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General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: Sheri on June 05, 2022, 09:18:45 AM
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How many of you still wear masks in shops etc?
I still wear mine & i live in Wales. I'm told cases are low now but trying to find info now is hard due to the "living with covid " strategy.
I'm wondering now if its time to leave off the masks unless shops are very, very busy.
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I'm in the south of England and in my local area not many wear masks in shops so I don't either. The only exception was when I'd been to a big social event and hadn't had time to test afterwards so wore one to the supermarket the next day to protect others from any possible infection. I still need to wear one to visit my friend in her care home but we no longer have to test which is a great bonus!
Are you worried that you might pass it on to others?
Taz x
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We continue to wear ours. People we know who have stopped have caught all kinds of bugs, probably because the resistance is low due to being covered up. What I hate is when shoppers reach across to a shelf - when they aren't wearing a mask. I kicked out at a very large man last week, "It is necessary to invade my personal space?" He continued to reach .......
I try to co-ordinate my masks to my T-shirs ;-).
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Don't wear mine now either,we've done all we can now to protect ourselves,I personally don't mind those who still wear them,it's perfectly ok, I just wonder though if you continue to wear one,does your immune system weaken,so that a simple cold will floor you?
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I live in the south and you still see a few people in them at the supermarket. I no longer wear one but do keep a few in my handbag as local independant chemist ask you to use one.
I have a teen and a 20 year old who still live with me so more likely to pick something up from them as they venture all over the place.
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We continue to wear ours. People we know who have stopped have caught all kinds of bugs, probably because the resistance is low due to being covered up.
Does this mean you will always wear one then as the way to strengthen your immune system is to be in contact with all types of bugs and surely eventually you would like your immunity to be strong? :-\
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I don’t wear one ever now, I have horrible claustrophobia so I couldn’t go out much at all during covid because I couldn’t take the judgey eyes even though I had a valid reason. I can handle them for short bursts. There is no use wearing then now IMO, that’s what vaccines were for. Our immunity needs to get stronger and exposing ourselves to germs is a good thing unless there is a clinical reason not to. Daughter works at a busy theme park no staff or customers in masks so no point me wearing one!
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Taz - in small places, yes or where we are likely to be in close contact from others - for a while. Especially in small shops. To make my point ;-) :which is, 'don't invade my personal space'. I've always objected to people 'getting in my way' ;)
Being masked has saved Lives, by stopping bugs infiltrating - there have been few D&V admissions to UK Hospitals during mask wearing. Is there any information that states the immune system is compromised by wearing masks? DH caught a gut infection in Feb. - his club members had stopped wearing masks and they all (20) of them, went down with something in the following 5 weeks ::).
Interesting that many sports organisations are no longer wearing masks; some in the MotoGP Paddock continue with them. I don't think that there have been any infected in recent weeks.
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We still mask up here, when we go shopping especially. I still wear one at work having to work with kids, they are germ factories after all :o. I'm the only staff that still wears one, and only and a handful of kids are wearing one.
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U can't even say that you are starting a trend C.C. ::).
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That's true. The school teachers are masked, at least most of them are. There is no more social distancing and hand washing isn't monitored near as much as before. Now kids are absent sick with flu and colds ::)
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i haven’t worn a mask since we were told we didn’t have to and that was many months ago.
I know there was a lot of talk about whether they were any good and I honestly don’t believe they are.
I have many friends who have continued to wear them obsessively and still caught covid. A good friends husband has got up at 5 am all through the pandemic to go and do the weekly shop at 6am when the supermarket is very quiet wearing his mask of course and they both got it recently.
My aunt in Scotland got it and she has been like a prisoner in her own home since the start of the pandemic.
I still see people in filthy homemade masks and I still see people driving around in cars by themselves wearing masks and still wonder what goes on in their heads. >:(
I hear it’s now so mild that I can’t be worrying about it.
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I completely agree Pennyfarthing.
I see people wearing them in the car when they’re on their own!! X
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The reason we wear them in a car is to keep the glasses from misting up ;D
The death rate in Portugal continues to rise :'(, our Press hasn't picked that up have they!
One doesn't know what others are doing regarding masks, i.e. those who 'wear them all the while'. MayB they have not been washing their hands? It's in the air in the main as all viruses are. When I grab a trolley I wonder if the virus is on the handles >:(
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Each to their own. We don't know their reasons so why criticise, unless you're worried they're criticising you for not wearing one?
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What annoys me is when non-masking wearing people reach across me in a store >:(. I need to learn to growl, loudly ;D or wear stilettos?
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Even before the pandemic,I hated when people coughed all over the place without so much as covering their mouth,bugs me even more these days.
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Yep.
