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CLKD

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Man died after chiropractor treatment
« on: November 11, 2019, 10:40:58 PM »

A man who broke his neck as he was treated by a chiropractor shouted "You are hurting me," his widow has told an inquest.

John Lawler, 80, was attending Chiropractic 1st in York in August 2017 when he said he could not feel his arms and became like a "ragdoll".
Mr Lawler was taken to York Hospital and later transferred to Leeds General Infirmary where he died the next day.
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Re: Man died after chiropractor treatment
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2019, 07:57:07 AM »

Omg,that's awful. I went to a chiropractor many years ago as I kept getting a crick in my neck,some days I could barely move my head,went to chiropractor who without knowing what was wrong started doing what they do,result?fractured disc in my neck,went to hospital where they did an MRI and the fluid from my disc was leaking onto my nerves,the specialist said that he thought my disc was slipping hence the crick but the chiropractor did the damage.These people,how can they possibly know what's wrong with you,they don't do xrays or mri's the totally ruined my neck,stay clear in my opinion
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Re: Man died after chiropractor treatment
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2019, 09:00:02 AM »

Many++ years ago I heard a consultant orthopaedic surgeon tell a young girl not to ever go for osteopathy etc.  She had an unusually kink in her spine and it would have paralysed her.  She was given gentle physio and a collar to wear in bed.

X-rays should always be taken but I do wonder how many practitioners can actually read films?  Talking to a physiotherapist or someone at a Rugby Club for advice may be a way to go but always get recent films taken!!

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Re: Man died after chiropractor treatment
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2019, 04:47:41 PM »

Case is going through Court this week  :-\
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Re: Man died after chiropractor treatment
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2019, 06:15:19 PM »

Thing with an X-ray is it doesn't show up soft tissue,mine came back fairly clear,only inflammation,wasn't til I'd an mri that the real problem was shown
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Re: Man died after chiropractor treatment
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2019, 06:17:08 PM »

Hence the necessity for a many films prior to agreeing with any manipulation that isn't in a hospital under GA.  That way there is no resistance from the patient .  Apparently the thing he was laying on dropped, suddenly  :o
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Re: Man died after chiropractor treatment
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2019, 09:54:16 PM »

It's not 'going to court', there is an inquest underway at the moment. The CPS have already said that there is no case to answer.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2019, 09:58:15 PM by Shadyglade »
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Re: Man died after chiropractor treatment
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2019, 03:54:11 PM »

Tnx. Shady.  Obviously wasn't taking as much notice as I ought to have done  :-\
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Re: Man died after chiropractor treatment
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2019, 05:00:42 PM »

Can you self-refer to physios now?

I feel for his poor family.
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Re: Man died after chiropractor treatment
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2019, 05:08:45 PM »

Apparently 1 has been able to self refer to various specialities depending on your Health Authority
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Re: Man died after chiropractor treatment
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2019, 05:09:08 PM »

Can you self-refer to physios now?

I feel for his poor family.

As far as I know, yes. If not the physio will just point you back to your GP.
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Re: Man died after chiropractor treatment
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2019, 03:41:41 PM »

Jonathan Heath found Mr Lawler suffered a fractured neck and spinal cord injury while undergoing treatment.

It emerged during the six-day hearing that Mr Lawler had a condition in his cervical spine meaning it was far more rigid than a healthy spine.

Over time the ligaments along the cervical spine had become bone-like resulting in limited movement in his neck.

Medical experts said the condition was abnormal but not uncommon in older people.
It can be visible on imaging, such as a CT scan, but the inquest heard that imaging is no longer common before chiropractic treatment.


So a potential client should never agree to 'treatment' until scans have taken place? which is what my Boss told patients years ago.
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