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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: Elliebee on November 21, 2022, 12:31:29 PM
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For the past 3 months I’ve had dryness around vulva. No vaginal dryness (yet). It is not there all the time and appears in the second half of my cycle. I still have periods well more spotting !
It feels like I have a stubble rash - without the stubble! Pants or tight trousers rubbing the area make it worse.
I had a look down there with aid of mirror and I’m sure things have shrunk and the skin looks drier/thinner. I also noticed a tiny brown flat spot like a freckle on labia which has freaked me out! I’m sure it has been there for ages as I recall noticing it before during one of my calmer periods ! Health anxiety has kicked in and I’ve convinced myself it’s vulvar cancer ! Skin looks normal . I do get dry skin on right side of groin but again this seems to be hormonal and comes and goes .
Can u get freckles on vulva ?
Done an online GP consultantation,
I’m not on HRT and have a mirena coil fitted.
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Hello Elliebee. Your symptoms are classic of vaginal atrophy. You will need localised oestrogen which is applied inside the vagina and on the outer area. This is nothing to worry about as it happens to us all. There are lots of threads on here all about it which will teach you more. I also have a freckle type spot on my vulva.
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Yep. Freckles arrive anywhere!
Get thyself some vaginal atrophy treatment. As oestrogen levels drop off the body may become dry: inside and out; skin, deep in the ears, nostrils, vagina, between the toes ::). Many find that 'vagifem' helps, I use 'ovestin' with success. The idea is to insert into the vagina at night for at least 2/3 weeks, then see how the vagina feels. If possible drop down to a few times a week, though some find that nightly application is required.
You don't need an exam or blood tests - so ask your GP/Nurse Practitioner for appropriate treatment. Let us know how you get on.
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Thank you ladies this is so reassuring and as I’m feeling very low today, made me cry! One of those days where the tears just appear!
Surgery has made appointment for this Weds to see GP. They want to examine me 😬
I always thought vaginal atrophy referred to thinning and shrinking of the internal tissues ? I never realised the labia shrink too!
Are there any risks associated with the hormonal treatment for VA?
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Flossieteacake how long have u had freckle on vulva?
I’m sure mine has been there ages. Only noticed as I’ve been looking more closely 🤣
It may even be scar tissue from where I once had a cyst.
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Flossieteacake how long have u had freckle on vulva?
I’m sure mine has been there ages. Only noticed as I’ve been looking more closely 🤣
It may even be scar tissue from where I once had a cyst.
I never look at that area so I am not sure. I only saw it when I thought to check to see if the skin looked as sore as I felt. VA can cause all sorts of shrinkage down there so the sooner you start treatment the better. Localised oestrogen is not dangerous. It is essential for us as VA is a life long condition so we will always need to use the treatment.
I am sorry you are feeling so low. I can understand how worrying it is when we find a new symptom. You will see on here that VA is very common so you are not alone.
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Thank you ! The low mood will pass soon and that’s what I keep reminding myself. It comes out of the blue and goes as quickly! I’ve always been a worrier but panic more now especially when feeling low and I have a new symptom or see something I’ve not noticed before!
When feeling calm I can rationalise much more!
Hormones !!
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Thank you ! The low mood will pass soon and that’s what I keep reminding myself. It comes out of the blue and goes as quickly! I’ve always been a worrier but panic more now especially when feeling low and I have a new symptom or see something I’ve not noticed before!
When feeling calm I can rationalise much more!
Hormones !!
You are being so positive. It is good you know the low mood will pass. I can understand worrying and then reacting when a new symptom pops up. I hope your DR appointment goes well and you ask for localised oestrogen. My personal favourite is Ovestin which is a cream. If you get a pessary you will need a cream too as the pessary is to be inserted and the cream is for the outer area.
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Thank you Flossiteacake! I don’t feel positive 🤣
I will follow your advice. x
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Thank you Flossiteacake! I don’t feel positive 🤣
I will follow your advice. x
Just letting yourself it will pass it positive. :) Let us know how your appointment goes.
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I forgot to mention that I also thought it may be Lichen Scelerious but I don’t have any iichy white patches of skin on vulva.
I need to stop googling 😬
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I forgot to mention that I also thought it may be Lichen Scelerious but I don’t have any iichy white patches of skin on vulva.
I need to stop googling 😬
Your symptoms are classic vaginal atrophy. Have a browse around here and you will see many of us with the same symptoms as you. We even have a thread called The Burning Club were members share how they are feeling on it. Here is a link to it:
https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,22886.0.html
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Thank you for the reassurance. I’ll take a look at that group. x
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Thank you for this thread, I’ve just googled and realised that I have all the symptoms of VA too!
I like Elliebee, thought VA caused symptoms inside only not outside.