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fantastic news today! Went to our medical Practice and masks no longer have to be worn from today! As soon as we went in I saw the receptionists weren’t wearing theirs so we didn’t put ours on and a nurse told us we didn’t have to. 👏👏
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Great news indeed! I especially hated seeing young children being forced to wear them. xx
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fantastic news today! Went to our medical Practice and masks no longer have to be worn from today! As soon as we went in I saw the receptionists weren’t wearing theirs so we didn’t put ours on and a nurse told us we didn’t have to. 👏👏
Here we are close to the mask mandate being lifted by the provincial govt for medical buildings, public transit, and LTC. But, the bigger hospitals in the city are going to keep the masking mandatory. The doctors don't think its a good idea just yet.
My supervisor has been going without a mask for a few weeks now (I'm still wearing it) but she came into the school this morning wearing one. She said her son and daughter and their partners went to a huge concert with over 30,000 people, all unmasked and now her kids are sick. They both tested negative but they are experiencing some covid sympttoms. :-\
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I went to Stafford hospital yesterday and there were plenty of maskless people. Nobody cared.
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Was at hospital on Monday but EVERYONE was wearing one 🤷♀️
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What annoys me is when non-masking wearing people reach across me in a store >:(. I need to learn to growl, loudly ;D or wear stilettos?
That always has annoyed me, and always will. There's no reason for people to invade others personal space, when being patient for a minute would yield the same result. It's not like they need the item so urgently.
The other thing that annoys me is people judging others for their choices to wear a mask, as it reallyu doesn't affect them in any way. >:(
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I agree getting old, if people feel safer wearing them that’s up to them.
But I take great exception to children being bought up in a fearful way.
Most of us are approaching or are already in our twilight years and therefore , understandably, some will want to take more care.
But our children are not to be sacrificed for the sake of us. That’s only my opinion and I will fight for every individual to choose what’s right for them according to their own circumstances. X
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I agree getting old, if people feel safer wearing them that’s up to them.
But I take great exception to children being bought up in a fearful way.
Most of us are approaching or are already in our twilight years and therefore , understandably, some will want to take more care.
But our children are not to be sacrificed for the sake of us. That’s only my opinion and I will fight for every individual to choose what’s right for them according to their own circumstances. X
What I find interesting, at least with the children I know, is that they aren't viewing the masks negatively. Maybe it's just how their parents have approached things but the ones I know (ages 8 - 14) aren't fearful in any way. They are actually quite blase about mask wearing, and just see it as normal that they put a mask on sometimes. I think it's because their parents haven't made a big deal about it.
Do you actually know children who are being brought up in a fearful way, as honestly I don't think I do. I have seen people talk about children suffering social anxiety as they haven't been in school, but again the children I know seem to have adapted to being around others now.
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I think that because parents were caught on the hop with regards keeping children from school, adult anxiety filtered down. None of us knew where this Virus was taking the World plus there is so much accessible news across all age groups.
Then as the World opened up, schools were taking children/not which caused problems for carers/parents to get child care ......... = more anxiety.
Certainly the majority of children locally seem OK. Watching them going to school, some wear their masks with others that don't, some carry them ...... Those that could accept ZOOM teaching probably felt better than those low-income families without access to more than 1 computer, I remember companies stepping in to provide laptops etc. as well as teachers taking food parcels to those in need.
Children are in general more resilient than adults, if those adults are calm about situations. I think many problems stem from adults not explaining clearly and calmly. They are more connected: when we were in school we didn't see each other until the next day or Mondays ......... we didn't have a home phone for example.
I love my mask ;D
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I mean, they have actually done studies on the affects in children. I don’t know what people think anxiety in kids is meant to look like when they walk around, how would you know if they’re ok or not? Yes I’m sure adult anxiety affects kids but it would be hard not to feel anxious about the whole thing, including the affects of school shut downs on our kids. We spend so much time on the forum understanding anxiety, it’s surely understandable during this pandemic that people get anxious, including children. Considering half of us have anxiety anyway, none of it surprises me. The worst impact on children though is not the masks, it’s the at-risk children who were locked in with their abusers.
I love not wearing masks! Each to their own :)
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On an aside about the affects on mask wearing on children.
My grandchildren live in the USA. They have had to wear masks at a very young age. My granddaughter started school wearing a mask. We think she might be on the autistic spectrum. Her comments were that wearing a mask meant that she didn’t have to smile if she didn’t want to and she was relieved that children weren’t allowed to cuddle! School had to start as part time in small bubbles and the rest of the week was home learning. For her, it helped ease her into school, which she now loves and she has lots of friends. So not all bad! My grandson is just 4. Masking wearing was normal for him. He didn’t know any better. Everyone else wore a mask and his had dinosaurs on it!
I think it is more of an issue for older children, who are very aware of why they are wearing masks, just as we were aware of the possibility of nuclear attack during the Cold War. I had a friend who was terrified and had nightmares. We can’t protect older children from knowing about all the awful things that happen. Parents can only be there to listen, hear and discuss their fears.
