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Title: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on August 04, 2014, 03:11:18 AM
After a lovely day with my daughter and grandson, I had gone into the kitchen to prepare the evening meal, when I was seized by intense pain in the right side of my chest. I struggled to breathe, was sweaty and nauseous, filled with disbelief this was happening. I went into the next room, where fortunately my husband was and was able to tell him I was in distress. He got me a bucket and asked if he should ring 111 for advice. I said 999. The ambulance arrived within 10 minutes, by which time the intensity of the pain was easing.  They did all the normal checks, blood pressure, temperature, ECG etc. Everything was fine, but despite there being no evidence of heart problems, they felt I should be checked over at the hospital and would probably be kept in for a few hours to have blood tests. By the time I got to the hospital, the pain had gone and I was beginning to feel I had made a fuss about nothing. I have been reassured all along the way that we were right to call for an ambulance. They repeated all the tests, plus a chest X-ray, but not blood tests. After 2 hours, they were satisfied they could send me home. In the absence of pain, there was no explanation for what had happened, but I was told to return if I had any re-occurrence of pain.

After all this, I was exhausted, but where was my husband? I had no phone or money with me. I was able to ring home, but all I got was the answer phone. I have no idea of my husbands mobile phone number or any other number of family or friends. They are all on fast dial. Makes you think doesn't it? I hoped he was in the waiting room, where I had to go. I felt abandoned, angry that he hadn't followed on. (I had told him to eat first, particularly as it was obvious that I was not about to die.) Plenty of time had passed and I didn't know what do, then started worrying he had been in an accident. Eventually, a nurse came to tell me he had rang in and was on his way.

I had been starting to think he didn't care, in my stress, but it turned out he had taken the paramedics at their word that I would be kept in till the early hours of the morning. So he'd eaten, packed a bag for me ( that's another story about what he thought I'd need!  :o) talked to the children, including my son, a paramedic in the USA.

Now he wants me to write a list of medication, along with a list of what I would need for a night away. He found he was at a loss. Now after the event, I realise I should have had my phone and some money. Though at the time these were the last things on my mind and I assumed he would follow on much sooner.

I slept well for a few hours, but now am sleepless. Feeling rather traumatised.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Scampi on August 04, 2014, 07:40:32 AM
First of all, you are NOT a fraud - the emergency services would rather see 20 people like you than miss the one person who really is having a heart attack (or some other medical emergency).  If you ever get this pain again, do not hesitate to dial 999.

Your husband is right to think about making lists, especially of medication and any long-term medical conditions, and emergency contact numbers - he should make one too.  Keep them in the fridge in empty tablet pots labelled ICE (In Case of Emergency) - ambulance staff can find them easily if needed, and you (and hubby) know where they are to grab in an emergency.  And if a list of what you would need in a overnight bag makes him feel more prepared, why not?  As you've found, it can be hard to think straight in the heat of the moment.

Rest for a day or so and let yourself recover - you have been through a very scary and traumatic experience, and it will take a little while for your body to recover.  You may even feel weepy - if so, have a good cry - it's a good release of all the stress.

Take care x
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Joyce on August 04, 2014, 07:41:40 AM
Goodness Ju Ju scary stuff. Wonder if it could have been a muscle spasm. I've had a similar sort of pain a couple of times, though mine was in my back. I wasn't nauseous though, pulse was good & strong. Anyway, when I had mine I went to my GP who said it had been a muscle spasm. So painful! Like you everything was fine.

My hubby would be useless at packing the necessary too, often thought I should have an emergency bag packed just in case.

One time I ended up in hospital for something else, I had no money or phone. Staff let me use ward phone to phone home.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: honeybun on August 04, 2014, 07:52:36 AM
Not a fraud at all.

Could it have been indigestion. A lot of people are caught like that even my hubby who has actually had a heart attack.

I hope you managed to get some sleep. Rest up today you have had a shock..


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Limpy on August 04, 2014, 09:57:36 AM
Ju Ju you are not a fraud - the ambulance people thought you should be checked over.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on August 04, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
Thank you for your replies. I really thought something awful was happening. The pain seemed unbearable. Had I waited and it eased, I would not have sought help, but would then be worrying that something was wrong with my heart. Although there is no explanation as to why I was in such pain, I am reassured that my heart is ok. Yes, the suggestion is that it was muscular, but unless it happens again, we will never know.

