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Author Topic: HRT--good or bad?  (Read 484199 times)

Tiny

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #975 on: February 08, 2019, 02:23:24 AM »

Tried magnesium citrate iv tried so many things I also have a micro adenoma on my pituitary which endocrinologist is not concerned about just now but that regulates stress hormone I'm totally confused nothing seems to be working for me
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Ninaduff

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #976 on: February 09, 2019, 11:26:24 AM »

Hi All, Iím new on here  :) iím 51 next week and my periods have been scarce for a couple of years and have stopped since September last.. For years I have been suffering from depression, anxiety etc.. plus I have a severe case of Inflammatory Bowel Disease (Ulcerative Colitis) so have not been able to work for over 5 years.. Iím on a ridiculous amount of medication including 100mg Sertraline, amitriptyline, lorazepam plus IBD medication and suffer from
Asthma (otherwise Iím all good  8) ) Iím having the most horrendous day and night flushes and mood, anxiety real bad so my doctor put me on Evoril Sequi to try this Thursday to try for 3 months.. Strangely enough I had the best nights sleep on Thursday night with minimal sweats, but last night was awful  ??? Is this normal and does anyone think Iím risking my body taking HRT with my health problems? Feel so nervous about it all  :-\ Iíve been reading through this forum for a few days now, how brilliantly set up it is.. thank you in anticipation- Ninaduff
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Ninaduff

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #977 on: February 09, 2019, 02:44:07 PM »

Thanks for that Jaypo  :) its great to chat to people that understand  :) take care too
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Dancinggirl

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #978 on: February 10, 2019, 09:59:34 AM »

Ninaduff - Doubt very much that HRT will have a negative effect on your health issues - it may well help reduce them.  Finding the right HRT can be trial and error though so let us know how you get on with this HRT type.

It will take a few weeks or even months for the HRT to fully work itís magic but improvement in sleep can often kick in quite quickly.

I have IBD in my family - older sister has Crohns and younger sister has Ulcerative colitis ( younger sister is actually married to eminent gastroenterologist!).  I didnít have digestive problems until I stopped HRT - I now have to be very careful with my diet.   I had a premature menopause so used HRT for nearly 25 years and I think it helped to prevent many of the problems I am experiencing now. I do a lot of walking and Mindfulness which helps to keep anxiety and fatigue under control quite a bit. I do believe that yoga/Pilates and sensible exercise, like brisk walking, are really crucial to help cope with the menopause.
I hope things improve for you soon.  DG x
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Ninaduff

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #979 on: February 10, 2019, 11:28:58 AM »

Thanks so much for that Dancinggirl  :) my diet is very limited and I try to exercise as much as I can when not in too much pain.. Iím now on my third day and I have found Iím extremely tired and not slept that good the last 2 nights, still have horrendous sweats and serious gas which in turn effects the UC.. like you say it takes time for it to come into effect.. Iíll be patient  ::) thanks again 👍🏻 So good to chat  :)
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Joben

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #980 on: February 11, 2019, 04:23:43 PM »

Hello

can you advise how you get to the new members page to introduce yourself please
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Joaniepat

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #981 on: February 11, 2019, 04:30:26 PM »

Go to the main menu of the forum and scroll down to General Discussion and you will see the item New Members.
JP x
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Ninaduff

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #982 on: February 12, 2019, 08:49:03 AM »

Sorry about posting on the wrong page, Iíve now posted on new members page - thanks for advice
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Hoffgrad

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #983 on: March 25, 2019, 05:44:01 PM »

Hi everyone

It's been a while since I posted on here, and I was never a 'pro' anyway.   So.. apologies if this is on the wrong thread or whatever you call them.   As I say, I'm not that au fait with forums. 

I've been unwell recently... convinced it's hormonal (again).  I'm 58, had a TVH ten years ago and since then, I've been on Estradot and more recently oestrogel.  A year or so ago, after speaking to someone at the Oxford John Radcliffe menopause clinic, I was trialled on T Gel and prior to that, Tibolone.   Obviously we are all different and for me, Tibolone and T gel seemed to benefit in some ways, but what I found intolerable, was an increase in neck pain and insomnia that nothing seemed to be able to help.  Believe me, I was on a tiny amount.

I gave up on the T gel and carried on just using my oestrogel, and it's been over a year since any contact with the menopause clinic.  Recently I've had the most awful crash in energy and generally very unwell.  I've had all kinds of tests done by my GP and yes, thyroid is fine and everything else is 'normal'.   I feel convinced it's hormonal again.  Grrrr.   The specialist nurse at the clinic has left and I am due to have a telephone appointment with a Dr Barber, next week.  She asked me to have my bloods done, so she can see the results prior to our consultation. 