As to wearing a mask, it is something we can do to protect others and maybe ourselves when levels of infection are high. I’m relieved that I don’t have to wear one at the moment, as I found it added to breathing difficulties, but I did when I had to. However, I now have several boxes of masks, gloves etc that I rescued from my mother’s house before we got the house clearance in! Hopefully we won’t need them!
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fantastic news today! Went to our medical Practice and masks no longer have to be worn from today! As soon as we went in I saw the receptionists weren’t wearing theirs so we didn’t put ours on and a nurse told us we didn’t have to. 👏👏
I had a hospital appt. last week and still had to wear a mask throughout the appointment. The consultant had one on so I felt I had to keep mine on. There were 2 patients without masks in the waiting area but maybe they had exemptions.
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I had my eye test this week: apparently I have the eyes of a 25 year old - as a friend promptly said, "Didn't they want them then?"
We were all wearing masks. It's close contact after all.
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I am back from my holiday and have covid. I think I picked it up the day before we went when a masked former neighbour hugged me. She is just like that! She said she had covid but thought she was over it.
She had been to a large event and knew loads of people who afterwards had covid.
The staff in the hotel all wore masks but many had their noses uncovered.
We only developed very dry throats 2 days before we came home and only at night so we thought it was the air con.
Feels like flu but hopefully won’t go on too long.
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There's a lesson in crowded places. Many have been affected following the Jubilee celebrations .........
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Alton towers and other such places have been open, busy and crowded for months and months, no masks, no distancing. The jubilee won’t have changed much considering.
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Totally different situations, Theme Parks, Zoos to close encounters as shown on TV. Also charting those now becoming infected that were socialising during those Jubilee events. It's all helpful with regards Research.
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No they’re pretty close at theme parks, especially in the queues, and not always outdoors as most of jubilee large events were. As we know it’s close contact in our homes for extended periods that’s been more of a source of spread, which I guess must have happened a lot more during the holiday weekend.
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Many members of the public now infected were at large outdoor events.
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I’m sure some were yes. But rates are rising across Europe and in the US as well.
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I think the rising rates are of a much milder variant aren't they? I've stopped reading about Covid tbh,think we've all had our fair share :-\
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Yes we have indeed!
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I went to our surgery yesterday and didn’t realise I needed a mask again! We’ve only had a couple of weeks not wearing them. The look I got from the receptionist when I apologised for not having a mask!!
The receptionists are behind perspex screens anyway and it is just a very small practice.
Still seeing lone people driving around in their cars wearing masks. I will never, ever understand that one.
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Because PF it's easier if 1 is getting in and out to keep a mask on, lessens the need to touch each time. They may be care workers between Clients. Or like me, going into shop after shop after .......
The twice I've not worn mine I've felt very vulnerable :-\. I try to match masks with coloured socks ;). Many Health Authorities are reintroducing the necessity and a few across England have declared states of emergency to a bed shortage :'(. 12 hour wait at some A&E Depts.
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Here the province has announced anyone over the age of 18 can now get their 4th shot (2nd booster). However, in the fall there will be a new bivalent vaccine that will combat the older strains plus the new more transmissible B.A.5 strain that is running rampant now. I have also noticed more people are starting back to wearing masks in the grocery stores. I haven't been wearing a mask since I finished work and I've been ok with that. I have a feeling a mask mandate might be in place when the kids go back to school.
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I'm back to wearing mine but only because we need to have a negative lateral flow the day before we go on our cruise,think I was the only one wearing one in Tesco ???
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Because PF it's easier if 1 is getting in and out to keep a mask on, lessens the need to touch each time. They may be care workers between Clients. Or like me, going into shop after shop after .......
The twice I've not worn mine I've felt very vulnerable :-\. I try to match masks with coloured socks ;). Many Health Authorities are reintroducing the necessity and a few across England have declared states of emergency to a bed shortage :'(. 12 hour wait at some A&E Depts.
Most of them are too old to be careworkers. ;D
i haven’t heard anything about state of emergency due to covid. It’s only like a bad cold.we all got it.
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Still seeing lone people driving around in their cars wearing masks. I will never, ever understand that one.
I do this because it saves the faff of taking it off and putting it back on if I'm visiting a few different shops etc. I always get my earrings caught up ;D
It didn't sound like a bad cold when you had it PF. Think you were in bed for a few days?. I certainly don't feel like it's a cold. Day 10 now and still positive and feeling very exhausted still.
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Because PF it's easier if 1 is getting in and out to keep a mask on, lessens the need to touch each time. They may be care workers between Clients. Or like me, going into shop after shop after .......
The twice I've not worn mine I've felt very vulnerable :-\. I try to match masks with coloured socks ;). Many Health Authorities are reintroducing the necessity and a few across England have declared states of emergency to a bed shortage :'(. 12 hour wait at some A&E Depts.
Most of them are too old to be careworkers. ;D
i haven’t heard anything about state of emergency due to covid. It’s only like a bad cold.we all got it.
