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Binks

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #930 on: June 15, 2018, 10:35:43 PM »

Thanks dancing girl

No thanks to any gp though, I spent 6 years complaining of joint pain , was incorrectly diagnosed by osteo specialist as having osteo arthritis ... then I noticed that whenever my periods ‘re started ‘ my joints got temp better ... I noted this pattern , did my own research and asked for oestrogen from gp .

Progesterone has been a different matter . Without any suitable advice from gp as I can barely stay awake when taking prog and tried all forms , have put myself on 12 days every three months (200mg utrogestan ) with one pump oestrogen gel. Am 5 days into first 12 days in utrogestan and fining if very hard , can barely cope at work , am now I'll with sore throat .
I really wish I could get medical advice but no dr seems to know . I just hope I don't get cancer due to their lack of knowledge
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Daisydot

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« Reply #931 on: June 15, 2018, 10:44:36 PM »

Hi Binks have you looked into the mirena coil for progesterone and you could use the oestrogel pump system along with it tailoring your dose to suit.that seems to have a good success rate and I'm sure someone else will add some advice on it as I have limited knowledge I'm oestrogel only.are you also making sure you use v.a treatments so it doesn't creep up on you.vagifem has been excellent for me and next week I'm going to try the estring with rather than putting pessaries or cream in nightly this estring stays active in the vag for 3 months slowly releasing the product as the body requires it.x
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Dancinggirl

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Re: HRT--good or bad?
« Reply #932 on: June 16, 2018, 06:50:03 AM »

Daisydot is right, the Mirena May be wirth trying. You do get a hit of progesterone initially after it is fitted but after a few weeks less is absorbed systemically and it usually results in little or no bleeding at all which can be a big plus.  You simply use the gel alongside and you can increase the amount if you need to without risk to your womb.
The other thing worth trying is to use Utrogestan vaginally. DG x
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Traceylr

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« Reply #933 on: June 17, 2018, 02:20:59 PM »

Hi all,
This is my first posting here. Finding all the info fabulous and very helpfull. Been on my hrt journey for 2 years and have now finally found a hrt combination that is working for me.
I am currently taking estradot 50mcg patch bi weekly plus utrogestan 100mgs vaginally every day.
I finally feel great  :)  :)
Just want to encourage others to persivere I have also found some very interesting research article ( but dont know how to embed them on my post).
If i can work out how to send pms will gladly give up the info.
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Kerrie

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« Reply #934 on: June 20, 2018, 06:30:08 PM »

Did anyone have like flu /sore throat when first taking hrt patches?
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Dancinggirl

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« Reply #935 on: June 21, 2018, 05:27:09 PM »

Hi Kerrie - you have a virus - HRT won't give you a sore throat. DG x
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SueLW

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« Reply #936 on: June 23, 2018, 05:11:31 PM »

I am currently taking estradot 50mcg patch bi weekly plus utrogestan 100mgs vaginally every day.
I finally feel great  :)  :)

Am I understanding this right, you are using just 1 50 patch every fortnight?  You must have many days with no patch at all then?

I'm glad you feel great, but puzzled as to what you are doing.
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Dotty

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« Reply #937 on: June 23, 2018, 05:27:45 PM »

I think she means she uses 2 a week.
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CLKD

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« Reply #938 on: June 23, 2018, 06:31:09 PM »

>wave< Kerrie, hope that you are still reading?!?   - when I began tamoxifen in June 1995 after breast surgery within 36 hours I felt as though I had the 'flu.  Aches.  Hot.  Cold.  Shivery.  The drug made me really ill, after 4 months I stopped taking it.
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sofasurfer

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« Reply #939 on: July 06, 2018, 08:31:50 PM »

Thanks dancing girl

No thanks to any gp though, I spent 6 years complaining of joint pain , was incorrectly diagnosed by osteo specialist as having osteo arthritis ... then I noticed that whenever my periods ‘re started ‘ my joints got temp better ... I noted this pattern , did my own research and asked for oestrogen from gp .

