coronavirus vaccination has been charged with fraud and common assault.

David Chambers is accused of administering the fake vaccine at her Surbiton home in London last month.

The 33-year-old, also from Surbiton, is charged with five offences including fraud and going outside in a tier four area without a good reason.

He denied the charges when he appeared before magistrates on Friday.

Mr Chambers was remanded in custody until a hearing on 12 February.

In the UK, coronavirus vaccines are free of charge and available via the NHS.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on January 15, 2021, 07:49:13 PM
Form an orderly queue now ladies. Experienced jabber here, good at holding the patient still by pinning it against the wall with my knees while I stick a needle in it's backside. No sheep has complained to the authorities yet  ;D
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 15, 2021, 08:11:19 PM
 ;D ...... I'm on my way, don't care what you jab me with  8)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on January 16, 2021, 10:47:29 AM
If you think you need it   ;D. Just as long you don't take revenge like one did last year - sqirted liquid sh*t down the back of my leg  >:(.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on January 16, 2021, 01:12:50 PM
Ohhhh, that's Jaypo out then! 🤣😂
How about sheep dip? I could do with a swim after my jab. 🏊🏼‍♀️😆
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on January 16, 2021, 01:51:06 PM
Oh yes, we can provide that too. Last used before organophisphates were banned. Might be full of stinking sludge, rotting leaves, worms etc. If you survive that you won't need the covid jab, it won't stand a chance against your immune system  ;D
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Joaniepat on January 16, 2021, 02:08:26 PM
Could be useful, with the hairdressers closed ....
JP x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 16, 2021, 04:15:15 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Penguin99 on January 23, 2021, 04:55:52 PM
My husband had a phone call on Monday for his vaccination,  we missed the call! He hasn't decided whether he wants it yet. I said its totally his decision. I'm very indecisive and at the moment I'm not having it, mind you I'm a way down the list yet. We had a chat the other day, we just don't feel its been properly tested. There was a doctor on telly the other day answering questions and he was asked about the vaccine & pregnant women, he said they are still looking into it 8) sorry but answers like that convince me they haven't done enough with the trials. Just my opinion. I dont blame anyone wanting it, but for us we are very undecided   :-\
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: littleminnie on January 23, 2021, 06:08:48 PM
Nearly 6 million vaccinated so far.  They are going at this at a fair pace!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 23, 2021, 06:18:44 PM
Better to have it than die of C-19?  Not many people have reacted and I suspect the media R reporting this.  Whereas with the annual 'flu jab we don't get to hear about anyone who reacts badly.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Kathleen on January 23, 2021, 06:59:02 PM
Hello ladies.

I  understand that some people are concerned  however all the
trial data has been published and efficacy and safety confirmed.
I will have my jab as soon as possible as I would rather take my chances with the vaccine than the virus!

Take care ladies.

K.

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 25, 2021, 01:25:00 PM
So - some GPs/vaccinators are 'using up' the Pfizer jab at the end of the day on relatives who may be outside the guidelines relative to age.  ?? Better ?? than wasting any? 

What the Press haven't told the public is how many people who were booked in 4 their jabs, did not attend, therefore leaving syringes with what would be wasted.  It can be kept for 5 days after defrosting which is quite a process on it's own taking anything from 20-45 mins.

It annoys me that the public aren't told the whole story   :bang:
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on January 25, 2021, 08:13:13 PM
My friend, who is in his early seventies and still undergoing cancer treatment, was called by his surgery on Friday as someone hadn't turned up for their vaccination and he was on their "reserve" list as long as he could get there within half an hour. He's very grateful. I think each surgery must be going about things in their own way rather than waste a vaccination.

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 25, 2021, 08:25:00 PM
Wish that the Press would back off  :-\  :'( ........ if there were jabs being wasted, they would jump on that as a headline  >:(
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: littleminnie on January 27, 2021, 08:01:15 PM
I think the vaccine is going to be a bit of a postcode lottery.  Know of someone who has got theirs booked in and is 66 and no health conditions.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 27, 2021, 08:03:13 PM
That mayB due to plenty of vaccines in that area and not the dynamic that's been suggested.  If there are plenty of vaccines that have to be reconstituted and not enough of the age groups i.e. 70s/80s then the younger ones will be called in order to avoid wastage.

Some have to be on standby in case others don't turn up.  It will sort itself. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 29, 2021, 05:27:41 PM
Two more on their way  8)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Joaniepat on January 29, 2021, 05:39:43 PM
Got my first one done today  8). I was given the Pfizer at one of the hubs.

I think this hub (Epsom Downs Racecourse) is keeping the local taxi firms going, as there is no public transport there. So if you've no car....

JP x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on January 29, 2021, 05:59:04 PM
Good news Joaniepat.  :)

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 29, 2021, 06:43:42 PM
I saw on the News earlier that Taxi drivers are ferrying the public free to and from the hubs - there is a go-funding page to cover their costs. Great idea for those taxi owners out of work.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Joaniepat on January 30, 2021, 10:39:04 AM
Fine thanks, jaypo. A bit sore at the injection site but that's all. Pleased to have got started but wondering how long I'll have to wait for the next one.

Hope you are OK.

JP x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 30, 2021, 10:42:10 AM
I don't think it will matter too much about the gap between jabs., it's about getting as many as possible covered to lessen the spread.

The carriers are the danger  :o
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on January 30, 2021, 01:12:10 PM
Jaypo did they investigate why you had such a bad reaction to the flu jab? They're advising those with allergies to see their doctor so they choose an appropriate vaccine.
MIL had no side effects at all, her sister had a sore arm for a couple of days.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 30, 2021, 02:27:28 PM
Could it have been egg reaction? 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 30, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
What information were you given prior/after the vaccine?  My friend had the Pzifer jab yesterday and wasn't told to continue keeping way from others, she thought she can go out and about  :-\.  No discussion prior to the vaccine and a leaflet after which she hasn't yet read. 

No wonder people think that they are instantly protected  :-\.  With all the media hype some are finding it difficult to sort truth from fact ........
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CrispyChick on January 30, 2021, 03:51:15 PM
My dad had his this morn and was told by the gp he is still not covered and can still catch covid. A hard message, but probably the right one?!?!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 30, 2021, 03:53:20 PM
Tnx.  That's what I understood.  My friend had no discussion or explanations.  Thought that she is covered straight away.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Joaniepat on January 30, 2021, 05:30:49 PM
Certainly you are not safe until some time after the second jab. Maybe 2 or 3 weeks after? We are still looking at more than 3 months of masks, distancing etc, if we don't get the second jab for another 12 weeks.

JP x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on January 30, 2021, 05:46:32 PM
If you have the vaccine then you are covered from becoming ill from the virus. This cover increases over time. The important thing to know is that it will not stop you catching it and passing it on to others. That's how the vaccine works. So, you catch it but your body works to stop it actually making you ill. You will still be infectious so until many more people in the population are vaccinated we still have to stick to the same rules.

Everyone who has the vaccine should be given a copy of this leaflet https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-what-to-expect-after-vaccination/what-to-expect-after-your-covid-19-vaccination#:~:text=The%20vaccine%20cannot%20give%20you,to%20reduce%20this%20risk.

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 30, 2021, 05:52:54 PM
 :thankyou:
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Kathleen on January 30, 2021, 06:45:13 PM
Hello ladies.

Forgive me if I have mentioned this before but some people cannot have the Pfizer vaccine for medical reasons and are given the Oxford /AstraZenica one instead.
One of our neighbours is in this position as she is in remission with Lymphoma. 

 Jaypo - I understand that patients are asked a seriies of questions beforehand and one of those is 'have you ever had a bad reaction to a vaccine before?'  It's definitely worth mentioning your flu jab experience  and maybe even ask your GP if it has been noted on your records.

Take care ladies.

K.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on January 30, 2021, 07:06:39 PM
Glad to hear your ok after the 1st vaccination Joanipat. .
It’s 12 weeks isn’t it from the 1st to the 2nd.?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on January 30, 2021, 08:38:54 PM
Or longer dependent upon how many doses mayB required ......... Boosters are that, they boost an already activated immune system.

