Menopause Matters Forum
General Discussion => New Members => Topic started by: Suzysheep on August 24, 2021, 12:45:10 PM
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Hi. I’m 49. Haven’t had a period for around 2 1/2 years. I have suffered hot flushes and headaches, but for around 6 month or so my body started hurting all over. My joints were very painful, so, I went to see my gp and was put on everol conti ( sorry can’t spell it) patches. To cut a long story short I had the worst pms and painful heavy period so was told to stop.
Over the next couple of weeks my anxiety has become so high. I’m an absolute mess. I have that horrible fight or flight feeling all day. To make matters worse I’ve become very sensitive to sounds ie someone sniffing to the point where I am miserable. I have read up on this and believe the term for it is misophonia. It’s making life unbearable… my hormones are bottoming out and I really don’t know what to do with myself.
Any tips would be hugely appreciated. I feel like I’ve gone totally mad, and it’s putting such pressure on my poor husband, I feel awful for that too!
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You are not alone. I started a thread about 'noise' several years ago ::). DO U keep a mood/food/symptom diary, it may be of use.
Anxiety is usually hormonal at 'our age',however, if it is unbearable a 6-8 months course of anti-anxiety medication might help. I have used relaxation therapy and Bachs mouth spray successfully.
As oestrogen levels drop off the muscles may become lax = aches and pains. The body may become dry: inside and out; skin, deep in the ears, scalp, nostrils, vaginal area ...... browse round. Make notes :welcomemm:
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Thank you CLKD.
Do you have a link to the noise thread?
I don’t keep a diary…. But I’ll have a good look over the forum
I’ve been prescribed citalopram, which I haven’t noticed any relief from as yet, but was told give it 2 weeks.
Xx
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Hi
Sorry to hear you feeling so poorly. Just to say the Citrilopram will often increase anxiety for the first couple of weeks so hopefully it may start to level off a bit now. I don’t know anything about noise sensitivity I’m afraid.
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Bumped my thread on 'noise'.
We talk about everything on here, even menopause ::) - exercise, dog breeds, birds, gardening .........
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Hi
Sorry to hear you feeling so poorly. Just to say the Citrilopram will often increase anxiety for the first couple of weeks so hopefully it may start to level off a bit now. I don’t know anything about noise sensitivity I’m afraid.
Oh dear, I didn’t know it would increase it first :-\
I don’t know if it can be increased… it feels like it’s at the highest it can be!
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Just to say keep going! The most beneficial effects from an AD for anxiety usually start between weeks 4 and 6 but from week two you might well start to notice small improvements x
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I’m sorry you’re experiencing such high anxiety, that is where my peri-menopause sits too so I feel you. It’s a shame you couldn’t stay on the estrogen as I found it helps. I also really struggled with annoyance of noise. Again that has subsided for me with the HRT, have you seen the earn plugs which help quite the annoying frequency noises? I’m thinking about purchasing a pair, they’re made for highly sensitive people, they may help
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I’m sorry you’re experiencing such high anxiety, that is where my peri-menopause sits too so I feel you. It’s a shame you couldn’t stay on the estrogen as I found it helps. I also really struggled with annoyance of noise. Again that has subsided for me with the HRT, have you seen the earn plugs which help quite the annoying frequency noises? I’m thinking about purchasing a pair, they’re made for highly sensitive people, they may help
No I haven’t heard of them….. what are they called?
I think more HRT might be off the cards for me for now, I had such a bad experience with the patches, I’m too scared to try anything else.
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Some anxiety increases with ADs - mine never did! In 2001 I was given Propranolol to ease early morning anxiety surges and an Anti depressant (1989) to treat the depression.
Ear plugs are OK for short term use, they can cause ear infections if not kept scrupulously clean.
MayB get the anxiety sorted then consider H replacement T again, there are several methods of treatment.
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No I haven’t heard of them….. what are they called?
I found them on Insta, they’re called loopearplugs dot com
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Thankyou Theamericanswife I have looked at the website and read all the reviews. I’ll be giving them a try x
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U can B the MM tester of the product then let us know ;)
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Of course, I’ll let everyone know how I get on with them CLKD :)
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Hi just to say l am on 20 mg citralopram for depression in menopause been taking for almost 4 weeks although some symptoms increased at first today lm finding negative thoughts and panic subsiding for few hours feeling much better could still have blips but can see light now .keep with it gets better can take 6 to 8 weeks for full benefits .we can get better.
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Thankyou Dee.
I went out for a nice walk today with my husband, son and dog. It was going great for the first 15 minutes, then the anxiety set back in full throttle and I couldn’t get home fast enough. I felt bad for making them cut their walk short, but needed to be home.
I’ve not been on the citalopram for a week yet, so I suppose it’s going to be a while until I get the benefit.
Who knew what hormones could do to us :'(
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U got out. I often left the house 2 return really fast. Confused the dog no end ::). I would also run from shopping centres, always to the car so that DH could finish the buying.
It takes a while for the medication to take effect, be kind to yourselves!
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Thankyou Dee.
I went out for a nice walk today with my husband, son and dog. It was going great for the first 15 minutes, then the anxiety set back in full throttle and I couldn’t get home fast enough. I felt bad for making them cut their walk short, but needed to be home.
I’ve not been on the citalopram for a week yet, so I suppose it’s going to be a while until I get the benefit.
Who knew what hormones could do to us :'(
Hormonal anxiety is horrible and so many of us suffer from it so you're not alone. And you went out, no matter if only for 15 minutes, that's already great and as you keep going even if it feels bad, eventually brain will 'get' that there's nothing to be scared of and anxiety should subside or at least become more manageable. Take good care of yourself!! xx
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Yes, managed a longer walk today. Felt wobbly and anxious, but the strong sensation of fight or flight was down a notch.
I still have elevated noise sensitivity though. Every time I hear a tiny sniff my stomach flips. :'(
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That's over all anxiety. When in a panic attack my sense of smell is much finer, any noise is louder >:(. How did U feel once home?
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I still feel anxious and sensitive at home.
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I have a dr appointment Thursday. I’m in two minds to ask for different HRT. My biggest concern is that if the next lot aren’t right, I’ll have to go through this all again coming off them…. Or, if they are right, I’ll have to come off them at some point too as it’s not advised to stay on them forever!
I absolutely hate feeling like this, it’s just so overwhelming…..
and the noise sensitivity has not lessened at all!
I ordered the loop ear plugs, but they are shipped from the Netherlands and are yet to arrive.
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So : put the idea that HRT has 2 B stopped eventually out of your mind. That's old hat. Even if GPs still believe it, would they stop diabetic or heart medication?
Think about what U have tried thus far and for which symptom. How much has it helped/not.
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The loop earplugs arrived a couple of days ago.. I must say I’m a bit disappointed in them. I can still hear everything I don’t want to… but they do dull the sounds a little. For me they are a 5/10. Don’t waste your money! X
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MayB you R focussed on noise so they don't rule it all enough. I have tinnitus today >:( both ears ringing gently, slightly away from my head.
Do U sing?
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I’m sorry to hear about your tinnitus today. Is that menopause related?
No…. I don’t sing. My voice is not like that of an angel! Lol
One thing I’ve started doing for the last couple of days is sea swimming. I’m not a big fan of the sea and being cold, but a friend invited me and said it was really helping her mental health, so I took the plunge ( excuse the pun) and I’ve come back feeling pretty good.
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:-X. There mayB beasties in that sea :o.
Tinnitus - could be related to my age, especially as I didn't spend my younger nights at loud music venues. MayB the Eustachian tubes have narrowed.
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I try not to think of what might be in there with me! I really recommend it to anyone with mental health problems or any menopause symptoms at all. It doesn’t take it away, but it’s bracing and the cold feels like it’s calming. I go in feeling anxious and come out feeling so much better.
I hope your tinnitus has improved today x
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Tnx it was loud until mid-afternoon. Now background. I often wonder how long my ears have been 'ringing' B4 I notice ::)
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So yesterday was a better day… I think I over did it… by the evening I was an anxious mess again and my sound sensitivity was so high I was miserable.
Today I’ve woken up just the same. My anxiety has sky rocketed. I’ve got a phone call with the steps to well-being mental health team at 12, and I think I’m really anxious about that too. Just feeling so sick and jittery today.
Sigh.
Bitterly regretting trying HRT. I feel stupid that I believed all the hype around it that it was the cure all… it’s left me a total wreck.
I’m anxious around my husband in case he breathes in a certain way that makes my tummy flip. My heart is broken because he is my soul mate. We’ve been together for nearly 30 years… how can this happen?
Sorry to vent…. Today is a hard day :'(
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Think about why you began HRT?
Make notes? Have you talked to your Husband, also, do print off the 'hints for husbands' from the Forum which I bounced recently? Hand it to him. :-).
I used to over do what ever activity I was at, it took ages to learn to let go sooner than I really wanted to. I mean ages = years ::). DH still tells me that I 'need to stop and rest' :-*
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So yesterday was a better day… I think I over did it… by the evening I was an anxious mess again and my sound sensitivity was so high I was miserable.
Today I’ve woken up just the same. My anxiety has sky rocketed. I’ve got a phone call with the steps to well-being mental health team at 12, and I think I’m really anxious about that too. Just feeling so sick and jittery today.
Sigh.
Bitterly regretting trying HRT. I feel stupid that I believed all the hype around it that it was the cure all… it’s left me a total wreck.
I’m anxious around my husband in case he breathes in a certain way that makes my tummy flip. My heart is broken because he is my soul mate. We’ve been together for nearly 30 years… how can this happen?
Sorry to vent…. Today is a hard day :'(
Sorry to hear you're feeling worse today -good that you came here to vent. Please don't be hard on yourself or spend energy regretting the HRT. You tried it because you felt bad and thought it would help. That's perfectly right reason to do it! Also, you don't know for sure if your symptoms are actually caused by HRT, or just the menopause progressing.
Having a worse day after a better day sounds like 'normal' course of recovery, so don't be too depressed by it. Tomorrow can be another good day again. I don't think it is unusual at all that recovery is like that, two steps forward one step back...
Take good care of yourself and I'm sure your husband and soul mate will understand this is not you, its the illness.
Sending hugs and warm thoughts. xxx
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Suzy sheep
I hope you are ok and I hope you have a better day today ..
these good and bad days keep coming but eventually I hope we have more good days than bad
Your husband would understand if you sit and speak to him
My husband didn’t know how I went from happy go lucky to this nervous wreck within weeks .. he said it’s like someone turned a switch
We try and understand what happens but we don’t , but he knows from me when it’s a good or bad day .. he can tell.
But we in it together & aslong as we are open about things to each other that will continue
Today I woke up jittery and shakey but I’m hoping it will pass
I have CBT booked in soon so hoping that will also take my mind off things. Then I’ll listen to a relaxing recording & hope by time I’ve done all that , that I feel better & if not .. then so be it .. I take one day at a time now
Hope your ok & I hope today is a much better day for you
Xx
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Thankyou ladies for your kind replies. It was a very difficult day yesterday.
Today started off jittery and anxious… just because I knew I was meeting my friend for a swim this morning… which is ridiculous as it’s something I love doing and she is great company…. But after the plunge into the cold sea my nerves have settled somewhat.
It’s like a crazy roller coaster ride that you can’t get off.. ups downs , dizzying spins…. And it makes me feel sick!!!
I talk to my husband about how I feel all the time. He is very supportive in every way… it’s just me having over reaction thoughts. It’s really hard to turn these thoughts around.
Michelle… sorry, I can’t remember, but are you on HRT? X
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Thankyou ladies for your kind replies. It was a very difficult day yesterday.
Today started off jittery and anxious… just because I knew I was meeting my friend for a swim this morning… which is ridiculous as it’s something I love doing and she is great company…. But after the plunge into the cold sea my nerves have settled somewhat.
It’s like a crazy roller coaster ride that you can’t get off.. ups downs , dizzying spins…. And it makes me feel sick!!!
I talk to my husband about how I feel all the time. He is very supportive in every way… it’s just me having over reaction thoughts. It’s really hard to turn these thoughts around.
Michelle… sorry, I can’t remember, but are you on HRT? X
Hi Suzy , I’m glad today is a better day
I too woke up jittery and shaky and it’s lingering today , but I’m just doing what I can , i told myself I’m allowed to have these bad days .. I made my self go into local shop so that’s one thing I’ve done plus cracked on with housework
And also had session of CBT this morning which I find interesting .. just gotta learn my brain to do all these things
I’m no longer on HRT as I believe that this aniexty got worse after patches, but I’ll never know to be certain
I only had one episode of aniexty before patches & then it gradually became constant.
But I had also had covid vaccines around the same time also .. so it could be one or other that set it off .. I will never know
I stayed on patches for almost 4 months and I’ve been off them 6 weeks now ..
first 4 weeks was horrendous with constant fight or flight aniexty panic everything
Last week was a good week where the aniexty wasn’t as bad… this week it’s not so intense but the jittery ness as been there for few days but I just hoping it all starts to subside soon ( I live in hope ) but I’m positive at somepoint I will get me Bck .. :)
Hope today continues to be a good day for you
Xx
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Oh of course Michelle, I remember now, same sort of time frame and pattern of anxiety as me… except I’m at the 4 week mark since I stopped. Did you stop cold turkey like me?
Are you taking any meds for the anxiety?
I’ve just done an hour up the allotment. I think I need a nap!
Does anyone else get so exhausted from feeling so anxious, but still find it hard to switch off
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Oh of course Michelle, I remember now, same sort of time frame and pattern of anxiety as me… except I’m at the 4 week mark since I stopped. Did you stop cold turkey like me?
Are you taking any meds for the anxiety?
I’ve just done an hour up the allotment. I think I need a nap!
Does anyone else get so exhausted from feeling so anxious, but still find it hard to switch off
Hi again
Yeah I quit cold turkey as I hadn’t been on them for 6 months I was told I could just take off , and was told it could take awhile for my own hormones to settle as body as to get used to not having added hormones
I don’t take anything for the aniexty , I did try a beta blocker on small dose , but it’s not me and I couldn’t sleep ( I don’t sleep much now because mind is always on over drive but when I took the tab I had no sleep at all ) which made the next day worse aniexty wise
I do feel better than what I was if I’m honest .. and getting out Is a big thing for me as this aniexty not gonna lie took over my mind and body.
Where now I’m taking slowly some of that Back
I also think my own hormones are starting to appear
As when I was on HRT I had periods Etc and when I came off the patches .. I got period when it was due
But since that period I’ve not had one and it’s over 33 days ( I’ve never gone this long without a period ) so maybe slowly the hrt is leaving my system & maybe my own hormones will regulate soon
I’m onli presuming this as why I was on the patch the period would come as clock work ..
I’m still jittery today but nothing as bad as it’s been before but I’m aware of it.
