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Bluenose

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #975 on: February 02, 2019, 08:46:20 PM »

Hi Bluenose & welcome to the forum.
Starting any new type of HRT can take up to 3 months to settle down & getting spotting / bleeding can happen.
There are several topics/threads on here that may help you.

https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,40380.msg640167.html#msg640167

https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,36345.msg585407.html#msg585407

I haven't read through all of them but hoping they may help you.

Introduce yourself on the new members section so that other members can welcome you.
Thank you so much for your help.

Cazikins
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Tiny

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #976 on: February 05, 2019, 07:06:52 PM »

I'm 45 and possibly peri menopausal the gp went by my symptoms hate the anxiety sleepless nights possibly fem seven patch is not for me I have asked gp they are now thinking of possibly changing it ,thyroid function was ok last time taken I'm waiting on further blood results taken last week periods were erratic I just can't seem to relax, thinking of joining a Pilates class it's like someone flicked a switch and changed me for the worst thanks for reply DG
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Birdy

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #977 on: February 05, 2019, 07:20:15 PM »

I'm 45 and possibly peri menopausal the gp went by my symptoms hate the anxiety sleepless nights possibly fem seven patch is not for me I have asked gp they are now thinking of possibly changing it ,thyroid function was ok last time taken I'm waiting on further blood results taken last week periods were erratic I just can't seem to relax, thinking of joining a Pilates class it's like someone flicked a switch and changed me for the worst thanks for reply DG

Try supplementing with plenty of magnesium. It helps us relax but when we are stressed we burn through it.
Try magnesium malate, taurate or threonate.
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Tiny

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #978 on: February 08, 2019, 02:23:24 AM »

Tried magnesium citrate iv tried so many things I also have a micro adenoma on my pituitary which endocrinologist is not concerned about just now but that regulates stress hormone I'm totally confused nothing seems to be working for me
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Ninaduff

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #979 on: February 09, 2019, 11:26:24 AM »

Hi All, Iím new on here  :) iím 51 next week and my periods have been scarce for a couple of years and have stopped since September last.. For years I have been suffering from depression, anxiety etc.. plus I have a severe case of Inflammatory Bowel Disease (Ulcerative Colitis) so have not been able to work for over 5 years.. Iím on a ridiculous amount of medication including 100mg Sertraline, amitriptyline, lorazepam plus IBD medication and suffer from
Asthma (otherwise Iím all good  8) ) Iím having the most horrendous day and night flushes and mood, anxiety real bad so my doctor put me on Evoril Sequi to try this Thursday to try for 3 months.. Strangely enough I had the best nights sleep on Thursday night with minimal sweats, but last night was awful  ??? Is this normal and does anyone think Iím risking my body taking HRT with my health problems? Feel so nervous about it all  :-\ Iíve been reading through this forum for a few days now, how brilliantly set up it is.. thank you in anticipation- Ninaduff
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jaypo

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #980 on: February 09, 2019, 11:33:25 AM »

Hi Nina,welcome to the forum,you should go to the new members section and introduce yourself there.
Sorry to hear about all your issues, I suffer with health anxiety as a lot of us do here,check out funny side of menopause and what weíve diagnosed ourselves with,it should make you literally lol
My daughter suffers from an ibd too,not great is it☹️
The night sweats are horrible,Iíve a big fan by my bed and an aircon unit too,bedroom like the arctic.
Anyway from one sweater to another,take care
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Ninaduff

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #981 on: February 09, 2019, 02:44:07 PM »

Thanks for that Jaypo  :) its great to chat to people that understand  :) take care too
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Dancinggirl

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #982 on: February 10, 2019, 09:59:34 AM »

Ninaduff - Doubt very much that HRT will have a negative effect on your health issues - it may well help reduce them.  Finding the right HRT can be trial and error though so let us know how you get on with this HRT type.

It will take a few weeks or even months for the HRT to fully work itís magic but improvement in sleep can often kick in quite quickly.

I have IBD in my family - older sister has Crohns and younger sister has Ulcerative colitis ( younger sister is actually married to eminent gastroenterologist!).  I didnít have digestive problems until I stopped HRT - I now have to be very careful with my diet.   I had a premature menopause so used HRT for nearly 25 years and I think it helped to prevent many of the problems I am experiencing now. I do a lot of walking and Mindfulness which helps to keep anxiety and fatigue under control quite a bit. I do believe that yoga/Pilates and sensible exercise, like brisk walking, are really crucial to help cope with the menopause.
I hope things improve for you soon.  DG x
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Ninaduff

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #983 on: February 10, 2019, 11:28:58 AM »

Thanks so much for that Dancinggirl  :) my diet is very limited and I try to exercise as much as I can when not in too much pain.. Iím now on my third day and I have found Iím extremely tired and not slept that good the last 2 nights, still have horrendous sweats and serious gas which in turn effects the UC.. like you say it takes time for it to come into effect.. Iíll be patient  ::) thanks again 👍🏻 So good to chat  :)
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Joben

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #984 on: February 11, 2019, 04:23:43 PM »

Hello

can you advise how you get to the new members page to introduce yourself please
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Joaniepat

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #985 on: February 11, 2019, 04:30:26 PM »

Go to the main menu of the forum and scroll down to General Discussion and you will see the item New Members.
JP x
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Ninaduff

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #986 on: February 12, 2019, 08:49:03 AM »

Sorry about posting on the wrong page, Iíve now posted on new members page - thanks for advice
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Hoffgrad

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #987 on: March 25, 2019, 05:44:01 PM »

Hi everyone

It's been a while since I posted on here, and I was never a 'pro' anyway.   So.. apologies if this is on the wrong thread or whatever you call them.   As I say, I'm not that au fait with forums. 