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Joaniepat on January 30, 2021, 08:48:29 PM
Hi jillydoll, yes 12 weeks till the 2nd one is what the government says.
JP x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: littleminnie on January 31, 2021, 08:38:21 AM
8m had their first dose.  Feeling a bit more optimistic now. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: befuddled on January 31, 2021, 09:33:06 PM
more than half a million yesterday, and 600,000 today.  Every day i'm amazed at how quick it's being done, and so many volunteers giving up their time to help keep it going.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: groundhog on January 31, 2021, 10:48:53 PM
Got mine next Saturday, I live in Wales
I’m nervous as many ppl seem to get bad reactions, I hate being ill ( as we all do ) but needs must.  Maybe it’s again a case of only ppl with side effects post, others stay quiet.  I never feel well and csnt bear the thought of something else albeit temporary but then again better than Covid.  A friend of a friend died today, he was 52 🙁 shocking virus. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: littleminnie on February 01, 2021, 09:06:19 AM
I know someone who has had the AZ vaccine and someone who has had the Pziser one.   No side effects.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 01, 2021, 09:38:05 AM
groundhog - what do you read to believe that people have side effects?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on February 01, 2021, 11:02:02 AM
My son and DIL have both the vaccine, the pziser one and the Moderna one. They were fine after the first one, but my DIL was very weary after the 2nd one. My son had a mild fever after the 2nd one. Both better after a couple of days.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: menomope on February 01, 2021, 01:57:48 PM
I had my vaccine a week ago.
I had the Astrazenica one. I am an allergy sufferer. I dont usually ever have any side effects from flu vaccines.
Exactly 12 hours later after the vaccine (so 3 am) I woke up with a fever and shaking all over. My fever lasted 2 and a half days. At its height it was 38.9 C. I didnt feel well with muscle aches too. I  just stayed in bed for three days and then the fever went and I gradually felt fine.
My understanding is that some people do have a fever with the AZ vaccine.  It should be considered a positive response as it means the immune system has received the right 'message' and is now primed to respond. However that does not mean if you dont get a fever that your immune system is not primed.
I cant say I will be excited to get my second dose but some say that the second dose has less side effects with the AZ vaccine. I think it is probably like childbirth and you forget the pain from the first time! I will still get the booster. Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 01, 2021, 03:18:48 PM
Did U report symptoms menomope?  Everything will add to the research as the years go by.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: menomope on February 01, 2021, 03:36:56 PM
Hi CLKD
yes I did - I did the yellow card thing
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 01, 2021, 06:22:42 PM
Well done menomope  :medal:  the more information the more knowledge is gained about this dreadful Virus.

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on February 01, 2021, 07:20:40 PM
Has anyone been contacted by email to have their jab ?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 01, 2021, 07:24:46 PM
Nope.  My Surgery don't have my personal details of mobile or e-mail.   There are several scams around .......

DH has given his mobile number to the surgery and dentist years ago  ::)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on February 01, 2021, 07:38:33 PM
Nope.  My Surgery don't have my personal details of mobile or e-mail.   There are several scams around .......

DH has given his mobile number to the surgery and dentist years ago  ::)

That’s why I ask: I had one today, I’m asthmatic so it kind of makes sense but I have copied and pasted the email address which is [email protected] but I can’t get proper info if this is a legitimate NHS email address

I haven’t clicked on anything
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Joaniepat on February 01, 2021, 08:17:29 PM
Has anyone been contacted by email to have their jab ?
No, I was contacted by text. Would your surgery have your email address? Google "NHS book covid vaccine" and this will take you to the official site.

JP x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on February 01, 2021, 08:26:49 PM
Has anyone been contacted by email to have their jab ?
No, I was contacted by text. Would your surgery have your email address? Google "NHS book covid vaccine" and this will take you to the official site.

JP x

I have tried to google the email address but no website is saying which email address it would be sent from.  I’m sure gp had my email address but to be on the safe side I have forwarded the email to report possible covid scams.   I will try to make contact with my surgery too to clarify things x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 01, 2021, 08:41:16 PM
I would ring the surgery in the morning.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on February 01, 2021, 09:03:03 PM
The scam asks for payment apparently.  https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/how-you-will-be-contacted/

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on February 01, 2021, 09:07:08 PM
The scam asks for payment apparently.  https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/how-you-will-be-contacted/

Taz x

From what I can see it isn’t asking for money but I am suspicious.  I am 54, asthmatic but I don’t think I’d be getting a vaccine this early x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Gnatty on February 01, 2021, 09:19:38 PM
I think you are right to be suspicious. At your age you would only be contacted now if you are on the extremely vulnerable list and you would know this because you would have been informed. Hopefully you will find out more tomorrow.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on February 02, 2021, 11:44:53 AM
Thank you all

I don’t need to ask Surgery as when I forwarded to the fraud email address the email disappeared from my inbox ! At least it’s been reported x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 02, 2021, 02:29:09 PM
It's 'going the rounds'  -  apparently.  Like the virus  >:(

Have a look on the surgery web-site?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on February 02, 2021, 03:52:59 PM
Canada's supply chains of vaccines has been dismal so far. Some blame the Prime Minister for his lack of action.  So now the plan is to build our own vaccine factory to supply vaccines for the country, rather than relying on European supply.  Why didn't he think of this months ago? ::)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 02, 2021, 04:05:35 PM
Because the whole enterprise costs money and there will be the NotInMyBackyardBrigade  ::) plus patents .........
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jaycee on February 02, 2021, 04:36:01 PM
I had my vaccination on Friday, no adverse reactions, but then i read if you do have side effects it proves the vaccine is working, so what if you have no side effects,i again read that it means your immune system isn't good
I have always thought i had a good immune system, as i don't seem to get all the ailments going round,even if in my own family
What your thoughts
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 02, 2021, 04:56:25 PM
MayB because our immune systems are generally in good order, it shows if 1 has a reaction that it needs a  :kick:.  I had no reaction to my 'flu jab last year: the 1st I've ever had: because I had 'flu 30 years ago, twice.  The common cold occasionally since otherwise ....... DH didn't have a cold for 5 years, he had Marmite on toast every morning for breakfast  ::)

I wouldn't worry too much  ;)

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Salad on February 02, 2021, 09:05:49 PM
Got my text to book my COVID vaccine - Hooray  ;D

The only problem is I’ve been told it needs to be at a GP surgery or a hospital and the list only has a hotel, community halls or pharmacies - boo  :(

I’ve been advised to contact my local CCG to see what they suggest, guess I have to be patient.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 03, 2021, 09:47:07 AM
Contact the CCG - your text may be a scam, there's a lot of them around  :-\
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Kathleen on February 03, 2021, 10:21:33 AM
Hello ladies.

Apparently the scam text downloads the details from your phone and introduces malware. I think the genuine messages include a phone number for you to call and confirm your appointment but I could be wrong about that.

I'm not likely to be contacted for a while yet but I will be on my guard nearer the time.

Take care ladies.

K.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 04, 2021, 02:25:03 PM
I had a phone call from an Uncle now aged 91.  Although deaf we have nice chats.  He had a jab one morning about 2 weeks, after being called by his Surgery 2 attend.  At 10.30 p.m. he had a call from the Centre to go for another vaccine .........  :-\.  Which he was given.  He asked whether he could wait until the morning but was told he had to go immediately  :-\.

He has talked to his neighbour, to his 'daily' as he calls her, I don't know if he has contacted his GP Surgery ........ no one can understand ? ! ? As he is in Scotland I don't know which Authority he would be registered under.

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Salad on February 04, 2021, 05:06:32 PM
Contact the CCG - your text may be a scam, there's a lot of them around  :-\
Thank you for the advice-Text was authentic. CCG gave me the contact number for my vaccination hub  :)

All booked in for the AstraZeneca vaccine next week. It’s a GP run hub at a local hotel - so plenty of beds should I have a reaction  ;D
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 04, 2021, 06:08:35 PM
B&B too ........ turn-down service at night ........
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Salad on February 04, 2021, 07:57:01 PM
B&B too ........ turn-down service at night ........

Haha, sounds perfect.
I’m really looking forward to the trip out  :D
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 07, 2021, 01:16:40 PM
A friend had the astra-zenica jab last week and suffered a really painful stiff arm down the hand; followed by intense, nauseating headache and was so stiff she couldn't get out of bed!  Side effects lasted 3 days ........ and she's due to return in mid-April for the 2nd jab.  :-\
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on February 07, 2021, 07:28:36 PM
They say the side effects last around three days in those it affects. It's obviously better than getting seriously ill from the virus but still difficult to deal with if you've got work to do and/or family to care for.

