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[mabel64]

Thank you again for all your kind replies. Rosenheath, I have another Gp appointment at the end of the week. Today is another bad day. All I want to do is lie on the sofa and watch mindless tv as a distraction from the way Im feeling. My thoughts are so negative and I know this is a pattern that Ive had through life but it is so much worse at the moment.

[Kathleen]

Hello mabel64.

I totally understand how you feel as I have just retired to bed for the second time today because I feel so low and hopeless. I did manage to get up and make a mushroom sauce and that felt like a huge achievement. You mention having this pattern in the past and I wonder if it was linked to your cycle?  If so you could still be subject to hormonal ups and downs but without the soft landing that lots of lovely oestrogen provides.

You are not alone in all  this, many of us feel as you do and I hope that's a comfort.

Take care.

K.

[CLKD]

Listen to your body?  We use a lot of energy feeling depressed and anxious.  So if you want to lie low, then why not?  I found that making a list each evening and ticking off each chore, showed me the next day how much I had *actually* achieved.  It helped me to see that I wasn't wasting as much time as I feared.

[mabel64]

Kathleen I know exactly what you mean by simple things seeming like a huge achievement. Today has been really rough and I must admit my thoughts have been in a dark place. The thought of life always being like this is frankly horrible. Then I add in the guilt that I shouldnt feel this way as in many ways Im lucky. I just feel very weak and hopeless, my friends are all strong capable women and Im sure they are sick of supporting me (being this way has cost me a friendship). Im just at a loss to know what tò try.

[racjen]

You poor thing- frankly when I have days like this (and I do a lot at the moment) I figure I have to do whatever it takes to get through the next few hours, so whether that's having a bath in the middle of the day, watching TV all day, going to bed for a bit, whatever it takes just stop making a value judgement about it and do it. A few hours later you'll feel differently and able to get up and do something more active for a bit. Try to live in the moment and stop worrying about what's going to happen tomorrow/next week/next year. In my experience one things for sure - things never stay the same for very long. Big hugs xxx

[Kathleen]

Hello mabel64.

I feel your pain! I just went downstairs to get a drink and the thought of having to eat brought on feelings of panic (  I usually lose my appetite when I'm anxious, which has me worrying and feeling more anxious etc, etc ).

I am also seeing my GP next week and hoping to get a referral to a menopause specialist. At the moment I am taking Tibolone which is a low dose HRT and doesn't actually add any hormones but instead helps the body to produce it's own ( fat chance of that happening any time soon lol). 

For a few years I have been taking an antidepressant called Venlafaxine which I was told would reduce night sweats and it did for a while but perhaps it isn't working so well now.

Like you I basically wonder what treatment to pursue next,  it seems like we have to diagnose ourselves sometimes and then ask for the right help. Can I ask if you've had anxiety problems in the past? I have and I believe the menopause has made these episodes more prolonged.

Do keep posting about how you are feeling if it helps. Friends can find us hard going at times I know but there are many kind and caring women on the site who understand our issues and do not judge us. This forum has been a huge help to me during this challenging time and I'm sure it will help you too.

Wishing you well.

K.

[Dotty]

Kathleen..... sorry to hear you are not feeling good .

Stay strong xx

[Kathleen]

Hello Dotty.

Thank you so much for your message, very kind of you and much appreciated.

Big hugs to you too.

K.

[Dotty]

Kathleen you definitely need a different hrt x

[Kathleen]

Hello again Dotty.

You are absolutely right.  I was hoping that Tibolone would be sufficient so probably stuck with it much longer than I should have.  Definitely time to re think.

Thank you for your interest and take care.

K.

[CLKD]

Kathleen - the 1st thing that goes when anxiety hits is my appetite.  It goes immediately then my head gets into 'I must eat, I won't ever eat again'.  Do you have stand-by foods?  I find that eating B4 my body is hungry helps.

It really is about taking half an hour at a time.  As well as being kind to you! as you can't help it.  How do any of us know how 'strong' other women are?  Stop beating yourselves up and comparing yourselves!!!  this is about U  !!! we can't possibly know how others really are.

Remember that telephone voice  but when we find out that is a person we know, the voice disappears 

[Spangles]

Sending you all massive hugs, I'm in the same place right now!
Just awful
xXx

[mabel64]

Hi Kathleen no Ihavent really had any problems with anxiety untill the last few weeks, only depression. I have had bad pmt since I started my periods, also had postnatal depression a couple of times so I believe I am  sensitive to hormonal changes. Im sorry you are finding things tough at the moment too xx