I get tired , but that’s because of my broken sleep .. I can’t remember what a full night sleep is .. I’ve ever actually been a great sleeper but it’s been worse since all this aniexty
Glad you got out up the allotment .. keeps you active and brain working without becoming how I did which was scared to venture out
Xx
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Ugh…. Sorry to hear your sleep is so disturbed. That must really impact your mood anyway, without the added anxiety.
Did you have periods before HRT? …. I hadn’t had one for 2 1/2 years, until I had the patch. I’ve not had one since coming off either…
I feel let down that we were told to just stop taking HRT, even though we hadn’t been on it long, it was obviously enough time to build our hormones up pretty high. I posted a link to a study ( it’s a bit scientific, but even made sense to me) and it said there was a definite link between HRT and withdrawal symptoms, similar to that of someone coming off drugs. I’m aware not everyone gets these symptoms, but maybe the unlucky few are very sensitive and susceptible to this type of withdrawal. I’m convinced that’s what has caused my body to react like this.
Are you going to try a different HRT? I’m so torn … I really don’t want to ever go through this again… but my old symptoms of flushes and very painful joints are creeping back up on me!
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Ugh…. Sorry to hear your sleep is so disturbed. That must really impact your mood anyway, without the added anxiety.
Did you have periods before HRT? …. I hadn’t had one for 2 1/2 years, until I had the patch. I’ve not had one since coming off either…
I feel let down that we were told to just stop taking HRT, even though we hadn’t been on it long, it was obviously enough time to build our hormones up pretty high. I posted a link to a study ( it’s a bit scientific, but even made sense to me) and it said there was a definite link between HRT and withdrawal symptoms, similar to that of someone coming off drugs. I’m aware not everyone gets these symptoms, but maybe the unlucky few are very sensitive and susceptible to this type of withdrawal. I’m convinced that’s what has caused my body to react like this.
Are you going to try a different HRT? I’m so torn … I really don’t want to ever go through this again… but my old symptoms of flushes and very painful joints are creeping back up on me!
Hi again
I’ve never missed a period , was regular and then started coming 10 -12 days apart , so I went on everol sequi to help with aches pains , palpitations, sleep , and hot flashes as I didn’t get flush so much , just intense heat
I’ve never gone this long without a period so I’m hoping it’s my hormones getting Back to how they was before HRT
When I started the patch I thought it was great for the first week but then started noticing things but I was determined to try for 3 months and after 3.5 months I had to rip off the patch because everything had got worse & experiencing this was awful
I didn’t feel the benefit & would constantly wake up jittery blah blah
I just think maybe it was too early for me to even add any extra hormone and also the dose I think Shoulda been started off at 25 I’ve since been told but I went in straight at 50 on GP advice
I will consider using hrt again but not yet .. my friend went through similar to me and she just started back on HRT 2 years later and it’s worked for her this time :)
So always hope & I wouldn’t be set against it but I would be wary lol
I just want my hormones to resettle now and have a break
I totally think that the withdrawal is bloody awful .. and if that’s what coming off drugs is like I’m thankful that I never never went down that road.
Strongest pain killer I take is a paracetamol lol 😂
But I’m 6 weeks now off the patches and I hope that my days carry on the way they have been .. I don’t mind odd day but when it was everyday it was too much
I taking it each day as it comes & slowly I want my life back to before HRT & Before Vaccines as I’m still not sure if vaccines played a part also because after both vaccines this started which also happened to be why I was on a period also
But I’m 13 weeks since last vaccine
So maybe somewhere my body might settle
Pharmist told me can take 3-6 months for our hormones and body to realise we are not adding extra hormones
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Can it take 3-6 months even though I was only on the patches barely 3 months??
This morning has been dire. Jittery, anxious, sick…. My brain is going ten to the dozen with thoughts…. I have taken the dog out, didn’t manage too much as I was nervous about being sick… I keep retching.
I am awaiting a drs call. This is ridiculous… maybe I’m on the wrong medication…..
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Apparently yes it can take 3-6 months I was like but I wasn’t on it that long but apparently that’s how long it can take.
Hope your ok and hope you get a call off GP .. mine always just said it’s aniexty and blah blah and didn’t ever feel better after speaking to them ..
Today I just feel weird .. can’t explain it but I don’t like it
It’s not aniexty as such as in so intense it’s just I dunno how to describe it .. but be glad when it’s gone
The retching was one of the things I hated and I still get it when I’m nervous .. awful
Strange how our body’s are .. I would never expect half of what we experience from hormones but looking and reading on this site , so many suffer with it .. mind boggling
Hope your ok Suzy and hope you start to feel less jittery soon xx
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I feel a bit calmer. Had a good cry and am listening to some up beat music. I thought about having a swim.. but I actually feel quite weak and worn out. I don’t want to go out, but I don’t want to stay in either!!! Still waiting for phone call.
Do you feel spaced out? .. I often just feel weird… like you, it’s hard to describe…. And then I’ll feel the anxiety so intense that if I could run away from myself I would!
Oh great….. I’m coming up to 4 weeks.. . Up to 6 months to go!!
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Glad you feel calmer
I hope you get a call soon
Yeah seems spacey but haven’t taken anything to make me feel that way & just feel weird..
We could be lucky ones and not take the whole 6 months .. I’m just over 6 weeks and generally felt better in myself past week
Today is just a weird one .. hormones lol
Must be , as my boobs feel like burning but not bad but can feel it
I dunno .. I just feel somthing new each day lol
My face feels really flushed today and just general achy feeling
Whatever it is I hope it passes , so I can get on with my day ( nothing planned ) but wanna beable to do something if I wish too kinda thing
Muggy here today aswell so that don’t help much
Let us know how you get on Suzy
Xxx
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Hope you managed to feel better.
I’m still waiting for a drs call >:(
I’ve decided that I’m not going to try any more HRT until I see a specialist. I have been referred, but it could take months, so I’m going to look into going private…. Got a bit saved up in the holiday account that we haven’t been able to use since covid , and I think it’s more important.
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That’s a good idea Suzy .. health and well being is always more important
I’m not going on HRT for a while , I wanna get it all out my system and go from there .. but in future if needed I will use again. I don’t think any symptom can be as bad as the aniexty.
I feel ok now still feel warm & just hot sore boobies now , which I think means I should have a period at some point which I was expecting as it’s late ( by the last few months anyways ) so think maybe my own hormones are starting to regulate ( hopefully)
I have been reading a few story’s on here about people coming off HRT and struggling for a while but they both noticed by week 8 that things started to improve & got better
I noticed at week 5 so I’m hoping that the next few weeks I have more improvement
let’s hope thts the same for us and I hope you have better days and more improvement for you too in your coming weeks xx
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Yes, sounds like you are about to have a period. Hopefully once that’s out the way you might take even bigger strides in your mental health. I really hope so.
That’s really encouraging to hear about the 8 week mark. I hope so much it will happen like that… I’ve just got to get through for another month or so….
The dr rang. She said stick with the citalopram. It can take 4-6 weeks to start to see an improvement, and unfortunately you feel worse before you feel better. … so that coupled with the hormone withdrawal is still a few weeks off for me. I just feel so relieved I don’t work any more. I just simply wouldn’t be able to function.
Isn’t it odd how much our moods fluctuate throughout the day? X
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I hope so Suzy I really do.. hopefully period comes sooner rather than later ( although I won’t be saying that when it comes lol )
Like you I’m not working because of this , no way I would be-able to handle this plus work
I take my hat off to all those women who can .. this literally took me off my feet .. took my life, took me .. now slowly I’m taking it all back .. or at least I would like to think so
Few more weeks Suzy , let’s hope we both feel the benefit
Or you maybe sooner with the antidepressants
I really hope for better days for us all.
It is strange and how one day can be so different to the next
Infact one min to the next aswell
I would never in a million years without this site know that all this was caused via hormones never ever ever
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Who would have thought we would be willing a period to come! It’s a crazy world of hormones we’ve been thrown into! Like lambs thrown to lions.
No, never realised how intrinsically woven into our every function our hormones are… and the devastation when they decline.
I will never take my mental health for granted again. This episode has scared the sh*t out of me!
Let’s hope that tomorrow is a better day Michelle x
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Scared the shit out of me too …
Worst thing I’ve experienced that’s for sure ( I think it’s because we don’t know what’s wrong )
Even now when it happens I still get scared about it ..
bloody awful for anyone who suffers with this ..
Tomorrow will be a better day for us ❤️
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I’m loosing heart a little bit. Today was just as jittery and anxious. The retching in the morning just as bad. Ugh. I have had a swim… lovely whilst in the water… come home… anxiety up again. Had to get some shopping, managed that without the need to cry… so I’ll take that one as a small victory!
I feel like a real negative nelly today.
I’ve been trying to research a good menopause specialist near me, Dorset, to see privately. Does anyone have any recommendations?
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Hope your feeling better Suzy
Did you manage to find menopause specialist ?
My day as been better today than yesterday but I can still feel the aniexty today .. no where near as intense that it was on patches and when I first came off they , but all the same it’s there
Waiting on this cycle as this makes me more and more certain it was definitely hormones that started all this ( aniexty )
I’m convinced of it now & will rule out the jabs lol
Don’t lose too much heart Suzy your not to far behind me in weeks, so hopefully you start feeling some relief soon
Was week 5 I started noticing a slight difference and even on week 6 I can feel a difference but as previously said aniexty this week but on a lower level as in not so intense ( hope it stays that way )
I’m still taking each day as it comes .. but today it didn’t win .. I did … yesturday it won as I allowed it too
Hope your ok Suzy xxx
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I’m glad your day was better… hopefully they just continue to get better and better. Your doing so well.
I agree. I’m 100% sure my anxiety has been caused by the rapid increase/ rapid decrease in hormones.
I have found a couple of specialists in my area. I’m going to do a bit of digging and decide who I will see.
I think I’m coming up to week 4 next week…. But it feels like months!!
I hope you managed to get some good sleep tonight xx
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Very jittery morning. Anxiety through the roof for some reason. Took the dog out and felt like I had a mini panic attack when I walked in. Horrible.
My noise sensitivity is still up. Ugh… it’s driving me nuts!
Here goes another day…. Is it bedtime yet? Lol
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I’m so glad you have found specialist in your area & I hope whoever you see helps you
Hopefully Suzy you start to feel yourself soon … did I remember right that you take AD.. could that make you jittery too as if it’s new it takes certain amount of time to work ( so I’ve heard )
Hope your day gets better , sorry you had another awful morning .. let’s hope the day gets better as it goes along
Keep pushing along and keep posting , it’s helps in a small way to release it all
Xx
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Thankyou Michelle.
Yes, it really helps to vent a bit on here. It’s good to know I’m not alone with this, and that there are other women who understand.
It seems so common to have this crippling anxiety during menopause… or in our case after stopping HRT…. So why don’t gps recognise it? Why were we told to stop cold turkey…?? Why do we get pushed onto ad’s as a plaster over the cut, instead of being closely monitored to find the right HRT that will give us our lives back. Why hasn’t every drs surgery got a menopause specialist? 50% of the population will have to deal with it at some point…. They could have someone dedicated to just that??? …… I know the answer… money…. But that would be perfect. Maybe I’ll start a campaign ;D
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Yeah start a campaign
First thing they said to me was AD .. they seem to push these a lot , but to be fair some people need both
I didn’t realise how many people suffered with it until I joined on here , I wasn’t aware why it was happening & certainly would never have thought hormones was the cause.
How’s rest of your day been ?
Mine as been jittery n not so intense aniexty but I’m aware it’s there kinda thing but I’m still waiting for period .. whenever that comes along
Hope rest of your day as been better for you
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Hi Michelle
The rest of my day was good. My son and his girlfriend came over , we got Chinese, played a game… it was a really good distraction. Come 9.30 though I really hit a wall and I felt really tired and a bit of anxiety bubbling up. They didn’t mind heading off then anyway, so… I count the evening as a win!
This morning I’m anxious… but I haven’t been retching or sick….. will see what the day brings x
It’s good that you’re anxiety has tuned down a notch. Hopefully once you have your period it will drop some more. You’ve done so well to brave through it without any medication… you are a strong lady.. and I’m sure you will over come this soon!
I hope today is a better day for everyone… x
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I hate that dry retching. I had it when I had pets to look after :'(. Deep fear :-\ :'(
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Suzy I’m glad you had a good evening :)
It’s mad how it just appears from no where .. ok one min .. bag of nerves the next
The dry retching is awful .. I still get it occasionally but it deffo awful
I hope your aniexty goes away quick today and you have a good day
I think I’m gonna have a doss day today .. gonna just relax as much as possible , I’ve already done house work and daily things i do :)
I just keep taking each day as it comes Suzy .. I feel much better without medication.. I feel like I’m only giving my body what it’s always had now instead of adding in extra ..
When I add anything extra I worry about what that’s doing ( biggest problem for me )
I started taking vitamin D each day dunno if that’s helped in any way at all
But have done that for about a month now
I read oranges are good for aniexty and to be honest that is my favourite fruit but since I had acid reflux and burning pain , I stopped eating them . I wonder if I could actually add one back in now as burning seems to have subsided for now :) I still take omzerpole once a day for it
We will get there one day… because we are all survivors
Us women are stronger than we think.
Hope you have a great day xx
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I hate that dry retching. I had it when I had pets to look after :'(. Deep fear :-\ :'(
You poor thing. Did anything happen to you to make you so terrified? X
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Michelle,
I can’t tolerate oranges… they give me a really upset tummy. I’ve got a few food intolerances, citrus being one. Maybe a vitamin C tablet would help? I have heard magnesium is good for anxiety… I have bought some.
I’m glad you had a rest day today. It really does you good. How have you been.
My day has been ok. I had a bit of a wobbly afternoon, few tears for no reason, but better now.
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Suzy
I’m glad you had a goood day apart from your afternoon tears .. hopefully you have a relaxing evening
I love oranges just haven’t eaten them for a while because of tummy .. but I may try one
I have had a good day doing nothing lol
But now I feel agitated and I know it’s all to do with waiting for this period as I get the aches and pains & the feeling of a impending period .. it’s just waiting for it to arrive when it decides to show it’s face.
This will pass soon hopefully.. it’s not too bad but I’m aware of it & sooner it goes the more relaxed I’ll be :)
I don’t know if I can have magnesium I would have to check ( I have to check all these things because of my warfrain )
Hope you have a good evening Suzy :) and I hope tomorrow is a better day for you from start to finish xx
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That period is taking its time isn’t it!!! At least you know why you’re feeling agitated.
What do you take the warfarin for? Heart? I remember my dad having it, and yes, he had to be really careful with certain things, and burned in the sun! X
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Hi Suzy
I take it because when I had my son 28 years ago not long after I developed a blood clot in leg and then in lung .. so was originally put on it for a duration of time .. but when I got took off it , I got another clot .. so was always safer to stay on the warfarin & they told me for life back then when I was 18
When I was 40 I got them to recheck as over the years things can change and they did all tests but said I’m to stay on for life .. I did have a 4 year break but swapped it for fragmin injections .. so was pleased to go back on it after injecting myself so long.