I'll tell that to the guy whose wife went into hospital last week with it, and died from it a few days later.
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Unfortunately colds, flu, viruses, can all inflict worse outcomes on the old and more vulnerable among us.
Covid is no different.
In the past society understood this and almost without awareness we took preventative measures to lessen the impact.
At the same time, the young were able to mix freely and build up natural immunity to infections and viruses.
This is key, and I’m more than willing for the younger generations continue as we always have done. x
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I've not caught C-19. I don't mix much and when I do, it's on with the matching socks and mask ::)
It's the same virus as the common cold but potent i.e. Millions have died due to it because immune systems weren't ready. Any1 who walks around with seasonal 'flu doesn't have flu!
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Unless you’re testing weekly, which would be a huge waste of resources, you won’t know if you’ve had it for sure unless you got symptoms, most people are asymptomatic. Marchlove, you are of course right with regards to how society has accepted that viruses will affect the elderly or sick much worse and that is something about life we must and have accepted until recently. The difference with covid is the way it spreads like a cold but is as potent as other flu strains. It’s the speed of spread that caught us out. I’ve had much worse flu experiences, even when in my twenties, than the two times I’ve had covid. More could be done by helping people stay healthy in the first place, preventative healthcare is not a top priority for any government and it ought to be. My husband was overweight when the covid pandemic started and it was the wake-up call he needed. He joined our child and I with our exercise routines and is now really fit and is a very healthy weight and his bloodwork, cholesterol etc is excellent. More people should of taken the opportunity of lockdown to focus on their health. Taking a jab and wearing a mask are easy things to do, but being a healthy weight is way more important IMO.
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Because PF it's easier if 1 is getting in and out to keep a mask on, lessens the need to touch each time. They may be care workers between Clients. Or like me, going into shop after shop after .......
The twice I've not worn mine I've felt very vulnerable :-\. I try to match masks with coloured socks ;). Many Health Authorities are reintroducing the necessity and a few across England have declared states of emergency to a bed shortage :'(. 12 hour wait at some A&E Depts.
Most of them are too old to be careworkers. ;D
i haven’t heard anything about state of emergency due to covid. It’s only like a bad cold.we all got it.
I'll tell that to the guy whose wife went into hospital last week with it, and died from it a few days later.
My daughter’s partner’s Dad died last month following his covid injection. People are dying from all sorts of things sadly all the time.
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If we were to dwell on the number of deaths year in year out,we would be a very depressed nation,yes,death is very VERY sad but fact is,over half a million people die in this country every year,Covid is just one more thing we have to dodge
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Did he die as a direct result or due to underlying conditions?
Dodge - great phrase. Dodging people isn't difficult ;). Dodging Germs is harder ::)
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I’ve noticed more people wearing masks in the last week or so
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Because PF it's easier if 1 is getting in and out to keep a mask on, lessens the need to touch each time. They may be care workers between Clients. Or like me, going into shop after shop after .......
The twice I've not worn mine I've felt very vulnerable :-\. I try to match masks with coloured socks ;). Many Health Authorities are reintroducing the necessity and a few across England have declared states of emergency to a bed shortage :'(. 12 hour wait at some A&E Depts.
Most of them are too old to be careworkers. ;D
i haven’t heard anything about state of emergency due to covid. It’s only like a bad cold.we all got it.
I'll tell that to the guy whose wife went into hospital last week with it, and died from it a few days later.
My daughter’s partner’s Dad died last month following his covid injection. People are dying from all sorts of things sadly all the time.
I was merely pointing out that it's not only a bad cold for some people. I know a lot of people, all very healthy, who have been extremely ill with all of the different variants.
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Unless you’re testing weekly, which would be a huge waste of resources, you won’t know if you’ve had it for sure unless you got symptoms, most people are asymptomatic. Marchlove, you are of course right with regards to how society has accepted that viruses will affect the elderly or sick much worse and that is something about life we must and have accepted until recently. The difference with covid is the way it spreads like a cold but is as potent as other flu strains. It’s the speed of spread that caught us out. I’ve had much worse flu experiences, even when in my twenties, than the two times I’ve had covid. More could be done by helping people stay healthy in the first place, preventative healthcare is not a top priority for any government and it ought to be. My husband was overweight when the covid pandemic started and it was the wake-up call he needed. He joined our child and I with our exercise routines and is now really fit and is a very healthy weight and his bloodwork, cholesterol etc is excellent. More people should of taken the opportunity of lockdown to focus on their health. Taking a jab and wearing a mask are easy things to do, but being a healthy weight is way more important IMO.
So many healthy people have been really ill with it so being skinny doesn't mean you won't catch it, nor does it mean you won't be one of the people who are badly affected or affected long term.
