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[Rowan]

Here is more info on "Sutherlandia Frutescens" which is what Felisa is  http://www.sutherlandia.org/

They talk about it on "No More Panic"

It is expensive, though these herbals usually are.

I think I would prefer my Rooibos tea "Aspalathus linearis" it is very calming  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooibos

[CLKD]

If it is taken 'alongside your usual medication' how does one know that it works ........... 

I also want to add that some people are 'allergic' or react to the outer covering of the medication, not to the drug itself .

[Hurdity]

Hurdity.

I have been sitting thinking the same thing. My problems did begin when I went onto conti HRT so perhaps what you say is very valid.

I think I will put on another appointment with my GP.

My only concern is that I did try coming off HRT at the beginning of the year. I managed a month and did not find my anxiety improved much. Would the conti still have been in my system after that amount of time.

Not moved from the chair today and still have a thumping headache despite paracetamol.

Honeyb
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Hi again - I can't really comment on all the other meds or productds as I've never taken them - but just that you mentioned the prog in your system. I don't really know how long it stays in your system. From what I read blood levels reduce pretty quickly but other effects may take much longer and I imagine some of it must be stored in the body?

The initial withdrawal after stopping would have been felt within a week - you might have had headaches etc for a few days?

However the fact you stopped HRT completely means that even if the prog left your system - then you were also reducing the oestrogen - so some of your anxiety could have continued due to low oestrogen too.

I'm not saying that this is entirely the cause - but it could make the difference between being able to cope with the anxiety due to difficult pressures in your life eg looking after your mum - and finding it all too much.

Personally I would look to changing your HRT - at least or if only to rule out this as a contributory factor in your anxiety. As I said before - you could try Femseven but this also has a synthetic progestogen. How were you in the past with periods - did you get pms symptoms the whole of the second half of the month or only just before your period? I think I mentioned if you went beack to a cycle briefly at least you would be able to identify if it was the progestogen causing the problem and I would go back to a specialist if possible.

Maybe even the level of oestrogen is too low for you? I think you are still quite young (in meno terms!) so maybe could increase the oestrogen dose. In this case you would definiutley need to take separate oestrogen and progestogen so perhaps you would like to try to join the Utrogestan gang?!!

Coupled with this I would try the non-chemical approaches to dealing with anxeity - like has been suggested already on this thread - I think you went on a CBT course and not sure if you;ve been able to take any of this on board?

Hope this helps

Hurdity x

[CLKD]

CBT could never over-come the physical feelings that anxiety gives me.  No amount of 'you survived before, you will survive this time' chat in my brain over-ruled the physical awful nausea and fear ........... because my phobia was engrained before I was a week old  .

Relaxation therapy helped a lot.  As did sitting, with cat on knee, doing absolutely nowt.  But it took a lot for the brain to stop whirring ..... the 'what if these feelings never go away or get worse' 

How are you this evening HoneyBun?

[honeybun]

Thanks Hurdity.

Could you possibly pm me your regime details. I have a tame GP in our practise who will generally give me what I want so if I can go armed with preparation details and regime I am pretty sure he will prescribe. The female GP won't so rather than be turned away....
I always had pretty bad PMS for about ten days before a period.

I am fine CLKD thanks.

Side effects all gone now and back to "normal".

I also intend to ask my GP for a different councillor to try that again.

Honeyb
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[Taz2]

I guess the progesterone level must drop fairly quickly in that when on a sequi HRT you have a bleed within a day or two of stopping the progesterone. With me my anxiety lifted within a week. I have just finished my progesterone two weeks (bleed started today) and I am feeling more human again tonight.

Taz x

[Elena]

So pleased you're feeling better HB. Lol @ "tame GP", wish I could find one!