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DESPERATE - HRT estrodial patches - depression and anxiety

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AmandaJR:
Hi KatieK, I’m sorry you’re really struggling but stick around here as members will help you.

This article might help, written by Dr John Studd, unfortunately he’d retired when I found him but his website has loads of info:
https://www.studd.co.uk/dep_hormones.php

Horrific anxiety started in peri for me, it was my biggest symptom along with gruelling insomnia. I took high dose oestrogen out of desperation after taking that link to my GP. It took between 4 to 6 months to shift anxiety totally and I’ve been able to reduce the dosage since with no issues.
Like you my anxiety wasn’t connected to my thinking, it was just there. I woke feeling like an axe man was at my front door.

I hope someone who knows more than me comments soon.

Sending hugs.

bombsh3ll:
I am sorry you are suffering so much.

Whilst I think that being on hormone therapy is a good idea for many reasons, no provider should ever tell you "this treatment or this dose will definitely get rid of your problem".

That's just not possible to know, and promising great results from the first or second thing you try is unrealistic and then leads to disappointment if it doesn't help, or not as much as you'd like.

That said, many women with severe psychological symptoms do respond really well to estrogen, particularly at higher doses, and testosterone also plays a role here as well.

I would suggest if you can afford it working with someone really experienced in female hormones in the context of mood disturbance.

Louise Newson is one, and someone has also mentioned professor Studd, the grandfather of UK menopause care who was an absolute legend - he has now passed away however his clinic in London is still being run by those who trained under his guidance, and they have a reputation for helping individuals with the severest of hormone related mood disorders and are definitely worth a look.

KatieK:
I totally agree re giving high hopes to a person who's suffering so terribly.  I think it was very unprofessional of her.

The specialist is keen for me to stick with the 100mcg estradiol patch, but try taking the progesterone vaginally to see if that might help.

I generally fall asleep ok but wake about 3/4am and can't get back to sleep, it's awful.  I take 80mg of prozac and lorazepam as needed.

I've ended up in respite, so am getting sleeping pills to try carry through the night and lorazepam during the day to try and rest as much as possible.  Evenings are generally more calm but as soon as I wake up, it's crushing depression or crippling anxiety that means I need to cry - often ill cry for hours.

CLKD:
Crying is a release.

Is the Prozac helping at all?   How often do you use the Lorazepam, I have a similar emergency drug which knocks me out.  Can't remember the dose but it isn't much.

I am a different person by evening to that of early morning.  Rest as much as U can.

KatieK:
Prozac hadn't helped depression or anxiety but I think it's kept my ocd at bay  I take lorazepam.  Mornings and most days are torturous but evenings I generally do better,? I've heard alot of ppl do the same

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