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: groundhog on February 07, 2021, 07:56:58 PM
I had mine yesterday ( AV one) and absolutely no side effects , not a thing 🤔 not sure if that’s good or bad lol x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on February 07, 2021, 08:08:16 PM
Not everyone gets them Grounghog.
So well done.
It’ll still do the same job. 👏🏼
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 07, 2021, 09:20:28 PM
 He had a jab one morning about 2 weeks, after being called by his Surgery 2 attend.  At 10.30 p.m. he had a call from the Centre to go for another vaccine .........
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: groundhog on February 07, 2021, 09:22:01 PM
Not everyone gets them Grounghog.
So well done.
It’ll still do the same job. 👏🏼

Hope so, thank you.  My 5 yr old granddaughter came to the outside of our house today to show me she can ride her bike ! She was so proud as was I, It was freezing I wanted to cwtch her and tell them all to come in for hot choc but not allowed.  Damned virus 🦠🥊
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 07, 2021, 09:24:18 PM
Well done that Girl.  I remember learning, OK whilst Dad was holding the seat behind me, until I realised that he wasn't  ;D

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 12, 2021, 05:59:03 PM
DH had his letter to go for his jab - when he tried to lock on to make the appt., has been told that he isn't eligible.  Go figure  >:(.  MayB that's where Boris gets his numbers from: those letters sent out however, do not = jabs given!

DH will try again on Monday, hopefully by then my letter will be here.  It would be silly to drive miles++, twice!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Salad on February 12, 2021, 11:42:09 PM
If no luck online, call 119 and they can book him in  :)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on February 13, 2021, 12:50:11 AM
I've got mine tomorrow. Didn't realise it would be quite yet.

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 13, 2021, 09:43:04 AM
Tnx.  My letter arrived this morning  :o  :-\
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on February 13, 2021, 01:36:00 PM
My letter arrived this morning but I'd already been contacted by my surgery so I'd already made the appointment. Here the GP ones are being done in a hotel 8 miles away but the general letter ones are apparently at a racecourse 20 miles away.

The organisation was amazing. All the volunteers so cheery too as they greet you in the freezing cold.

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on February 13, 2021, 02:42:07 PM
Got my letter this morning. Booked both doses. Have to travel 15 miles.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Kathleen on February 13, 2021, 07:54:06 PM
Hello ladies.

I must say I am very impressed with the way the NHS has organised the vaccination role out.  Public service  at it's best and no interference from private companies or groups with a different agenda.

My husband is 65 in May and he has an appointment for next Sunday. I will be 65 in September and I expect I won't be far behind. It's such a relief to have some good news as it gives us all hope for a better future.

Wishing you all well ladies.

K.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 13, 2021, 08:37:48 PM
We have a 18 mile round trip for our jabs, 1 next week and again in May.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on February 15, 2021, 07:51:51 PM
Had mine today. It was chaotic. Apparently you had to wait an hour outside before getting inside for another  wait. Appointment times had gone out the window. So many people. I’ve been shielding and have been struggling with asthma, so I went to the end of the queue where I was able to talk to a lady on duty. I told her I would have to cancel as there was no way I could cope with standing around so long in the cold. She got excited and went off for a wheelchair and took me to the front of the queue and I got my vaccine on time. Apparently the computer had crashed in the morning. I feel really upset. I’ve been shielding since March, and only 3 of us attended my Dad’s funeral in March. I feel I’ve been put at risk along with others. I was told it was quick, with little waiting, on time.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on February 16, 2021, 12:10:20 AM
I'm so sorry you had a chaotic experience JuJu. Mine was totally different. Met by cheery stewards as you entered the site and directed to a car parking bay allocated to my time slot. Asked to wait in your car (if no car in a waiting room socially distanced inside) where I filled in the form and then I was collected when it was my turn. Inside the venue it was all very smooth. My time was 11.30-11.40 and I was vaccinated at 11.41. Did you drive to the centre? Ours was very insistent that nobody was allowed to hang around outside. The inside wait was all socially distanced. I hadn't realised that you were shielding - I must have missed something on here. So sorry!

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on February 16, 2021, 08:32:59 AM
My gosh Ju Ju, that was bad.

My husband had his last Thursday.  Went to Headcorn Aerodrome, which is 17 miles away.  All went like clockwork.  Received his jab bang on time and didn't even have to get out of the car.  Felf sorry for the staff there though as it was bitterly cold and the doctors were dressed in ski suits.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on February 16, 2021, 09:27:32 AM
It was appalling. But I was treated very well by staff. But I feel compromised after taking such care to shield. And all my family have kept away. My husband is being so careful, not going into shops etc. I’m not even allowed to answer the door! The only outing I have had is going to my dad’s funeral and that was only for 3 of us because of me. Everyone else watched it streamed or recorded.

I was not considered clinically vulnerable by the government based on the meds I take when well. I was advised to shield by the doctors because of my medical history. Twice in the last 5 years hospitalised following minor respiratory infections, requiring oxygen etc. I’m taking the maximum amount of my inhalers at the moment as the doctor doesn’t want to give me oral steroids as they compromise your immune system. But asthma gives you no priority with this government. Too expensive. Too many people have asthma, even in my case life threatening. I now feel worried I’ve been exposed to covid. Just to get a vaccine. I feel I should have turned round, gone home, cancelled and rebooked elsewhere. I had to travel half an hour and the other alternatives weren’t nearer. I will relax if I’m ok in a few days. If I’m not they they will insist that I had covid before having the vaccine, I bet. Sorry for the rant.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on February 16, 2021, 10:28:09 AM
You rant away.

I think a lot depends on local supply and organisation.  My husband is 65 but with no health issues and is on no medication.  He had a call from our surgery, only two days before, to ask if he wanted the appointment.  He had the Pfizer vac so we are assuming they need to use up supplies.

When is our second dose appointment?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on February 16, 2021, 10:50:00 AM
May the 3rd. I will ask for advice from the doctor about going elsewhere for that. I have to speak to her as doubling up my inhalers has only contained the asthma, not really improved things after a week. Just had a shower and am puffed out.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Kathleen on February 16, 2021, 10:51:10 AM
Hello JuJu.

I am so sorry that you've had this worrying experience. I can't remember how old you are but if over 65 I assume your appointment would be because of your age but if you are under 65 you would have been invited due to clinical vulnerability. At least I think that is what's happening at the moment, please correct me if I'm wrong.

My husband has his jab on Saturday but he isn't 65 until May. Initially we thought this was because our local NHS are moving through the population very quickly but now I wonder if he is considered clinically vulnerable. He has been treated for Atrial Fibrillation which is a heart condition that is increasingly common as we age and his last trip to A&E was about two years ago and he wasn't advised to shield.

I believe there is a lot of confusion about which medical conditions qualify patients for a vaccine at this stage of the programme.  In my own case I assumed I would be offered an appointment fairly soon after my husband as I am only four months younger than him (I will be 65 in September) but if clinical need is the main criteria I won't qualify until about April. There are very many people in the vulnerable group and it will take longer to get through them all so perhaps you can take comfort from the fact that you have had your jab and will begin building immunity from COVID within two weeks.

Wishing you well and take care.

K.

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on February 16, 2021, 12:28:02 PM
Yes, I’m 66, almost 67. Yes, I got my vaccine because of age, not clinical need.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Kathleen on February 16, 2021, 12:51:02 PM
Hello again JuJu.

Thanks for your response.

I hope you recover well from your vaccine and please keep us updated.

Take care.

K.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 16, 2021, 03:46:16 PM
I have seen News Reels of people queuing for hours in the cold with no where to rest.   >:( One lady with very swollen legs using a stick was hanging onto the metal railings pulling herself up a hill.  Everyone is being treated the same without health needs being taken into consideration.  This is what happens when these types of service are taken out of the GPs care.

Our Surgery doesn't have the correct conditions for the Pfizer jab so patients have been sent to the health centre, in another town 8 miles in the other direction.  Can't understand why we weren't sent there but we have to travel on Friday 2 a Pharmacy in yet another town.  Not a problem unless it's pouring with rain as there is no shelter between the car park and the shop.  I am already deciding what I will need to wear  ::)

We booked our 2nd jab at the same Pharmacy so if you have booked Ju Ju, you may like to cancel that 2nd jab and review where?  I doubt if you will have picked up the virus on this occasion.