Yeah it’s a waiting game .. I had a period after I finished the HRT .. which came right on time
& I shoulda been on last week if it was still on HRT
This makes me believe that my own hormones are in control or taking control now as I remember seeing discharge & thinking oh … that’s well out of sync
So I think I’m actually due this week if I go by that
So that must be why I can feel it coming not constant but when I get these feelings I also get the feelings of impending period so yeah it’s good to know why it’s happening but I wish it would do one.
I used to always know I was due in the week leading to period .. seems this time it wants to warn me earlier lol
Although this is the longest I’ve been without a period .. I’m sure it will happen unless you can still feel this way and not have one ??? I’ve never missed a period YET this is longest I’ve gone without one aswell ..
I did wonder if that’s why the aniexty hasn’t been so intense as it’s my own hormones now … I dunno Suzy .. I guess at everything just lately lol
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Oh wow, that must have been scary for you to deal with at 18! ( I had my first son at 18 too)
Hopefully your body is getting back to normal. The HRT will probably have knocked your own timings right out, so it’s probably to be expected that it seems to be screaming out for a period but it’s just not quite there yet. All these signs are really positive, especially as your anxiety is getting so much better xx
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How you feeling this morning Suzy .. hope your having a better morning xx
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A bit wobbly Michelle.
I had a call from the dr checking up with me. I said I was still really anxious in the mornings… she said that’s normal with anxiety. She doesn’t want to swap and change my citalopram, I’m to stick with it and give it 6-8 weeks.
I’m not as bad as I was, but I’m still very anxious…. But I’m trying to stay positive and give it more time.
How about you Michelle… how is your morning? X
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Suzy I’m glad your not as anxious .. even though it’s there it’s always better when not so intense .. so few more weeks could feel the benefit from them even more which is a win win :)
I’m ok .. woke up jittery as usual but carried on as normal and then the jittery as passed
But I know prob later I’ll get same as it’s been happening last couple evenings but not too intense but be nice not to have it .. still awaiting period so it’s just a waiting game :)
Have cleaned up .. been shops and now cooking shepherds pie
I get bored not doing much but I’m not ready to do my usual things just yet until I get more control over my body
I can’t wait to go into town and do few things but I take each day as it comes :)
I’ve read so many on here today suffering with aniexty/panic before starting HRT on HRT .. I just will never quite understand it
I hope you have a great day Suzy and I hope things start looking up :)
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I think I spoke too soon. My day went downhill. I got very tearful this afternoon. Had a go at my husband for breathing, then felt so bad and cried for about 2 hours!
Tomorrow is another day………
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Sorry your day went down hill , how are you feeling now ??
Hope your evening is better & yes tomorrow is another day .. let’s hope a better one
My day as been long lol .. I’m up at crack of dawn so always seems like the days are extra extra long
What I would give for a lay in.
Tonight I feel ok just feel really warm I’ve been jittery on and off all day but I much rather that lol than aniexty though ..
Tomorrow is 7 weeks for me off HRT .. I hope it’s a good week xx
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Do you wake up early because of the anxiety or have you always been an early bird?
I’m walking early because of the anxiety. It does make for a longer morning, when I feel worse.
7 weeks…. Hopefully you will see a lot of improvement come the end of the week.
I think I’m nearly week 5 ? I’m not sure of exact dates, I didn’t write it down.
Let’s hope for peaceful sleep tonight x
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I’ve always got up early for work so was like clockwork , but since aniexty it’s earlier .. which as you say makes a longer morning
I used to wake up and beable to go back to sleep on days off for extra hour .. now once my eyes are open they are open ..
I’ve never been a great sleeper ever .. but got worse with aniexty ..
I remember the date lol .. I didn’t write it down just remembered ..
5 weeks Suzy hope you start to feel relief from now on :)
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Really bad anxiety this morning.
I don’t understand why I’m feeling worse? I thought things were getting easier.
I’ve resorted to taking a diazepam this morning to try and stop my constant leg jigging and restlessness.
Unless I’m having another hormonal drop…. I can’t think what is going on.
Sigh.
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Sorry to hear this Suzy , could it be your AD also .. as heard it gets worse before better with AD ( just a thought )
I did when I came off patches get Bad Aniexty daily as we have previously discussed , but at some point you expect it to be less Intense
I hope you start to feel relaxed soon Suzy
Did you have vaccine for covid Suzy ??
Seems a lot of people who have had vaccine have suffered with hormone changes also after having those …
Hope your ok xx
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Yes, I had the vaccine. The first one gave me a frozen shoulder. The second was ok. Didn’t notice a difference in hormones.
I really don’t know what is ramping my anxiety up. It’s very disappointing :'(
How are you feeling this morning?
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I wonder if it could be hormones and Ad so like double whammy maybe ??
I just hope you feel yourself soon
I’m ok , finally have period ..so have usual aches & crampy & slight headache
feel bit jittery but hoping it all passes as the day goes on
I hope your day gets better Suzy x x
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I’m glad to hear your period is finally here. Hopefully you will feel better for it.
Yes, maybe a double whammy. My hot flushes have increased too, so it could be down to another drop…. And I may just not be there yet with the citalopram
Trying to chill…. And eat something… my appetite has completely disappeared.
Xx
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Hopefully Suzy you feel relaxed soon , could most definitely be double whammy
I had bad hot flushes after coming off the patches & night time ones .. I had never had these before .. this was in week 4 if I remember correctly & I remember saying to my husband it’s getting worse .. but then things started easing slowly
Hopefully your in the last of the withdrawal from patches ( hopefully)
My appitite went & I always felt sick but made my self eat to have bit of strength
My appitite is better now .. so I think the aniexty & withdrawal played a big part in that also
I hope for better days for us ..
I’m hoping after this period that I start to feel more like myself although I will still take each day as it comes & I’ll expect the unexpected…
Xx
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I haven’t been able to swim today, or yesterday, so I think that can have a bit of a negative affect…. I feel like I need to plunge into the cold water to calm myself down.
Hormones >:(
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How was the rest of your day Suzy ??
Hope it got better
I’ve had a lazy day but weather hasn’t been great here
Hormones……… I hate them lol
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Not a great day Michelle… I’ve had better.
Feeling meh ….. really tired of feeling like this :'(
I’m glad you had a lazy day….. do you feel better for it? X
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Oh Suzy I hope tomorrow is a better day for you , did you manage to calm down at all .. it’s so tiring as when it was with me constant I used to sit & think how much more I gotta struggle and do this
My day just seems so long especially as I had done all housework & things done by 09.30 this morning, that’s the trouble getting up so early.. husband is always up and out early aswell , so I can crack on.
It’s good to relax , as on period and first few days are always the worst.. but now I’m bored & think today is dragging
Comparing this period to my last one & aniexty wise , this one as so far been minimal and even the lead up to it ( although was still there ) last months lead up was much much much much intense & worse , but was also when I was not long off the patches
Im hoping and praying that will be a good sign but one thing I’ve learnt is take each day as it comes as we just never know & I don’t wanna get my hopes raised to have to deal with that all again
Any plans for this evening Suzy … what time do you go to bed ? Do you sleep well
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Do you feel up to going out for a walk? That could help pass a bit of time?
It sounds like this period was more settled for you. That’s got to be a step in the right direction. I’ve got everything crossed that you are turning that corner! X
I’m not going to be doing much. Me and my husband have started watching the boys , on prime. I’m enjoying it, and it’s great for taking my mind off ‘ me me me’ we normally go to bed around 10.30…. But last week I was so exhausted from the anxiety I was going at 9.
I saw something on TikTok to help with getting to sleep..
Breathe in for 5 , hold for 4, breathe out for 7. It actually works after a few times! X
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I’m in my pjs can’t be bothered now to get dressed hahaha that’s the thing once it comes to evening and I’m washed and in pjs it’s hard to motivate myself .. plus weather is rubbish
I get in bed between 9.30 -10.30… we have always been like that for ages as we get in bed to relax after a days work ( when I was working ) so them times don’t change unless were out or have visitors
& once in bed I drop off when I drop off .. hubby falls asleep usually around 10.30 If we in bed by 10.. he is always up at crack of dawn & he is a builder so always physical work & tiring for him and he falls to sleep so fast .. I’m so jel
I started saying in my mind , I’m relaxed , I’m calm and that helps me drop off and stops the mind wandering & working over time .. wish it would help me sleep all night
I did used to say don’t think don’t think ( I had read this somewhere ) but my CBT therapist said that’s like I’m giving my mind a order to do somthing so it will try and do something he said so don’t give it an order , just tell it your relaxed
Enjoy your programme , I’m not doing much tonight as husband will be watching football as Chelsea are playing so I’ll probably ring my son and have a chat with him that will pass time away for me then it will be bed time
Ready for a better day tomorrow :)
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Yes, I forgot football was on. My lot are Chelsea fans…. So I’m just on the iPad!
I didn’t mean go for a walk now lol…. At some point in the day to break the day up x
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Oh loool .. yeah normally ive been making my self go out .. but weather wise today I didn’t bother , I know it’s not the attitude but that was today’s haha
Oh my husband is Chelsea and I’m Liverpool
Where you from Suzy ?
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Morning Suzy
Just checking in to see how you feel today ?
Hope your ok and your morning as been better Xx
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Hi Michelle,
I’m in Dorset. Where are you?
I’m doing a bit better today. My husband made me come out for a walk in the woods with the dog. I was hyper anxious at first… but as we went on I calmed down.
Going to head to the beach for a swim in a bit. Going to go it alone today as my friend can’t make it.
How is your day going? X
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That’s great Suzy :) so glad your day seems better
Mine as been ok and been out also .. small steps lead to bigger ones that’s what I keep telling myself
Enjoy your swim .. must be so nice to live near the beach
I live in Kingston Upon Thames
I’m originally from Wolverhampton.. but lived in Kingston for 20 plus years ( husband is from here )
Enjoy your day Suzy :) xx
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Hi Michelle
Small world I was born in Kingston-upon Thames and now live in Ewell, so not moved far.
I am post menopause but suffering with anxiety been back in HRT for 9 weeks after a years break and finally a little better.
Good you getting better and yes take each day as it comes.
Suzy how lovely to be able to swim in the sea, glad you are feeling a bit better also.
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Oh wow Hbhigg we could be neighbours lol
I’m sorry you have been suffering with aniexty.. it’s worse thing for me so far on this journey
I’m glad the hrt is starting to help , I will consider it again in the future but for now I will try and see how far I can go without it. I’m in peri early into it aswell
I still been having periods and was always regular then became closer and all other symptoms lead me to HRT
But I think my body wasn’t ready for it as everything seem to get worse daily
I’ve been off patches 7 weeks now and I do feel better in myself and soon I hope to be how I was before patches which in fairness wasn’t as bad as I’ve been the past few months.. the withdrawal from patches as been horrendous
Why did you stop HRT first time around ?
I hope you continue to have better days and I hope you have the regime you need :)
I can’t wait to do my normal every day things like I used too and I know small steps are better than where I was a few weeks/ month ago .. so I take that as a win :)
Do you take anything for your aniexty ??
Xxx
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Hi Michelle
Sorry for this long post :)
When I was In peri I only had very heavy periods and migraines that I managed to live with but post menopause I got v bad hot flushes night sweats, which we’re getting worse but I hadn’t started HRT.
Then 2 years post menopause I had a tick bite and Lyme disease rash and took antibiotics had no other symptoms felt fine.
but 2 months later it sets of terrible health anxiety with heart palpitations, had some emergency diazepam as having nil sleep nights tried Citrilopram but made everything 100 times worse only managed 3 days.
Heart checked out ok and started HRT which seemed to stop anxiety.
2 years on I had some breast tenderness and so cut my patches in half which worked well then last year during lockdown I thought I would try stopping and felt great for 3 months then health anxiety and heart symptoms started again,worst ever, had some diazepam then tried Sertraline but could do more than 3 days because I couldn’t sleep at all and anxiety hit an all time high.
Had to wait for heart all-clear before I could restart HRT and the same week I did I got another tick bite.
This is where it gets complicated!
4 weeks into HRT I had a couple of days of much worse fatigue and as this is also a symptom of tick Lyme disease I started a 21 day course of antibiotics. After that I still wasn’t sleeping and felt v tired also muscle aches so more antibiotics,now coming to the end of 2nd lot.
My problem now is is my anxiety menopause related or Chronic Lyme disease from my original bite, both things have anxiety, muscle & heart symptoms.
Have to see what happens when the antibiotics are finished. Also down to half a patch again as I wondered if they were giving me muscle ache which have gone.
Awaiting blood tests but shortages mean they are on hold
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Oh wow .. you have been through it.
It’s madness how a bite can do this ..I hope this lot of antibiotics help you I can imagine you wanting to know your self what’s what ..hopefully you get to do bloods soon and know answers .. how you feeling in yourself ??
my CBT therapist said to me that sometimes the aniexty can be sitting there just waiting to appear .. think that because you said 2 months later it started
Mine could be from Covid ( I had end of January) Vaccines I had end March and beginning June .. or hormones
But pin pointing which was the cause was and still is hard
I thought & think hormones
Before I started HRT I had one episode of aniexty .. this was 3 weeks after vaccine & but happen to have a period day after .. then another period 10 days later .. that’s why I started HRT as I used to get hot not so much flush but stay hot .. palpitations daily , and aches and pains in all different places ..
after starting HRT first week felt great…
Then started noticing little things .. after 2nd vaccine in June .. 12 days later my symptoms got worse ( was on hrt ) & I happen to get a period same time .. my symptoms that was worse was I was getting burning pain in ribs, aniexty was through the roof daily .. jittery ness . Nervous , palpitations , shaking and feeling of head rush constant dizziness and just seemed like worse than before
And this continued and didn’t get a break from it , so I took patch off 27th july can remember that day like yesturday lol because I couldn’t handle it no more .. but after taking off patch things got worse as in the aniexty went to a level I have never known .. I took proponol but it wasn’t for me , as much as it stopped the shakes I couldn’t handle the feeling of the tablet and also the lack of sleep since I had taken the tablet.
I had been told it could take 3-6 months to come out system and I had only actually used HRT for 3.5 months
The coming off the patch symptoms was by far worse for me than on the patch but I knew I had to do somthing as you know yourself sometimes these things get overwhelming
I’m 7 weeks off now & past 2 weeks the aniexty as not been so bad as in bad I mean not so intense .. so I’m hoping that means my own hormones are levelling.
I have a period and the aniexty didn’t get high like it had previously .. but was aware it was there. I got that bad in the midst of all this that I stopped going out .. so now small steps is what I do
But reading on here people saying the vaccine actually set of symptoms for them .. so I’m wondering could I have had a mixture of both … who knows lol
It’s bloody awful I know that much .. did you have vaccines ??