Well 2 visits to the hospital this year seems a bit over the top. I'd never been in an ambulance before this year, except when I was in labour with my son 30 years ago and that was only because I couldn't fit on the Honda 50, the only form of transport we had at the time! I hope to steer clear of hospitals for a good long time now. Had enough of drama!
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Joyce on August 04, 2014, 10:59:36 AM
I really sympathise Ju Ju. Mine was excruciating, but it passed within about 15 minutes each time. I still have a soreish bit on my back where pain was centred. If I do too much it plays up a bit.

However, best these things are checked out. Not sure who got biggest fright with mine, me or hubby. Though have to say my GP wasn't terribly sympathetic.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on August 04, 2014, 11:46:10 AM
Yes, I gave everyone a fright. Not mentioning the episode to my elderly parents though, as they seem to have developed worrying to an art form these days.

Cubagirl, have you seen a chiropractor, osteopath or a body stress release practitioner? They should be able to sort out the sensitive area.

Scampi, I do feel weepy, but the tears won't come. I should have been looking after my little grandson today, but alternate arrangements have been made, so I'm having a lazy day.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Joyce on August 04, 2014, 12:37:10 PM
Yes, went to osteopath. He's done wonders for it, compared to what it was. Just go for occasional back massage now to keep on top of it.

You've obviously had quite a fright, so be kind to yourself.   :hug:
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on August 04, 2014, 12:43:45 PM
Well done on calling the Paramedics, that is what they there for!  Any sudden un-known spasm/pain/health worry should be reported and they are qualified enough to decide if the patient requires further treatment. 

When my late M in L was due to stay for a while, I insisted that she sent me a copy of her medication/doseages before she came - we exchanged weekly letters - so that I could have the list by the phone in case she had a 'funny turn'.  My husband has no idea what I take even though he watches me swallowing my meds.  ::). 

Mum has ICE on her back-door but as she lives alone it's unlikely to be of use.  I don't think she has the capsule up to date either  ::).  It's probably got Dad's details in side.

Your body has had a shock so you will probably feel tired this week.  Feet up!   :foryou:
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Kathleen on August 04, 2014, 12:50:41 PM
Hello Ju Ju and sorry to hear that you've experienced such a scary episode. You make a good point about having an overnight bag and other emergency information to hand. That is the sort of planning we should all do, just in case of accidents etc.

Wishing you well now that it's all over.

Take care.

K.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on August 04, 2014, 03:53:00 PM
I will certainly write lists as my husband intends to.

Just had a 'debrief' with my husband. He said he found it uncomfortable going into my undies draw....he, the man with the somewhat dirty mind! He grabbed a pair of support pants that I sometimes wore before I lost weight, thinking they were a bra! Bless!
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Joyce on August 04, 2014, 05:20:39 PM
My hubby's like that too. He had to go buy me big pants once, not something he enjoyed.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on August 04, 2014, 05:32:04 PM
When I was in Hospital DH did the washing but I had prepared a couple of piles of what I thought I might require  ::) ……… he buys my undies so he wasn't bothered when he had to rummage  ;)
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on August 04, 2014, 05:37:53 PM
He wouldn't be seen in a lingerie department! Once requested pants as part of a present and the job was delegated to my daughter! And he tells stories of how tough some situations were when he was in the police, yet is defeated by my knicker draw!  ;D and changing nappies....well....... How many policemen does it take to change a baby's nappy? You have to love 'em!
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on August 04, 2014, 05:39:42 PM
1 to begin changing the nappy and 3 to turn up in a Panda saying he's wanted on Duty?  ;)

DH has bought panties for b/d and C.mas for me for eversomany years  :-* - it did take a few years to encourage proper panties and not those that only stayed on for a short while  ;)
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on August 04, 2014, 05:53:31 PM
Thanks ladies! I think my sense or humour is definitely reinstated!  ;D
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on August 04, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
Hopefully by the morning you will feel more like 'yourself'  ;)