What I feel should have been done was to test everyone on arrival at each centre: captive audience, many of who won't see a GP for years : so that the demographic of asymptomatic people as well as which mutation and where it's spreading etc., can be monitored.  Then go for the jab.. So many won't have any idea if we are carriers which is where the danger lies! 

How is the injection site Ju Ju?

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on February 16, 2021, 06:59:43 PM
Slightly sore. I’m headachy, but might be due to poor sleep and asthma. Phoned for a phone consultation with a GP and was told the earliest was March 1st! I replied how do I cope until then if I’m struggling to breathe? Got to ring early tomorrow for an emergency appointment. Normally they are hot on breathing issues.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 16, 2021, 10:14:38 PM
Let us know how you get on! They may have a Nurse Practitioner who could give advice?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 17, 2021, 09:35:05 AM
Also: some people will need to travel into towns via public transport so won't be able to stick closely to their allotted times.  Therefore queues will form.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on February 17, 2021, 12:18:40 PM
I'm pleased I went with the GP invite and not the NHS letter as the two venues are very different but I think that it is wonderful what has been achieved so far. There are bound to be some problems but the sheer scale of the task in rolling out the vaccine is incredible.

Taz x   :)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 17, 2021, 02:01:07 PM
Our GP has had no input in our appts at all .  The nearest centre is 10 mins. away ..... but apparently we don't qualify for there.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: daska86 on February 17, 2021, 09:30:55 PM
We had a call from our Drs today and our jab is on Saturday at the local leisure centre, free parking and marshalls to direct you. We have to arrive 10 minutes before our appointment time. Reviews have been good from others who have been there. If we'd booked via the NHS letter we would have had to go to a pharmacy in the next town We are both 65
.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on February 18, 2021, 01:05:13 AM
We had a call from our Drs today and our jab is on Saturday at the local leisure centre, free parking and marshalls to direct you. We have to arrive 10 minutes before our appointment time. Reviews have been good from others who have been there. If we'd booked via the NHS letter we would have had to go to a pharmacy in the next town We are both 65
.

That's the same as us. We had a letter asking us to book at the vaccination centre in the next town or it gave us the option to wait for our surgery to contact us which was in a much closer venue. We chose the surgery option as we'd already had a text from them inviting us to book.

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 18, 2021, 05:25:01 PM
Do details automatically go to the GP Surgery? 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 18, 2021, 06:09:22 PM
Did anyone have a rapid flow test prior to being jabbed, at the same place?

Surely that they are missing a trick by not testing prior to the vaccine?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 20, 2021, 09:23:13 AM
Done.  Sore jab area when laying in bed.  Woke at 4.00 with a headache so took 'nurofen' with bottled water.  Background ache now.  DH had 'flu-type symptoms in the bath and woke several times in the night then thought 'it's the jab' and went back to sleep.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Tinkerbell on February 20, 2021, 11:19:39 PM
I have mine next week, not looking forward to it as everyone who i know who has had AZ has been pretty ill afterwards.....i know, i know, i could be worse with Covid! Mine is because of clinical need, congenital heart disease.

On the plus side teen son said to not worry as he will do dishwasher and run vacuum round if i feel ill.....not sure i believe him ;D
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ellen May on February 21, 2021, 01:17:48 AM
I have mine next week, not looking forward to it as everyone who i know who has had AZ has been pretty ill afterwards.....i know, i know, i could be worse with Covid! Mine is because of clinical need, congenital heart disease.

On the plus side teen son said to not worry as he will do dishwasher and run vacuum round if i feel ill.....not sure i believe him ;D


My husband had AZ one last week and was fine. He had a slightly sore arm for a day or so but that was all. He is clinically vulnerable due to arthritis and medication.

I know of 2 people who were slightly ill afterwards but only for 24 hours and then fine again. Good luck with yours.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: littleminnie on February 21, 2021, 09:10:37 AM
I know of quite a few people who have had the AZ one.  Only one had mild symptoms, headache and aches but only for 24 hours.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 21, 2021, 09:53:19 AM
I'm tired.  My arm aches if I lay on the vac site.  DH felt fluey for 1.5 days.  I took 'nurofen' for what may have been AstraZenica-related head ache or simply due to not taking enough exercise. 

My cousin reacted with 'flu symptoms for 2 days/nights.  Can't remember which jab she had.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: dahliagirl on February 21, 2021, 11:29:43 AM
I have a friend who is convinced that it is to all do with hydration - make sure you are drinking plenty before and after - worth a go 🤷‍♀️

Also, paracetamol before you get the headache. (That has a good chance of working because you don't know if you would have had a headache or not, but it does work in situations where you know you will get a headache)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 21, 2021, 11:37:29 AM
Certainly I was extremely thirsty for most of Friday evening/through the night/yesterday.  I never wake for a drink in the night but did early hours Sat. morning. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: dahliagirl on February 21, 2021, 11:45:12 AM
The headache a friend had sounded very like the sort I used to get between pill packets, in my late 40s, which is why I gave the idea some credence.

It won't do any harm (unless you are going to drink huge amounts  ::) ) and it is worth a go if it reduces the worry a bit.

I will do it when I get it - I haven't had mine yet as I am not yet 60 so I will be after the ones with health conditions.  My husband had Pfizer, but I think we just get what our GP group get given - it varies.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Kathleen on February 22, 2021, 02:03:25 PM
Hello ladies.

I haven't come across any advice for treating post vaccination headaches but one of the scientists I follow is advising people not to take pain relief for a fever. He says the immune system raises the body's temperature to fight the virus so lowering it with paracetamol for example would not be helpful. Obviously no one wants to have such a high temperature that they have a seizure but if we can tolerate the uncomfortable symptoms caused by our own immune response we may do better in the long run.

Hopefully this is of some help ladies.

Take care everyone.

K.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 22, 2021, 02:55:30 PM
My GP advises Paracetamol for a fever - once the temp is raised it is important to lower it ASAP otherwise brain damage might occur if the body overheats.  One doesn't want to feel worse than those symptoms that side effects might cause.

Certainly the info that we were given in the printed information leaflet, or that was discussed at the time of vaccination and seen on TV was to take Paracetamol.

Which scientists might that be and why contrary advice? 

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on February 22, 2021, 05:01:57 PM
Hello ladies.

I haven't come across any advice for treating post vaccination headaches but one of the scientists I follow is advising people not to take pain relief for a fever. He says the immune system raises the body's temperature to fight the virus so lowering it with paracetamol for example would not be helpful. Obviously no one wants to have such a high temperature that they have a seizure but if we can tolerate the uncomfortable symptoms caused by our own immune response we may do better in the long run.

Hopefully this is of some help ladies.

Take care everyone.


K.

Yes, this is what I understand.  Fever is only a problems if it gets out of had.  It's just the body doing what it's supposed to.  Shows a healthy immune response.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 22, 2021, 06:14:25 PM
 :bang: :bang: :bang:  So William visits a King's Lynn vaccine centre in an ill-fitting mask - what happened to stay at home etc.?  The rest of us are trying our hardest  :'(.  Boris, out and about.  What happened to stay at home .......... none are 'essential'.  The rest of us are shielding, isolating, staying at home, giving up visiting relatives etc.  :cuss:
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: lizzog on February 23, 2021, 01:38:28 PM
Had my Pfizer vaccine Saturday afternoon and felt headachey. The headache has gone but I still feel so tired and lethargic. Not sure if that’s normal?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 23, 2021, 01:50:49 PM
Yep.  The body has been asked to form protection which uses energy.  My arm aches when I lay on it.  The itchiness has gone thankfully.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: lizzog on February 23, 2021, 02:06:22 PM
Interesting how some people get zero side effects and others feel rubbish
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 23, 2021, 03:22:07 PM
Bit like C-19 itself?  Mum slept through her symptoms. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: dahliagirl on February 23, 2021, 03:59:36 PM
My husband had the sore arm thing.