I wish I was like you in peri just a few symptoms .. although any symptoms are bad .: you did well to go so long without help .. I just jumped straight in and I actually sit and think maybe I didn’t quite need it and I’ve overloaded myself with hormones and caused the aniexty
It’s so mad how it can come on like that for so many different reasons and we will never know.
I looked up what Lyme disease rash looked like as I wouldn’t have a clue .. looks painful … is it painful ?
What do you think in your mind that’s causing it ??
I hope you get answers soon.. these blood sample bottle shortages are bizzare
I have my blood taken quite regular as I’m on warfrain .. next week I’m going back to the finger **** .. which in hindsight is better as I can get results same day .. where if I do via vein at Kingston I get results few days later ( unless it’s bad then they phone ) so Me going back to finger **** saves a extra bottle for someone who needs it.
Only thing different is times I can walk in and out within 5 min on a vein blood test lol
Do you still get palpitations etc ?
I still get them but not so intense as it past couple months .. I’m hoping is a good sign ..
Xxx
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Well I think it’s hormones (at least I hope it is)
The rash doesn’t hurt at all and this time I had no rash.
I did have the vaccines but didn’t seem to have any side effects.
Only work 2 days a week and mainly on my own so that has made it easier, haven’t stopped getting out and about, still go running with friends and to Yoga.
My children are grown up although one still at home so all in I don’t have a stressful life which makes this so frustrating.
My husband has been wonderfully supportive. I really feel I am in a better place over this last month, some days no anxiety at all but most days it is there but at a lower level than before, also sleep has improved a lot to about 5 even 6 hours.
Fingers crossed for all of us suffering that we will soon be happy again
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Ohhh so deffo could be hormones.
Im glad you don’t have rash and pain .. it looked painful what I looked up.
My aniexty as lessoned in past few weeks also .. although same as you I know it’s there but not as intense as it was when it over took my life
I started getting to do things each day and make myself go out.
My son is 28 and lives in Wolverhampton so I always try and get to him whenever possible and also he visits us
I used to work in a kitchen, I loved job and also hours then this struck at first I was ok and carried on then after 2nd jab even tho I had no symptoms from the actual 2nd jab but 12 days later I had another big aniexty and that’s when I was signed off work as it’s not good working in a kitchen environment when I was in that state .. especially when I’ve gone from the joker of the place to a nervous wreck
I’m hoping to get Bck to me as soon as possible.. I would say it was towards end of July that it was at its worst but was happening most days since June but where I would still venture out .. towards end of July I would only go out if I was with husband in car .. & then end of august was when I ventured out alone .. those weeks in July & august was the worst for me as in the aniexty was sky high which could have been also because I took off patch so withdrawing from them
I go out each day now & soon I hope I’m Bck at work doing the jokes again
I wanna go into town just because before I would always do it .. I wanna pick up my Christmas cards hahaha
Madness how it can effect us all very different .. but I’m glad that you manage to still do your things and not let it beat you .. it beat me but I’m now taking that control back :)
I’m glad you been getting better sleeps
I drop off easily now where before I didn’t but it’s staying asleep that I have problems with lol .. but I always say soon enough I will have a great sleep :)
It’s always good to have a good husband .. mine listens when I’ve banged on .. he as also felt it when he as seen me how I’ve been , said he couldn’t help which frrustated him and said broke his heart that all these years he can always help and this was out of his control
But he sees an improvement and said one thing aniexty didn’t take was my sarcastic mouth 🤣🤣
He don’t understand it all , I’m like how can you neither do I and I’m experiencing it .. but he always said whatever happens we do it together and that and listening for me was enough ..
I used to say what if I’m like this forever .. but I’m positive thinking now and I know it won’t be forever because I won’t allow it to be xx
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Hbhigg, limes disease can have really long lasting affects if not treated, but as you have managed to spot it and have the anti biotics hopefully you will be ok..
Hormones have a lot to answer for. I really had no idea hormones could have such an effect on my mental health. I was fine before HRT… then within a week of stopping I was plunged into the worst anxiety ever. I’m on week 5 I think of stopping HRT and week 4 of citalopram ( ish) .. the citalopram has been really hard to adjust to… but I was in such a state anyway I couldn’t tell if it was hormonal or medication… but I’ve stuck it out so I can get some relief. I won’t be using HRT again… I think I’m just not suited to it.
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Suzy how’s your day been ??
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Michelle,
Your husband sounds so supportive and lovely.
It was a miserable summer for you wasn’t it.
Sigh….. anxiety is such a life altering affliction to have …. I say to my husband what if I’m stuck like this forever too….. it’s scary! X
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My day has been much better. I’ve eaten all of my dinner too!
How about you? X
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That’s great news Suzy ..
my appitite was one of the first things I noticed got better :)
My day as been good :) have eaten way too much but that’s because of all the time i wasn’t eating lol 😂
I lost weight ( in all fairness I needed too ) but I like to try and lose it not it just come off
I can feel my belly filling out lol
I’m loving my food now and long May it continue
Xxx
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I’ve lost all the weight I had put on … I had put about a stone on just in the short time I was on HRT…. But I’d much rather be happy with more weight, than skinny and a wreck!!lol
I’m glad you’ve got your appetite back . It’s so nice to enjoy food!!
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I went from 12.4 ( I had eaten loads since lockdown lol ) and went down to 10.9 from losing appetite
Although I’m eating I’m only 10.10 so that’s all good and like you say Suzy I would rather be chunky and happy than skinny and a nervous wreck..
I said I’ll never worry about my weight again .. ( I will lol )
I was always between 9.13 and 10.7 so going into 12s was like yeah I’ll diet next week stuffing my face 😂😂
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How you doing Suzy … hope you have had a good morning and afternoon :)
I got up felt jittery but passed so I went for a walk to mother in laws and back .. quick visit
Then I had lunch and knew husband was working local
So thought I would surprise him with a cold drink and some lunch
So I started walking there , got stopped on way by 3 people ( mates ) I felt a tad nervous as I just wanted to carry on kinda thing .. but I spoke to them briefly and carried on walking then went up the wrong street and panicked myself hahahahaha not bad , but was thinking omg .. 😂😂 my heart was pumping my chest felt tight but didn’t make me panick like I have before .. but could feel it
I phoned husband to find out name of street & he wasn’t at the job anyways lol
As he had gone for materials & was on his way back
He picked me up from where I was ( one street out lol ) and took me his job .. I stayed with him around 20 mins and he was like would you like a lift home , I’m like no I will walk … and I walked back :)
So today Michelle won
Now I’m back home and enjoying the bit of sun we have ( I’m sat outside on patio ) laughing at myself for panicking..
that’s the furthest I’ve gone alone & for me that’s a good thing .. I was joking saying I’ll be in Sainsbury’s next .. which is further lol and I used to walk here each day before all this happened
I will get there I know I will and I’ll do a selfie and send it him and everyone hahaha ..
Hope you have had a great day Suzy
Xx
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Wow Michelle
Well done, you have really smashed it today. So pleased for you.
I am also better today, been to work and off for a run with friends later.
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I’m so happy you had a good day Hbhigg
It’s always nice to have good days :)
I felt good for doing it .. even in the panic lol I’m still outside enjoying this last bit of nice weather as seems to-change tomorrow
It’s mad how something so simple today I feel great for .. when just a few months ago this would be a daily thing .. I only hope things start to get better each day for us all
Enjoy your run Hbhigg
I used to run on treadmill Years ago and loved it then I got lazy and stopped doing it ..
Xxxx
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Oh wow…. That’s a huge step Michelle!! Well done!
It’s crazy isn’t it how things we didn’t have to think about make us nervous now!
Just think how far you’ve come… a couple of weeks ago you would have probably cried and been overwhelmed… but you managed it with only mild panic!
My day has been better too… went out this morning with my husband and walked the dog… picked some blackberries… then this afternoon had a sea swim. The weather was gorgeous….
The mornings are still very hard and I always wake up and start feeling anxious….. and as I get tired in the evening I hit a bit of a wall and get a bit anxious… but I’m getting there… so it’s a win for Suzy too!!! :)
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Wooo well done Suzy a win for you too
I usually wake jittery to be honest and evening the past week I can feel it in the Background and usually around 5 I feel nauseous but passes .. I’ve noticed these things but much much much much better than a few weeks/months ago
The weather was lovely here today also :)
Let’s hope we have many more good days too come … can handle bad days when they ain’t every day
I can usually tell from morning how the day is going to be
Xxxx
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Another ok day so far.
The anxiety and jitteryness is still there, but it is not overwhelming me and is bearable.
Took the dog out a bit further on my own…. Didn’t feel like I had jelly for legs and didn’t feel like I needed to get home after 5 minutes.
Had a nice sea swim… refreshing, calming and cool… love it. I’m almost dreading the colder weather arriving as I won’t be able to go.
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Good to hear Suzy …
Same as me another good day although I’ve not done much but feel ok
Still lingers in back ground but not enough to keep me down ..
Hopefully this continues for us both :)
I hate the jelly legs .. but don’t always get them now .. but occasionally they pop to say hello ..
Been a nice day here again today .. not as warm as yesterday but still pleasant
Hope the rest of your day continues to be a good day Suzy :)
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Thanks Michelle
I’m glad you have had another good day. Hopefully we are starting to turn a corner…. But I’m not going to get too hopeful, I know it’s 2 steps forward one step back… but it feels so nice just to not be totally overwhelmed and in tears !
Xx
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Hi Suzy & Michelle
I too am having a good day, hopefully we are all on the road to recovery.
Suzy, could you get a wetsuit for the winter, open water swimming is supposed to be so good for you, there are a couple of swimming lakes not too far from me but I haven’t tried it yet :)
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Brilliant Hbhigg
Always good to read the good days ..
same Suzy one day at a time ..
Let’s hope it’s a start of things to come , as I’ve said before dont ever mind the bad days if they aren’t every day ..
I would much prefer never to have a bad day but that’s pushing it I think haha
Hope you both have a good evening , I have nothing planned but food and relax and watch tv ..
Relax i do so much of that lol .. roll on the day I’m back 100% myself so I can not relax so much
Xx
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So I spoke too soon….
We had a conservatory roof salesman visit for a quote….. he was here 1 1/2 hours giving his pitch… I was getting more and more anxious. When he left, my husband made a loud breathing noises ( which has become one of my noise sensitivity triggers) and I had such a scary physical response to it, the blood literally drained from my legs and I felt faint… I then cried for about 2 hours….. feeling dreadful again today.
I’m so upset all my progress has been totally undone….. and I’m petrified of having that extreme physical reaction to a sound. :'(
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Hi Suzy
Don’t panic we can’t expect things to go completely smoothly I’m sure, just remember that you can feel better and you will get over this.
I feel a little more anxious this morning, but as you, I have things going on that I am worrying a little about.
The trouble is before all this started we would just shrug of a slightly anxious day without much thought but now it makes us panic that things will spiral again, I am sure they won’t.
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Any consolation ladies
Last night I had a big aniexty/panic and I can’t even tell you why ..
I was sitting doing nothing , well was actually ordering something online , then my chest felt tight .. so I think that’s where the panic set in & I was so close to phoning 111 as this was so strong
But I got on my bed and through tears relaxed and tried breathing it through
I was shaking .. divvering and then saying to my husband I don’t want to die
Was bloody awful
It passed like it normally does and im here and im fine but now im trying not to think about it ( which is the hard part )
I didn’t sleep great but I slept
I was thinking how that happen & why again
My husband said what you have to remember is it will pass .. & I know he is right but in those moments thats last thing I think of .. when panic sets in it sets in.
He said all your bloods are fine remember that ( his way of reassuring me I’m fine ) but in those moments I don’t even think i am fine .. bloody awful
I find all this really bizarre that I’ve never ever experienced this until this year and now it’s part of my life & will it ever go
Will I ever be fully me again
I expect bad days but when they come on like that it freaks me out a little LOT
I hope you ladies are ok
Suzy I’m sorry you have had a bad morning and I hope your day gets better
And Hbhigg I hope your anxious feelings pass also
Today I’m gonna try and crack on as best as I can ..
Hope you both have good days and this mornings feelings pass ladies xxx
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Hbhigg, I am trying to hold on to the thought that I can and will get better. I feel so tearful today, I think it shocked me as it came out of nowhere… because up until then I felt quite‘ stable’ .
Michelle… I’m so sorry that happened to you. Must have been terrifying. I hope you can try and keep going today. It’s so scary that these things hit us like a hammer out of the blue.
It just goes to show …. We’ve got a long way to go!
I’ve been for a swim, taken the dog around the block….. all whilst feeling like im not really me doing it… does anyone relate to that feeling… sort of like an anxious shaking robot on autopilot!
Might try and have a nap in the garden.. the weather is lovely.
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Suzy that’s good you have got out and carried on … and yes I always feel like I’m not me when it happens .. strange out of body but not out of body feeling
I got up shaky and jittery but i plodded on and did all housework , washing , ironing then had shower and now I’m gonna walk to the shop .. usually feeling like this I wouldn’t wanna do anything so all above is a bonus :)
I still feel jittery think it’s here for the day .., but I’m gonna carry on as best as I can :)
It was a shock to just come on like that but for me I think when my chest felt tight I panicked and obviously made myself worse but I can’t stop the panic kinda thing when it happens it happens
Hope your day gets better xxx
It’s a lovely day today make the most of it … we are lucky to have these days
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These sunny days that meant to say lol
I’ve been to and from local shop & now back in doors gonna do sit outside for a while and hope that today’s feelings pass as quick as they come ..
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Yes I too get that out of body feeling where my head feels like it’s in a fog!
Have been busy preparing a ham for my husbands aunts funeral on monday( she had no children so as she lived close by us and my sister in law looked after her)
Also prepared shepherds pie and and chocolate courgette cake ( have to use them up so many have grown this year in the garden) for tomorrow when my son and his fiancé come down from Hull for the funeral, which is nice even though for a sad occasion. Off to chat to the curate about the service soon then out for dinner with other relatives.
So all in all being busy has helped.
Have a good day
Helen
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You have been busy Helen .. keeping busy is good sometimes :)
Sorry about your aunty
I have my dad funeral a week on Tuesday I hope I’m ok for it.. I will most definitely show my face .. he lived in Ipswich so we will go evening before :( sad occasion
It’s good your aunt had people around her.
Enjoy the rest of your day xxx
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Helen, I’m glad you have coped well with your busy day.
Michelle, I’m so sorry to hear about your dad. Maybe that’s why you’re feeling so bad?
I ended up going to bed for a couple of hours . I feel like I’ve taken a massive step back. Feeling overwhelmed by anxiety 😥
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Oh Suzy .. your day sounds like mine it’s been on and off all day … I’m now sitting down where I much rather go to bed
My dad passed away on 2/9 .. that’s one thing that made me keep pushing forward as he wouldn’t want me to be like this .. and all was good on and off until yesterday… hopefully tomorrow is a better day for us both
I’m sitting here now and I can feel me being shaky and jittery but I’m trying to relax and just go with the flow .. felt bit tearful today as in filling up a lot when I think of how was last night and my husband having to hear me say that I think I’m dying :( I hate him seeing me like this and should never hear these words from my mouth
So every time I’ve looked at him I’ve filled up …. Bloody hormones wish they would settle
Suzy I hope you feel better as the evening goes on … I can see me getting into bed and watching tv in there early tonight .. just to try and relax myself
Xxxx
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I’m sorry you’ve been so tearful today. My eye taps have been turned on today too…. I think I’ve got a leak!!