Feet up?
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on August 04, 2014, 06:22:35 PM
Hopefully, back to normal. Voluntary work in the morning and singing lesson in the afternoon. Early night tonight as I didn't sleep well last night.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: rosebud57 on August 04, 2014, 06:23:16 PM
It could have been gall stones on the move.  Did they do a scan??
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on August 04, 2014, 06:44:31 PM
No, BP, temp., ECG and chest X-ray, plus my medical history and close family history, which showed I am at low risk for heart problems. As the doctor said, it was not prudent to do any more tests as the pain may not re-occur. I was told not to hesitate to go back if the pain re-occurs. If it was gall stones, then we wii have to wait and see. I'm not going to worry about something that may not happen again. The whole episode feels rather surreal now as if it happened to someone else.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on August 04, 2014, 06:45:56 PM
I remember feeling like that after my appendix was removed: was it really me in that bed ………

It's a long while since I did any singing  :-\
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: mazzy on August 04, 2014, 07:26:21 PM
Glad that you are ok Ju Ju.  Don't feel a fraud, its better to be reassured that everything is ok.
Have a few days rest.  :foryou:
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on August 04, 2014, 07:31:01 PM
Maybe it's the minds way of protecting you from trauma. My stay in hospital at the beginning of the year is a blur. Or like childbirth. If I had remembered everything about my daughters birth, I doubt my son would have been conceived!

Thanks Mazzy. I haven't been out and about today. I'm hoping the neighbours didn't notice the ambulance. I don't want to have to explain. Fortunately, our drive is very private.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on August 04, 2014, 09:07:47 PM
If anyone asks, tell them you had a funny turn and that the Paramedics were really prompt and reassuring.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Joyce on August 04, 2014, 09:23:20 PM
My hubby was in police too Ju Ju. Though have to say when I've been really ill, he's been brilliant.  He gets annoyed when I won't go to doctors. Thinks there's something seriously wrong with me when there's not. And I wonder why he won't go to GP.  ;)
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: cheekygal on August 04, 2014, 11:19:32 PM
Maybe this is a possibility......

Costochondritis is a painful condition of the chest wall. It is caused by inflammation in the joints between the cartilages that join the ribs to the breastbone (sternum). Although painful, it is not a serious condition. Usually it has no obvious cause and settles over time. Painkillers and anti-inflammatory medication can be used for relief of symptoms.

A friend of mine had 2 episodes where she thought she was having a heart attack, after several tests, this is what she was diagnosed with.

Hope you're feeling better  :)

Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on August 05, 2014, 07:46:05 AM
No trouble sending my hubbie to the doctors, but beware if your appointment is behind his. Hopefully they touch on why he's there, then get talking about mutual interests!

He's brilliant with me, very patient. We travelled round the world for 6 months, camping a lot of the time. He was so very supportive as the time was punctuated with my health issues. Mind you, I had to look after him too. He fell off the air mattress the first night of camping and hurt his back, so I had to do everything for quite a while! Still wondering how you can fall off an air mattress, but there you go!

Cheekygal, I'll make a note of that condition, just in case. Hopefully it won't happen again, but if it does, I hope I won't be so scared. At least, I know my heart is in good shape!
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on August 05, 2014, 12:23:27 PM
There is a muscular condition that affects young men from age 18-ish to mid-30s.  Like a heart attack.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on August 05, 2014, 12:25:54 PM
That rules me out then!  ;D
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on August 05, 2014, 12:47:36 PM
Phew  ;D
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on September 09, 2014, 06:31:26 AM
I had a reoccurance of the pain last night. It was as intense and overwhelming as before. I didn't panic, but tried to make myself heard. My husband eventually heard me and came up, with my daughter. ( We are on holiday.) The pain eventually eased as before. The pain was slightly lower than before, below my right breast, rather than behind. We didn't call for help, we knew it was highly unlikely to be heart related. My daughter suggested gall stones. Had I not had this pain before, I would be blaming the meal I had had earlier. Fish and chips, which I haven't had for years as I was wheat intolerant, but can now cope with small amounts of wheat every so often. But I was and am feeling uncomfortable, wishing if had kept to my normal diet. Last time, I hadn't eaten for several hours before and had been eating 'me' friendly foods.

