Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Mariab on July 25, 2024, 07:43:46 AM
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Morning ladies,
I have been on hrt for a year and antidepressants for 9 months but I am still getting anxiety dips every month so i had an appointment with the meno nurse and she suggested I go from 2 to 3 pumps of gel and not to let the anxiety trick me into thinking it's not working, well the first 3 weeks I felt great almost back to myself but Sunday it started again anxiety! Now 4 days in feeling pants...
Doesn't matter what I seem to do it keeps coming... any ladies have this experience? I'm scared this is always going to happen
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Morning. Do U keep a mood/food/symptom diary? R these anxiety moods cyclical for example?
How were U doing your regular menstruating years, I had ups and downs but knew it was 'that time of the month'.
Which AD was prescribed?
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You need to give it longer, my anxiety took 3 months to go. Suggest you keep a diary so you see what part of the cycle you're on when you get it. I've had to increase oestrogen twice over the years because anxiety and insomnia returned as my own oestrogen production declined.
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Thanks for the replies
Anxiety was every middle of the month...but now its changed to the end of the month..I have no idea where my cycle is as I have a coil fitted...but before periods were getting closer together and lighter only lasting 2 days...I am on citalopram 20mg and pregabalin lowest dose..I am now keeping a diary and have eaten rubbish foods lately as I felt better, maybe that's a factor..I will stick to the 3 pumps for a few months more and see if things improve... :)
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Also make a note of your diet for 3/4 days and nights, we are allowed treats ;-). However, since cutting out ultra processed foods my digestive system feels better.
4 me anxiety surges can be caused when my body needs energy .
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Mmm that's interesting 🤔
I have just broken up for the summer as I work in a school as the cook and have been so tired but was dealing with it but I guess it may have got the better of me :-\ :)...I do have a habit of using processed foods as I cook all day from scratch I kinda get lazy at home cooking wise...
Maybe I shoild address this. :)
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Yep ;D.
What kinds of foods stuffs can you turn out on a school budget? Is it varied enough for kids? Do the staff get to eat too?
Don't deny yourself though. Gradually add more fruits/veg as well as dried fruits, DH munches on dates, pineapple and mango. I read recently that we should be eating more pulses, sounds a bit 70s Hippy Like to me ;D.
Also there are foods that I wouldn't touch with a barge pole :D. Did U go to College to train as a Cook, ours would remember that I didn't eat vanilla semolina so wouldn't allow 2nds of the chocolate flavour which I loved >:( ::)
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Also if you think of how tired kids might B if they aren't given breakfast B4 school, hence the need for Breakfast Clubs: as well as seeing babies/toddlers crying when in the supermarket when it's near their feed times ...... we need to remember that adults require energy boosts too.
My eating problems began when young, partly because I would get hungry after school but would be told "If you eat now you will spoil your tea". By then I was long past it = intense nausea . :'(
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Honestly all school meals are made with fresh ingredients and made from scratch..
Very healthy....my sausage rolls are legendary 😋..if the children knew how may vegetables were added to them ;).
Adults do also partake...I do sometimes but do not always get the time...
Yes I did a college course which allowed me to learn on the job also...before that I worked in care for many years...
Luckily we don't serve semolina (yuck) :D
I do agree that I should eat better and I have also heard about pulses but they don't look very appealing do they . :P
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I've been on HRT too, and I had similar issues with anxiety. Sometimes it takes a while to find the right balance, and even with changes, it can be a bit of a rollercoaster.
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Pulses are Oh So Yesterday ;D and nope, it's takes too much forward planning.
Give me roasted beetroot in fact any roasted veg. :-*
Now: where were we ;D
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;D..
Yes enough about grub....any excuse for me to stuff my face :P
I do hope im on the right track to find a balance, dont really want to be up and down like this forever, it's very frustrating...