Sometimes it is hard to work out if it is the virus making your tired and ill, or the response to it - like when I get hayfever.  Still best to rest and let your body deal with it, paracetamol or not.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: lizzog on February 23, 2021, 07:04:49 PM
Yes that’s true - many people are asymptomatic  :-\
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 23, 2021, 07:08:15 PM
They are the ones to avoid ;-) but we don't have a red ribbon warning others  ::)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Katejo on February 24, 2021, 06:36:07 PM
Interesting how some people get zero side effects and others feel rubbish
  I have never had any symptoms with flu jabs but have this time from AstraZeneca. Just muscle/joint aches last night and I am sleepy now (though that may just be because I slept badly last night).
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on February 25, 2021, 03:25:22 PM
Starting mid-March, anyone in the province aged 80 or over will be contacted to make an appointment to get the first shot, assuming there will be enough to go around.  Each month a different age group will be given the shot so I guess my turn will be around June or July.

My SIL (she's an endoscopy nurse) received her second shot a week ago and she got very ill from it. Same with my youngest ds. He tolerated the first jab ok but he felt ill with the second one.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 25, 2021, 04:19:20 PM
I've heard that too, worse with the 2nd one.  Though my sister was OK.  Must be something to do with the immune system already being activated and doing into over-drive when it perceives the threat?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: ElkWarning on February 25, 2021, 06:21:41 PM
Starting mid-March, anyone in the province aged 80 or over will be contacted to make an appointment to get the first shot, assuming there will be enough to go around.  Each month a different age group will be given the shot so I guess my turn will be around June or July.

My SIL (she's an endoscopy nurse) received her second shot a week ago and she got very ill from it. Same with my youngest ds. He tolerated the first jab ok but he felt ill with the second one.

Was this the Pfizer?  I don't know, someone said to me that Oxford / AZ was horrible with the first, ok with the second, and Pfizer was the other way round, i.e. ok with the first, but horrible with the second.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on February 25, 2021, 06:45:26 PM
Starting mid-March, anyone in the province aged 80 or over will be contacted to make an appointment to get the first shot, assuming there will be enough to go around.  Each month a different age group will be given the shot so I guess my turn will be around June or July.

My SIL (she's an endoscopy nurse) received her second shot a week ago and she got very ill from it. Same with my youngest ds. He tolerated the first jab ok but he felt ill with the second one.

Was this the Pfizer?  I don't know, someone said to me that Oxford / AZ was horrible with the first, ok with the second, and Pfizer was the other way round, i.e. ok with the first, but horrible with the second.
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My son had the Pfizer but I'm not certain which one my sil had.  I'll have to keep an eye on my father and his reactions when the time comes.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: littleminnie on February 26, 2021, 12:39:26 PM
I can’t believe how fast the vaccine programme is being ruled out in the UK.  I’m glad we’ve done something right. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Tinkerbell on February 26, 2021, 08:16:16 PM
I got mine today, in group 6 , it was Pfizer. My teen daughter is in group 6 too and have been told hers will be Pfizer as she is under 18.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: dahliagirl on February 27, 2021, 12:27:50 AM
I've got mine next week - group 8 - they are really ploughing through.

Our area was at the bottom of the list in January and now we are near the top.  It is amazing how fast they can go with the wind in their sails.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Kathleen on February 27, 2021, 01:46:12 PM
Hello ladies.

I am 64, not in the medically vulnerable group and I have just received a letter telling me that I can arrange an appointment at a large vaccination centre. My GP Surgery have also told me that I can be treated locally in about two weeks time. I think I may wait to see if a local appointment comes through in the next week or so and if not I will go to a large centre. Friends who have been seen locally have been told that their next jab will be in four to twelve weeks but those going to a large centre were given a follow up appointment when they received their first dose.

The whole system seems to be going very well and is really impressive.

Take care ladies.

K.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on February 27, 2021, 10:35:28 PM
My partner is 63 and had his a week ago. My friend of 67, in a different area, is still waiting for hers though. Seems very variable county to county.

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 28, 2021, 05:03:31 PM
Apparently countries in Europe: Germany and France in particular : initially complained that they haven't received 'enough' vaccines.  However, Macron decided that over 65 are not covered by AstraZeneca so uptake has been slow.  Neither leader has offered to take either vaccine available.  So 1,000s of doses look to be wasted.  The UK has apparently had a 29% take up, Germany 2%.  Go figure.

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on February 28, 2021, 05:04:03 PM
Had mine today, AZ.  Very swift.

No side effects so far.  :)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Katejo on February 28, 2021, 05:18:41 PM
Had mine today, AZ.  Very swift.

No side effects so far.  :)
  I had mine around midday but the side effects didn't start until late evening.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on February 28, 2021, 05:22:02 PM
Ooh no.

Fingers crossed. 🙄
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on February 28, 2021, 05:59:13 PM
We were OK from 11.30 a.m. until early evening.  DH had fluey symptoms for 24 hours.  In the early hours I woke extremely thirsty with a headache so took 'nurofen' and went back to sleep.  I was thirsty for 36 hours.  Nothing that was awful.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 01, 2021, 11:32:32 AM
Health officials are trying to trace one person in England who has been infected with a concerning variant of coronavirus first found in Brazil.

They are one of six cases of the P1 variant found in the UK in February.

The person is understood to have used a home testing kit but did not complete a registration form - prompting an appeal for anyone without a result from a test on 12 or 13 February to come forward.

. .............. I think we will require masks until at least August.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on March 01, 2021, 01:35:23 PM
Every time we think we think we're going to escape something else happens  >:(. I think this one was predictable though. Everyone else can close their borders but not us so it was only a matter of time before it got here. I think this was from before hotel isolation came in but at £1700 people are going to re-route to avoid it.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 01, 2021, 02:59:15 PM
Yep. it was prior to hotel quarantine.  However people are flying in from Paris to Scotland and into England  >:(
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on March 01, 2021, 06:33:36 PM
Had my 1st vaccination last Tuesday, all ok. 🥳
Had to question if I’d actually had it,  ;D didn’t feel a thing. 🤷🏼‍♀️
I had the Pfizer one.
No side effects at all.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: ElkWarning on March 01, 2021, 06:55:12 PM
Ooh no.

Fingers crossed. 🙄

How are you feeling now?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on March 04, 2021, 03:09:03 PM
I registered my Dad for his vaccines yesterday.  The portal opened only for those residents that are 80+ years old. His first shot is on the 20th and the second is April 10th,  I cannot tell you how relieved he is.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CrispyChick on March 06, 2021, 03:50:01 PM
Had my vaccine on Wed. I thought I'd escaped with just a sore arm, but today I'm feeling a bit off and headachy... On day 4??? Anyone else found the side affects to be less immediate???
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Dierdre on March 06, 2021, 03:54:27 PM
Mines been cancelled until next week, supply problem. :-\
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 06, 2021, 04:02:32 PM
Bugga ..............  ::) 1 gets all worked up, then !
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: littleminnie on March 06, 2021, 07:39:24 PM
The positive cases and deaths are going down pretty quick.  :)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 06, 2021, 08:42:29 PM
Crispy Chick - often we don't get the bug until it's been in our system for 3-4 days.  May well B the same for vaccinations?  Get plenty of rest, fluids and pain relief of choice: if that's wine, so be it  ;)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on March 07, 2021, 02:15:35 PM
There is talk here that educational workers like teachers, Educational assistants, school office staff etc, will be in the next phase of vaccinations.  I work in a school so maybe...hoping...that child care educators will be included in that group.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 07, 2021, 02:57:05 PM
I feel that they should have been 1st in line, regardless of age.  If Boris wants our kids back in School ?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Dierdre on March 07, 2021, 09:50:55 PM
Think we should have been at least next in line, i get mine next week because I'm in the 60-64 group anyway but school staff should be next. Actually schools have never closed throughout all lockdowns and this lockdown nurseries have been open as well as taking key workers and vunerable children. We've had over 90 children in school. We've been taking covid tests at home twice week to make sure we're not transmitting to others but it would have been nice to have been offered the vaccine before all the children and staff are back full time tomorrow.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Gnatty on March 08, 2021, 03:33:40 PM
I know the NHS website from Saturday was allowing 56 year olds and over to book online. I thought I would give it a try this morning - I am only 54 - and it let me book my jabs! So anyone out there my age, give it a go!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on March 08, 2021, 05:26:55 PM
You're fortunate! I'm the same age but here I won't be able to register until summer.  :o
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on March 09, 2021, 09:57:57 AM
I know the NHS website from Saturday was allowing 56 year olds and over to book online. I thought I would give it a try this morning - I am only 54 - and it let me book my jabs! So anyone out there my age, give it a go!
I’m 54 and just tried and it’s saying I’m not registered at my Gp!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 09, 2021, 10:27:08 AM
Did U get a letter Annie?  Ring your Surgery? 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on March 09, 2021, 11:12:48 AM
Did U get a letter Annie?  Ring your Surgery?

