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Menopause Discussion => Personal Experiences => Topic started by: Kathleen on July 07, 2014, 02:40:39 PM

Title: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: Kathleen on July 07, 2014, 02:40:39 PM
Hello ladies.
I've been having various discussions with my husband and 21 year old son about forthcoming events and I made the point that I may not feel well enough to attend some ( all? ) of them. Now on the whole  they are understanding of my menopausal problems but it was clear that they don't realise that all these horrible feelings are generated internally and are not necessarily the result of something happening externally, if you see what I mean. For example I often feel jittery and on edge for no reason at all, a flush will suddenly  appear or I'm super irritable and I don't know why. These feelings are swirling about all the time and if I'm in an unfamiliar situation I worry about how I'll deal with them and that makes me panic. For example I am nervous about going to the hairdressers, not because that is a scary thing to do  but because I don't want to feel crap whilst I'm sitting there and I'm likely to feel crap at some point as I feel crap so often throughout the day!

I honestly believe that this is impossible to understand until it happens to you, so I forgive the simple menfolk for their ignorance but I've made sure my 24 year old daughter is very well informed!.

Wishing you all well ladies and a big hello to the newbies, keep posting.

K.
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: CLKD on July 07, 2014, 02:48:45 PM
It's the same with anything.  Unless someone has 'felt' sensations they can't understand.  It's important that everyone in the household is aware that you may not attend everything planned, it's your choice and you don't expect them to not go ……… saying 'no' does get easier  ;)
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: Joyce on July 07, 2014, 02:52:20 PM
I find son is more sympathetic than hubby. Not sure if it's an age thing or not.  I try explaining to hubby, but he admits he doesn't understand. Though he says men suffer too. Not sure if he means they suffer because of us or not?  ;)
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: CLKD on July 07, 2014, 04:45:29 PM
It's always 'well men suffer too'  >:( …….. that's not the issue is it. 
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: Limpy on July 07, 2014, 04:55:48 PM
It would be good if their "suffering" meant they had the faintest clue about the way we feel.
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: Tabbycat on July 07, 2014, 05:36:33 PM
Conversely, my OH seems to be having a sympathetic menopause - night sweats, insomnia, joint aches, anxiety... honestly, some days it's like we're competing for who's feeling the most rubbish!
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: Suzyq on July 07, 2014, 07:33:22 PM
Kathleen I understand completely how you feel, BUT it is really important to carry on with the normal things in life, including attending planned events! I spent a year avoiding stuff cause I felt so awful and was left almost at the point of agoraphobia. I now plan things and make myself do them (every day) no matter what! If I feel crap then I may as well be out than sitting at home on my own!

I don't mean to sound harsh, I truly do understand how hard it is - but push yourself! If you need a safeguard, in the way of ativan or diazepam then ask for a small supply from your gp! It does get easier and the more I deal with stuff while continuing on with life, the better I feel and the less I panic ....

Ps I read Claire weekes' book and another called feel the fear - they are great for helping you see that the jittery feelings etc. are as bad as it's gonna get - I have the same with palps, but now I just try to ignore them and carry on
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: CLKD on July 07, 2014, 08:17:35 PM
Suzyq - for me, neither Claire Weeks books nor 'feel the fear and do it anyway' seemed to have been written by anxiety sufferers  :'(.

If necessary I take medication to ease me through events that I have to attend.  But I no longer attend if I feel really ill nor do I attend to please others, not even DH.  Other people do not depend upon me for happiness and if I can't go well <shrug>. 

A little show of understanding helps.  A 'OK if you come, don't worry if you aren't able to, come for a short while' would go a long way to helping me go places knowing that not much is expected of me.  Fortunately DH has never nagged me  :-* ........  the issue here is that family members realise that sometimes we might agree to something but sometimes we might change our minds!

Tabbycat - may I giggle  :-X
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: jacquiellen on July 10, 2014, 08:01:32 AM
I agree, my husband has been really good as he pretty much gets my moaning or explaining or generally trying to work out the best thing to do with my symptoms on a daily basis and is patient really because I am pretty bored with it all I'm sure he must be but my grown up kids really don't understand at all and still think I can do all the things I did when I was a young mum.
Now they have children of their own expect me to have the same energy and patience as them and I just don't because I don't feel that good most of the time! Surpose that's why its called 'the change of life' and if it's not happening to them they are not interested in understanding I find.
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: Tabbycat on July 10, 2014, 01:04:44 PM
Tabbycat - may I giggle  :-X

Please do!
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: CLKD on July 10, 2014, 03:56:47 PM
Does he need the window open, covers off ……… however, hormones can spread in the air, remembering that when girls lodge together or Nuns in a Convent, they mainly menstruate at the same time!  So maybe ……….
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: Tabbycat on July 11, 2014, 08:24:28 AM
I won't bother telling him that...
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: CLKD on July 11, 2014, 11:50:03 AM
 ;D ……….. has he had his thyroid function tested recently  :-\
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: Tabbycat on July 11, 2014, 01:39:50 PM
A few years ago, yes, cos thyroid problems run in his family. He was fine, though.
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: CLKD on July 11, 2014, 06:47:28 PM
Time for a repeat blood test then!  a 'well man' clinic appt as sweating at night can be due to several illnesses which can require treatment!
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: Tabbycat on July 12, 2014, 10:21:06 AM
He's fine otherwise, and I really don't want to worry him any more at the moment (he's got enough to deal with supporting me!).

It doesn't help that it's July and muggy, and our two cats insist on cuddling up to him at night - oh, and I can't sleep with the window open cos I'm ultra sensitive to noise!
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: CLKD on July 12, 2014, 10:22:17 AM
Our cats loved to cuddle up too, regardless of the weather  ;D
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: Tabbycat on July 13, 2014, 10:00:00 AM
Okay, this is getting serious now...

When I woke up this morning, I asked my OH to remind me to go to the train station later to buy a season ticket (because my memory is rubbish at the moment and I need it for tomorrow morning).

A few minutes ago, he came downstairs saying, "Ooh, ooh, I've got to remind you to buy Halloumi."

???
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: Joyce on July 13, 2014, 11:50:05 AM
What part of season ticket/train station sounds like Halloumi?  ::) Ah well! By the way remember to buy your season ticket, just in case your OH forgets again.  :)
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: CLKD on July 13, 2014, 01:50:50 PM
 ::) ……… maybe put an alert on your mobile  :-\  ???
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: Tabbycat on July 13, 2014, 03:57:38 PM
Well, thanks to his deranged memory I remembered to get my ticket - although I had a CRAFT moment later in the day and forgot I'd remembered.

I can only think he got confused about the supermarket shopping I'd ordered.
Title: Re: Men, They Just Don't Get It, Do They!
Post by: CLKD on July 13, 2014, 07:23:04 PM
 :-\