Are you still kn your roller coaster mini cat???,
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I wondernif anyone has ever recovered from this or managed to get off the roller coaster?, I'm worried I will have to rely on meds indefinitely. :(
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Why worry about continuing with medication long term? If U were diabetic or required heart medications? I didn't want to be on anti-depressant medication but by taking it regularly DH and I have a life together 8)
Once I got a regime that works I didn't think twice about taking my medication regularly.
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Thanks you for that😊perspective is what I need and reasurance. X
I suppose when I think about it..when I'm feeling well I don't think twice about it...
I think I'm just feeling off and negative thoughts creep in, will I ever be better all the time, will the meds stop working, will if find the right balance etc..and then that fuels the anxiety....the doom feeling is the worst...but I do know I'm not alone... :)
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Oh I've been through all that when I began antidepressant medication in t he 1980s. Still here! Still upright ;-). 'they' would have to fight me 2 remove me from my meds !!!! oh and for chocolate ;D
When my anxiety floors me I feel that I will never be well ...... which is scary. My brain never returns to how well I've been ::), it always hones in on negatives. I don't know why, whether it's a survival strategy from our cave days?
This too will pass. Half a day at a time.
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Yes, when I'm having bad days I do take the day slowly and get through the best I can...
At the moment it's lasting all day but I do know it will pass..if only it would pass permanently.... :-\...
I'll stop feeling sorry for myself now ;D.x
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Yes, when I'm having bad days I do take the day slowly and get through the best I can...
At the moment it's lasting all day but I do know it will pass..if only it would pass permanently.... :-\...
I'll stop feeling sorry for myself now ;D.x
I know how this is. Sometimes it is getting through the next hour. Go easy on yourself and try to work out what it is you need at the time as that will differ. I too have had worsening symptoms mid cycle and then end of cycle which im sure is estrogen related particularly around ovulation when estrogen peaks. I now see a private psychiatrist and am on the right medication, to the point that even my PMDD is reduced to 2-3 days per month when it used to be a full 2 weeks. However I still get a dip when I get my period and it throws me off kilter for a few days so there is definitely some kind of hormonal interaction going on too. It is so hard, I really feel for you and I hope it gets better x
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It is hard ....... sometimes the 'dips' are worse than when it all began! Eating regularly can help, I may have said ::)
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From reading the guidelines today, it also looks like updated guidance is being issue in November this year, so not sure what else will change, although hopefully for the better!
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Morning ladies,
I have been on hrt for a year and antidepressants for 9 months but I am still getting anxiety dips every month so i had an appointment with the meno nurse and she suggested I go from 2 to 3 pumps of gel and not to let the anxiety trick me into thinking it's not working, well the first 3 weeks I felt great almost back to myself but Sunday it started again anxiety! Now 4 days in feeling pants...
Doesn't matter what I seem to do it keeps coming... any ladies have this experience? I'm scared this is always going to happen
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Estrogen drops in peri and so does progesterone but at a much faster rate so there is a risk of estrogen dominance
Some people find relief from initially just doing the progesterone- there is an estrogen dominance group in Facebook- and then adding estrogen later
Do you have any histamine or gut issues as that can also cause anxiety
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Hi,
I have ibs and have started to take probiotics.i have a constant blocked nose and sinus problems..I assumed this was my cat causing this but also kind of thought these were peri symptoms also
I do have the marina coil would that not give me enough progesterone ???
Was adding another pump of gel a mistake 😕...oh dear anxiety speaking ::)
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How does your body feel with the extra pump?
As for allergies, in peri menopause we may become more sensitive ! Although I found out that my allergic rhinitis is due to dust >:( ::)
IBS is a cover for many gut conditions. I have slow transit. For several years I drank two small bottles of Actimel a day and certainly when we were on. holiday without them, my bowel function was different.
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For the first 3 weeks on extra pump I felt amazing the best I've felt in a long time and lasted for the longest time so far but then this dip again...but doesn't seem to be as strong as before although unpleasant...I've had noticeable ibs problems for the past 3 years has all the investigations done and they found nothing and said it was all anxiety fed..