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It’s not a guarantee, obviously, it’s about risk and it’s very clearly affecting those who are overweight more, as does a lot of diseases like heart disease and diabetes etc
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Still seeing lone people driving around in their cars wearing masks. I will never, ever understand that one.
They're doing it because they know it confuses you ;D
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Because PF it's easier if 1 is getting in and out to keep a mask on, lessens the need to touch each time. They may be care workers between Clients. Or like me, going into shop after shop after .......
The twice I've not worn mine I've felt very vulnerable :-\. I try to match masks with coloured socks ;). Many Health Authorities are reintroducing the necessity and a few across England have declared states of emergency to a bed shortage :'(. 12 hour wait at some A&E Depts.
Most of them are too old to be careworkers. ;D
i haven’t heard anything about state of emergency due to covid. It’s only like a bad cold.we all got it.
I'll tell that to the guy whose wife went into hospital last week with it, and died from it a few days later.
My daughter’s partner’s Dad died last month following his covid injection. People are dying from all sorts of things sadly all the time.
I was merely pointing out that it's not only a bad cold for some people. I know a lot of people, all very healthy, who have been extremely ill with all of the different variants.
It’s like any illness or disease, it’s the luck of the draw. My Mum had bowel cancer twice, major surgery and lived for another 25 years until nearly 97. My friend died at 51 from bowel cancer.
I have many friends who have had breast cancer, had surgery and treatment and are still going strong many years later. Others have sadly not had long at all.
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I'm just back from A&E due to having a rapid heart rate all day. Usually mine is 64 but it didn't drop below 115. All bloods and ECG ok. Still covid positive on day 11. Hospital doctor thinks it was covid making a hopefully last stand.
It's interesting re the weight thing. I'm not overweight and have had a not very nice experience with Covid but my partner is 4 stone overweight and recovered much faster testing negative on day 8. He is 65 though against my 68.
Taz x
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Hope you feel better soon.
This is a good UK study on 6.9 million people, which improves on smaller studies at the start of the pandemic, showing those with a higher BMI have a higher risk of more severe covid. You’ll always find examples of people who don’t necessarily prove that but they need to study large populations to give official scientific advice and factually accurate information and guidance to the public, whether that’s about masks or body weight:
https://evidence.nihr.ac.uk/alert/excess-weight-increases-risks-of-severe-covid-19/
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Thanks ATB. Its interesting that it says that covid has more impact on people in their 40s and 50s with a high BMI - if I've understood it properly. Lots to read there. Will have a proper look tomorrow. Hopefully I'll get a negative test soon!
Taz x :)
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We went for a walk along the seafront yesterday. It was glorious. We sat and had an icecream on the prom beside a few tables and chairs a little cafe had put out. A couple about our age came along in masks ….. well he was fully covered and she had her nose uncovered. They sat down in the lovely sea air and sunshine wearing their masks. their milkshakes arrived so they removed their masks, drank up and put their masks back on. We all said surely the fresh air would do them more good than breathing in and out through homemade masks. It was a very quiet area too.
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It may look strange but if you are still testing positive after ten days (me) you are advised to wear a mask when around people just in case you are sat near an immuno-supressed person even outside. Masks are to protect others not yourself. It's a nuisance but I'd hate to pass this on to anyone. Not that I can muster the energy to go out yet!
Taz x
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The Health Authority at Kettering, Northampton and some other English Hospitals are requesting the use of masks for staff, patients and visitors as from last Tuesday. Admissions are rising and with the threatened possible death rate with the heat next week, they are being prepared: they don't want Covid if they are dealing with heat stroke cases.
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The really good news, so we don’t unnecessarily worry people, is that compared to this time last year the number of patients in ICU beds ‘with’ and not necessarily because of covid, is a quarter of what it was then. We should also be happy to hear they think it’s peaked and numbers are stalling. I’m hoping all the coverage of the heat wave to make sure we take it seriously means people do, and we don’t get too many casualties. Im staying in until Wednesday!
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Numbers aren't stalling across Northants., Corby has and it remains the highest 'point' of C-19 cases ......... hence the requirement for masks. Norfolk has problems too.
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It may look strange but if you are still testing positive after ten days (me) you are advised to wear a mask when around people just in case you are sat near an immuno-supressed person even outside. Masks are to protect others not yourself. It's a nuisance but I'd hate to pass this on to anyone. Not that I can muster the energy to go out yet!
Taz x
But surely not on a very quiet seafront surrounded by fresh air. We sat in the shade and I should think the nearest people to them were easily 15ft away.
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Numbers aren't stalling across Northants., Corby has and it remains the highest 'point' of C-19 cases ......... hence the requirement for masks. Norfolk has problems too.
News to me, I live in Norfolk and haven’t heard.
How can they even say anything about an increase or decrease since we no longer have to test for covid nor report the results?
