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[honeybun]

What symptoms of IBS do you have as feeling sick generally is not one of them. Bloating ,cramping, constipation and the runs are very common.
I understand you have stomach problems but it could be something other than IBS.

One of the side effects of the pills you are taking is nausea.

Have you tried a more natural approach.
Start with your diet making it very bland. Perhaps try a good pro biotic. Other alternatives such as slippery elm and aloe Vera are very soothing.

It might be a good time to try something different.


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[rosebud57]

Do be careful.  I had similar symptoms to you , which I took for IBS.  It went on for weeks and then I became very ill with terrible back and stomach pain and feeling sick.  Nearly got my husband up to take me to A&E in the middle of the night I felt so bad.  Saw my GB on a emergency appointment next day and it turned out to be an upper urinary tract infection.  He said I must have had it for sometime and results confirmed multiple bugs.  You don't always get burning wee, especially if it's sited more towards the kidneys and a runny tummy is often a symptom.  Try peeing into an old jam jar.  If your wee is cloudy you have probably got an infection.

[CLKD]

However: constant nausea and a feeling of going to be sick was my main symptom.  Due to being anorexic-type my gut spasm had stopped almost completely over a period of months so no food was being passed through my system; consequently if I was hungry if I ate/drank then the sickness was there as nothing was moving ……. fortunately my Very Good GP gave me Colpermin and Motillium which helped ease symptoms.

[moonbeam121167]

I do eat a bland diet, I take a good probiotic, I dont have bloating or server diarrhea or constipation,  I dont believe its IBS , my endoscopy showed a irritated stomach but I thought after a year on PPI it would be healing but it is not, it all started around the time I found the large fibroid which was I believe when I started peri-menopause, I have many blood test and the only thing they found is high liver enzymes, had a stool test found nothing, justing waiting for my estrogen tests to come back but the HRT specialist does believe it is low as I still have some hot flushes and other symptoms, hoping they will up my HRT and I am prayering big time that the increase will help my stomach as well, well I can only hope can I !!!



Total Hysterectomy 27th Dec '12
Climaval 2mg   30th Dec'12 to Jan 8th '14
Estradot 50mcg  9th Jan '14 to

[rosebud57]

Could it be the Estradot?  I believe one of the common side affects is nausea.

[honeybun]

I really don't think that extra oestrogen will help your stomach. If anything it might make it worse as extra oestrogen can cause nausea.

I think your stomach issues are completely separate from your HRT. There should be a reason that your liver test results are not good. Liver problems can cause general nausea. I would push for further investigation into this and treat your menopause as a completely different issue.
If your HRT is helping with flushes and anxiety then it's doing its job so your stomach problems are not related.
HRT can help IBS a little but as you really don't sound as if you have this as you have no bowel issues.
Go back to your GP and ask for further liver function tests. If you can sort that out then you may have the answer to your stomach problems.


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[Sarah2]

How high are your liver enzymes?

If you liver is not functioning properly and is inflamed, then you could be advised to stop the HRT-it's contraindicated for active liver disease.       ( see the information in the packs on the leaflet.)

You will probably be ok short term but you do need to follow this through as soon as possible.

Silly question- but do you drink much ? ( booze?) If so it plays havoc with IBS and will also harm your liver.

If you have IBS then cut out the apricots and nuts- both are very high fibre and for most people with IBS they cause sever pain/ wind/ problems.

[orrla]

I do eat a bland diet, I take a good probiotic, I dont have bloating or server diarrhea or constipation,  I dont believe its IBS

And rightly so! Where from this idea?

Are your HRT oral or patches? Oral can affect liver - they were giving me heartburn, gone when on patches.

I must say I am lost - what exactly are your symptoms you are looking our advice for?

[Sarah2]

Oral HRT doesn't affect the liver as such: the hormones pass through it during digestion, but it won't make a healthy liver unhealthy. But if you have an unhealthy liver then any drugs potentially can make it worse.

 You have to take a higher dose orally to get the same effect as transdermal because some of the hormones are lost in the digestive process.

[moonbeam121167]

Hi
 I dont drink or smoke, the latest blood test was the 4th to come back showing raised liver enzymes(ALT) , also had a hepatitis test done and that was negative , they are referring me to a liver doctor but when that will be I dont know, I am on the patch and I still have the odd hot flush and I do get botts of mood swings, depression and general feelings of sadness, I have no energy.  Not sure what advice I am looking for but I just help  as this has gone on too long and my poor hubby is just does not know what to do , we have tried all sorts but nothing or no one helps, its not me to be poorly x

[CLKD]

Has your GP sent a referral letter, if so, ring the appts dept at the Hospital and see if you can take a 'cancellation' appt. and also ask what the waiting list for Consultant appts. is.

[Sarah2]

If you have something wrong with your liver then you are likely to feel tired.
It might also give you a raised temperature though that is not the same as a hot flush.

It might help if your dr told you how high your liver enzymes were- there is a huge range and if it's just slightly then it's nothing to worry about. It all depends on the extent of the problem.

Try and rest and eat well.

[orrla]

I think that at this stage we all have something wrong with our livers  To me it sounds now like a hormonal thing.

Sorry, I can't remember what HRT dose are you on (nor how old are you) - perhaps is just too low for you - considered increasing?

Testosterone seems to be in fashion nowadays too (I am just trying it myself and I think it works - no miracle but I do have bit more energy now and am less .. scared /crying lazy...whatever ). Perhaps this could work for you too?

Here is a good website, besides one we are on, to read about wonders of HRT - because it makes sense: http://www.studd.co.uk/menopause.php

Best!

[honeybun]

Lack of hormones to the best of my knowledge does not cause liver problems.

Call your GP and find out what's happening regarding your appointment. I honestly feel it's the cause of you feeling sick. I remember having jaundice many years ago and it took my stomach such a long while to come back to normal.



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[orrla]

Lack of hormones to the best of my knowledge does not cause liver problems.

Correct! But it can make one feel really bad without any particular organ damage and from a description Moonbeam gave here it looks as if this is how she feels - and does not know why. My bet is hormones because I know how bad I can feel when my hormones are low.

It is good you are having a thorough check-up, Moonbeam. Go for a higher dose and see what's happen. I tolerate Evorel better to Estradot as well, so perhaps it's worth trying a different maker too?