This has improved but flares up obviously when I'm anxious the most...it's not so much fearing things it's better in that respect, its that dread feeling I cannot shake...it's hard to explain to people if they have never felt it and good for them as I wouldn't want to wish it on anyone.
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Forgot to ask...
The doctor will not offer me a blood test to check my hormone levels, as I'm in peri..but surely it will give an indication depending on my mood and other symptoms??
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You probably need more estrogen, Maria. It is very common for an increase to result in better symptoms - and then for things to go backwards a bit, because your body has made use of the extra estrogen and needs more. It is very promising that you felt 'amazing' when you first increased, it suggests that low estrogen is responsible.
Your doctor should offer you a blood test to check absorption if you are on the maximum licensed dose and still have symptoms. Are you on 4 pumps yet? If not, increase to 4 pumps and then ask your doctor for a blood test 6 weeks later if you still have these symptoms. Test during your period if possible as this will show you more accurately what you are getting from the HRT.
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tnx joziel - and mayB don't increase all at once, giving your body time to uptake the extra as you move to 4 pumps?
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Thanks ladies...
I will give the 3 pumps another 2 months before considering any extra...so it has plenty of time to get into my system
I don't have period joziel as I have the coil fitted so can't judge it that wait..it's all a guessing game really
It almost day 10 of feeling off so about another 4 to go before it starts lifting.. :).
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My Newson doctor says the fastest increase is every 4 weeks. That's what she advises me.
I've just ignored her and increased to 6mg of Sandrena after 1 day at 4mg however. ;D 4mg had me awake until 3am with all my worst night time symptoms - which improved as soon as I increased the next night. I'd rather slightly overshoot and then do bloods and find out and reduce down than spend half my life incrementally increasing HRT. That's why I am now 3 years on HRT and still have not got my E over 325pmol :-\
I find that the symptoms I have improve within about 2 days of an increase, definitely by a week I can tell a difference. None of this 3 months business - I think some side effects like breast soreness, bleeding patterns and that kind of thing can take 3 months to settle and for some reason all side effects have been lumped together and we're just told to wait that long for everything. When some of us know our own bodies a bit better than that...
Maria, did you try utrogestan? I'm just wondering if your occasional mood blips could be low progesterone. The Mirena will deal with the uterine lining building up but it's not going to replace your lost progesterone. There is nothing wrong with you taking progesterone as well as being on the Mirena. The NHS sometimes doesn't like to prescribe both because they seem to think the entire role of progesterone is to stop the uterine lining building up so you don't need both - but P does much more systemically than this. However if you have bad P side effects, then ignore me....
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Hi, I don't think I am intolerant of progesterone, although it's hard to pin point what's working and what's not...
Last time I upped my gel to 3 pumps I had bleeding, sore breasts etc and reduced back to 2.. but this time increasing nothing at all...could this also be a sign of low eastrogen?, or opposite?...
I'm worried I'll have eastrogen dominance and feel worse... I have never had my levels checked only fsh which of course was normal ::)
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oestrogen is a natural hormone so try not to worry about 'dominance'. If upping a dose causes symptoms then drop it again ..... it can be a bit Trial and Error.
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So does that mean I won't get more anxiety by doing so???,
Sorry to little on..maybe I should be brave and just do it ;) :-\ ;) :)
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Whittle not little ::) ;D
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How do U feel this morning?
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I still.feel.off :-\, dreading the day ect
Trying to keep busy to help...
Usually it starts getting better in the evenings at this point in stead of all day so fingers crossed... :)
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I found that, once my daily commitments were over and once I had eaten properly, I was a different person by 7.00 p.m. I had to learn not to say 'yes' to anything because I knew by morning, anxiety would floor me :-\
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"Last time I upped my gel to 3 pumps I had bleeding, sore breasts etc and reduced back to 2.. but this time increasing nothing at all...could this also be a sign of low eastrogen?, or opposite?."