Now you’ve said about loosing your dad, it makes so much sense how much you are struggling. I lost my dad about 5 years ago, the first year was an emotional blur…. But I had to stay strong for my mum …. Then I lost my sister last year… same thing, I had to stay strong, organise the funeral ( was pretty easy as it was during Covid restrictions) and support mum and her 2 kids who have Aspergers. When I’m at my lowest I think of my sisters last breath, and how she’s no longer here… but I am and now I’m wasting my life being stuck like this……. It’s horrible.
You will be deeply shocked by the physical feelings you had yesterday, you are bound to feel tearful and frightened when you remember them, they were so bad you felt like you were dying… it will take a few days to get over it, don’t try and force yourself to get on with stuff….. lay in bed if you need to…. Sit in the garden. Cry when you need to……. This will pass for you….. as it will for all of us. Xxxxxx hugs xxxx
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Thankyou Suzy .. things will get better because they have too :) I know yesterday was a blip and today is probably because of yesturday .. it as to be .. I don’t wanna move backwards .. as I’m not going that way ( headstrong )
Sorry to hear about your dad and sister such an awful thing grief is .. and being strong for others is what I’ve been trying to do with my 2 younger sisters ..
We lost my sister in law in July .. I was so gutted as I couldn’t do the funeral because of this aniexty .. my husband went for us both .. my brother and family all understood as they knew I would be there if my body was capable without all the aniexty ., I didn’t wanna sit there and have attention on me and people making sure I was ok when it was her day not mine and didn’t wanna have a full blown panick in the church ( was bad in august that’s when her funeral was ) ..my sister in law would have understood.. she was 48 :(
My dad was 68 and when I got the call he had collapsed I was like he is a fighter he will be ok and he will be fine just like the footballer was
Then I got the call that he had passed away :( that day was awful and so emotional .. cry and laugh at memories and cry more and laugh more
I do feel so sad that I’ll never see him again but i hold him close in my heart always .. we lost my nephew 2 years ago he was 28 ., I’ve never got over that and usually sit and cry randomly about him but I know what you mean about grief .. sneaks up when it wants too ..
I’m strong person usually and don’t show my emotions but lately they come when they come ( not daily ) but I can be sitting there and just think about them all and sob
My son heard me cry for first time in 28 years .. as I’ve never been a cry in front of people person .. but when all that was happening with sis in law .. then dad it’s like I had a leak too ..
Things will get better Suzy for us both , because they have too ..
We have to try stay strong and move forward ..
I’m quite pleased that today I actually did what I needed and wanted to do as didn’t want to have another set back..
We all thought news of my dad would set me back ., but it kinda pushed me forward as he would never want me to be like this ..
How you feeling now ? Do you have any plans for tonight .. Hope you feel better as the evening goes on
Xx
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I’m glad you are feeling so determined to be strong for your dad. … and I’m sorry you didn’t make your sister in laws funeral.
I don’t like to cry in front of anyone either, especially the boys ( I’ve got 3) . I try and hide it and just pretend I’m ok. Probably not good for us really….
I’m not great. Very anxious. Yesterday’s set back has affected me deeply I think. It’s going to take a while to get back there I think.
I’m just going to chill on the sofa and look on my iPad!!
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I’m very anxious tonight also mind you as been on and off most the day , I’ve just laid on bed & put tv on
I have to be headstrong or this will destroy me & I let it do that for a while.
I just keep thinking I had so many better days they must be due to come back soon again .. these blips can’t be forever I hope and pray they won’t be.
I always look on phone or iPad .. I have the tv on but never really watch the tv it’s just background
My sis was just on the phone sobbing her heart out.
My mom and dad divorced when we was in our teens .. but they remained good friends and my mom introduced him to his now wife as she said she didn’t like to see him alone … so he had me and my brothers with my mom then, Years later had my two sisters with his wife
We have always kept in touch and had a relationship with our dad but we have lived different areas , so wasn’t seeing him daily
Where as the two girls who are 30,31 have never known a life without him so I always try be there for them to keep them going .. and hearing them break their hearts , breaks mine :(
Such an emotional rollercoaster for us all at the moment and with all this aniexty on top it’s like … wooooahhhhhh give me a break ..
Suzy we will move on from this .. we just struggling at the moment but the struggle won’t last forever
I’m surprised your AD ain’t helping you yet.. I’ve read a AD that they have all said helped with aniexty been mentioned on this site a lot begins with M
Xx
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Mirtazapine That’s the name .. apparently it’s good for aniexty
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Have dragged myself out of bed into the garden this morning. Overwhelmed by anxiety. I have taken a propranolol to see if that will calm me down a bit. I don’t want to be taking diazepam every day.
I’m going to ring the dr tomorrow morning . Maybe the citalopram isn’t working for me. I’ll be nearly on week 5 of it and there’s only been a few better days. I’m sure I would be feeling better by now.
Sigh…….
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Hi Suzy .. I hope your day gets better ..
This aniexty is too much at times
Today is same for me
I had a banging headache last night which as stayed all through the night and this morning & still now .. didn’t sleep great with it throbbing
My Body just feels not right it’s one thing after another these past few days .. but what’s point phoning up places they just tell me it’s aniexty which winds me up.
I don’t normally get bad headaches had about 3 I would say in past year but this one as been on since last night .. I don’t mind niggly headaches as they pass but this one is getting on my nerves
I try not to take too much medication and I only take paracetamol to be honest
I got up out the bed and have just cooked a roast , and shoved all washing up in dish washer as I just can’t be bothered to do it by hand ( normally I would )
Hopefully this headache wears off .. last time I took tabs was 07.45 so I can take some but I hate having to keep popping pills .. 4head ain’t helping but I keep putting it on lol
I have used my sinus spray which I haven’t really had to use since April but Im hoping it helps as my ears feel clogged kinda thing so wondering if all connected as I felt slight sore throat other day ..
Why can’t we just have good days .. sometimes these things take their toll on your body and get fed up with it ..
Suzy I hope your day gets better and I hope you get answers off the GP
Think usually they say 4-6 with AD
But sometimes they help before ..
I’ve never taken them to be honest so I’m clueless on them just know what I read.
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Your headache might be hormonal. I get one that lasts 3 days no matter what I take ( and I’ll pop any pill, I’m not fussy) I’ve had one the last couple of days.
Well, the propranolol knocked me out for a good couple of hours… won’t be taking that again!
Husband drove me down to the beach for a swim… but I had a panic attack on the way, so had to come back.
I’m so sick of feeling so anxious… my whole body is feeling ill.
Surely it can’t be good to feel in a constant state of high anxiety? I’m worried about getting adrenal fatigue if it carries on much longer.
Sigh… a couple of good days, then wham.
At least you were able to cook and eat a roast Michelle… I’ve been fit for nothing today. :'(
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Oh Suzy I’m so sorry you are having a bad day, at my worst (which was for 3 months during lockdown) the feelings were constant and I couldn’t di hardly any cooking or housework.
Michelle I get annoying headaches and they usually stay for at least a day tablets don’t do anything.
Had a lovley meal out last night. And felt good, but today tired (chest feel like it has a weight on it and eyes heavy) also a little jittery. Have been out for run and shopping, just waiting for son to arrive.
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Suzy sorry your having another bad day
I did think it might be hormonal as the past 2 I had previously was hormonal Well that’s what I put it down too … I’m not on a period anymore that’s what made me think maybe this one wasn’t but who knows with our bodies ..
I’ve just eaten my roast ( well roasters and Yorkshire puds and bit of chicken ) I don’t eat veg or anything so you wouldn’t call mine a roast .. no trimmings on my plate but all on husbands
Usually I eat at certain times but today this head as thrown me off my usual routine of eating plus didn’t fancy food when cooking it .. and I haven’t been hungry all day but have now demolished it because I know I’ve gotta eat … hoping might help with this poxy head of mine ..
Suzy it’s awful always feeling crap .. I thought yay things getting better then bang take that .. although I would say it’s not as intense as before as in 5 weeks ago but all the same it’s there and it’s getting on my tits now.. and then when you get added aches and pains it’s like jeeeeeeeeeez go away
Apart from the roast I’ve done nothing I’ve been on our bed browsing the Internet and tv on in back ground .. I’m bored of relaxing but my body needs it why it’s like this … winds me up
And this is the politest I’ve ever spoke about it .. if you was here you would most definitely hear bleep bleep bleep bleep
I didn’t like proponol and have not took it in over a month I couldn’t function on it .. although it did stop some of the symptoms but no I couldn’t handle it and I couldn’t sleep when I took it.
My doc wouldn’t give me diazepam basically take proponol n AD or go without more or less
Sorry you didn’t get to swim .. bloody awful when those panic attacks just come on .. and it don’t matter if it’s first one or 20th one they are still scary
I’m like you Suzy had enough
I wouldn’t be able to handle this for the rest of my life no Chance ..
I still hope and pray that we have good days ..
I’m waiting for my dinner to go down and getting back on our bed .. nothing more can be done today
Damn stupid hormones , damn stupid body ..
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Hi Helen
Glad you had a lovely evening & I hope your son arrives soon ..
I also hope the feelings you have pass ..
I hope this headache is only here for today.. feels like it’s an all over one but mainly at back do like a tension one .. I haven’t took any tabs since this morning as I hate taking them when they don’t help , but 4head as been used all day
My friend said to put vicks on my feet .. dunno what it’s meant to do , never heard of tht before , plus I have none anyways
I wonder if 4head do the same thing lol
Hope as the day goes on your feelings disappear Helen and you enjoy time with your son
I miss my son and miss him not living so close .. but I’m always on phone and video call with him Xx
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I’m glad you had such a nice time Helen. Hopefully you’re just having a bit of a wobble as you’re tired.
I’m not coping with housework or cooking either. My poor husband has to do it all.
Have a lovely time with your son xx
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Michelle… lol… you made me laugh saying it’s getting on your tits now! At least we can find a bit of humour in this shitstorm !
I’ve tried to stay out of bed today… saying that I’ve just been laying in the garden or on the sofa… same difference really!
Had a couple of calmer hours after the bath… but can feel the anxiety creeping in a bit now……
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That was as polite as I could be hahaa
one of my dads sayings that I picked up lol
I usually stay off the bed to be honest unless I’ve been really bad , I’ve made the bed and cleaned this morning I’m just sat on top of it creasing it’s and making it look messy lol
I always find it my go to place when it’s gets too bad , I dunno why as like you say i can lay on sofa or outside we have had rain today , but for some unknown reason the bed seems to be my go too .. even my husband is like what’s the difference in sofa and bed and I’m like dunno it’s just the bed seems to be where I need to go lol ( all in my head )
Glad you had a few calm hours and hopefully the anxious feelings dissapear
My head as overtook everything today so that’s getting more attention than the aniexty .. I have fan on in the bedroom and sat here with a lovely breeze I’ll be telling you I’m cold later
I actually can’t wait for bedtime to sleep.. I wouldn’t sleep tonight if I dropped off now .. not that I sleep much anyways but the bit I do get I prefer to keep to evening time.
Good old Columbo on tv ( I’m not watching it ).. wonder if he can come and work on my case and find out where this came from and when it’s gonna end lol
Have you any plans for evening Suzy xx
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My husband calls the bed ‘ the pit of dispair’ when I take to it. I think it’s because it’s comfy, quiet and safe. .. but it does do me good to get out of the pit and mix with the other humans in the house!
My husband and son are watching football… so I’m on the iPad…. Researching on here about martazapine ( can’t spell) I’m going to suggest it to the dr tomorrow.
I know they say 6-8 weeks for ads to work, but I would have thought I’d have more better days than bad by week 5.
Get columbo to investigate my case too……….
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Oh… and just to add my hot flushes are back with a vengeance… they disappeared on HRT…. But now they’re back…. Yay!
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Haaa it’s always good to interact with humans for a while 😂😂
My husband is at work , he will be gutted he isn’t back for the football
I’ve heard a lot of people on about the AD and saying it’s helped with aniexty fast
It was suggested to someone on a thread and apparently helps sleep also
Can’t think where I actually read it but was on here. ( obviously we all different but can’t be bad if loads are mentioning it )
I wrote down the name thinking of If ever decide to use AD I want that one ( if i can on warfrain )
I’ve been purchasing Christmas presents because I’ve nothing better to do
I always look forward to Christmas as we usually go on holiday .. the holiday is booked but we are taking each day as it comes .. so hopefully by then I’m ok & feel good enough to go .. husband said it not we will change it for another date .. awful not being able to plan as dont know what each day is gonna bring
Enjoy the reading on the AD and I hope if your doc gives you , I hope that it works for you and helps you feel better
When reading i was very tempted to say actually I want that
But I’ll see how things go for now :)
I wonder if the hot flushes back means the hormones are out of your system or slowly coming out
I have aches and pains that I used to have before HRT back .. my arthritis plays up too in my fingers ( on HRT it wasn’t so bad )
Small signs makes me think that it’s coming out .. just this aniexty and jitteryness and panic is making me think still have to wait a while for the rest xxx
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I’ve had to cancel our holiday in October. It was for my 50th, but I know I won’t be right by then… and I don’t want to pressure myself into going when I can hardly leave the house!!
Hopefully you will be much better by Christmas x
The hot flushes must mean my levels are going down now. That might be why I’m extra anxious too… and have a headache…. The dr said the hormones will go quickly after I stopped HRT… but this proves it takes weeks for them to start declining.
Your aches and pains sound like they are reappearing as the levels go down too…. It just takes soooo long….
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Awwww it’s bad when we know we can’t do things , sorry you had to cancel
But hopefully you can book up somewhere again soon ..
It was my pharmacist who told me could take 3-6 months for our hormones to level out .. she said because we have added extra the body as got used to it , she said so now they have to get used to not having extra and she said then it as to figure out that it won’t be getting no more and level off
When I was on mini pill for 15/20 years took about 3 month maybe 4 for my body to settle but wasn’t no aniexty coming off that but I do remember feeling agaitated bloated and just not right
But nothing to this extreme
If I ever need to know anything I phone my pharmacist she is lovely and explains everything she can , more informative than the GP because she isn’t pushed for time
I Explained everything to her as in how it all started and She was the one who told me that I shoulda been started on a lower dose not gone straight to 50 and also that maybe my body didn’t need it so I coulda over loaded my hormones which kicked off the aniexty more ..