I've just had the blood test results and my oestradiol seems very low again, at 114.  Like all of you ladies on here, who are on HRT, I do my research too.  Obviously only invested in clinical facts.  It would appear that Dr Studd advises that post menopausal women do best if they are up to 800.  That seems very high (to me), but obviously I'm not the expert.  If ever I had tried to increase my oestrogen, by gel or patch, I get so much fluid retention and cellulite.  I'm usually very slim (always been) and so being unable to do up my clothes is unusual.   

Some doctors say that 'too much' oestrogen causes fluid retention, and some say 'not enough' does this.  Argh!!!! It really does drive  you mad, doesn't it? 

I"m also getting achy legs again, and it's mainly at night and when I wake up, that they hurt. 

Just wondered, those ladies who are using oestrogen only, and are post menopausal.... what do you find is your ideal dose?   I know, of course we are all different.   I wondering if i've been using too little for too long.   

Hope this is clear.  I'm usually very articulate, but I've got the old brain fog, badly today.

H xx
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Dancinggirl

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #984 on: March 25, 2019, 06:12:08 PM »

Hoffgrad - In my experience, HRT can only do os much.  Having said that, you are on a low dose and you oestrogen levels do seem very low.  The private gynaecologist I saw 2-3 years ago said he liked ladies to have a level between 400-600.

Sadly, whatever you do, fat seems to gather around the hips and tummy and I think this is just ageing - all very annoying.   

Iíve been off HRT for nearly 3 years (Iím 63 now, had a premature meno, so had HRT for roughly 25 years) and my legs often ache horribly at night, especially after Iíve had a bathroom trip to pee.

I personally donít think HRT can fix everything - itís a range of strategies that will help to tackle the horrible aging process.
I doubt think I will ever get a good nights sleep again, so I just have to pace myself - all rather depressing. I do Pilates, teach a community dance class, walk briskly with my dog for at least an hour a day and try to eat sensibly. 
I can really emphasise with you.

Have you had your Vitamin D level checked? DG x
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Hoffgrad

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #985 on: March 25, 2019, 09:33:51 PM »

Hi Dancinggirl

Yes, absolutely every blood test you can imagine.  Honestly... Iím completely replete I itís vitamin/minerals.    Iíve a background in nutrition and counselling, amongst other things, so Iím fine with all of that kind of thing. 

I was just interested to know who else had found they need more transdermal oestrogen (only), the longer they were in it. 

Iíve taken to keeping a spreadsheet (yep!), so I can keep a track of blood test results.   Three years ago, my estrogen was as low as 98!  Iíd been using only 25mcg Estradot patches for 6 years.   I was fine on that level, after my hysterectomy, but my needs had increased.  No wonder I was so unwell.  Iíd been diagnosed with CFS/ME after I collapsed.  I used to do a lot of exercise and Iíd returned from a bike race.  I normally would have been fine, but if I look back now, my GP had me tested for everything, including seeing a neurologist.... but there was never talk about hormone levels.   Not in GP in the practice had any clue about menopausal problems.  I hadnít been assessed since I left my amazing practice in Bristol, some years prior to moving.   They had a wellwoman clinic there. 

Itís very frustrating when you live in a rural community and thereís no support if youíre over 50.   It was only by chance that I discovered the John Radcliffe menopause clinic.  It wasnít suggested to me by my surgery, and I had to jump hoops to get to see someone there a year and a half ago. 

There was an amazing doctor called Annie Evans, in Bristol.  I met her years ago before she became involved as a menopause specialist.  Sadly, sheís retired now. 

Iím rambling ladies.... apologies.  Insomnia causes foggy brain. 

Itís just nice to hear others experiences.
Xx

I understand the biology, and what we Ďshouldí need, but as we all know, we are all different.  Thatís why Iím careful not to ask for advice on forums.   

Just wanting to gain others experiences.
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angie196543

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #986 on: May 08, 2019, 08:50:26 AM »

There's so much conflicting information these days about HRT. Tell us what you think--is it good or bad? My feeling is that for most people it's good when used appropriately and reviewed but here you can have your say!