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Just maybe being extra cautious. We just don't know how far particles do spread it seems to me. This new variant is so infectious and so good at evading vaccines. I'm hoping to have a negative result soon. I'm even less inclined to go to gigs etc now I know how it can make you feel. Don't want to get it again. Strange times we live in!
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Numbers aren't stalling across Northants., Corby has and it remains the highest 'point' of C-19 cases ......... hence the requirement for masks. Norfolk has problems too.
News to me, I live in Norfolk and haven’t heard.
How can they even say anything about an increase or decrease since we no longer have to test for covid nor report the results?
The same way the information has always been collected as part of the Infection Survey. https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2022/07/04/the-covid-19-infection-survey-is-changing-what-does-this-mean-for-how-the-uk-monitors-the-virus/
Taz x
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Also by those being admitted to Hospital due to or with C-19 across England.
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I've checked out the ONS survey and it doesn't give numbers for individual counties, only UK countries. I have no Idea what the infection rate is in our county.
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Will try to find the link for you Aprilflower
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You can put your postcode in on this link I think. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map/cases
Taz x
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Thanks for that.
The data is not as accessable as it used to be though.
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No, since the rule was relaxed about testing it's not seen as necessary but with the BA.4 and 5 making its presence felt maybe it will change again. I'm a statistic now having had a PCR test in A&E despite telling them I was already covid positive. :)
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Numbers aren't stalling across Northants., Corby has and it remains the highest 'point' of C-19 cases ......... hence the requirement for masks. Norfolk has problems too.
News to me, I live in Norfolk and haven’t heard.
How can they even say anything about an increase or decrease since we no longer have to test for covid nor report the results?
The same way the information has always been collected as part of the Infection Survey. https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2022/07/04/the-covid-19-infection-survey-is-changing-what-does-this-mean-for-how-the-uk-monitors-the-virus/
Taz x
That makes no sense Taz. i know literally hundreds of people (as friends, ex colleagues and in our village which is one of the largest in The county) and as my husband runs a business he knows hundreds more. Covid is often the topic of conversation and neither of us has ever been told that someone has come to their house and tested them for covid.
When I took my covid test I reported my results as did my husband, but my son, daughter and her partner didn’t and there must be plenty of people who did likewise so the results can’t be that accurate anyway.
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Oh a Statitistic :medal: Taz - why in A&E ?
We have a pack of self test flow kits. There is a lot in the Sat press about how figures are calculated etc..
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I was sent in to A&E by my GP on Friday CLKD as my usual heart rate of 64 increased to 115 together with nausea and dizziness for hours. He said that what they've learnt with Covid, especially the new BA.4 and 5 is never to ignore unusual symptoms. It's back to normal now but I'm still testing positive.
Taz x
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My OH was at a course today and out of the 30 of them,he was the only one wearing a mask but as we need a negative Covid test on Saturday (for holiday) we'll be wearing ours every day,thing is,you never know why people are wearing them,could be so many reasons
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Oh Taz not nice >:(
I wear mine 'cos I've never conformed ;D. When people smoked, I couldn't be bothered ...... so never got drawn into drugs !!
I hadn't worn 1 a couple of weeks ago when in mixed company, albeit outside: last night I was poorly sick :-X. Nowt wrong with my sense of taste and smell.
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This is interesting.
https://twitter.com/COVID19actuary/status/1549046973008793601?t=QkBQ6GwM3sLeOpEc_6QrhA&s=19
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So it seems we all have to have the same opinion and if you say otherwise a sensitive soul on here decides to try and get me banned from the forum. Apparently my comments are offensive to them even though I have never said anything personal to anyone on here.
If I have offended this person to the extent that they feel they need to try and get me removed then I apologise but at the same time I am staggered that a mature woman can be so underhand. Why not just reply to me directly?
There is plenty of evidence that mask wearing is not effective.
When my Mum was dying during the pandemic I had to visit her in a care home wearing a mask and she didn’t recognise me and was very upset. It was all very cruel to our elderly people who hadn’t seen loved ones for months and were then confronted by “strangers” in masks which did no good at all when people are dying anyway.
That’s me done.
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How would you get to know that someone tried to 'get you banned' PF? Any PMs I am assured by Emma are confidential. 🤐 Interesting ....... off to ask Emma.
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There is also evidence that masks do protect others .......... which is why my GPs continue to wear masks as do the Pharmacists and many small shops continue to insist on the use of masks.
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I know it’s hard but try not to take it personally Pennyfarthing.
What are you off to ask Emma, CLKD?
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I can't see how your comments are offensive Penny,it's an opinion,surely our opinions are allowed to differ ? Don't worry about it,it's so not worth it
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ATB - who is asking ?
More and more HAs in England are asking for masks to be worn, if rates of admissions continue to rise relatives won't be allowed in to visit.
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Clearly Penny had someone report her to get a warning CLKD. Penny has merely shared her opinion. How sad that someone here decided she isn’t entitled to one that differs from their own.