I wish I could go back to there .. but I can’t .. so have to March forward
I’m gutted about your holiday Suzy.. but I’ll be same if I’m not right .. I’m not going on holiday to sit in a room and shake .. simple as that. Xxx
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I know that if I was to force myself to go, I would end up hysterically crying at my husband breathing loudly….. yes… I do that!! My nerves are shredded and my senses heightened.
When I was pregnant with my last son I had that extreme morning sickness… it’s got a name I can’t remember..but my sense of smell was heightened beyond belief… I was like a dog… I could smell peoples washing on their lines… washing up water in the kitchen through 2 closed doors… the shoe cupboard!! It was miserable and it all made me very sick….. that was obviously hormonal… maybe this time it’s my hearing sensitivity, not smell?? Hmmmm
You’re lucky with your pharmacist… mines rubbish! Ask what anxiety meds are best for me! Lol
I say every day that I regret HRT… but like you say, we can’t go back… just have to Wade through the sea to get to our desert island!! X
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It’s so strange how our body’s react to hormones ..
I agree tho I’m not forcing myself to do anything that I personally think I can’t handle .. I will keep taking small steps ready and willing for the day I can leap
I was thinking earlier I’ve taken my sinus spray… I used this daily for well over a year as I suffered sinus and ear pain all the time from no where !! Nothing was found wrong but pain on and off for well over 2 years and only thing you see on my doctors page is ears/nose I never seen doc about anything else as I’m under the hospital for my blood
When I took HRT .. I noticed I’ve not had to use the spray ..until today I thought oh I need to use my spray
So as the sinus/ear for past 2 years actually been hormonal … I said this to my husband and he just looked at me like I’m a nobhead lol
But it’s wierd ..
I think he looks at me sometimes and thinks where the hell you get all this from lol 😂
He as trouble understanding it as said he watched me go from happy go lucky to a bag of nerves and he can’t see why … join the club mate neither can I lol
He listens and he is always supportive , he will do anything that I can’t do & apart from he tries to help me overcome things.. it wouldn’t faze him if he didn’t have a meal or I hadn’t cleaned because he knows that the reason would be I couldn’t do it.. but that’s what marriage is about helping each other and he always says you made me who I am today ( I didn’t make him grumpy lol ) & I’m forever grateful that you came into my life and we in this together .. and knowing that helps …even though in myself I feel bad he had to see some of the things because he hurts too .. I’m living it he was feeling it.
How does your husband feel about it all ? Does he understand it ? Do your boys know ?
My son just says mom it will pass .. you will be fine I know you will , when he phones he says how are you today .. you had any funny turns lol
I have to laugh to stop myself being sad .. and one thing this aniexty never took was my mouth and sense of humour xx
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My husband is great. Very patient, very understanding… considering he is the source of most of my noise sensitivity he feels bad… but I say it’s not you, it’s the noise… but he does everything without being asked. He just says I’m ill and I will get better. God I hope so!
My older sons know….. my middle son and his girlfriend brought me around a present this week as I’ve been struggling so much.. it was different herbal teas, a herbal rub for women’s hormones, one for sleep, a journal and a worry stone to rub. It was so sweet of them it made me cry * 100% his girlfriends idea!!Lol
My youngest has autism and learning difficulties, so I try and hide it as best I can from him, he gets upset and doesn’t understand… plus he’s got about as much empathy as a flip flop! We just tell him I’m ill. X
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It’s good to have a good family Suzy ❤️ And that’s what drives us forward
Seems your middle son girlfriend is a keeper .. bless them both
It’s good to keep it from the younger son bless him ..
my son just says mom your fragile at the min but soon you be back to your old self .. I always think I hope so.
And same with husband .. I said what if this is me forever now ., he said so be it , we in it together ..
I remember he was on steroids for 8 week course and he was the most snappiest person I’ve ever met and snappy about nothing ..I knew it was the medication but I always pulled him up on it .. and I remember saying .. you wait till I hit menopause pay back is a bitch and we used to laugh about it ….. think I might have jinxed myself 😂😂
My granddaughter is 16 weeks old tomorrow and I remember her sitting on my lap and I’m like .. am I your nutty nana and I have a picture of her on my lap laughing and I keep looking at it laughing thinking wait till your older so I can tell you what you was laughing at.
All laughs aside tho .. we will beat this and this isn’t the rest of our life’s .. this is just us for a short while till our bodies eventually settle .. 100% we will be ok and better
I do look at people my age and think omg how come you look ok & all my school friends at the pub .. and I’m thinking jeez did it just happen to me.
but we never know what someone is feeling underneath xxx
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A tough morning so far and it’s not even 9am!
I was sick last night…. And I’ve been sick again this morning… nothing to bring up.. just going through the motions.
I’ve phoned the drs and am awaiting a call back.
Surely it’s not right to be going backwards? I’ve been on the citalopram 5 weeks now, I would have thought it would be doing something right now?
My anxiety feels like it’s worse than ever… I can’t even face going for a swim.
Bloody hormones!! I’m absolutely burnt out. :'( :'(
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I hope you get a call of GP with some help Suzy
Sorry to hear you are having a bad morning
I was up through the night and didn’t sleep great .. this morning I can feel it brewing & I think it’s because I have hospital appointment today at 3 and I always get panicked about going .. which is the strangest thing as I’ve been going 28 years to do same thing ( bloods )
It’s bizzare & I will never understand how I can go like this
I do hope your day gets better .. I’m gonna try and do whatever I have to ( I’m dry heaving ) because of panic it’s effing stupid and winds me up so much
I’m like you ., how much longer .. when is it gonna start tailing off .. when will I be me again .. jeeeeeeeeeez
Suzy let me know how you get on with GP xx
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I will, thanks Michelle.
I’m sorry you’re feeling so anxious too. It’s crazy what this has done.
I get the dry heaving. Even though you’ve been to the hospital millions of times, when you’re anxious, you’re anxious about everything.
I hope it goes ok xxxx let us know xxx
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I will do , got a long wait till 3 that’s why I gonna try and take my mind off it .. usually once I’m done in there I’m fine .. so I don’t know why panic sets in to be honest .. awful it is
And I can’t take rescue remedy as it will interfere with my INR
So today only I can calm me down ..
When I went about a month ago I had full on aniexty in there but they let me sit it out .. then did bloods and i left I felt ok
Then two weeks ago I went in fine and then had racing heart but again once it was done & I left I was fine
Today I’m having it done by finger , so dunno why the panic is there to be honest and that’s why I can’t understand it all. Finger is quicker & will know my INR straight away .. I used to always do it this way but then you sometimes have to wait around for doctor to tell you if any change of dose .. where as if I go in and do my vein they will phone up with results the same or next day if anything as changed
But finger **** is best way when your heart is racing as it’s quick and simple
Hope you don’t have to wait all day for a call back Suzy ..
On a good note my head don’t feel as bad today ,, suppose that’s a good thing xx
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I’ve had a call back from the practice mental health nurse.
She said if I thought the citalopram wasn’t working and I wanted to change I would have to start weaning myself off it 10mg at a time. She recommended ventalaxine as it’s apparently very good for menopausal anxiety.
I’m terrified of weaning down to be honest, but I don’t see I’ve got any other choices. Damned if I do damned if I don’t. She also said there was an antihistamine they prescribed instead of diazepam which knocks you out. Apparently it’s used in mental health hospitals. The thing is, I don’t want to be knocked out… I just don’t want to feel like an anxious mess.
It’s horrible waiting so long for the appointment. Try to distract yourself as much as you can. It’s a shame you can’t take rescue remedy.
It’s awful not being in control of the panic . Xx
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Oh Suzy it’s like a battle field
My friend is on Ventalaxine and she as been for a few years for aniexty/panic and they help her
But my other friend is on citalopram and that helps her so it’s a matter of how our bodies respond I presume
How long will it take to wean off them before you can try the other ??
They prescribe me promethazine hydrochloride think that’s a similar thing
But I never picked up prescription as i told GP I want to be able to function not be knocked out or drowsy
Diazepam was never an option for me they point blank refused it
they gave Proponol ( which isn’t for me ) & that’s why now I do it without any medication on the hope that it all levels off soon ..
Hope your ok ..
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Hi Suzy how’s your day been ?? Hope it got better
I had full on panic before leaving to go hospital I was in my home shaking and dry mouth and thinking I can’t do it .. but I did do it & once I was there I was fine and now I’m calm ( I won’t ever understand it ever why I panic )
I’m back home now and all is done until next Monday
My blood had gone really thin last time and I had to miss medication for few days to try and make it thicker
today its still thin but better than it was so hopefully next week will be bang on normal ..I can hope because then I don’t have to go so often.
Hope your day as been ok
Xxx
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Hi Michelle
Well done for going even though you felt like you couldn’t. Try and chill out now on the bed.
That’s good news about your blood.. let’s hope it is good news again next week.
It’s crazy how the anxiety makes us feel about routine things!
I met my friend for a sea swim. I wasn’t going to, but I forced my shaking jelly self to go and I’m glad I did. The sea was actually quite warm today, and we sat on the beach and had a good chat after. At this moment in time, I feel calmer.
Xxx
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Brilliant Suzy I’m glad you feel calmer
I’m calm as anything now .. most bizzare thing and I always know I’m going to be ok , so I don’t know why panic sets in
It wasn’t aniexty as much it was just pure panic or maybe a mixture of both
Let’s hope things start settling for us soon and we get back to our normal jolly selves
How long is it gonna take to wean down your tablets or are you gonna keep with ciltropram
Xx
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I’m glad your calm now xx
I’m not sure… I can either give the citalopram another week to take it to the 6 week mark and see if there’s any improvement, or start weaning down.
I will have to wean down 10mg every 2 weeks. So it could take up to 6 weeks…. Which I’m dreading as my symptoms may get a lot worse!
It’s a bit of a dilemma really…..
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Oh wow … hopefully they kick in and start working ..
Didn’t think it would be that long as you have only been on 5 weeks .. just goes to show I suppose that these tabs need to taken and not taken the right way
Hopefully Suzy you get some sort of miracle and they start working for you
You could also wean off them and be fine maybe .. it’s is a catch 22 .. damned if you do damned if you don’t
You will know what to do.
Something will click and you be like yep I’m doing this
I just think we are all different so medication works differently for us all , but withdrawal symptoms seem to be the same for everyone off hrt.
Xx
I’m now sat down watching tv .. looks like we may get rain ..hopefully not
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Hi suzysheep just thought ld mention lm on citalopram 20 for depression post menopause .Been taking for 8 weeks now feeling great really helping with anxiety and depression morbid thoughts so does work but takes time sometimes longer than drs say we are all different hope you get relif soon .
Dee xxx
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Thanks Michelle, I think I might wait another week and see. You’re right, I feel damned what ever I choose!
Thanks Dee. How long did you take it before you noticed an improvement? And are you on HRT? I’m struggling so much with the anxiety I was really hoping it would have at least taken the edge off more consistently. I had a couple of better days last week, but them crashed back down even worse!
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Yes you can feel worse before you feel better l started feeling better week 6 to 7 and getting better everyday since no l dont take hrt thought l was too old at 62 had last period at 57 1/2 not much symptoms then until smear test july one week later bang every symptom listed and crippling anxiety depression n morbid thoughts floored me going to see about hrt apparently not too old .Now lm feeling better hope you feel better soon xx
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Glad your feeling better Dee
Nice to know that you feel better each day Xx
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Dee…. Funny you mentioned having a smear… I had one about a week before I had the heavy painful period and pms… that was when I was told just to take the HRT patch off.
Hmmmmm……
I’m glad you’re improving now… I think I might give it another week or two before I decide.
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Hi suzysheep thinking about it the smear l had before the one in july led to my last period at 57 1/2 the week after the test ! Wonder if the smear can affect our hormones ! Looks possible keep well .
Dee x
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Morning Suzy
Just dropping in to see how you are today ? Hope your ok Xx
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Hi Michelle
I’m feeling pretty bad this morning. Constant dry heaving… anxiety to the max. Don’t know what to do with myself :'(
I’m going to try and walk the dog around the block… need to stop just being with my own thoughts.
When is this going to get better again?? Ffs
How are you feeling today lovey? X
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Aww Suzy
I wish I had an answer for you , I hope the walk does you good
So draining when it’s constant
I’m ok jittery shaky and nervous & agitated today but I think it’s just the norm with me lately ..
I’m now Gonna give a quick wipe over in here .. it’s never a mess but I wipe over each day to keep on top of it
Then I’m gonna have a shower and go for a walk myself I think try shake all these feelings off
Bloody sick of it now
I did have CBT scheduled for this morning but have cancelled and rescheduled for tomorrow as I wouldn’t be able to concentrate this morning so would be a waste.
Suzy I hope you feel better as the day goes on.. xxx
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Sorry you didn’t feel up to cbt. Hopefully you will tomorrow.
I ended up going back to bed for a couple of hours… I just couldn’t calm myself down. I managed to sleep….. but I still feel anxious.. but not as manic!!
I really don’t know why mines got so much worse since Friday?
Hope your feeling better as the day goes on xx
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Hi Suzy
I got up did what I had to do , went for a small walk to mother in laws ( same street but other end )
Then my husband took me to get my hair cut .. was shaky but my hairdresser is a mate so she is aware of what’s happening
She would always do my hair at home
.. but I don’t wanna be a hermit so I will when possible go to her still
I feel jittery still and gonna go home in a while and have some lunch and then go from there
I hope your day gets better and I hope all this passes for us both soon as I’ve had enough now seriously Wanna just feel like me again .. is it gonna happen … if so when that’s what I keep asking myself
Suzy I really and truly hope your days get better .. I hate to feel like people are struggling like me Xx
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Thanks Michelle… yes, it’s awful to think someone else is feeling this bad. There’s thousands of people out there suffering from all sorts of crippling mental health problems… I have 2 members of my family ( brother in law and my sister in laws brother) who both took their lives. What must they have been feeling like to go through with it…. Truly awful and heartbreaking.
To top things off…. I’ve had an email from school saying my son has been in close contact with a positive covid case… so I’ve ordered the tests in…. And I expect him to be very anxious when he gets home ( he’s been double jabbed though)
I’m glad you’ve been out and about today… I bet it was good to get your haircut… bit of pampering… well done for getting yourself out! Xx
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Sorry to hear about your family members but it does make you think , what must they have been feeling .. as this for me and I don’t know if it’s same for you but this unbelievably the worse thing I’ve experienced and I’ve been through some shit in my 47 years .. but nothing as topped this
Ohhhh I hope your son doesn’t get the virus .. im glad he as been double jabbed but hopefully he don’t get the virus and hopefully he won’t be too anxious
Good you have ordered tests , I always do them randomly because I’ve had it in the past I don’t want it again .. so when I go out even tho I’m cautious I always test few days after .. especially if I get a sore throat/headache etc
I’m happy to have my hair done and feels better , I was meant to have a colour but how jittery I was , I’m like no just do the cut as I wouldn’t of been able to sit there that long ( well maybe I could but my brain was telling me no ) .. because she is a friend it’s not so bad in her salon as she is aware
where if I was to go any where else it would feel worse I think
I really need my eyebrows threaded but that’s not happening for now .. so I’ll continue with my slugs ( eyebrows ) as they are lol
Suzy I hope you start feeling better as day goes on and also weeks go on.