My husband is ringing the surgery today for an appointment when we get back. I don't think I will be doing much today. Now is feel I putting a damper on the holiday. We are staying in a lovely self catering house in the snowdonia area with our daughter, her partner and our grandson for a week.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on September 09, 2014, 04:23:46 PM
You will feel better if you rest today.  If the weather is nice, you can sit and watch the scenery  ;) there's plenty to do in that area for the family.  Harlech is nice for a wander.  Make sure you keep hydrated and keep off fatty foods ....... in case it is the gall bladder!
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on September 09, 2014, 07:43:07 PM
Well done Dr CLKD! Had the pain again this afternoon, while we were driving home. Hubbie had to stop on the side of the dual carriage. Decided to go to Bangor A&E. Saw a very nice doctor, after a long wait, who said he thought it was gall stones. I'm to see my own doctor on Monday to arrange a scan and came back here with strong pain killers. Not the best way to spend my holiday, but we have already decided to come back soon. It is a wonderful place and I can't fault the house we are staying in. 
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: honeybun on September 09, 2014, 07:47:49 PM
Please research getting your gall bladder out. My sister did and wishes she hadn't. Hubby decided against and now takes Milk Thistle and watches his diet.

It has its plus points and also a shed full of negatives that your surgeon won't tell you about unless specifically asked.

Don't want to go into it any further unless you want me to.


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on September 09, 2014, 08:09:58 PM
Oh what a shame to have to cut short your holiday  :-\ would you return to the cottage?
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on September 09, 2014, 08:33:29 PM
We're going home on Friday, but not doing everything planned. We look after our grandson on Thursday for the day as daughter and partner are going to a wedding. I won't be left fully in charge, just in case.

HB, you might as well let me know as it is best I have information before making any decisions. Hopefully, if it is gall stones, I can alter my diet. I don't generally eat greasy heavy foods, but yesterday, I did. I was in the difficult situation, where it was eat what was on offer or not at all. Maybe fish and chips was a huge shock to my system. I didn't feel too good anyway after the meal, even though I left a lot. Interestingly, I have heard that it is quite common to develop gall stones after losing weight, which I have.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: honeybun on September 09, 2014, 09:13:27 PM
This is a bit long winded but you will get the idea.
It's very very common after having your gall bladder removed. My sister had the op and suffers from this and its very difficult to manage as what she can eat one week she can't the next. My hubby has lots of little stones. He asked his consultant about dumping syndrome and was told it would probably happen. He left that question to the end of the consultation to see if it would be mentioned....it wasn't.
Hubby ended up in hospital just like you thinking it was another heart attack. He now watches his diet and takes a daily high strength Milk Thistle tablet. There is really only one worth taking. Jarrows is really the best. I get hubbies from Canada.

Here is the info....better you know.

Gastric dumping syndrome, or rapid gastric emptying is a condition where ingested foods bypass the stomach too rapidly and enter the small intestine largely undigested. It happens when the small intestine expands too quickly due to the presence of hyperosmolar (having increased osmolarity) contents from the stomach. This causes symptoms due to the fluid shift into the gut lumen with plasma volume contraction and acute intestinal distention.[1] "Early" dumping begins concurrently within 15 to 30 minutes from ingestion of a meal.[1] Symptoms of early dumping include nausea, vomiting, bloating, cramping, diarrhea, dizziness, and fatigue. "Late" dumping happens one to three hours after eating. Symptoms of late dumping include weakness, sweating, and dizziness. Many people have both types. The syndrome is most often associated with gastric bypass (Roux-en-Y) surgery.

Rapid loading of the small intestine with hypertonic stomach contents can lead to rapid entry of water into the intestinal lumen. Osmotic diarrhea, distension of the small bowel (leading to crampy abdominal pain), and hypovolemia can result.

In addition, people with this syndrome often suffer from low blood sugar, or hypoglycemia, because the rapid "dumping" of food triggers the pancreas to release excessive amounts of insulin into the bloodstream. This type of hypoglycemia is referred to as "alimentary hypoglycemia."

Honeyb
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Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on September 09, 2014, 09:32:24 PM
Thanks HB. I shall read up some more. I already have IBS, which has not been so severe overall since starting HRT, if I take Fybogel. I think I have had my fill of digestive problems. If it is gall stones, then I really hope going down the diet route will help. I will do the research and talk to people I know who have had similar problems, including my father who had his gall bladder removed at the age of 84 but felt better than he had done for many years. Then again, my daughters friend has had a lot of problems.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: honeybun on September 09, 2014, 09:38:41 PM
It's certainly worth at least asking. Of course it does not happen to all. More common if you have it removed when you are a bit older. My sis was 63 when she had hers done.
Look into the Milk Thistle. It's pretty good stuff and you could start that before you have tests.