Rates of admissions are slowing. Everyone has had to worry about this for too long. I don’t think any visiting restrictions will come back.
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Masking in a heatwave is a very bad idea anyway.
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It feels hotter to me this morning. Cool outside in the shade but my bedroom is an oven! I don’t know what I’d do without this little fan. I’m not going anywhere so no need for a mask anyway!
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It feels hotter to me this morning. Cool outside in the shade but my bedroom is an oven! I don’t know what I’d do without this little fan. I’m not going anywhere so no need for a mask anyway!
Know what you mean! we slept with the fan running all night. i have a water fan which I bought on a hippy market in Ibiza about 10 years ago. it has a container for cold water and a fan on top and is battery operated. It is brilliant.
Just off for a blood test because apparently they “mislabelled the vial” on my test last Wed. I will have to wear a mask at the surgery because they reintroduced them last week but I will only be in there a few mins and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste anyway. ;D
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ATB - who told PF that someone had raised issues, as PMs are private between members and cannot be read by others :-\
If masks don't work as a form of protection, why have medical staff worn them in theatres etc.? Also, Barrier Nursing seems to have gone to the wall, all this talk of PPE - why weren't Hospitals well stocked anyway? It is to protect others , not necessarily the wearer.
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If she posted here about it, it’s because the single moderator messaged her. Of course she’s not reading other peoples PMs. But the mod doesn’t read all the threads. You are contacted when there’s a complaint. I’m not sure why you’re contacting Emma about Penny’s warning?
The point is…. Can we all just accept and welcome different opinions? Nobody, especially Penny, was rude to anyone. It seems a bit mean to report Penny for sharing an opinion. We should all be allowed to share our opinions, nobody should be afraid to post theirs.
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Masks in theatre are quite different! That’s a clinical setting.
The reason there wasn’t enough PPE… complex but, we would all moan if they spent millions or even billions on huge amounts of PPE, which must be thrown out after a certain time, just in case. That’s really the problem. If they stockpile in the numbers needed for a pandemic at all times, we simply couldn’t afford to do so… but if they don’t, when we need it, it’s a big problem. These decisions are so difficult. I’m glad I don’t have to make them.
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A moderator should not ever tell members who has issued a concern. It's in the name : Private Messenger : there are tactful ways of 'discussing'.
I'm staying put this morning. Masks are in the wash, my excuse for not going anywhere ;-)
The governments of the day knew that a Pandemic was in the offing, discussions took place as early as 2014. PPE can be kept for years, in the event of a pandemic what's a few days out of date! How can PPE 'go off'. Certainly my sister, a Nurse, knew that any that was available was used - and they didn't have time to check 'use before dates'. During the pandemic we were in a 'clinical situation' ........
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Yeah of course in hospital it’s a clinical setting for those working there, with the right masks.
CLKD, Penny didn’t say she knew who. But it was from this thread. Not sure why you’re so incensed by it? If you complain about someone to the moderator, you have to know they’ll possibly be warned or messaged and they’ll know someone did it. It seems someone is quite busy reporting lately and it’s making others afraid to share their opinion. Wouldn’t it be nicer if none of us did that and we just allowed other opinions on masks or whatever it is? Penny wasn’t unkind to anyone and it isn’t nice to get a message implying you were.
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Thing with masks is,some folks wear them and probably always will but others,like myself don't wear them, I don't care if you DO wear one but I don't,yes I am just now but that's only til I pass a Covid test on Saturday,it's certainly not a topic we all need to fall out over,surely? X
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Completely agree Jaypo. I don’t wear one because I can’t and I resent mandates but I don’t care if others choose to. No need to for anyone to fall out on a forum at all IMO. Even if I get offended at the ableism about autism I see on here I don’t report it. I just have to suck it up.
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Where are you off to jaypo? :)
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Cruise to Norway Taz,us Scots like the cold ;D
ATB of course we ARE all Meno ;D
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A few friends have been on those cruises. Sounds just my sort of cruise being a Winter Person but isn't it around 25 degrees in the summer? ;D Have a great time and enjoy those long hours of daylight. Here's to a negative test!
Taz x
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Thanks Taz,you should try and go sometime,I can't even describe how stunning it is x
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Will U bring back ice ........ :whist: what's the mask protocol on board?
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Just to clarify …. Someone reported me and asked for me to be banned. I know not who. Emma messaged me the details. I did NOT get a warning and I did NOT get banned.
I read things on here that I do not agree with but I would NEVER email the moderator and ask for someone to be banned just because their opinions are different to mine. I am a moderator/admin on another site so I do know what’s involved.
I have been on here for many years without problems and, as others have said, what kind of site is it where we can’t voice our opinions?
Thank you to the people who have PMd me and said they did not find my posts offensive. 👍
I have been for my blood tests and put my mask on and waited with one other person. After a few minutes I could hardly breathe and as I have low blood pressure and am prone to fainting I decided I was safer without it so I took it off. Went in to the nurse and nothing was said.