Maria, this sounds exactly like me. When I first went on HRT I got every high estrogen symptom that existed every time I increased. When increasing recently I felt absolutely nothing at each increase. It turned out that originally my own ovaries were contributing massive amounts (unpredictably) and they seem to have stopped now, leaving me with too low estrogen.
So I reckon if you are feeling nothing at all now, you need more estrogen. The sore boobs and bleeding last time was probably your own body contributing a lot...
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Ahhhh good to know
Thankyou all so much for your support and advise...
I'll come back with an update, hopefully I would have found my sweet spot.. ;D
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I could answer that but won't ;D [DH knows exactly where ....... etc., etc., etc.]
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I don't know what you mean 😏 : ;D
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Oh yes U do .......... :lol: sorry 'it isn't C.mas yet' [there's a thread here somewhere :D]
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Ok well,
I put and extra half a pump on last night and today I'm freaking out abit..
Need someone to tell me to stop being silly :-\
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OK Mariab Stop being Silly - better now?
How do U feel overall though?
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;D thanks, Felt good last night..been abit jittery today, nauseous abit, slight sore breasts and anxious ::).... I know the extra bit won't make a difference yet...so I know it's me...??
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I don't know how quickly HRT kicks in. I had hoped that some1 else on a regime would pop by ........ ::)
How is your eating pattern?
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I eat very regularly so keep blood levels ok... not always the right things maybe ::)
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Maria, it can make a difference that fast for sure. Many of us can tell when E hits. And if I have bad symptoms (such as my attempt to move to Sandrena a few days ago!) and I put some gel on, in 90 minutes I'm ok again. Sore boobs I don't think would happen within one day...
I think sometimes the jitters are due to surges from our own ovaries and there's not much we can do about that because if we try to reduce HRT, by the time we've done that, the surge has gone and then we are low again. Sometimes I think taking a higher dose of estrogen during peri is actually a much better idea - because higher doses switch off our ovaries more. Just like the pill does. Then you avoid the peaks and troughs of what we make ourselves. I think we still make a low amount but the ovaries are not really active.... Another approach might be taking a progestin only pill as well as HRT (they are licensed to be taken as birth control whilst on HRT). This will also stop ovulation, make our ovaries quiet down and stop pumping surges out.... Just a couple ideas anyway.
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Ah, thank you for the info :)
I also have an underactive thyroid so that may also be a factor...
So many things to consider :-\ :)
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AAAHhh. - we have thyroid function threads here too.
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Right so update...my anxiety started to lift last night finally and I had abit this morning but now feel alot better!!, I hope I havnt jinxed it now. :-\. but it lasted two weeks again...I have started a diary and a pattern Is emerging so what I need know now is which hormone is causing what.. :).
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It would appear to be cyclical? Keeping that diary will give U an idea as to when to expect a raise in anxiety 4 which U may be able to take medication. Glad that U feel better, it always surprises me how ill I can suddenly become when anxiety floors me.
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Yes, it seems to come from nowhere doesnt it and is awful, but I think it takes a strong person to tackle any of this..so respect to all the ladies who are going through it... :)
I've had a bit of a dip this afternoon so still not quite there but I hope it continues to get better now for a while..I definitely will take what I have recorded to the meno nurse in September and see what she says :)
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Eat Girl Eat! I used to have a dip around 3.30 p.m. so always had a banana or similar B4 driving home.
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i will eat promise....
Does nachos and salsa count ;D
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YEP 8) ;D
as does chocolate and ice cream - regularly ;). How do U feel this evening?
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I feel alot more relaxed now...
Husband is playing guitar...while chilling in the front room. olympics on...
I love this feeling :D :)...
Thanks for asking how I feel, I appreciate it :)
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Bugger bugger bugger! It's back with a vengeance...
I'm starting to think hrt is not for me and stopping...soooooo fed up with it all....
:'(
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It's early morning anxiety - this happened to me for many years, improving by evening.
However knowing that I would improved as the day went by never stopped the despair at waking feeling the same >:(. 4 me it was nausea ........
Can't help much other than say this too will pass!
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I know a blood test isn't accurate but surely it would give me some sort of indication what my levels are...
