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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Booroo on October 22, 2022, 01:45:38 PM
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If it’s not one thing it’s another,anxiety off scale last few days crying etc and now sorry if tmi but am proper sore in like urethra bit think tight jeans had to take them off on,y wore few hours taken pain relief just want it gone making anxiety worse please tell me this will pass and get better before turns into something else am proper falling apart with all of this. Am not on any hrt am 50 been peri a while I think but it’s proper revving up lately x
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Also keep wanting to pee but think that’s anxiety and having a period too
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Hi would you consider going on hrt ? It certainly sounds as if that’s what you need x
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You could be starting to get the first signs of Vaginal Atrophy with needing to pee all the time. I was like you at 50, couldn't wear my jeans for very long as it was beginning to get painful down there.
Don't despair, start doing some research on VA and get the treatment needed if that's what it is.
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Thank you Ayehsa have rung 111 on 24 hr ring back
I’ve had internal exam and no prolapse so could it still be atrophy?x
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Absolutely, its one of the first signs. But of course, a urine infection should be ruled out too.
If you have no infection, mention Vaginal Atrophy because a lot of medical professionals have never heard of it, and it usually turns out to be just that.
Do your research on it, it will be worthwhile believe me!!
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Ayesha did you feel uncomfortable like top of the triangle bit if that makes sense?x
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Every time I bent down to do something like gardening for instance, it hurt like hell down there and the constant need to pee.
At 50 I began HRT but just for about 5 years on and off. A few years on and my symptoms got worse, burning, itching, peeing, pain.
I had never heard of Vaginal Atrophy and it's a condition that gradually gets worse with time. Vagifem and or Ovestin is what's prescribed, and it's for life unfortunately.
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Great … not don’t know what to do with myself am drinking cranberry juice took paracetamol and anxiety through the roof so want to cry it’s ridiculous.
I am now using replens last couple weeks after exam by gp cos had pain then but it went away was also prescribed oestridol but not used it as worried about it all x
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Booroo I am so sorry you are in such pain. VA is such a nightmare and the sooner you get something for it the sooner you will feel better. Cranberry juice, antibiotics, will not help with this. I would also not use replens as there have been reports of it causing irritation. Yes and Sylk are more gentle and can be used to moisturise.
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Thanks Flossieteacake almost didn’t make it to loo just now😬
Did think replens actually I did a dose this morning and it was couple hours after can it really be that?
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Thanks Flossieteacake almost didn’t make it to loo just now😬
Did think replens actually I did a dose this morning and it was couple hours after can it really be that?
Replens has been linked to irritation but I think your symptoms are VA related. I understand it can be scary trying new medications but Ovestin cream is mild and you can apply a tiny bit to see how you get on with it. I hope that can reassure you a bit.
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Been using replens about couple weeks and this first time it’s been like that
I’m literally going like every 20 minutes grrr is ovestin only on prescription
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Both Ovestin & Vagifem are only on prescription but there is now Gina which is Vagifem, that is now available over the counter for women over 50. I've actually seen it advertised on TV recently.
It really does sound like you have VA unless of course it is a urine infection, they both mimic each other very well!
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Never had anything like this before that’s for sure am going away for few days later in week hopefully will get sorted soon it’s sooo uncomfortable
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Thank you Ayehsa have rung 111 on 24 hr ring back
I’ve had internal exam and no prolapse so could it still be atrophy?x
Anxiety is horrible, those morning "gut-greetings" of cortisol.
It's good you rang 111.
It could be a urinary tract infection. (UTI)
The good thing is that 111 can prescribe antibiotics.
I felt "off" last year, I put it down to stress, so I left it.
I took paracetamol :o
I even felt like I was going to be sick, but I had my promethazine prescription, prescribed for sleep, but it takes away nausea.
I rang 111, suspecting a UTI, they prescribed antibiotics which made me feel better.
I also had an appointment with my real GP, and as I had left the UTI too long, she had to give me more, unbeknown to me, I had a temperature, my real GP took temp.
She gave me stronger antibiotics, and it went.
Let us know how you get on.
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Dandelion of course will I rang back and now I should hear within hour or so then depends where I have to go for my out of hours.