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Penny, sounds like a legitimate medical reason not to wear one, which has always been allowed. Also just FYI, I mean a warning as in a message from a mod- it’s essentially a warning…. Otherwise why would they message? Anyway… try not to worry about it. The only reason someone should be banned is for spamming or threatening others, in my *opinion*!
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Penny, sounds like a legitimate medical reason not to wear one, which has always been allowed. Also just FYI, I mean a warning as in a message from a mod- it’s essentially a warning…. Otherwise why would they message? Anyway… try not to worry about it. The only reason someone should be banned is for spamming or threatening others, in my *opinion*!
On the site I am involved with we do actually head it WARNING.
Phew, just going out for lunch with a friend but sitting inside!
39c in our garden right now.
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Definitely feels hotter than yesterday!
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"Emma messaged me the details" - which gives more information than is required, as well as being a breach of confidentiality. I also moderate a forum with 4 others ......
PF - the Nurse should have shown you how to wear a mask correctly so that you don't feel threatened. All of mine allow me to breath in and out without problems apart from the 1 that isn't made of cotton. It has taken practice and occasionally I have to remove mine for a deep breath, but very rarely been worried by it.
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There are many people that can’t wear masks CLKD, and mask exemptions exist for that reason. We should be understanding of this and not deny that these medical reasons exist or persist. Anxiety is a valid reason. Everyone is different, some people just can’t wear them.
As for ‘Emma messaged me the details’, it is normal for members of any forum or social media to be told the action they took or words they wrote that led to moderator action, warning or whatever. So it is certainly not a breach of confidentiality to inform a member that there are complaints and what they are about. It’s normal and reasonable to tell the member what they did otherwise they can’t understand what they should do differently. Not that Penny did anything that deserves that in my opinion. At all.
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Thanks Taz,you should try and go sometime,I can't even describe how stunning it is x
It does sound tempting.
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It is a breach of confidentiality. One doesn't need to know why a moderator is making contact via PM. PMs should be private.
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Not if you report another member to a moderator. Your complaint and not your name should be expected to be shared. Otherwise what is the person being complained about meant to do? You need to know what you did wrong so you don’t get removed. The mod is entirely in the right to give information about the complaint if they want you to adapt your behaviour. This forum isn’t just for one or two people, so lots of opinions will be here and that’s just life! Let others have their opinions! It’s mean to deny others suffering with meno a space for support just because you don’t like what they said.
Anyway! Haven’t we talked about this enough? This is a cool space so let’s just enjoy how women come together to help each other. It’s such an important thing for women that this exists.
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Thanks Taz,you should try and go sometime,I can't even describe how stunning it is x
It does sound tempting.
Place in my suitcase Taz,not much though ;D
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Will U bring back ice ........ :whist: what's the mask protocol on board?
You've to wear a mask getting on and off ship,only because you are in close contact with the staff who look at your passes.
They said they'd prefer if people wore masks onboard but it is entirely up to the individual.
I doubt I'll wear mine,Cunard has small ships and plenty room for all.
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Will U bring back ice ........ :whist: what's the mask protocol on board?
You've to wear a mask getting on and off ship,only because you are in close contact with the staff who look at your passes.
They said they'd prefer if people wore masks onboard but it is entirely up to the individual.
I doubt I'll wear mine,Cunard has small ships and plenty room for all.
on my recent flights to and fro from Germany, the mask rule was enforced more strictly on the way back. As I walked up the ramp to board, my mask was in my hand and I was asked where it was. I was amused at the instructions for accessing oxygen in an emergency. We were told that we could remove the FFP2 mask to get oxygen but must then put it on again !
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It is a breach of confidentiality. One doesn't need to know why a moderator is making contact via PM. PMs should be private.
No it wasn’t a breach of confidentiality. She didn’t name the complainant.
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"Emma messaged me the details" - which gives more information than is required, as well as being a breach of confidentiality. I also moderate a forum with 4 others ......
PF - the Nurse should have shown you how to wear a mask correctly so that you don't feel threatened. All of mine allow me to breath in and out without problems apart from the 1 that isn't made of cotton. It has taken practice and occasionally I have to remove mine for a deep breath, but very rarely been worried by it.
The nurse wasn’t bothered that I wasn’t wearing a mask so why would she show me how to wear one? (I already know that having worn one for the many months it was mandatory). I didn’t feel “threatened” I felt like I was going to faint.
I imagine she would rather ignore the fact than having to treat me for fainting and then make herself late for other appointments.
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The Nurse Practitioner was wearing a mask this morning and patients are being asked to continue when in the Surgery. Staff remain behind glass/plastic but of course, we don't know how often these partitions are wiped ::) and Hospitals in my area are reintroducing masks for everyone on the premises as Covid admissions are rising. Several of these are people with Covid and no underlying conditions.