The docs will not do a blood test but I see other women on here manage to get one?
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It may well depend on the Surgery. Blood tests are reliably un-reliable so a GP probably won't request them. Many still rely on 'age' rather than symptoms >:( which is why a food/symptom/mood diary could be of use to show a pattern.
How R U spending the weekend?
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Which dose of AD have U been prescribed: sorry if you've mentioned but it's hot and I'm tired : :-\ and how long have U been taking it? Why worry about coming off HRT?
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I'm on 20mg of citalopram and have been on it since last October, so a wee while..
Hrt was started last July..but have most improvements since the citalopram started...
I'm a little worried stopping hrt as maybe things will get worse..but before I started it didn't get this feeling quite so often. X
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It may be your own hormones rising and falling which can over ride medication.
MayB discuss with your GP about upping the AD dose?
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I did ask about that but she wanted to see if upping eastrogen worked first...
So maybe time for another discussion 🤔
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Take that list with you ;-). How has today been overall?
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Horrible start, eased about 12pm and now coming in and out...so up and down really...can't seem to relax..I around be a pro by now ;D....
Scared for the morning now.... ::)
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I used to be scared to go to sleep due to busy, involved, awful dreams. Now the dreams are busy, involved .... picking up a person not thought of for years++ and a news item, mixing them up to abosulte chaos. I often think 'what was that all about!' >:( and wake, knackered.
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Yes arnt dreams weird..
I've always had vivid dreams and still remember some from when I was little..also used to realise I was dreaming in my dream and would do what I liked like fly, steal a horse for a ride, walk out of school ;D...but I had alot of nightmares too...still dream lots now.
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Morning. I love my flying dreams so effortless: round the Pier at Aberystwyth. Wolves was my childhood dream ........ would hardly dare move after and had to walk with back to the wall to the bathroom when I woke.
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Mine bad ones was an old lady sitting on the bed with huge eyes and a huge twethy smile !!
And cats trying to tickle me...
Mmmm ;D
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I've never dared to have my dreams analysed :o ;D
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Hi all, I thought I would give an update to my situation...it may help one others hope wise....
Well I did speak to the doctor and she :) upped my AD to 30mg as from the 1st of September and I have dropped my eastrogen gel to 1 and half pumps and honestly I feel so much better...
I'm getting abit of insomnia and aches etc......but I'll take that over the anxiety.... :)
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Have you thought about taking CBD? I'm taking it for my anxiety, and it helps a great deal.
I'm subscribed to the Lyphe clinic (https://cannabisaccessclinics.co.uk/clinic/lyphe-clinic-reviews/). They help me with the dosage, and I have monthly consultations there. You can try it, nothing to lose.
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Hiya, I have had cbt already and it does help massively..I've get everything in place just when the anxiety hits you, you forget how bad it feels and it sends me into a tizzy...
But I am getting better at handling it now... meds have helped alot also :)
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tnx for the update Mariab. How is your diet overall as low energy levels can cause surges of anxiety. Eating every 3 hours helped me, a lot!
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Hey :)...
My diet is OK, eating very often fruit with healthy yogs, otherwise I've slipped abit, eating breakfast biscuits, crisps, etc..but no chocolate...drinking lots of tea, I seem to crave it as its nice amd warm..I'm.not sleeping very well and am still getting night sweats but has reduced...anxiety has flared up in last two days but so has sore breasts..
It seems everytime I admit outlook I'm feeling better I seem to crash a little ::)... I have been tired and lethargic lately...it will go again I know , just get fed up every time it comes back. :)
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Of course. Bounce backs are often worse ::).
Nowt wrong with a good cuppa, the UK thrives on it! you don't seem to have much protein in your diet .......... I'm not a fish person but do like my beef or pork done in the air fryer ;-). With roasties :-*
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I love a roast.beef, lamb, chicken yum yum and..am making toad in the hole as we speak......