No I didn’t get a letter, I was going by Gnattys post

I will wait until my turn, I guess I’m next

I really have been stupid over my asthma though.  And I feel I’ve been lucky.  Initially I was put on a combination of meds to try to control my asthma (it’s allergy induced and my allergies are ridiculous ) I took myself off of them for a few reasons and went onto normal blue/brown inhalers.  I need to buy private prescriptions because I need inhalers here, there everywhere as I’ll never know when an allergy will strike.   The original meds I was given would’ve put me in the shielding category throughout these lockdowns and would’ve got me my jab earlier

My fault but I’m nearly there now
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 09, 2021, 11:54:58 AM
How have you been though?  Have the blue/brown inhalers helped symptoms?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 09, 2021, 12:27:23 PM
last week:  Dolly Parton reworks Jolene for Covid vaccination

Country star Dolly Parton marked her vaccination against the coronavirus with a special rendition of one of her best-known songs.
Parton sang a reworked version of Jolene before she received her jab at a hospital in Nashville, Tennessee.

“Vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, I’m begging of you, please don’t hesitate. Vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, because once you’re dead, then that’s a bit too late,” the 75-year-old sang.

Parton was given a vaccine developed by Moderna, whose trials she helped to fund.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: groundhog on March 10, 2021, 12:38:08 AM
I had my vaccine a few weeks ago and was fine, so side effects.  What I didn’t have was any info about a follow up vaccine and so I posted on a local support group asking for their experiences because we had been asked not to ring surgery.  I had lots of very helpful comments but one negative one along the lines of how ungrateful I was for daring to ask about my second when most hadn’t had their first, ( I only had the first because I’ve got 2 stoma bags and an open wound after a botched hysterectomy). Anyway I ignored the troll but noticed a female had agreed with him and commented as such - I felt upset and then I realised she worked in my local surgery, she’s very vocal all over social media and seems to be the voice of the surgery.   The same GP surgery that totally failed my mother when she died, the GP refused to attend to administer palliative drugs, she died a horrible death . I complained and accepted their apology.  Then this happened , I was very upset and anxious.  I even tried to reach out to her snd say I was absolutely not ungrateful I was just asking a reasonable question - she blocked me.
Woild you be upset ? Or am I overreacting.  As she has blocked me I can no longer get the surgery’s important updates on their social media page because she writes most of them.
Last thing I need 😕 this will play on my mind 🙁
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on March 10, 2021, 07:53:14 AM
I had my vaccine a few weeks ago and was fine, so side effects.  What I didn’t have was any info about a follow up vaccine and so I posted on a local support group asking for their experiences because we had been asked not to ring surgery.  I had lots of very helpful comments but one negative one along the lines of how ungrateful I was for daring to ask about my second when most hadn’t had their first, ( I only had the first because I’ve got 2 stoma bags and an open wound after a botched hysterectomy). Anyway I ignored the troll but noticed a female had agreed with him and commented as such - I felt upset and then I realised she worked in my local surgery, she’s very vocal all over social media and seems to be the voice of the surgery.   The same GP surgery that totally failed my mother when she died, the GP refused to attend to administer palliative drugs, she died a horrible death . I complained and accepted their apology.  Then this happened , I was very upset and anxious.  I even tried to reach out to her snd say I was absolutely not ungrateful I was just asking a reasonable question - she blocked me.
Woild you be upset ? Or am I overreacting.  As she has blocked me I can no longer get the surgery’s important updates on their social media page because she writes most of them.
Last thing I need 😕 this will play on my mind 🙁

Write to your surgery Practice Manager.  If No joy I would look for another surgery.  This is totally unacceptable behaviour from health professionals.

We are very lucky with our surgery and doctors, to the point we are reluctant to move away from their catchment area. Everyone should receive care and respect from NHS services.  You are definitely not getting this.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on March 10, 2021, 08:05:51 AM
I thought that the card you're given when you have the vaccination has the second one shown on it? That's what's happened on mine and all of the people I know who've had it?

I agree the person's behaviour is unacceptable. My doctor's don't have a social media page.

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: littleminnie on March 10, 2021, 08:36:12 AM
If you have your vaccine via your surgery you have to wait to be contacted about the date for your 2nd.    If you go via the nhs website you can book your 2nd one at the same time as your 1st.
That’s how it works where we live. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: star35 on March 10, 2021, 10:16:56 AM
Same here.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Lalb1 on March 10, 2021, 10:48:02 AM
I had my 1st vaccine on the 26th Feb, I'm currently shielding.
I had side effects 8 hours after I'd had it, luckily I'd booked it for a Friday afternoon so the side effects happened over the weekend.
I had gone to bed that evening feeling fine but woke up at 12 30 am with the shakes and shivers, had a fuzzy head and felt hyper 1 minute then rough the next.
Got up the next morning feeling really drained, achy over my entire body, pretty much like I'd been hit by a truck. No appetite, nausea, dizziness, bad head ache's and shivers.
Was like that for 2 days, also had the weirdest feeling in the arm that I'd had the injection in. It felt like it was super heavy and I couldn't lift it above chest height, it felt alien to my body for just under a week.
The week after the jab I felt super tired all the time.

I booked my jab online and booked the 2nd one at the same time. I had to travel to Sheffield for mine.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 10, 2021, 02:18:56 PM
Some places are going to contact patients for the 2nd jab; we booked both of ours through a Pharmacy.  I think that some places may not B giving the 2nd ones ........... so the venue may be elsewhere, hence the need to contact patients.

As for social media - some people like to be seen to be ......... a quiet word groundhog with the Practice Manager, drawing attention to the posts, I assume these are not on the Surgery Facebook pages?  unless of course, she is the manager.  Don't rise to the bate!  Everyone is entitled when they are called.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: milly on March 10, 2021, 04:39:53 PM
We have recently changed surgeries, after being with the same one for 30 years, a fairly simple exercise, no questions asked by old surgery, or new one as to why we wished to change. All went through within 2 weeks, I was worried it would delay my  vaccine, but didn’t at all

We have had our vaccinations at the new surgery, but not a second date given as yet, or written on the little card.

If not happy Groundhog,just change, we have moved to a surgery within the old ones radius.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Katejo on March 10, 2021, 04:50:15 PM
We have recently changed surgeries, after being with the same one for 30 years, a fairly simple exercise, no questions asked by old surgery, or new one as to why we wished to change. All went through within 2 weeks, I was worried it would delay my  vaccine, but didn’t at all

We have had our vaccinations at the new surgery, but not a second date given as yet, or written on the little card.

If not happy Groundhog,just change, we have moved to a surgery within the old ones radius.
  I'd like to change mine but the others in my catchment area (strict rules here) have a poor reputation too. The decent ones are too far away.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 10, 2021, 06:39:38 PM
Often surgeries are run by the same Partners, we have a small satellite surgery 4 miles from the main one. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on March 11, 2021, 07:16:19 AM
I had my vaccine a few weeks ago and was fine, so side effects.  What I didn’t have was any info about a follow up vaccine and so I posted on a local support group asking for their experiences because we had been asked not to ring surgery.  I had lots of very helpful comments but one negative one along the lines of how ungrateful I was for daring to ask about my second when most hadn’t had their first, ( I only had the first because I’ve got 2 stoma bags and an open wound after a botched hysterectomy). Anyway I ignored the troll but noticed a female had agreed with him and commented as such - I felt upset and then I realised she worked in my local surgery, she’s very vocal all over social media and seems to be the voice of the surgery.   The same GP surgery that totally failed my mother when she died, the GP refused to attend to administer palliative drugs, she died a horrible death . I complained and accepted their apology.  Then this happened , I was very upset and anxious.  I even tried to reach out to her snd say I was absolutely not ungrateful I was just asking a reasonable question - she blocked me.
Woild you be upset ? Or am I overreacting.  As she has blocked me I can no longer get the surgery’s important updates on their social media page because she writes most of them.
Last thing I need 😕 this will play on my mind 🙁

I’d be fuming.  I think when you accept a job like that you should keep your opinions to yourself

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on March 11, 2021, 07:24:24 AM
How have you been though?  Have the blue/brown inhalers helped symptoms?