Just had bath feel bit more relaxed but wanted to wash out replens?
Honestly whole thing is under rated. Do you mind if I ask do you take hrt?
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Dandelion of course will I rang back and now I should hear within hour or so then depends where I have to go for my out of hours.
Just had bath feel bit more relaxed but wanted to wash out replens?
Honestly whole thing is under rated. Do you mind if I ask do you take hrt?
I am so sorry to hear you are having VA.
I do take hrt, I want to be free of relying on pharmacies.
I am 56. I don't know what's going on.
VA is not something I have had, despite needing up to 100mcg oestrogen from 2014.
The clinicians gradually reduced me to 25mcg due to bleeds from 2018-2021.
I fear that stress is affecting me physically, because, I thought I was coming through the end of peri, as there was only night sweats left on 25mcg, however, IBS and anxiety is back and I have gradually gone up to 100mcg, bought privately, as I fear my GP won't give me 100mcg as I used to bleed.
I would drink plenty of fluids to flush yourself out if it's UTI.
I would advise fluids anyway, but I don't know about VA.
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Update
Had call back at 4 am been prescribed antibiotics to pick up today hope it works been feeling proper rough
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Hi Booroo,
I was also struggling with anxiety and the constant urge to wee. I would go to the loo and feel like my bladder wasn't emptying properly. It was quite debilitating, in a way it was lucky that we were in lock down at the time, I don't know how I would have coped if I'd been at work.
Somehow it didn't quite feel the same as a urine infection though, so luckily I didn't go down the route of repeated antibiotics.
When I started on HRT the bladder problems cleared up, along with a long list of other symptoms (never had hot flushes though!).
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Anxiety is awful isn’t it like a jibbering wreck x
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Update
Had call back at 4 am been prescribed antibiotics to pick up today hope it works been feeling proper rough
Good luck, I felt rough when I had a UTI
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Thanks just taken it so fingers crossed xx
Take care of yourself too
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Get rid of the Replens and get some appropriate vaginal atrophy treatment.
VA mimics repeated urine infection-type symptoms really really well. Get a fresh urine sample sent to a Lab, take pain relief to ease the nip as the spincter shuts off urine flow and ask your Nurse Practitioner/GP for 'vagifem'. The idea is to insert every night for 2-3 weeks, then as necessary: some require treatment nightly, others can miss a few nights i.e. using every 3rd and 5/6th nights. 'ovestin' or others, i.e. Yes or Slyc, are good for keeping the outer labia soft, less itchy and comfortable.
Rarely is there a urine infection and ABs will ease symptoms but will not improve the lack of oestrogen. ABs are over prescribed.
As oestrogen levels drop the body may become dry: inside and out; muscles maybecome lax = aches and pains. There is no need to suffer!
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Thanks just taken it so fingers crossed xx
Take care of yourself too
Thanks.
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Clkd am sending sample tomorrow but bleeding so won’t be a good one. Do you think it’s atrophy?
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Agree with everything CLKD says. I can’t understand for the life of me why GP’s don’t think Vaginal Atrophy when a woman of a certain age presents with constant recurring urine infections.
It’s always antibiotics that is thought of, they help at first but within a week all the symptoms will return. Saying this, obviously an infection has to be ruled out!
I got to the stage where I couldn’t sit down and assumed a prolapse, doctor looked and knew straight away what the problem was and prescribed topical HRT.
Even women who go to salons to have an all over waxing, the beauticians there can tell straight away what is happening to these women because when you have a good look down there, you are slowly disappearing.
Well, I am back and looking like I used to down below thanks to replacing the oestrogen that I had lost over the last ten years or so!
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Ayesha I take it on exam you didn’t have prolapse I didn’t but she didn’t say atrophy but did prescription for vagirux tablets but was told to try replens first and here we are. I am a dreadful worried with side effects from things and what it may do how does anyone come to decide hrt either normal or topical is worth the risk of having breast cancer etc x
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Booroo, I did wonder if you had not tried any VA treatment due to being anxious. The treatment is very mild. It is so gentle that you will not need any progesterone with it. Sadly, Replens will not make any difference at all and will likely cause irritation. Vaginal moisturiser can help with dryness but will not help with the pain and UTI symptoms.