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Toad in the hole, now that's a memory but I don't like sausages ;D. I'll have the Yorkshire though ;)
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Well...abit of an upset and anxiety back!!!
I want to get of this ride now ::)
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Of course. What triggered it: R U eating little and often ......... it can feel awful :'(
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It was a misunderstanding with my husband.. (his fault)which almost broke my heart but all ok now..it's just triggered the anxiety big time...being sick, head ache, doom feeling...feel like I've stepped backwards...my eating stopped just for a day but I guess it all has an impact..but it makes me realise I still can't handle difficult situations like I used to which scares me abit. :-\
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Is there a fault to call? How likely is he to sit down to talk about triggers etc.? Any1 shouting is my biggest trigger :-\ even when not in anger.
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Oh there was definitely fault on his part and admitted fault but he is also going through a midlife transition that he doesn't understand...he also admits he doesn't understand what I'm going through also but he is supportive this is the first time in 17 years he has upset me like that and he is sorry but it's left me feeling awful but I know it will pass its just not pleasant :-\
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MayB you both need to see a counsellor au fait with 'change of life'? Relate have waiting lists . If U are able to identify any trigger faults, mayB have a buzz word which is what the Psychologist for whom I worked suggested to couples: buzz word = too far or too noisy!
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Not sure he would be up for that but may approach the subject....
I know you have mentioned recently you had a set back..how long did it last if you don't mind me asking???. :)
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Oh they happens and ground me :-\ fortunately not that often if I keep to a routine. It varies: I've had to swallow an emergency tablet a couple of times this year when anxiety took over. They knock me out for a few hours and I wake up fine.
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Soooo,
Having dropped my gel to 1 pump I felt fine then after a few weeks, I couldn't sleep properly again and aches and pains back ::) so a few days ago I increased back to 2 pumps and now anxiety has ramped up...is this normal when increasing again?.......
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Oh I have no idea. MayB add the extra pump a few times a week rather than every night for a couple of weeks? To C if that helps overall?
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Actually that's a good idea I could try that...
Thanks :)
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It isn't recommended by many but finding a regime that helps can be Trial and Error. The body may feel overwhelmed with too much 'extra' too soon.
Let us know.
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Hi Maria,
I know my situation's different, (2 pumps Esgtrogel and 1 x Utrogestan in the eve days 1-25) and I've had that discomfort/pain in my chest for a while, but noticed the last few days it had started to dissipate, and I just realised that's because I was on my progesterone break, I had spoken to the docs about it and as Ive only been on it a month she said to let it settled but could well be the Utrogestan causing it. I'm due for a coil fitting in a few weeks and hoping that helps.
She did prescribe me buspirone to take if it gets really bad. I haven't taken it yet, don't want to rely on them, have you heard of that?
Though I guess it sounds like it's Estrogen for you.
Not helpful I know but just wanted to say I sympathise, as mine has been awful recently, I'm also very very teary, something I never used to be.
Sending hugs x
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Hey,
Thankyou for your message :)...it is awful at times and just when you think you've cracked it then bam...
I am always second guessing my eastrogen intake but I now know I need more than one pump so will stick with 2 for a while..I have heard of buspirone but have never used it...I use a secondary anti anxiety meds called pregabalin which isn't ideal but it helped me out of a bad place....
I have found the coil a huge benefit and vagifeme also....
It's all so pants isn't it
Sensing back hugs :)
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I hear you.. honestly thought mine was settling, then just one day back worse than before, and now I'm at the stage where I'm just accepting it, trying not to fight against it or panic.
if that helps you then it helps you... I'm holding back on using this pill, will only take it if I get really really bad I think.
Good to know you found the coil beneficial, hope I do too!, but concerned about the procedure, but it will be hopefully worth it.
Yep it certainly is.. hope things improve soon for you x
Hey,
Thankyou for your message :)...it is awful at times and just when you think you've cracked it then bam...
I am always second guessing my eastrogen intake but I now know I need more than one pump so will stick with 2 for a while..I have heard of buspirone but have never used it...I use a secondary anti anxiety meds called pregabalin which isn't ideal but it helped me out of a bad place....