This is my first day cold turkey, ive been on HRT since February and had terrible acid reflux ever since, the everol patches were semi ok but kept coming off then I changed to sandrina gel.  Ive been on this 2 half week and having awful heartburn and indigestion so ive decided nomore, The menopause is a natural process that we all go through so im going to treat whatever symptom comes along naturally.  Wish me luck...Ö. no symptoms yet but im only - 2 hours lol.  would love to hear from anyone going through the same so we can compare and share.
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AngieJL

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« Reply #987 on: May 21, 2019, 06:21:44 PM »

Hi Everyone.
Im new on here and reaching out for help before I flip  :-\
I was diagnosed menopausal just over a year ago.
I have tried various natural remedies including the lady magnet, that all worked for a short time which really isn't helpful.
I have had a hysterectomy, but still have my ovaries so my GP suggested HRT Zumenon 2mg as my night sweats are unbelievable.
I have been on this for 8 days now and the sweats are not only hindering my quality of sleep, almost zero, and now they have started during the day too. About a dozen during the day!
I feel like a complete zombie and disappointed that the sweats have increased instead of decreased.
How long should they take to settle this down? Is it normal for symptoms to get worse before getting better?
Im really struggling with this  so any advice is welcome ladies  ::)
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Dancinggirl

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« Reply #988 on: May 21, 2019, 06:31:38 PM »

Hi and welcome to mm

It can take 2-3 weeks for flushes to reduce but I am surprised that you are not seeing some imprint by now. You might do better with transdermal oestrogen and this can be via gel (Oestrogel applied daily) or patches ( Estrodot are the most popular as they stick better).
Have you had your thyroid checked? Thyroid function can become a problem at this time in our lives and can give similar symptoms as the menopause.
Look under TREATMENTS in the oestrogen section to see your options. DG x
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Sammiejane

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #989 on: May 22, 2019, 03:35:03 PM »

 Hi Iím new on here but wanted to share my experience and hope for some welcome advice.
I had adenoymeosis which is same as edemetriosis but contained in the womb and chronic pelvic pain underwent a total hysterectomy in 2014 and ovaries removal too as they couldnít guarantee the pain would go without taking ovaries out. Biggest mistake of my life if Iíd of known then what I have researched now I would of insisted my ovaries were kept regardless. After the operation and for a further 4 years I guess I was lucky as never experienced any effects of menopause other then a couple of hot flashes I till summer of 2018 everything changed and developed dampness in my knickers I thought prolapse but after investigations no prolapse and a year later still experiencing dampness but doesnít smell of urine and I donít feel urine coming out this is my first point Iíd like advice ?
Secondly is hairloss due to the above happening I thought maybe I should go on HrT I had tried it at the very start elleste solo 1mg but had bad side effects and worse hot flashes so stopped and went natural for 4 yrs but due to dampness I thought Iíd try again the same patch as before I was on it for 7 weeks and couldnít take no more same side effects as before so my GP told me to stop it , a week later I had my appointment with gynecologist ref dampness and suspected vaginal athropy so prescribed Vagifem however 7 weeks after stopping the HRT patch and starting Vagifem I lost half my hair volume where as the last 4 years had hair loss but normal amount I would say as my hair grew really quick and really thick so I thought initially it was the Vagifem and swapped that to ovestin which seem to calm the hair loss down a bit I guess. This all happened sept oct nov of 2018 on 25th December I started Estrogel 1 pump initially for 2 weeks then increased to 2 pumps - still loosing hair and would say even thinner and has lost it all behind my ears the hair line receded and nape of neck and back of the head from half way down it has gone really thin and I am sure it is the estrogen gel because I never had hair loss prior to messing about with HRT it is also red in the scalp in placed itchy and irritable I have been to dermatologist and he thinks telegen effluim but it is getting worse and worse I thought estrogen had a protective role on the hair but I donít know if the hair loss is happening because the estrogen is unopposed so therefore estrogen dominance as I donít take progesterone with having no uterus although they did say I could try Utrogestan 100mg every night if I wanted but it gives me stomach cramps which I could bear if it would help hair loss but then everyone says progesterone cause the hair loss but I believe estrogens do to especially after hysterectomy and ovary removal as your hormones are all at the same level when u have ovaries removed there is no fluctuation of hormones as in natural menopause they are all low so Iím wondering could estrogen be causing my hair loss but Iím scared now to stop it as it may make hairloss worse it is having a massive effect on my wellbeing as I donít know whatís caused it has anyone else experienced hair loss on estrogen only HRT ? I was 35 when ovaries removed am now 40 still very young to be going through this and for you ladies out there please get 2nd opinions and 3rd before removing ovaries as this has destroyed my life. Sam x 
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