Honeyb
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Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on September 10, 2014, 05:59:40 AM
Thanks I will. That's good advice. I have some research to do. I haven't slept well and can't blame my husbands snoring! Bit worried really. As the doctor said, it's not immediately dangerous, but needs to be sorted ASAP. I'm worried about the consequences of being so suddenly incapacitated by pain. It is so overwhelming. What if it starts when I am driving and can't stop? Perhaps my car is trying to tell me something. It is poorly too. I'm supposed to be singing in a concert on Saturday as well.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on September 10, 2014, 11:03:24 AM
Add stress about the concert and you've got the full whack  ::)
I expect it was triggered by the grease in the fish and chips.  I really have to fancy certain foodstuffs in order to be able to digest properly - i.e. egg meals, pizza, f/chips .........

How are you this morning?  Weather nice?
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on September 10, 2014, 11:21:53 AM
Had a lazy morning at the house. Beautiful weather today, mountains in the distance.

Abdomen feels sore, but ok. Yes, I agree the fish and chips are probably the cause. I normally eat carefully these days, so maybe I would have problems before if I hadn't. Having done a bit of research, I wonder if all the digestive problems and insulin resistance I have are all linked. I used to eat less healthy foods, until I was forced to eat a healthy diet due to food intolerances. Obviously I shall need a scan, but I hope dietary changes will avert further problems. We'll see.

My daughter and her partner have come to this area several times and have planned a gentle walk this afternoon. They enjoy the rough terrain and climbing. I had hoped to visit some castles, but will save that to next time.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on September 10, 2014, 02:11:35 PM
Certainly the castles won't go away  ;) Edward built them to last ............  :whist:  glad that you can see the Mountains.  Sometimes  ::) one has to remember that they are there ...........
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on September 10, 2014, 02:11:55 PM
Have you driven into Towyn for honey ice-cream yet?
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: dahliagirl on September 10, 2014, 07:05:44 PM
Probably best to avoid the ice cream until after the scan..................... :(
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on September 10, 2014, 11:25:36 PM
Well saw the mountains, mostly from the rear window of an ambulance. Very prolonged and painful episode this afternoon. Stayed in busy hospital a & e till nearly 12. Would have admitted me if I had lived locally, but dispatched me with ABs, and letter with blood results for GP. Going to attempt journey home tomorrow. Instructions to go to a hospital if need be.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: honeybun on September 11, 2014, 07:17:16 AM
Hope you manage to get home safe and sound Ju Ju.

You sound as if you need treatment sooner rather than later. Such a shame your holiday has been ruined.

Take care.


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Milamam on September 11, 2014, 07:38:26 AM
Ju Ju hope the trip back will be ineventful, yes you should visit your doctor as soon as possible. Cross finges things will work out well,
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on September 11, 2014, 12:47:04 PM
Bangor then?  Ambulance journeys are a tale unto themselves  ::)
Hopefully once in your own bed and bathroom you will feel a little better.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Taz2 on September 11, 2014, 04:53:08 PM
This sound similar to my OH's sister Ju Ju. She put off her gall bladder op due to worries over the after effects but then got an infection called cholecystitis and was in severe pain. She had the operation nine months ago and has been fine ever since - even running a marathon last month. Although it is worrying that some people do develop dumping syndrome it is even more worrying to be severely ill with gall bladder infections.

Hope you feel better soon.

Taz x  :hug:
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on September 11, 2014, 06:26:51 PM
No pain today and got home safely. 6 1/2 hours journey, but traffic not too bad. Have an appointment tomorrow with a doctor, who has little bedside manner. I usually refuse to see him as I witnessed him being very rude to a member of staff, but this is bread and butter stuff, not vague. Hubbie will come with me. He's a very useful resource. As for Wales, we'll be back! Well that's 3 ambulance rides this year! Not planning any more!
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: honeybun on September 11, 2014, 06:53:21 PM
Glad you got home ok Ju Ju.

Taz is right. If you are having this level of pain then dumping syndrome or not you need to get sorted and feel well.

My mother's surgery has a doctor that is awful with bed side manner. He is however a really good doctor so we put up with every thing else.