It is sad that there has been so much scaremongering about HRT. If you read the studies it shows they were based on the older types of HRT and only tested women who started over 60.
VA is so distressing and in my opinion ruins lives. I do not want you to have to feel this bad when your symptoms can be improved by trying some localised oestrogen.
Often VA cannot be physically seen until the later stages so having an examination is not needed. Sadly, so many nurses and doctors have no idea about it and it is thanks to this forum that many women have come to understand they have it.
You do not have to take any HRT with it. Many women just treat the VA but do not take any other HRT.
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Flossieteacake thank you I am not at all brave when it comes to me x
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Flossieteacake thank you I am not at all brave when it comes to me x
I can understand that. Do not be hard on yourself, Booroo. Many people are concerned when it comes to trying medications. I just wanted to reassure you.
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Thank you
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Thank you
Keep posting. You are not alone and we will all support you. :)
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GPs shouldn't be suggesting 'replens', why they don't give 3 months appropriate VA treatment .......
No wonder patients get upset if GPs won't prescribe what should be obvious. If the urine sample is sent to a Lab: which often needs insisting upon as a dip stick isn't always wise: and doesn't grow bugs, then VA should be considered.
Let us know how you get on.
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Ayesha I take it on exam you didn’t have prolapse I didn’t but she didn’t say atrophy but did prescription for vagirux tablets but was told to try replens first and here we are. I am a dreadful worried with side effects from things and what it may do how does anyone come to decide hrt either normal or topical is worth the risk of having breast cancer etc x
No, it wasn't a prolapse and it was me that refused the treatment at first saying I will try the moisturisers first. I was back within a week begging for treatment as I found it impossible to live with chronic VA which mine had progressed to.
I am about 20 years older than you, and you have a lot of time to keep on top of your symptoms and I would suggest referring back to this thread to keep afresh of all the advice given here. Topical HRT is safe to use, you can even buy it over the counter now and that wouldn't have happened in the UK if it wasn't.
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Ayesha I take it on exam you didn’t have prolapse I didn’t but she didn’t say atrophy but did prescription for vagirux tablets but was told to try replens first and here we are. I am a dreadful worried with side effects from things and what it may do how does anyone come to decide hrt either normal or topical is worth the risk of having breast cancer etc x
No, it wasn't a prolapse and it was me that refused the treatment at first saying I will try the moisturisers first. I was back within a week begging for treatment as I found it impossible to live with chronic VA which mine had progressed to.
I am about 20 years older than you, and you have a lot of time to keep on top of your symptoms and I would suggest referring back to this thread to keep afresh of all the advice given here. Topical HRT is safe to use, you can even buy it over the counter now and that wouldn't have happened in the UK if it wasn't.
And me too I said exactly the same!
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4 me it was like razor blades :o up there !
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Well negative for uti and burning is back! Have appointment next week she checking me for atrophy. Can it really mess up your bladder like this?
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Well negative for uti and burning is back! Have appointment next week she checking me for atrophy. Can it really mess up your bladder like this?
Yes it can do. Maybe it would help to read the Burning Club? It is a thread were members talk about their VA and how it is affecting them. Here is the link:
https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,22886.0.html
You do not need a physical examination for atrophy as for some people there are no physical signs. If it helps to reassure you then it is worth it though. :)
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Thank you will have a read and she’s just being thorough just aswell eh?!
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Thank you will have a read and she’s just being thorough just aswell eh?!
I hope your appointment goes well and you are given some VA treatment. I find Ovestin (a cream) a bit more gentle then a pessary to begin with.
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Yes don’t fancy shoving anything up
Such a horrible thing for lots of us x
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Yes don’t fancy shoving anything up
Such a horrible thing for lots of us x
You will need to have something inside or that area will not get any oestrogen which is what we badly need when suffering from VA. Ovestin is a cream that can be inserted with an applicator but you could use a finger instead if that is easier.
It is horrible to be so sore but the sooner you start the treatment the sooner your body will feel better. You will not always be in this pain.
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I guess so.
Does being stressed and over weight contribute to it do you know?
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I guess so.
Does being stressed and over weight contribute to it do you know?
Being stressed does. When I am stressed I notice it flares and I feel in more pain. I do not think it is weight related at all.