Progesterone has been a different matter . Without any suitable advice from gp as I can barely stay awake when taking prog and tried all forms , have put myself on 12 days every three months (200mg utrogestan ) with one pump oestrogen gel. Am 5 days into first 12 days in utrogestan and fining if very hard , can barely cope at work , am now I'll with sore throat .
I really wish I could get medical advice but no dr seems to know . I just hope I don't get cancer due to their lack of knowledge
Funny that. You'd think meno has been around since the dawn of time and dr don't seems to know the symptoms?
I've experienced the same. Do you know the reason why? Meno isn't profitable. Cancer is. Another common thing, if you mention pain, they are so quick to prescribe anti-depressant. In the past I refused because deep down I knew anti-depressant wasn't the answer and I self-diagnosed myself a couple of times. Go with your hunch.
You talk about pain easing temporarily when you have your period.... same thing is happening to me with wound healing and digestive problems. It is definitely the fluctuation of hormones. If I ever have cancer, I would not go on chemo. I'd go for CBD oil or Corey's vaccines.
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Traceylr

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« Reply #940 on: July 07, 2018, 02:52:47 PM »

Hi SueLW
I use estradot 50mcgs continually . I change the patch twice a week wed/sun. Apologolgies if my post was confusing and this late reply. Been on hols .
I had some intial bleeding when i changed from (daily) oral to vaginal utro but all appears to have settled now.
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« Reply #941 on: July 09, 2018, 01:37:22 PM »

Hi - I have just 'found' Menopause Matters and am so glad as I am struggling! I have all of the symptoms of the menopause, hot flushes, no confidence - I doubt myself all of the time, anxiety, no energy, I have instantly developed a 'spare tyre' after never having one, frequent UTIs and no libido - everything is dry and now my hair is coming out in droves !! My GP is NO HELP whatsoever - I can't find any menopause clinics and have no-one that I can talk to about this. I haven't had a period for around 14 months and prior to this was on the progesterone only pill - I couldn't have the combined pill as I have really bad migraines. I feel apprehensive about taking HRT as am concerned about filling my system with oestrogen - I am 53 - and have read about the negative effects that oestrogen can have on your body so ideally would love to address some of the symptoms naturally or with alternative methods. I am taking Menopause, Ginseng and cod liver oil but not much has changed. I would really love my 'old self' back and would love to feel human again. Has anyone any advice ??? xxx
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JaneW

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« Reply #942 on: July 09, 2018, 01:42:30 PM »

*Menopace
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Dancinggirl

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« Reply #943 on: July 09, 2018, 04:09:11 PM »

Hi and welcome to mm

What negative effects have you heard about in connection to oestrogen?
Oestrogen reduces hot flushes, protects the heart and bones for the long term, treats and prevents urogenital atrophy and has even has a small preventative effect against bowel cancer.
Progesterone can be more problematic for some women but there are many hrt options so most women can find an HRT that suits them.

Supplements and alternative remedies rarely help with flushes and many other meno symptoms but HRT is the natural way to supplement your hormones to help give you quality of life.

Most hrts have bio identical oestrogen, so this is the same as your body would produce.

I would suggest you read up all the factual info on this site, print off stuff to show the GP and perhaps ask to try Femoston 1/10 or the combined patches to see if things improve. You have everything to gain and nothing to loose.
Do bare in mind that 5 years of hrt in your 50s will protect your heart and bones for the long term.

Look under TREATMENTS to see your options and also ask for Vagifem local oestrogen to treat your atrophy. The repeated UTIs will be because of urogenital atrophy and your GP should have known this and offered you appropriate treatment.
Keep posting - we're here to support you. DG x

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JaneW

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« Reply #944 on: July 09, 2018, 06:21:46 PM »

......thank you so much - that's really helpful. I have read quite a bit about oestrogen causing cell mutations by a couple of different pathways and as a result increasing the risk of a number of cancers, especially if it's present in higher quantities. I know my natural oestrogen is lower than it was but I don't appear to be able to find out what my actual oestrogen level is to know if any of the HRT treatments will raise it too high. I do tend to 'overthink' things massively and I think with my increased anxiety I don't want to opt for HRT only then to spend my time worrying about the side effects !! it doesn't help that my GP doesn't seem to be overly willing to chat to me about my concerns and is really difficult to see. From what I have read the combined patch does seem the 'safest' option but again I have concerns if I was refused the combined pill would I be able to have the combined patch? I haven't discussed this with my GP yet as I have been fighting against the thought of HRT in the past, although am so fed up of all the symptoms but now have to wait another two weeks before I can get an appointment !! I will have a read through the site to see whether there is anything that may help me with this. Thank you.
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