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: groundhog on September 11, 2014, 08:50:57 PM
Hope you get this sorted soon Ju Ju.  So horrible to be in pain and when y are away from home it's even worse.  My husband had his gall bladder out many years ago when in the Royal Navy.  He had a few attacks of pain and was in agony.  He did have some problems after surgery as in needing to go to loo urgenty after food but this soon settled down.  Hope you don't have to wait too long for your scan so you get some answers.
Best wishes to you and your family xx
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on September 12, 2014, 07:09:02 PM
Another day pain free. I saw the doctor, who was very helpful. I have been referred for a scan within the next 2 weeks and been given a prescription for more effective painkillers. I've decided not to drive for a few days, as the pain comes on so quickly, but actually that's not too big an issue as my car needs very expensive work done. If it happens again, we'll call for an ambulance, so things can be sorted out much quicker. Meantime, I feel ok and will just get on with life. I think I've had too much excitement for one year!
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Limpy on September 12, 2014, 07:33:39 PM
It's good the doctor was helpful.
Take it his bedside manner was better than you feared?
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on September 12, 2014, 08:58:40 PM
Don't rush about because you feel better and take care with your diet!
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on September 16, 2014, 04:31:18 PM
Had another prolonged pain episode yesterday. That's 4 in a week. It was bad and prolonged and the pain killers didn't seem to touch it. I was on my own and eventually decided to ring 999. Answering the questions was difficult as I was finding it so difficult to breathe and think. When the paramedics got here the pain started to ease a bit, but they wanted me to still go to the hospital. One of them said if I was their mum they would have insisted. I wondered if I went I could get a scan done sooner rather than later.

Once I was shown into a cubicle, I was left for 2 hours, staring at the walls and overflowing bins and rubbish on the floors. Eventually bloods were taken, which were normal, thanks to the ABs. I was told to go home, take painkillers and cope with the 'discomfort'. My mild husband had arrived after driving 3 hours and heard this and saw red. To describe such intense pain as discomfort! The doctor was very young and I felt sorry for her. Apparently, because the pain is the only symptom, I'm not a priority.

I went home very low, particularly as my daughters friend had to wait 2 years for treatment. However, she only had the pain occasionally. Then I dreamt they found nothing on the scan and that I was left trying to cope. I'm scared to drive or go anywhere now as it comes on so quickly. Been crying a lot today, though no pain. Not like me. But just had a phone call for a scan on Friday, so maybe my trip to the hospital was not in vain. I don't know what I want to happen. My diet is now so restricted, low fat, low sugar, low carb and wheat free. What is there to eat? The other thing is I have read that HRT and rapid weight loss can cause gall stones, so maybe I have caused this. Sorry feeling low today.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Limpy on September 16, 2014, 04:58:28 PM
Ju Ju - You will have had a big shock yesterday, not surprised you are feeling low today.
It must have been scary being by yourself, well done for ringing the ambulance, they obviously took your pain seriously. Hopefully you will get more information after the scan.

Please don't think you have caused this by using HRT and losing weight rapidly. All you have been doing is to look after yourself and try to maintain your quality of life.

Good luck for Friday. Hope you start to feel better soon.

Lots of (gentle) hugs :hug:  :hug:  :hug:
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on September 16, 2014, 05:59:51 PM
Thank you Limpy. I'm glad things are better for your husband.  All these things are stressful for the rest of the family. I get interrogated by my newly qualified paramedic son. He rings everyday.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: honeybun on September 16, 2014, 06:13:22 PM
Sorry you are still suffering Ju Ju.

My sis had a scan and gall stones diagnosed. She said she would be prepared to take a cancellation at very short notice. She got a call three weeks later on a Friday and went in on the Monday. It's usually day surgery but she was kept in over night so they could get her meds sorted out.

Hope everything gets sorted quickly for you. Not surprised you have been upset. Anyone would.

 :hug:


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on September 16, 2014, 06:36:24 PM
Oh not again ………. and being left for 2 hours  :bang: …….. not even a peep round the curtains to see if you required a bed pan? cuppa ?  chat ?  :-\

You haven't caused your symptoms, they probably began years ago as gall/kidney stones are usually slow to grow.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Limpy on September 16, 2014, 07:45:46 PM

Thank you Limpy. I'm glad things are better for your husband.