I have found the coil a huge benefit and vagifeme also....
It's all so pants isn't it
Sensing back hugs :)
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Having the coil fitted was uncomfortable,
Afterwards I was out on vagifeme and when I went for a coil checkup I hardly felt a thing as vagifeme helps soften things up so things not so dry and tense...I wish I had it before having cool fitted..however once you've had it fitted and got used to it being there you honestly will just forget about it...
I'm sure things will improve, I'm already 80% better which is amazing compared to where I was...just these blips knock you back..you too will be better and come out the other side...
It's always lovely to have others ladies on here that understand. :)
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tnx for the update Mariab :foryou:
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That's great to know!
I hope so, the anxiety is physical right now and then I just link it with everything that's happening in my head and heart and it's constant pangs.
Coil fitting can't come soon enough, I just really hope it's been the Utrogestan causing this chest anxiety or I'm screwed!!
Bless you, hope the blip is brief!
big hugs x
Having the coil fitted was uncomfortable,
Afterwards I was out on vagifeme and when I went for a coil checkup I hardly felt a thing as vagifeme helps soften things up so things not so dry and tense...I wish I had it before having cool fitted..however once you've had it fitted and got used to it being there you honestly will just forget about it...
I'm sure things will improve, I'm already 80% better which is amazing compared to where I was...just these blips knock you back..you too will be better and come out the other side...
It's always lovely to have others ladies on here that understand. :)
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Anxiety for me begins in the gut, instant nausea than my thighs followed by calves become weak :'( and I am unable to function. There is no thought process behind this reaction as a therapist tried to insist, "You have to think about it B4 it happens". I walked from that session and never went back!
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Maria, have you done a 4 point saliva cortisol test?
It's just that often 'anxiety' is due to high cortisol. When our bodies make less estrogen, they try to compensate by producing more adrenal hormones (adrenaline and cortisol) which in turn makes sleep difficult and increases anxiety.
There are things you can take to reduce cortisol levels naturally. I take Alpha-GPC (choline), zinc, ashwaganda and (in the mornings) rhodiola. It takes a good few weeks to kick in, but does help. As does getting the estrogen up.
I know you're on the coil but often women also benefit from taking progesterone as it's the opposing/calming hormone - but maybe you can't tolerate it and that's why you have the coil...? If you have the coil for bleeding only and can tolerate progesterone, it might be worth seeing if you can get your GP to prescribe you some despite being on the coil.
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Hi have not done a cortisol test, I did realise you could do one!!, will look into it...
Anxiety has taken a turn into paranoia and sadness..... things such a pain honestly...
Just to have 1 normal day. :(
I just feel ugly and not loved at the moment..my self esteem is low...
I've never felt it this bad before..
I don't mean to be negative...maybe I need a pick me up. :)
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Chocolate ice cream ? ;)
How does the paranoia affect you, this needs to be discussed with your GP because there are medications that can help with these symptoms.
This too will pass. Who would U like to love u? (And I don't mean George Clooney ;) though some of the MotoGP riders can sit on our sofa )
..... and breath.
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;D you always make me smile CLKD
The paranoia affects me by making me feel like my husband doesn't love me anymore and doesn't find me attractive. Some of his behaviours of late have not helped..however he assures me this isn't the case..but he is also going through a mid life crisis which has thrown everything upside down...so it seems to be a time of uncertainty...
As I'm also still in the mix of peri I'm findingnit difficult to navigate it all. :)
May just go with a friend to spa weekend :)
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Oh :o :o a spa weekend means that I would have to shave my legs :o :-X which is why I love my evening bath.
Have U dared to sit down and actually discuss your worries, together? Each of U get an A4 sheet of paper with a line down the middle: top L - positives; top R, what can be improved - you critique him and he does you. R U missing out on any dreams even if U can't afford to follow up? Would talking to an outsider help either of you to open up = clearing your heads?
Honesty ;-).