And I hope covid don’t enter your household
Xxx
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Hi ladies
Sorry you are both feeling anxious still, I am much better at the moment, but remember mine start almost exactly a year ago so I am glad to get some good days.
Well done Michelle fir getting to the hairdressers.
The funeral went well yesterday and I did a reading.
Son has gone back home now. I do still feel worried that this is just a few good days and it will be back to full blown anxiety again soon but I must try and be positive.
Sleeping is much improved but still only about 5 hours but they seem quite restorative.
Sending positive thoughts to you both
Helen
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So glad you feel better Helen :)
And I hope it’s here to stay n continue good days ..
I’m glad yesterday went well & wow well go you for doing a reading
Enjoy the good times & try not to think it’s only for a couple of days .. think of it as forever :)
So happy you having better days .. a year of this pleaseeeeeeeeeee don’t lol
Take care Helen and you enjoy every minute of feeling good .. you deserve good days after putting up with it so long xxxxx
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I’m glad things went well at the funeral Helen… and well done for doing a reading. It takes a lot of courage to do that. I did it at my dads funeral…. I was shaking like a leaf! You have come a long way by the sounds of it.
I hope your good mood continues….
Xxx
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How you feeling Suzy ?? Hope your day as got better xxx
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I’m feeling calmer…. But still have waves of anxiety coming over me.
How are you feeling now Michelle?
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I’m glad your calmer Suzy & I hope that the aniexty fades away
How was your son ? Hope he is ok
I’m ok just relaxing and browsing internet for Christmas presents .. when I’m bored I spend money lol
Xx
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Hi there, thought i would check in on you guys. Sounds like you both had a better day today although by the time you see this you probably both will be in bed. I have had a few mostly good days, somehow (and I am not sure how) I have managed to get through the anxious evening spells within a few hours. And am good all day. It really is to do with how busy my brain is. I have Abba in my head now “if it wasnt for the nights” sigh. Anyway I am feeling jittery (you explained it well Michelle I realized thats how I am feeling) and have that pit of the stomach anxiety and a touch of dizziness which I am struggling with tonight so thought I would touch base on here to see if venting calms me down.
Part of it I think is anxiety because yesterday I had my bloodwork and ultrasound so now am worried about results (I have health anxiety triggered or got worse with menopause) and because tomorrow I get fitted for a holter monitor which is worrying me too (fear of the unknown?).
Has CBT helped Michelle? I am starting to wonder if I need therapy for this…
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Hi Gm
Good to know you have had a few good days , I hope you get many more
I don’t know what starts my aniexty it’s appears when it feels like it
But we have to ride it through
I hope your results are all good and you can start to relax after recieving them
I’ve been waiting for ECG monitor since June and still nothing because of the back log of covid
CBT is interesting , I’ve only had a couple sessions but in a full on panic I’m not sure if I would beable to remember most stuff if I’m honest as you know panic and aniexty take over .. but it’s interesting to know how our mind works & how it can keep a picture or somthing there that actually can set off panic etc
Suzy how are you today , hope your well and having a better morning.
Today is another jittery and anxious morning for me , I didn’t sleep well as burning in ribs through the night so that could be why it’s seems stronger this morning & it must be something I’ve eaten as it’s not been too bad for a while ) so now have to look at what I’ve eaten differently and see what’s what or at least try and work it out
I have CBT at 12 .. was gonna reschedule but I might as well just do it as might help me feel less anxious
Let us know how you get on GM & I hope your days are better :)
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Hi Michelle,
I’m really anxious today, but I’ve tried to push on through. Took the dog out for a walk, then went and met my friend for a swim. I think I stayed in the water a bit too long though as I took ages and a looooong hot shower to warm up.
Just in bed listening to my meditation now.
My son is ok… the tests have arrived so we will all be testing later, but no symptoms, so fingers crossed we’re all ok.
I hope the cbt helps. I’ve got one next week.
Gm… I’m glad to hear you are having better days. I hope venting on here helped last night….. such a shame we’re all in bed… but keep posting, we’re listening to you xxxx
Helen, how are you after your busy few days?
Xx
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Hi Suzy
Sorry you are still so anxious, I am sure it will pass before to long,
I am pretty good still but seem to be very tired and a little anxious. Went for run this morning then my sister came to see me,she has just gone home. Should do some housework now :). Have Pilates later and tomorrow is a work day.
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Hi Suzy and Helen
Suzy I hope your meditation helps you and hopefully you feel less anxious
I’m glad you pushed yourself forward .. I shoulda done that today but I couldn’t be bothered ( I know not attitude to have ) but after Hardly any sleep and this feeling all day it’s like today I feel sad with it aswell .. but I’m ok and I will pick me up by early evening.. think a good sleep would do me the world of good.
CBT went fine . I spoke to him about my week etc and told him I can’t pin point what is causing it apart from the physical feelings soon as I get a physical feeling it’s like it sets everything off and waking up jittery and nervous , seems to set the tone of the day kinda thing , so next week we gonna do a different approach and work on hormones instead of other things.. he said the word for it but I can’t remember it .. so we will see ( hopefully a miracle will happen )
The CBT is very interesting, I’m doing it private and this bloke listens to me and we try work what’s what .. it’s about me and not his work if that makes sense
So even if at end of it if I’m still same it was worth the money for him to actually listen & go with me on my feelings , why telling me a few techniques along the way he is so easy to talk to & gets in deep to what I’m thinking and why , so for me is worth it & hopefully next week we can work something out on the physical side as I do believe it’s hormonal
I hope yours helps you :) I do find it fascinating and things make sense
I’m so glad no symptoms are in your home that’s brilliant news :) and I hope it stays like that.
Helen I hope your good days continue and you become less anxious
You two make me feel lazy .. with all your swimming and running and me over here done nothing lol
Apart from housework & that’s it
What do you listen to Suzy .. ? I had a relaxation one from the CBT therapist and I listen to that and it does kinda calm me down ..
Xxx
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Don’t feel bad for having a chill day. If you’re feeling anxious and sad then don’t push yourself.
I’m still feeling pretty wound up…. It’s been with me all day.
I listen to guided meditations I find on YouTube. A couple are for sound sensitivity and misophonia as that’s what the anxiety is heightening.
I’m glad you’re finding the cbt helpful… and like you say, just having someone listening and interested in helping really makes a difference. Well worth the money.
Xxx
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Mine as been with me all day also ..
I’ve never thought of looking online for meditation, might have a browse later :)
Hope your evening is a less anxious one
I’m gonna have food and relax even more .. I’m actually bored of relaxing but not much else can do why I’m like this as it just triggers it more
Hopefully I get a better sleep tonight then maybe tomorrow won’t be so bad :)
Positive thinking xx
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Yes, hopefully you will sleep better.
Resting is good. If your body is telling you to, then do it. I didn’t do anything yesterday… I really needed to do nothing…. But then my mind runs away with itself…. So lots of distractions are needed.
Hopefully your evening will be better too xxx
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That’s the thing , when you do relax the mind wonders too much
Although most day I’ve been chatting to my son on phone
So not have much chance to wonder
I’ve now eaten and now I’m like what to do what to do lol 😂
I hope I sleep better tonight & hope tomorrow is a better day for us both :)
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I hope you managed to occupy your mind…. I’ve been watching lucifer on Netflix.. bit of escapism.
Your son sounds wonderfully supportive, you’re lucky to have him there’s
Hope you get a good nights sleep xx
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The Lucifer finale triggered my flashes. Dont want to spoil it for you though Suzy.
@michelle7474 evenings are totally the worst for me too, my mind wont stop wandering… even during Lucifer last night!
I was thinking about meditation too, I am looking at the Calm app, what do you all think? I have been trying this short one i got online free but it doesn’t target anxiety specifically so I thought calm might be better?
Today I got my holter monitor which I will be wearing the next few days. Wonder how I will sleep with it on, bad enough without it that I have problems sleeping.
When i see my doctor next week I am going to ask about CBT I think.
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Michelle, it sounds to me like your anxiety is triggered by the way your menopause symptoms are, could it be health anxiety? Maybe not conscious? You feel a weird symptom and dont like the way it feels and get anxious about it?
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Ladies
Hope you are all feeling better today
If you are interested in some mediation online classes along with a lot of other classes to occupy you in the day try this website Goldster
https://www.goldster.co.uk/
It was a lifesaver for me when I was at my worst.
It says for healthy ageing but it has so many things you can do and as the classes are live it does give some structure to the day. I still do lots of the classes.
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Gm…. Ok… I’ll watch it with caution!
Thanks for the link Helen. I’ll have a good look at that.
Same old same old here this morning. Very very anxious. Going to take the dog out in a bit… but it’s going to be a struggle today x
Hope everyone has a better day today x
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Hi suzy & Gm & Helen
Gm it could well be aniexty over my symptoms because when I feel them I get anxious & panic sometimes .. does that come under Health aniexty .. suppose all aniexty are the same as in the physical feelings
But Would health aniexty that make me nervous on doing things
It’s most deffo hormonal it as to be, I have no other explanation & with added hormones it did get worse
8 weeks with nothing now and it’s there but not so intense and some days worse than others .. winds me up to be honest
Suzy sorry you had another bad morning , did you manage to walk the dog ?? I hope your day got better
Helen thanks for the link I’ll look into it :)
I woke up jittery as normal , I did manage to have a better sleep as in still not the best sleep but better than the previous night
I woke up did a deep clean this morning battling on through the shakes and feeling jittery and then I had a shower and then went for a short walk, haven’t done much more since
Most days I feel sick nauseous just lately but I dunno if that’s hormones , probably is
It passes but always each day and bloated tummy which I think I used to get before HRT ( can’t remember lol )
Most things like aches and pains ( although not bad ) fuzzy head , feeling hot and staying hot .. they are all back like before I started patches .. so in my head that could be me getting more and more back to normal ( I hope )
I say this everyday but it’s like groundhog each day lol
I said to my husband do you think I should go back on HRT … he said no chance you was ok before that 😂😂😂😂
He knows in the future if I needed to I would indeed use it again .. although I’ll see how long I can do without
If I can get this aniexty gone I thinking I’ll be ok.. as it’s that what stops me in my tracks
I’m now gonna have some dinner & go from there .. these days are long and boring when your not doing stuff you always did.. think once I’ve got my dads funeral out the way, I need to start pushing myself out further otherwise it feels like I’ll be stuck here forever ..
Positive thinking .. is I will move forward because I really want too ..
Hope you ladies are ok xx
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We will move forward because we want to!
This too shall pass!
We will not let this bullsh*t beat us, we have gone through worse and come out the other side!
How was your day Helen? I will definitely look at that link too, thanks! Sounds like Michelle and Suzy both had an anxious day though, as did I. I have this holter monitor on and surprisingly managed to sleep with it as well but I woke at 4am with a hot flash... and after that passed it triggered a bad anxiety attack. Good news is it gave me something else to add in the holter diary, and I managed to breathe through it and go back to sleep within an hour or so. But today wasnt so good with middling anxiety pretty much all day even though I was working, which doesnt normally happen during the work day since I am distracted. I also find myself worrying about being anxious again, and /or a panic attack, and then its a vicious circle.. Anyway I need to make dinner and see how my evening goes since they tend to be worse. Other good news is I can’t eat much when stressed so i have lost 10lbs since July. Gotta look at the bright side!
I hope everyone’s evenings went better than their days!
Am I the only one between the 4 of us who hasn’t had a period in months? Last was April 22.
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Oh Suzy I was thinking about your noise sensitivity. (Btw my name is Gwen everyone). And one weird thing I have with symptoms is every so often I develop super smell. My husband walks into the room and I can smell his deodorant from the other side of the room. Its mostly chemical smells I pick up. And its not all the time. Its not a bad symptom, just interesting. My super power lol.
I have always been a bit sensitive to noise though, I cant bear loud noises and disturbances bother me. I find myself getting anxious in a loud room or if there is a lot of background noise.So far though (touch wood anti jinx) it hasn’t got worse on menopause.. so far..
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Hi Gwen,
I’m glad you managed to get back to sleep after a panic attack. It’s so difficult to calm down after one. I keep getting them… just pop up out of nowhere…. It makes me cry for a good hour after.
Funny, but smells disturb me too. Especially now. Yesterday my husband made a lovely salad, but for some reason I couldn’t stand the smell of the spring onions! That’s a new one. Oh… and my 17 year old sprays half a can of lynx on every day…. Stomach churning!!!
My morning is pretty anxious. I’ve had about 4 poos already! Does anyone else get this?? I always feel like I need one! I’m going to take the dog out in a bit, then hopefully a swim…. But it feels like an uphill trudge today….
Hope everyone has a better morning xxx
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Oh, Gwen….. before my stint with HRT, I hadn’t had a period since November 2018. … so I was well into menopause, with no anxiety, just awful flushes and very painful joints. Wish I’d just put up with that now :'(
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Morning Gwen
Glad you managed to get back to sleep , how long do you have holter for ? I’m still waiting for mine , although I purely think my palpitations are hormone related .. just like everything just lately
Suzy hope your morning gets better as the time goes on
I’m like that sometimes I call it nervous poop … I sometime always need to pee a lot also and other days not ..
I read somewhere that it’s actually normal .. I go toilet regularly always have but when my stomach was playing up with acid from aniexty I was going more and I was thinking how , when I hadn’t eaten that much .. all these strange things happen
Like now I’m laying in bed and I’m ok jittery but my boob feels hot .. it’s just bizzare how something each day crops up.. and later without fail I will feel nauseous but that also passes but apparently it’s a common thing.
I just sometimes feel it’s one thing or another .. but if it keeps aniexty away I’ll take whatever gets thrown at me.
Gwen I still have periods , haven’t yet missed one..
Hope we all have good days today.. things can only get better right ??
Suzy I always say I wish I hadn’t tried HRT but I also say I wish I hadn’t had jabs .. but nothing I can do about either now .. just ride this out …
Xx x
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Michelle, I hope your hot boob isn’t causing more anxiety. I expect it’s a hormonal fluctuation. Try not to worry.
My anxiety seems to be hitting me in waves today. Very odd. … but I’m mostly anxious.
I have booked an appointment with a private menopause specialist. It’s on 14 October. That was the earliest appointment they had, and it will be done over zoom.
I’ve gone through the motions this morning… but I feel like I’m bailing out the titanic with a thimble….. wading through thick mud…. You get the gist…….
One positive… I haven’t had any ‘dark’ thoughts today.
Oh… and a few days ago I dropped my dose of citalopram down from 40mg to 30mg. I felt it was too high and making me worse. I will stick to this dose for a while.
Are you up to anything today Michelle?
How is your day going Helen?