I've been unwell recently... convinced it's hormonal (again).  I'm 58, had a TVH ten years ago and since then, I've been on Estradot and more recently oestrogel.  A year or so ago, after speaking to someone at the Oxford John Radcliffe menopause clinic, I was trialled on T Gel and prior to that, Tibolone.   Obviously we are all different and for me, Tibolone and T gel seemed to benefit in some ways, but what I found intolerable, was an increase in neck pain and insomnia that nothing seemed to be able to help.  Believe me, I was on a tiny amount.

I gave up on the T gel and carried on just using my oestrogel, and it's been over a year since any contact with the menopause clinic.  Recently I've had the most awful crash in energy and generally very unwell.  I've had all kinds of tests done by my GP and yes, thyroid is fine and everything else is 'normal'.   I feel convinced it's hormonal again.  Grrrr.   The specialist nurse at the clinic has left and I am due to have a telephone appointment with a Dr Barber, next week.  She asked me to have my bloods done, so she can see the results prior to our consultation. 

I've just had the blood test results and my oestradiol seems very low again, at 114.  Like all of you ladies on here, who are on HRT, I do my research too.  Obviously only invested in clinical facts.  It would appear that Dr Studd advises that post menopausal women do best if they are up to 800.  That seems very high (to me), but obviously I'm not the expert.  If ever I had tried to increase my oestrogen, by gel or patch, I get so much fluid retention and cellulite.  I'm usually very slim (always been) and so being unable to do up my clothes is unusual.   

Some doctors say that 'too much' oestrogen causes fluid retention, and some say 'not enough' does this.  Argh!!!! It really does drive  you mad, doesn't it? 

I"m also getting achy legs again, and it's mainly at night and when I wake up, that they hurt. 

Just wondered, those ladies who are using oestrogen only, and are post menopausal.... what do you find is your ideal dose?   I know, of course we are all different.   I wondering if i've been using too little for too long.   

Hope this is clear.  I'm usually very articulate, but I've got the old brain fog, badly today.

H xx
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Dancinggirl

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #988 on: March 25, 2019, 06:12:08 PM »

Hoffgrad - In my experience, HRT can only do os much.  Having said that, you are on a low dose and you oestrogen levels do seem very low.  The private gynaecologist I saw 2-3 years ago said he liked ladies to have a level between 400-600.

Sadly, whatever you do, fat seems to gather around the hips and tummy and I think this is just ageing - all very annoying.   

Iíve been off HRT for nearly 3 years (Iím 63 now, had a premature meno, so had HRT for roughly 25 years) and my legs often ache horribly at night, especially after Iíve had a bathroom trip to pee.

I personally donít think HRT can fix everything - itís a range of strategies that will help to tackle the horrible aging process.
I doubt think I will ever get a good nights sleep again, so I just have to pace myself - all rather depressing. I do Pilates, teach a community dance class, walk briskly with my dog for at least an hour a day and try to eat sensibly. 
I can really emphasise with you.

Have you had your Vitamin D level checked? DG x
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Hoffgrad

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #989 on: March 25, 2019, 09:33:51 PM »

Hi Dancinggirl

Yes, absolutely every blood test you can imagine.  Honestly... Iím completely replete I itís vitamin/minerals.    Iíve a background in nutrition and counselling, amongst other things, so Iím fine with all of that kind of thing. 

I was just interested to know who else had found they need more transdermal oestrogen (only), the longer they were in it. 

Iíve taken to keeping a spreadsheet (yep!), so I can keep a track of blood test results.   Three years ago, my estrogen was as low as 98!  Iíd been using only 25mcg Estradot patches for 6 years.   I was fine on that level, after my hysterectomy, but my needs had increased.  No wonder I was so unwell.  Iíd been diagnosed with CFS/ME after I collapsed.  I used to do a lot of exercise and Iíd returned from a bike race.  I normally would have been fine, but if I look back now, my GP had me tested for everything, including seeing a neurologist.... but there was never talk about hormone levels.   Not in GP in the practice had any clue about menopausal problems.  I hadnít been assessed since I left my amazing practice in Bristol, some years prior to moving.   They had a wellwoman clinic there. 

Itís very frustrating when you live in a rural community and thereís no support if youíre over 50.   It was only by chance that I discovered the John Radcliffe menopause clinic.  It wasnít suggested to me by my surgery, and I had to jump hoops to get to see someone there a year and a half ago. 

There was an amazing doctor called Annie Evans, in Bristol.  I met her years ago before she became involved as a menopause specialist.  Sadly, sheís retired now. 

Iím rambling ladies.... apologies.  Insomnia causes foggy brain. 

Itís just nice to hear others experiences.
Xx

I understand the biology, and what we Ďshouldí need, but as we all know, we are all different.  Thatís why Iím careful not to ask for advice on forums.   

Just wanting to gain others experiences.
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