I’ve even seen the GP about it and neither of us have put 2 and 2 together!!
Gosh, what symptom will it be next?!?
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I let my symptoms get so out of control that it was impossible for me to sit down in the end. It was this forum that educated me to what Vaginal Atrophy was, a condition that I had never heard of. Neither do most doctors, always going down the bladder infection route, antibiotics given when there was no need, it was all a farce until I was prescribed the VA treatment, now I am all good again.
It's a bit of a shock when you haven't looked down there in years and see that you have mostly disappeared, but with the treatment it will all plump up again.
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Thank you for this thread, I’ve just googled and realised that I have all the symptoms of VA too!
I like Elliebee, thought VA caused symptoms inside only not outside.
I’ve even seen the GP about it and neither of us have put 2 and 2 together!!
Gosh, what symptom will it be next?!?
I had symptoms for years and Drs never thought of VA. Once I actually suggested it and a DR said I do not have the symptoms! It is so good you know now and you can get treatment.
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Vaginal Atrophy seems the wrong terminology! We’re always told to be specific when telling Drs which part of our downstairs is affected. Told that vagina refers to the inside bits and vulva outside.
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Vaginal Atrophy seems the wrong terminology! We’re always told to be specific when telling Drs which part of our downstairs is affected. Told that vagina refers to the inside bits and vulva outside.
I agree. It effects the vulva too. I see they call it 'genitourinary syndrome of menopause' now.
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So pleased that I'm not taking medical shorthand these days ::)
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So pleased that I'm not taking medical shorthand these days ::)
;D
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Thank you for this thread, I’ve just googled and realised that I have all the symptoms of VA too!
I like Elliebee, thought VA caused symptoms inside only not outside.
I’ve even seen the GP about it and
neither of us have put 2 and 2 together!!
Gosh, what symptom will it be next?!?
Mis71mum What are your symptoms?
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VA mimics repeated urine infection-type symptoms really, really well. 4 me it was needing to pee with intense nipping as the urine flow stopped, I would sit on the loo with a cuppa and pee at the same time. Relaxing on the loo was the place I could sit and not worry nor need to dash.
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Hi Elliebee
I’ve been having intense itching, peeing loads, burning and keep thinking I’ve got a uti coming on but my samples all test clear.
Also noticed that after showering, if I’m too heavy handed with the towel, my bits and pieces, shall we say, tear and bleed!!
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MIS71 - do U use VA treatment?
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Well I use Vagifem every night since I realised it was helping. But now I think I might need the other cream, ovestin too!
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I’m not getting any of the urinary symptoms (yet) ! At certain times of cycle my bladder seems more active and I can never hold on if really desperate for a pee due to slight prolapse and weak pelvic floor.
My symptoms are more on the vulva prickly feeling , not itchy but like there is something in my pants rubbing skin. Skin seems sensitive to pants rubbing next to it. Sometimes a burning sensation on vulva skin. Like having ants in my pants 🤣
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It's Trial and Error to get this treated, so considering the whole vaginal/vulval area is important. Deal with symptoms B4 it takes over! Some find that using 'yes' or 'sylc' products on the outer labia helpful.
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Well I use Vagifem every night since I realised it was helping. But now I think I might need the other cream, ovestin too!
There are a few things that can help. Showering instead of bathing to avoid prolonged contact with water. I was told by a menopause DR to apply emollient to the vulva, wash it off in the shower and then reapply to form a barrier. I was washing in water alone which was making my skin even drier. I am glad you are going to ask for Ovestin to apply to the outer areas. A vaginal moisturiser applied throughout the day will help too. Yes and Sylk are nice and gentle.
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I forgot to mention that I also thought it may be Lichen Scelerious but I don’t have any iichy white patches of skin on vulva.
I need to stop googling 😬
Hi. Lichen Sclerosus doesn't always have white patches, and sometimes doesn't itch either, just to complicate things. There are quite a few women in the facebook LS group who have it but don't have those symptoms.
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Elliebee, have you considered systemic hrt? That, alongside Ovestin and/or Vagifem would almost certainly make a difference.
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Saw GP today who examined me and prescribed the oestrogen cream and pessary . So, fingers crossed it helps.
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Saw GP today who examined me and prescribed the oestrogen cream and pessary . So, fingers crossed it helps.
That is great. I am so pleased you get them. Buy some vaginal moisuriser too. Sylk or Yes are gentle.
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Going to order the Yes products.
Thank you to everyone for your advice and reassurance .
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Going to order the Yes products.
Thank you to everyone for your advice and reassurance .
I hope you get on with them. :)
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Just wondering what kind of emollient people use for washing with please?
New to the menopause journey and trying to find what works for me.
Thank you xx
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I've been using Aqueous Cream for a year now with no problems.