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[CrispyChick]

Who has done this using AD instead of hormones (HRT)?

I'd love to hear from you. What, apart from the obvious mood and anxiety, have they helped?

Thanks x

[CLKD]

I think in hindsight that because I was already on antidepressant medication, when I went into peri my symptoms were less.  I had intense nausea and knew where every waste bin/bucket was when shopping  due to the sudden attacks of 'going to be ill' ....... NAPS advised that I eat every 3 hours to ease those symptoms. 

When you had regular periods did you have cyclical depression: I did, I would sob for hours the night B4 a bleed even if a period wasn't due. It would be there the next monring!

have to run, T's ready 

[Emmia49]

Hi!

Well, I use only ad mirtazapine 30 mg. After trying 3 types of hrt, I decided to go ad rute.

I ve been on ad  for 4 months now and it helps with hot flushes - are gone!!!- sleep is nornal again, I even sleep through the  night, before ad I would wake every night to pee.

Anxiety and depression - gone!
I still have some bad days but not nearly bad as before.

I am 49 and peri, perods every 22 days. My hormons are near zero: estrogen 16, progesterone 0,3, fsh 75.

Some researches suggest SNRI ads help with peri/menopause symptoms.

I hope this will last and I will cross the bridge to menopause without hormones.

Hope this info helps.

Wish you all the best on your way!

[Nas]

Hi!

Well, I use only ad mirtazapine 30 mg. After trying 3 types of hrt, I decided to go ad rute.

I ve been on ad  for 4 months now and it helps with hot flushes - are gone!!!- sleep is nornal again, I even sleep through the  night, before ad I would wake every night to pee.

Anxiety and depression - gone!
I still have some bad days but not nearly bad as before.

I am 49 and peri, perods every 22 days. My hormons are near zero: estrogen 16, progesterone 0,3, fsh 75.

Some researches suggest SNRI ads help with peri/menopause symptoms.

I hope this will last and I will cross the bridge to menopause without hormones.

Hope this info helps.

Wish you all the best on your way!

Does mirtazapine make you groggy in the morning?

[CLKD]

Well done Emma49 and  .  Long may your recovery continue 

[Gnatty]

Nas, I used Mirtazapine for roughly a year a while back. When I first started, yes it did make me groggy in the morning but it's just an initial start up effect which is only temporary. The best thing about Mirtazapine though is it's amazing for sleep and there aren't the horrid initial start up side effects you often get with ADs. Apart from the drowsiness as already mentioned. The only downside is it can make some put on weight but for me I just needed to sleep and feel normal again so I didn't care if I put weight on. And I would take that any day over anxiety and insomnia. X

[Emmia49]

Hi Nas!

Yes, first 3-4 weks it made me groggy  now I am fine.

Still have some bad days, but in general I feel much better....

I hope it stays this way!

[Emmia49]

CLKD!

Thank you!!! 

[Nas]

Thanks Emmia and Gnatty 
Okay, well it seems that mirtazapine is one option for sleep. I will ask my oncologist about it next time we speak.

I’m glad it’s helped you both because anxiety and insomnia are the pits.

What about constipation? My cancer meds can make me prone to this if I don’t watch my fluid intake and diet.

Crispy what do you think? Is mirtazapine an option for you do you think? X

[CrispyChick]

Thanks ladies.

I'm pondering this. I was just thinking of you Nas - do you currently take an AD?

And, although basic, have you tried physillian husk for the constipation? Or artichoke?

[Penguin]

Thanks Emmia and Gnatty 
Okay, well it seems that mirtazapine is one option for sleep. I will ask my oncologist about it next time we speak.

I’m glad it’s helped you both because anxiety and insomnia are the pits.

What about constipation? My cancer meds can make me prone to this if I don’t watch my fluid intake and diet.

Crispy what do you think? Is mirtazapine an option for you do you think? X

Nas have you tried magnesium citrate in the evening for constipation? It's the form of magnesium they use for loose stools x

[Nas]

Hi Crispy,
Mirtazapine could work for us and as Gnatty mentioned, no nasty start up effects. I may give it a go!

Just looking at physillan husk now 😊

How are you doing today? X

[Nas]

Thanks Emmia and Gnatty 
Okay, well it seems that mirtazapine is one option for sleep. I will ask my oncologist about it next time we speak.

I’m glad it’s helped you both because anxiety and insomnia are the pits.

What about constipation? My cancer meds can make me prone to this if I don’t watch my fluid intake and diet.

Crispy what do you think? Is mirtazapine an option for you do you think? X

Nas have you tried magnesium citrate in the evening for constipation? It's the form of magnesium they use for loose stools x

Penguin, I have a tub of the magnesium citrate from H&B. So far, I’m okay if eat a ton of fruit and 2 kiwi a day! Sometimes I don’t feel like a ton of fruit and 2 kiwi a day though! 😆

[CrispyChick]

Nas. I would think physillian husk would do the same as the kiwis. As long as you drink a ton of water. 👍

Thanks for asking how I am, I'm in hell. ☹️ If this hormonal trial ends - and it'll be soon if it does - then I'm defo going for AD only.

I'm already on 5mg escitalopram. Have been for years. It does nadda. But I've been up as far as 15mg many years ago. It will work for me on mood and anxiety. But the start up is hell.

That said, I'm oversensitive to everything. I'll stick with escit as I can't face the tapering off and starting an unknown.

I do think it's worth you looking at the AD route. If you don't already.

That's what this post is about. I know there are woman have success on AD only. Hopefully more will be along shortly. Xx

[Nas]

Yes Crispy, more ladies will be along soon I’m sure to share experiences. Anti D’s do have a place in the hormonal hell tool box, so hopefully at some point, you will find something you can tolerate. Mirtazapine does seem to be a good starting point though x