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Ah ok thank you that is interesting x
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Ah ok thank you that is interesting x
It is frustrating how stress causes it to flare. I notice when I get upset or cry I will then become very sore and need the loo lots more. If only we could eliminate any stress that would help. :)
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Yeh my ibs is flaring too
If we had the answers wouldn’t we be rich and famous
It really means a lot to me for people to reply.thank you x
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Yeh my ibs is flaring too
If we had the answers wouldn’t we be rich and famous
It really means a lot to me for people to reply.thank you x
My pleasure.
Stress causes my ibs to flare too. I hope you can relax this evening and be gentle with yourself.
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Well I didn’t get my ring back yesterday grr and ended up ringing 111 early this morning as burning back and peeing often I also take water tablets for bp and have not taken it today to help. So got 3 day course of antibiotics just to get me through weekend and to get answers next week. I’m worried it’s more than va x
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Well I didn’t get my ring back yesterday grr and ended up ringing 111 early this morning as burning back and peeing often I also take water tablets for bp and have not taken it today to help. So got 3 day course of antibiotics just to get me through weekend and to get answers next week. I’m worried it’s more than va x
How annoying the DR did not call you back. I understand you are worried but you do have VA symptoms. Maybe you are not aware of how severe VA can be? Did you have a read of the Burning Club? I just would not want you to take antibiotics unnecessarily.
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Well I didn’t get my ring back yesterday grr and ended up ringing 111 early this morning as burning back and peeing often I also take water tablets for bp and have not taken it today to help. So got 3 day course of antibiotics just to get me through weekend and to get answers next week. I’m worried it’s more than va x
How annoying the DR did not call you back. I understand you are worried but you do have VA symptoms. Maybe you are not aware of how severe VA can be? Did you have a read of the Burning Club? I just would not want you to take antibiotics unnecessarily.
Yes I did read some pages thanks but agreed to get me through weekend and then kick ass to sort me out, sorry to keep posting how are you feeling
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Well I didn’t get my ring back yesterday grr and ended up ringing 111 early this morning as burning back and peeing often I also take water tablets for bp and have not taken it today to help. So got 3 day course of antibiotics just to get me through weekend and to get answers next week. I’m worried it’s more than va x
How annoying the DR did not call you back. I understand you are worried but you do have VA symptoms. Maybe you are not aware of how severe VA can be? Did you have a read of the Burning Club? I just would not want you to take antibiotics unnecessarily.
Yes I did read some pages thanks but agreed to get me through weekend and then kick ass to sort me out, sorry to keep posting how are you feeling
Please do not apologise for posting. That is what this forum is for. I am sorry if I seem nagging or have made you feel bad. I am okay thank you. :)
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Stress will also make VA worse, the sooner you start treatment the better as it can take months before you find any relief from its crippling symptoms. It is a serious and chronic condition and it's easy to think that it’s something else!
I would be at the stage now that I would not be needing an appointment with a doctor, no antibiotics needed just the VA treatment.
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Well I didn’t get my ring back yesterday grr and ended up ringing 111 early this morning as burning back and peeing often I also take water tablets for bp and have not taken it today to help. So got 3 day course of antibiotics just to get me through weekend and to get answers next week. I’m worried it’s more than va x
How annoying the DR did not call you back. I understand you are worried but you do have VA symptoms. Maybe you are not aware of how severe VA can be? Did you have a read of the Burning Club? I just would not want you to take antibiotics unnecessarily.
Yes I did read some pages thanks but agreed to get me through weekend and then kick ass to sort me out, sorry to keep posting how are you feeling
Please do not apologise for posting. That is what this forum is for. I am sorry if I seem nagging or have made you feel bad. I am okay thank you. :)
no you haven’t cos I wouldn’t respond to you if I felt that
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Stress will also make VA worse, the sooner you start treatment the better as it can take months before you find any relief from its crippling symptoms. It is a serious and chronic condition and it's easy to think that it’s something else!
I would be at the stage now that I would not be needing an appointment with a doctor, no antibiotics needed just the VA treatment.
im always anxious or worried about something. I know I need to sort that one too and also 111 lady said to get my fsh levels checked