My asthma is awful.  I can’t go anywhere without my inhaler.  I took the dog out yesterday across the field and had an asthma attack, stupidly didn’t pop my inhaler in my pocket. 

Incidentally, I tried my husbands info in the appt app last night and it’s saying he’s not registered either at the surgery !

I was due my breast screening sept last year, and they said they were cancelling due to covid , my SIL lives In the same town but at another surgery 1/2 mile from mine.  We both got letters on Dec saying we should come tact the breast screening sept.  She got her appt for jan in a nearby town,  I got told they were still cancelled and when back screening I will have to travel further afield. I asked why my SIL can get hers and nearby and they replied different surgeries / different rules! Seems my surgery is behind the times going by the covid appt app too.  The town just down the road is now jabbing over 50s, so ahead of the game
Postcode lottery and mine seems to be a rubbish postcode lol
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 11, 2021, 09:40:07 AM
I think that you can self refer for breast screening, mayB put your details into the NHS Screening bit ?  Don't let them use C-19 as an excuse, tell them that Matt has told you that the NHS is open for business ;-).  Apparently our Surgery now won't do ear wax removal, we have to pay!!! on your bike .........

Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on March 11, 2021, 10:50:03 AM
Annie, you can enter you NHS number, on the website.  Does that block you too??
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on March 11, 2021, 04:51:17 PM
Just been called by my surgery.

They have a Covid Team, and the call was to check if I had managed to book/had my 1st vac, and my 2nd was booked.

Yes and yes. 😊👍

Now that's efficient.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 11, 2021, 05:21:40 PM
Annie - how R U this afternoon?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: littleminnie on March 12, 2021, 08:35:31 AM
Joe Biden says all adults will be vaccinated by 1 May!   Might have to be Florida for a holiday this Autumn.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on March 12, 2021, 09:04:20 AM
It'll be interesting to see how many take up the offer. There are an awful lot of anti-vacc zealots there.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 12, 2021, 09:26:07 AM
As with those 'at the top' in Germany and France !  They are way behind the UK in giving out essential life saving medication!! would you want to visit there if they hate our vaccines as much as they seem to do.  ? jealous ? ........ of course, France has never forgiven us for Agincourt  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on March 12, 2021, 10:04:03 AM
Joe Biden says all adults will be vaccinated by 1 May!   Might have to be Florida for a holiday this Autumn.

I think Americans have to pay for their vac.  That may have changed though.

If it is still the case a lot of poor Americans will struggle to pay, especially for a whole family.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on March 12, 2021, 11:06:27 AM
Annie, you can enter you NHS number, on the website.  Does that block you too??

I tried my nhs number and that worked but told me I’m not eligible yet.  I’m 55 this year .  I did have in mind @end March for mine but our next town (which is a lot bigger) is  going through the 50 year olds now
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on March 12, 2021, 11:08:43 AM
Annie - how R U this afternoon?

I’m having allergy symptoms each morning so asthma is worse, I guess it’s a spring pollen thing ?

I contacted the breast screening dept again yesterday (think they’re fed up seeing my name now lol) I have an appt and April
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on March 12, 2021, 11:10:12 AM
Annie, you can enter you NHS number, on the website.  Does that block you too??

I tried my nhs number and that worked but told me I’m not eligible yet.  I’m 55 this year .  I did have in mind @end March for mine but our next town (which is a lot bigger) is  going through the 50 year olds now

The place where I had my booked appointment is also doing 'drop ins'.  It might be worth going to see if it's the same in your area. 

Could be worth a try.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on March 12, 2021, 11:11:57 AM
Annie, you can enter you NHS number, on the website.  Does that block you too??

I tried my nhs number and that worked but told me I’m not eligible yet.  I’m 55 this year .  I did have in mind @end March for mine but our next town (which is a lot bigger) is  going through the 50 year olds now

The place where I had my booked appointment is also doing 'drop ins'.  It might be worth going to see if it's the same in your area. 

Could be worth a try.

I’m on a local town Facebook  page and there’s a couple of places doing the booked jabs but no ones mentioned a drop in
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on March 12, 2021, 11:26:09 AM
Worth a try Annie.

I had no idea until I turned up.  The queue was split between those with an appointment and those without.  All got seen and it was very quick.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 12, 2021, 11:33:26 AM
There haven't been any drop ins local to us.  It's all about being called.  However, in towns the homeless and factory workers are being asked to attend as and when, so that everyone gets covered.  It also depends on how much vaccines areas have available. 

It is thought that much of the C-19 positive tests have been through factory workers travelling on the same transport, either in coaches or in cars, to and from lodgings.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 13, 2021, 06:53:58 PM
Last year I wrote : A lack of funding may be the initial cause of research, however, once it gets to the end result, B4 approval, there's then a rush to sell it to the highest bidder.  Until the Licence runs out when it comes to the market cheaper as more companies rush to produce it to the widest buyer.  Then NICE gets involved  ::)

It shows how quickly, when necessary, the World can get together to produce something that will work.  It will be refined as the years go by and as more vaccines come on stream.  There will be some that have side effects, which will hit the news, but that's the same with many medications anyway.  I hope that the opportunity to lodge any reactions will be more available . I've never been offered the yellow card for anything.


All medications are trialled sufficiently, usually we are not aware of any of them: but because C-19 is so new, it's in our faces all the while.  Also, the annual 'flu vaccine gives 67% coverage.  Does anyone worry in particular?

Better to have the jab rather than die of a germ?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on March 17, 2021, 07:50:52 AM
Hubby and I both received a text to book,  we’re going this Saturday
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Sparrow on March 17, 2021, 08:44:12 AM
Hubby and I both received a text to book,  we’re going this Saturday

Great news. 😊
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 17, 2021, 08:56:27 AM
How R U feeling Annie?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on March 19, 2021, 08:40:26 AM
How R U feeling Annie?
It’s tomorrow we go
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 19, 2021, 09:06:50 AM
Boris is about to get his - we are in Good Company then ...........  ;)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Dierdre on March 19, 2021, 05:06:50 PM
Just had mine, finally. Cancelled last week with all the news reports, was too anxious but felt better today. Just sitting in the car for 15 mins before driving home, hope im ok.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on March 19, 2021, 05:13:56 PM
I had mine today too. Only a sore arm so far. Forgot to get paracetamol so I hope I don't get other symptoms.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 19, 2021, 05:42:18 PM
It is better than catching C-19!

sheila - you've probably got something you can grab from the sheep ?  ;)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Tinkerbell on March 19, 2021, 06:10:41 PM
My teen daughter had hers today, Pfizer one as she is under 18.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on March 19, 2021, 07:49:17 PM
I have ibuprofen which I hope will do the same job. Muscle pain now  :(
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 19, 2021, 08:30:21 PM
Get it down you and drink plenty.  Wrap up warm, early night.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on March 19, 2021, 09:16:48 PM
That sounds like a good idea. I can cope while I'm awake but I doubt I'll sleep unless I take it.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 20, 2021, 09:45:08 AM
Did U sleep sheila?  Hows jaypo this morning?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on March 20, 2021, 09:52:22 AM
Not too bad thanks, woke at 2am boiling hot but asleep again by 3. Muscle pain has gone now, just left with a headache and feeling washed out. Jaypo seems to be fine (on another thread).
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 20, 2021, 10:09:52 AM
Keep your fluid intake up and take pain relief today. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on March 20, 2021, 09:01:19 PM
We both had AstraZenica this morning.   I had to sit in the waiting room for 15 mins because of my allergies.  But all good

I’m a headache-y person anyway but I’ve got one just starting now.  We took paracetamol before the jab then 4hrs later as someone recommended that
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 20, 2021, 09:23:50 PM
15 mins. wait is the usual.  We were told not to drive for 15-20 mins after, so we wandered round the local town, window shopping  ::)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Lynda07 on March 21, 2021, 10:15:20 AM
I had mine yesterday, AZ - felt ok all day, just a bit tired. Slept reasonably well and woke up/got up with plans for the day (dog walking) but after being up a short time I felt pretty rough - achy and exhausted. So I will be taking it very easy (unheard of for me, like many of us I suspect) - reading, resting on the sofa and drinking lots of water.
As an aside issue, I suffer so badly from health anxiety and have had a terrible week worrying about the appointment so am actually quite proud of myself for just getting on and having it.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 21, 2021, 12:48:45 PM
It's the lead up that is the worst for me: going on holiday, dentist, visiting family   >:(

Give yourself a  :medal:  Lynda and keep up the rest.  It is after all Sunday  ;)

Any news on how Boris felt?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Dierdre on March 21, 2021, 01:30:13 PM
I had mine yesterday, AZ - felt ok all day, just a bit tired. Slept reasonably well and woke up/got up with plans for the day (dog walking) but after being up a short time I felt pretty rough - achy and exhausted. So I will be taking it very easy (unheard of for me, like many of us I suspect) - reading, resting on the sofa and drinking lots of water.
As an aside issue, I suffer so badly from health anxiety and have had a terrible week worrying about the appointment so am actually quite proud of myself for just getting on and having it.