A few times a year I do ask DH 'how can I improve' ........ I'm less feisty than I used to was ::). However, 2 day :bang: :bang: :bang:
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Ok so I have a cold, usual sore throat, cough etc blahhhhh....
But I'm guessing thats what's making me feel off at the moment..as I'm sure these things effect medication and anxiety etc....anyone else ever had this??
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Colds are draining. Get plenty of liquids, pain relief, rest ........
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Hi Ladies..
How are we all to the run up to Christmas ...
Here I am a month later and anxiety back this time quite strong....
I have tried my best but have been in tears today sooooo frustrating...
Need a pep talk :)
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No need for a pep talk! It's the pits. Anxiety made me housebound for months in the 1990s. My GP prescribed betablockas etc. which really helped.
How is your diet overall?
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My diet is fine.. have had abit of chocolate lately but nothing major....I have had alot on recently and have a teenage daughter and awol husband most of the time..so am struggling.. think I'm very tired and stressed generally.
I hate that I can't deal with things how I used to... :-\
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....... and breath. Don't B so hard on yourself. Do U mean that both DD and husband are AWOL? I trained my DH to ring home when he's out and about OR ELSE :D ::). It took a while but I am a great worrier when he's away.
MayB time 2 share with DD? Especially as it's this time of year!
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DD is at home but moans when I ask her to help or is very vacant when I'm asking her like she doesn't understand...
Then ask me why I'm what she says aggy.. :o....normal teenage stuff...
Husband working all hours which I understand but the last month it's 7 days a week all day...I get lonely....and feel I'm doing everything..and breath again. :-\ sorry don't mean to be negative..just feel low.
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Of course U probably R doing more and more: which suits the rest under the roof. Time to have that talk! Ask DD what she thinks her role is within the family dynamic, how does she expect the house 'to run'?
Does your DD bring friends home? Will she cook with you or even 1 night a week?
U know, I hear about 'teens behaviour' so often >:(. We weren't allowed to be arsey. (1970s). 1 car which Dad had. Cycled everywhere. Red phone box. We didn't have all the gadgets and connections yet young people try to make out that they are more isolated than ever. So it's time that they got together, put down the gadgets and interacted, face2face. They will then find out that all parents are towing the same line!
Privileges. Taken away will focus a teens mind. If they act like 5 years olds then everything that they value is put into the loft. Laptops, mobiles etc.. They have to earn the items back as well as taking part in household chores etc.. Everything switched off at 6.00 p.m., including parent gadgets, allowed again 8.00 a.m.
Why does your husband need to work 'all hours', what does he put back into for example, child care? Do he and DD have time doing stuff together?
These situations continue until some1 puts foot down with firm hand. Time to let them know that Things Will Be Changing ;-).
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Hi all,
I'm so sorry clkd i didn't reply, my head was everywhere...
All the advise was very sound which I did use, DD abit better but still has to be prompted but is also stressed with A level life...and husband has worked 7 days a week for 9 to 10 weeks now.....yes we need to keep business going but family time is zero and I feel like a single parent and a dried up old husk
Anxiety seems to be kinda under control, it's always in the background....recently changed from gel to patches which seems to be going OK... :)
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Hi Ladies...
Hope everyone is well..and enjoying spring time.... :)
I've been really well since the last anxiety attack I'm December, until Tuesday just gone started to feel off and now I'm feeling awful again!!!...
I've been using 1 and half pumps of gel again as patches were to strong couldnt last more than three weeks...
I've now have breast pain and anxiety with doom feeling with avangence....I was only saying last week that I'm feeling good..jinxed it didn't I... ::)
Could breast pain be eastrogen??, or just plain anxiety??, should i increase or shoild i decrease ?. I'm sure all you fellow sufferers do the same as me in the fact that as soon as it starts I fill all of my head space with how to fix it..its.exhausting... :-\
You ladies are very supportive so i just need a bit of reassurance. :)
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Oknladies never mind dropped to 1 pump and today I feel abit better.