Thanks lots Ju Ju
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on September 19, 2014, 06:42:26 PM
Been free of pain since Monday. Had my scan today. As I had waited in the waiting room alongside some pregnant ladies I was tempted to ask whether I was having a boy or girl, but restrained my self to asking if she saw anything to account for the pain I have experienced. She only said there might be gall stones, but to go and see my GP in a week to 10 days.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Limpy on September 19, 2014, 07:17:36 PM
It seems to take a long time to get results.
Chances are she knows already but has to inform your GP first.
Hope you are pain free

:hug:
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on September 19, 2014, 07:40:44 PM
The Report needs to be typed and sent to the GP …….. if there was anything un-toward I would expect she would have asked for advice from a Consultant …...
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on October 01, 2014, 04:09:00 PM
Saw the doctor today and yes it's gall stones, lots of small ones. He has referred me to  a consultant, who he reckons will recommend having my gall bladder removed, particularly in view of the level of pain I have had. I asked the doctor about dumping syndrome, but he said he had never come across this, so a question for the consultant I suppose. Fortunately, I have been pain free for over 2 weeks now, but the doctor and others all shake their heads sagely and say it will come back. Ah well, pain killers and charged phone accompany me everywhere! Just getting on with things, but not venturing too far unaccompanied (scared of having to stop on a motorway).
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on October 01, 2014, 04:12:18 PM
Why not have laser treatment first, I believe that small stones are knocked with a laser to break them up so that they are passed by the body : or is that kidney stones ?   :-\   â€¦â€¦. make sure that your discuss 'dumping syndrome' with the Consultant so that you are reading from the same page - at least you know ………. nothing sinister.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Limpy on October 01, 2014, 04:12:52 PM
It's good you know what it is.
How long till you see the consultant?
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on October 01, 2014, 06:15:46 PM
I should get an appointment with the consultant within 6-8weeks. I'll discuss all the options and concerns then.  I certainly can't go on with the shadow of such extreme pain coming on at any time, though I am getting more confident in carrying on as usual.
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on October 01, 2014, 07:04:19 PM
Could you take a cancellation appt.? if you ring the Appts Office and suggest that if someone can't attend you could go at short notice ……….  :-\ you might get in earlier!
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: groundhog on October 01, 2014, 08:28:51 PM
Hi Ju Ju - glad you have had a diagnosis.  My husband had few gall stone attacks and he was crying in pain.  He has had gall bladder removed many years ago and is fine.  The level of pain he had though left him in no doubt about the surgery.  Hope you get to see the consultant soon - we may be having our ops around the same time!   
Best wishes my lovely xx
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on October 02, 2014, 12:00:48 PM
Thank you, yes, I really don't think I can live with the threat of the pain, as it is so all consuming. It is 10/10 pain and can go on for hours. I am a bit anxious about going out and about and particularly driving, as it comes on so suddenly, with little time to get to a place of safety. The doctor said that some people can cope with dietary changes and pain killers, but not if they have experienced the pain I have. I will discuss the ins and outs of this with the consultant. One positive thing from all this, is that I do not fear death, but I did fear pain. They say this is one of the worst pains you can experience and I get through it, but not quietly!
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: honeybun on October 02, 2014, 12:33:41 PM
Ju Ju, have you considered Milk Thistle tablets in the meantime. My hubby takes them as he has little stones in his gall bladder.

I know you will have to have surgery but it might help a bit.


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on October 02, 2014, 02:11:55 PM
I think I fear pain so don't deal with it because I never know how long it will last  :-\
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Ju Ju on October 26, 2014, 07:43:01 PM
Having been free of pain for a few weeks, I made up for it today with a vengeance. Had vague pain since last night, then prolonged severe pain this morning. Fortunately my hubbie was home, though he felt pretty helpless. But I felt safer with him there. I tried to ride it out, but started vomiting, which made the pain even more severe, so my hubbie phoned 999. A first responder arrived as the pain receded. As usual, very kind. As I gradually felt a bit better, so refused to go to hospital, but on the understanding if the pain came back we ring 999 again and that I go to see the doctor tomorrow. Feel wrung out, particularly as the pain hasn't gone completely, vaguely simmering in the background. Still haven't got an appointment through from the consultant. By coincidence, I was changing sheets on the bed again. Perhaps we had better sleep in stinky sheets in the future!
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: CLKD on October 26, 2014, 07:59:17 PM
You must take it easy!  If necessary ring the Appt Desk in the morning and explain the situation?
Title: Re: Feel like a fraud!
Post by: Limpy on October 26, 2014, 08:20:30 PM
Ju Ju - Please see the doctor tomorrow.
Might be worth ringing the consultant's secretary to see how long it will take to see him/her.
Hope you feel better soon.