I did the same, had mine Friday after cancelling the week before with all the scare mongering news. Started feeling ill Saturday, achy and temperature, then was fine this morning so stripped the beds and did washing, im back on the sofa now feeling exhausted! Another duvet day for me too.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Lynda07 on March 21, 2021, 02:04:48 PM
Thank you CLKD.

I wondered how Boris was too.

Dierdre, lets hope we are both soon feeling better. x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on March 21, 2021, 02:16:38 PM
Had mine on Friday, muscle pain, headache, fatigue. Felt OK this morning  :). Just mucked a shed out - by hand - not feeling quite so good now  :(
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 21, 2021, 02:17:37 PM
 :-\.   How else would you muck out a shed - don't you have a shovel :-)  ;)

Cheaper than the Gym membership  ;) - all lambs outside now sheila?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on March 21, 2021, 03:19:47 PM
 ;D
I meant with a wheelbarrow rather than a tractor (I get the old sheds, OH gets the modern ones that can done with a tractor. He says he's being nice as it saves me going to the gym...  >:().
All lambs are out on the day but the smaller ones still come in at night. I'm not keen on staying up til 3am just to feed a fox.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 21, 2021, 04:24:52 PM
A little lead pellet in the left ear usually works on foxes  ;)

Any news on how Boris might have been  ;D
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on March 22, 2021, 04:05:10 PM
My Dad got his first shot on Saturday, he was very well taken care of by the staff at the vaccination centre. They thoroughly screened him and made sure he was comfortable.  He got the Pfizer one btw.  Just before you check out and get the date for the second shot, they have a photo op where you can sit under a sign that says "I got my Covid 19 vaccine!" lol He was pretty happy to do that too.
His next one isn't until July. It seems the province wants to have all age groups get their first shot before giving out the second round. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 22, 2021, 05:20:58 PM
Was he OK after C.C.?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on March 22, 2021, 06:01:05 PM
Yeah, he spent the rest of the day with us so we could keep an eye on him. I called him yesterday and he said his arm was a bit sore, but otherwise, he's good. :)
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 22, 2021, 06:33:00 PM
That's good.  Surprises me how different reactions have been!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on March 23, 2021, 10:13:38 AM
15 mins. wait is the usual.  We were told not to drive for 15-20 mins after, so we wandered round the local town, window shopping  ::)

Really?
Everyone was having the jab then immediately being shown the door.  I was the only one waiting with a sticker to say what time I could leave, a helper was with me and hubby could stay with me


I’ve been fine, hubby has had all the side effects
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 23, 2021, 11:39:42 AM
Is DH improving?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Taz2 on March 23, 2021, 06:44:09 PM
15 mins. wait is the usual.  We were told not to drive for 15-20 mins after, so we wandered round the local town, window shopping  ::)

Really?
Everyone was having the jab then immediately being shown the door.  I was the only one waiting with a sticker to say what time I could leave, a helper was with me and hubby could stay with me


I’ve been fine, hubby has had all the side effects

When I had mine we all had to wait as well and the time we could leave (15 minutes) was written on a white board on the wall behind us. My partner was allowed to leave straight away when he had his and was told that Astra Zenica hadn't been shown to give an allergic reaction whereas, Pfizer which I was given, had.

Taz x
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on March 23, 2021, 08:41:46 PM
Tnx Taz.  We weren't kept behind with the AZ but told not to drive for 15 mins.. 
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: sheila99 on March 23, 2021, 08:44:42 PM
I had the AZ too. Anyone walking could leave straight away, anyone driving to told not to drive for 15mins.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Annie0710 on March 23, 2021, 09:04:23 PM
Goes to show how different they all operate

Everyone was driving because it’s a rural location and everyone left straight after
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CrispyChick on April 01, 2021, 07:17:19 PM
I got mine at a drive-thru facility.

They just asked you to park up and wait in your car at the designated section for 15 mins after. Someone medical was around if you felt ill.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: littleminnie on May 18, 2021, 07:42:58 AM
Know someone who has been offered the vaccine. They are 28, no health conditions
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on May 18, 2021, 08:35:57 AM
That's good! 

C.C. - how's your Dad?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on May 18, 2021, 09:53:54 AM
After the AZ vaccine I had to wait for 15 minutes as I had a severe reaction to kiwi fruit! Many years ago! The vaccine hasn’t come near a kiwi fruit,but they weren’t taking any chances. We had a good laugh though. Other than that people could could go as long as they didn’t drive for 15 minutes. There would not have been enough room to safely space people where I went….a fire station!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on May 18, 2021, 11:36:11 AM
OOOOH Ju Ju - the Mind boggles  ;D
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: littleminnie on May 18, 2021, 12:12:03 PM
After the AZ vaccine I had to wait for 15 minutes as I had a severe reaction to kiwi fruit! Many years ago! The vaccine hasn’t come near a kiwi fruit,but they weren’t taking any chances. We had a good laugh though. Other than that people could could go as long as they didn’t drive for 15 minutes. There would not have been enough room to safely space people where I went….a fire station!

A fire station!   I’d have stayed longer 🙂
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on May 18, 2021, 12:16:29 PM
 ;D. join the queue  :rofl:
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on May 18, 2021, 12:47:46 PM
Sadly, no gorgeous fire fighters in sight! ;D
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on May 18, 2021, 01:07:10 PM
Bugga ........... I keep saying that we would get better care at the Vets'  :lol:
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Kathleen on May 18, 2021, 01:34:50 PM
Hello ladies.

Back in the say I went to a party at a fire station and slid down the fireman's pole (that's not a euphemism btw).

The firemen had redirected all their calls to another station so they could be off duty but the arrangement didn't work and they received a 999 call when the party was in full swing. Watching a fire engine depart at speed choc full of fairly drunk young fireman was a site I won't forget!

Take care ladies.

K.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: C.C. on May 18, 2021, 02:46:50 PM
Here, vaccine eligibility has opened bookings for 18 years old and up. Some hot spots are now vaccinating 12+, all thanks to an influx of Pfizer and AZ.

Still in lockdown for another 2 weeks.  :bang: Some good news, the govt is considering opening outdoor game facilities like tennis courts and golf courses- which are the most socially distanced games outside! *facepalm*
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on May 18, 2021, 02:50:02 PM
Our Government is phaffing - probably quite rightly because they get so much info from so many different places ?
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on May 18, 2021, 06:19:22 PM
Hello ladies.

Back in the say I went to a party at a fire station and slid down the fireman's pole (that's not a euphemism btw).

The firemen had redirected all their calls to another station so they could be off duty but the arrangement didn't work and they received a 999 call when the party was in full swing. Watching a fire engine depart at speed choc full of fairly drunk young fireman was a site I won't forget!

Take care ladies.

K.


And did the firemen get a good view of you sliding down?  ;D
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on May 18, 2021, 09:14:17 PM
Now we've found the level  :lol:
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Kathleen on May 19, 2021, 08:58:22 AM
Hello ladies

JuJu - I went prepared and was wearing trousers lol!

Take care.

K.
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: jillydoll on May 19, 2021, 05:41:30 PM
Kathleen? I’m soooooo jealous!  :rofl:
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: Ju Ju on May 19, 2021, 07:09:53 PM
 ;D My son was a retained firefighter when he was young. He was called Nipper. Family still call him that. Nearing 40 now! No pole in his fire station sadly! They say pole dancing is good for the figure!
Title: Re: C-19 vaccines
Post by: CLKD on May 22, 2021, 01:23:48 PM
'they' can say what they like, it's too much like exercise for me  ;D.  We were OK after our 2nd AZ jabs  8)