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Hi Suzy
No the boob not causing no aniexty as I’ve had it on and off for a while , although I don’t like the feeling I’m used to it lol and gotta be hormones
I’m ok today , I was jittery earlier but that comes and goes
I had my first cuppa coffee today since over a month or so ago .. I have been drinking just water or occasionally lemonade but stopped coffee thinking it was causing the jitters ( I know now wasn’t coffee ) but I’ve had decaff today and I enjoyed a hot drink , I actually missed my cuppas ( hopefully it’s a sign I’m on the mend )
Hopefully you get some answers on 14th .. you thinking of going back on HRT ?
I hope the lower dose of AD will help you.
I hate the on off anxious feeling when it comes in waves as can be perfectly ok and then it’s like where the hell that come from.
I’ve not done much today , I have cleaned etc I do that daily like my routine lol..
waiting for husband to come back for lunch , he usually comes back when he is working local
Then once he as left to go back to work , I might go for a walk .. I really want to go into town but I’m not sure with all this .. I don’t wanna over push myself then regret it kinda thing so that’s another day when I feel 100%
But I’ll get out side today and go for a short walk and to the shop for milk .. I don’t need it but it gives me an excuse to go into shop
I’m happy you haven’t had any dark thoughts today that’s a good thing .. hopefully Suzy we are heading for better days .. i know I say it every day but I do honestly believe better days are coming soon.
My friend message me this morning to see how I was … she is the one who tried HRT a while back and felt worse , tried AD Felt Worse and then struggled with aniexty
She started HRT again over a month ago maybe 2 months and she said she feels like her old self again and said she hadn’t felt that good in years and her aniexty as gone.
So I wonder sometimes if going on HRT too early messes up our systems
I’m sooo happy for her
She said she listens to a audio book called the secret said it’s all about positive thinking but she said it helps
Might have a nose later ..
Suzy did your bleed come after your vaccine ?? I still connnecting the 2 together for me lol 😂
Xxx
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Funny you should mention just drinking water…. I know you consciously gave the coffee up, but since I’ve got progressively worse I can’t drink tea practically all day, just water. I drink decaf tea anyway… but I just can’t stomach it.
No, my bleed was caused by the HRT. With in a couple of weeks of wearing it my breasts filled out again… they’d gone quite empty…. Then they got painful, then I had pms symptoms, then awful cramps… then a heavy period for about a week. My vaccine was back in the beginning of June.
I’ve read the secret…. A bit to airy fairy for me I’m afraid.
I’ve just bought a book called Hormone repair manual by Lara Briden. It looks a bit complicated and technical… but I’ll give it a go!
Hope your afternoon is going well xx
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Hi Suzy
Sorry you anxiety is still hanging around. I’m still feeling a lot better but had a poor nights sleep, due to stressing over something I need to get done, that cause some anxiety heavy chest and tired hot eyes.
In work today so that’s a distraction and such beautiful weather I went to have lunch in the park next to my workplace. Am going to get my flu jab later and tomorrow have to be up early for a 7am coach to run the Windsor women’s 10k with my running club (hope it’s not too warm)
Michelle
I wish I could get on with my cleaning, I seem to have given it up entirely ;D You seem to be doing really well. I gave up coffee tea etc when things were at their worst drinking red bush tea( it’s naturally caffeine free) or fruit and herbal teas.
I’m not sure I am on the right HRT am only using half a patch at the moment may try going back to full patch soon or asking to change.
However I really don’t want to go back to that dark place I was in at the start of the year.
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Suzy
You think it’s our digestive system from the aniexty that’s makes us not able stomach certain things
I always thought I was more jittery after a coffee , but it turns out I’m still jittery without it .. but I will stick with a decaff when I fancy one.
I still keep feeling nauseous on and off but it passes so deffo digestive system somehow effected but I remember my Pharmist saying that aniexty plays a role in digestive system
I’m bored of drinking water but I drink because I know I need fluids
Food wise I eat more frequently now and even if I’m not hungry I try eat it as although I actually needed to lose weight , I didn’t want to lose it this way.
But I don’t seem to put any on.. I did put 2lb on then it’s come Bck off again
But I’m not under weight so I won’t worry too much as I know I’m eating.
I did read someone else asking about the nausea coming off HRT so could be from that also
Ohhhh you think the book is worth it suzy I can’t listen to a load of old codswallop lol
My last vaccine was June 6th and it was 12 days later all this got worse and also was a period aswell so who knows .. I remember being fine all day and then evening someone switched on that aniexty switch and it’s never been turned off since .. but been turned down
Hi Helen , sorry you had a bad night and felt anxious
Hopefully the feelings pass for you
Good luck with your 10k… you do well with all this excercise
It’s a beautiful day today , apparently it’s meant to rain over weekend so prepare yourself for it Helen .. my husband run the London marathon and it was raining that day but he said it helped him… I looked like I had run the marathon at the end hahaha we had got to certain points to cheer him on and I was absolutely knackered lol ., we had a cab home because of most streets being closed off and even the cab driver asked me how long it took 😂😂 I musta looked well tired where as my husband had a spring in his step
I hope you get the right HRT soon , if things are levelling off for you now , would it be worth messing with it ? As in your having some better days
Suzy are you considering HRT again ? Hopefully if you are you get the magic dose which helps you with all this.
I’m now going to go shop , only takes 5 min there and back but it’s getting me out :)
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Helen, I echo Michelle, if you’re feeling better on half a patch, don’t go messing around with anything else. As we all know, it can have disastrous consequences!
Good luck with your run! I hope for a dull day to make it easier!
Michelle, yes, that book is total codswallop! Lol basically telling you that if you think about something hard enough, it will happen!!
I’ve made a start on my book… easier to read than I thought. She said something interesting… that in peri menopause she would only prescribe progesterone as the body is making wildly fluctuating amounts of estrogen. You were prescribed both… completely overdosed on estrogen. Remind me why you went on the HRT?
Xxx
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Hi Suzy
I won’t waste my money then ..
Ohhh interesting and funni enough Dr Currie suggested that I go on a mini pill destrogel I think it was called .. I was on mini pill micronor for about 15-20 years and came off it 7 years ago and remember the withdrawal from that lasted few months.
I originally went on HRT as I had been getting headaches , fuzzy head , aches and pains all over ( different pain each day so it seemed ) I was getting palpitations I would go very hot and stay hot ( not a flush ) and lack of sleep
My skin and hair went oily and then dry .. I had put weight on ( I blamed food )
Periods was regular then became closer together and I had experienced my first aniexty attack ( which happened a day before my period )
Main thing for me was the aniexty ( scared the life out of me when it happened ) & also palpitations I think for me these was the worse things … my first aniexty attack was after I went red hot so I presume it’s hormone related.
Speaking to GP the day i called , I was told it was fluctuating hormones and at first she said oh I don’t know what to give you because of your history with blood clots and being on warfrain.
I asked about the mini pill and could I go back on it and she said it wouldn’t help only for contraceptive
Then she called me back and said it was safe for me to use patches and prescribed Everol sequi 50 & was told since maybe she shoulda given me everol 25 to start
I’ve since found out the destrogel is different to micronor as I asked could I possibly go back on that one knowing I’ve had that mini pill before & GP said wouldn’t help with peri menopause
I’ve heard a lot of people mention the progesterone.. where we all think it’s estrogen we lack ..
I was also told that in the future to try hrt if I was getting night flushes
I had only ever experienced one .. until after I stopped HRT then coming off that I had a few night flushes.
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It’s so difficult to know what to do isn’t it. Doctors don’t seem to know what they are doing. They’re not specialists.
I wonder if you could ask dr currie to send a letter to your dr recommending destrogel?
I think I could handle anything except this high anxiety. I’m worried that the longer my body is subjected to it, the harder the cycle will be to break. Sigh.
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It’s not knowing I think .. it’s like what if I went on the destrogel and then started feeling like I did on the HRT that’s what puts me off now .. and then if it didn’t suit would I have to do all the withdraw again
That’s what’s putting me off everything
And yeah I understand what you mean with the aniexty and hard to break
It’s like what’s the best thing to do ..
I’m stumped but I don’t wanna keep adding things into the mixture incase I have to withdraw from it all .. hard choice
I would ask my doc for it and say it’s been recommended and they would prob be ok about it …
I just dunno to be honest
Maybe I should read up on it xx
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Yes, I understand. I think where we’re concerned…. With our awful experience of HRT and withdrawal… we’re sort of damned if we do damned if we don’t.
The only thing we can do is give it more time…. But it’s hard when every day is such a struggle.
I’ve been out with the dog, gone to the shop, had a swim… but I can’t say I enjoyed any of it, I felt too panicked and anxious… like a robot version of myself…. A shitty malfunctioning robot made of cardboard and egg cartons at that!!! Lol
Xx
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Haaaaaaa I think my robot is made of the same 😂😂😂
I haven’t done much to be honest I went to the shop and did usual in here .. and basically that’s about it
I’ve just felt edgy all day .. I just read about the pill and few saying if you have aniexty /panic attacks then stay clear
I should never read these things
Although on my last mini pill I didn’t suffer bad
It is damned if we do damned if we don’t
I’m gonna hang on without as long as possible as I never wanna feel like this again
You done well to do them things Suzy that’s good … tomorrow I’m hoping to do more ..
husband went to get diesel as we need to drive to Ipswich monday and can’t get any , so he will try again tomorrow
People panic buying again xxx
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Maybe hold off on that pill then.. sigh.
I hope you get some fuel. It’s gone crazy. As soon as the government say don’t panic buy… everyone panics! I’ve got 1/2 a tank, so that’s ok for a while.
Are you going up for your dads funeral? How are you feeling about that? Xx
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Yeah , we was gonna drive up Monday evening as it’s 10.30 Tuesday morning
I’m gutted to be honest and I’m hoping I can do it .. I have to & want to do it he is my dad but also he would understand if I didn’t.. I’m hoping my blood is ok Monday then I can at least use rescue remedy in hope that it helps me enough
So kinda trying not to think too much about it, although it is on my brain a lot as is my dad
I know it’s gonna be a very tearful day and sometimes when I cry I don’t feel so anxious so maybe that will help in some strange way
I’ll deffo hold off on the pill and see how I go without anything
Hopefully the husband manages to fill up before Monday as deffo ain’t enough in there to get us there .. not even his work van would ( he always fills up weekends )
What you hoping for Suzy with your zoom call ??
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Yes, try and use the rescue remedy and lots of deep breathing. Can you take diazepam?
I’m not sure exactly what I’m going to ask yet. I’m going to write everything that has happened to me and hope he can shed some light onto what has gone so wrong for me. Obviously I want to know if this will get better or if I’ll have to go on HRT again…. And if the anxiety meds are worth me preserving with etc… lots of questions that I need to get in some sort of order. X
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Yeah best way get it all wrote down in order of you needing to know
Hopefully she says that once hormones settle it dissapears
It’s best to have it all in front of you because sometimes can forget things trying to get it all out in a certain amount of time.
I’ve not taken diazepam because the GP refused to prescribe as its addictive but kept telling me take AD and prescribed Proponol.. which I won’t take because I don’t like the feeling
Xxx
Rescue remedy should do the trick though :)
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Wow… my drs keep prescribing diazepam to me, even though I say I don’t want to rely on it as it’s addictive!
I don’t like the feeling of propanol… it knocked me out for a couple of hours!
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Suzy don’t matter what I phoned my doctor up with .. everything was put as aniexty .. my burning pain aniexty .. my headaches aniexty .. everything
Before that everything was long covid
But when I asked for diazepam under no circumstances was they prescribing & pushed AD and said we talk in a month … never heard off them since lol
Even gave me somthing for sleep I didn’t pick up prescription but she said we speak in 2 weeks that was 4 weeks ago 😂😂😂😂
That’s why I don’t bother even calling them now
I don’t like anything that makes me drowsy or stops me fuctioning
So I’m doing it all without
Plus a lot of stuff interferes with my warfrain so always cautious as my blood more important xx
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Hi all,
Today was a pretty good day, patchy anxiety in waves but i think less than yesterday. Also I returned the holter monitor, I had to wear it for 2 days. Of course Murphy’s law kicked in and the weird jolts didnt happen at all when I was wearing it, and as soon as I got home after turning it I had a good 30 mins of pounding heart. But really I think this is all hormonal anyway so not sure it would show much. Be interesting to see the results.
I totally understand the poop thing. When i am stressed I poop softer and/or more often… anxiety definitely impacts my digestive system. Pee more often too.
And totally get you when you say its one thing or another Michelle. I feel it’s a new thing every day. Yesterday it was tingling in the soles of my feet and a touch in my hands. Probably anxiety but my feet could be the fact I probably need better slippers with support ;) Today I am feeling less anxious like I said, but got more light headed/dizzy feeling. The fun thing I have noticed though recently is that just before a hot flash my nose gets all stuffed up and hard to breath through it. Then it suddenly clears and BOOM flash! How weird is that?
Suzy - the menopause specialist sounds good. I don't know if they have those here on the health service, maybe I would need to go private too but let me know how it goes, sounds interesting. And the hormone repair manual.. like i said above, I will try anything to get through this.
Helen - glad to hear you are doing better during the day. Hope the night thing was just a one off.
Diazepam sounds interesting.. Is that Valium? My MIL takes Ativan for anxiety, sounds similar and again they dont want to prescribe it a lot cos of addiction but she takes it once a day not every day for years and has never got addicted. My doctor wont even give it to me.. sigh. Every doctor is different i guess.
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Hi Gwen
Nice to hear you have had a good day, long May they continue
It’s mad how the anxious feeling can come and go , strikes when you least expect it
Bet your happy to no longer have the holster .. I’ve heard a few people say when they have had it , the erratic beats ain’t happened .. but I hope all is good in results .. keep us informed
Are you taking any medication for all this Gwen or you riding it solo
Make sure you get some new slippers .. I always walk around bare foot or in flip flops .. it’s a habit . Hate my feet being too hot and also too cold
With aniexty tho I noticed I get cold hands and feet ..
With HRT I used to get sweaty feet .. like my hot flush was coming from my feet but I’m not sure how if that was down to aniexty aswell … I think most things that we feel can be aniexty or hormones bloody things !!
This morning so far i feel ok .. but to be honest I’ve done nothing yet
I think I’m gonna make my self a decaff cuppa and then decide what to do in my exciting day …
Still sleeping on and off but better than a month ago .. it would be lovely to sleep all through and not wake up but in time that will come :)
Morning Suzy and Helen
Hope your both well and hope you both have good days
Suzy I hope your morning is better today and no anxiety
Xx
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Hi Suzysheep. Re propranalol and it knocking you out. Have you tried taking just half a tablet. I found when I took it back in the summer that I only needed a very small amount, 5mg. Anything more was too much. But the 5 mg took the edge off the anxiety symptoms.
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Hi Gwen
Yes diazepam is Valium. I try not to use it, but today for some reason I just have been physically shaking so much I had one. It’s only 2mg, but it’s taken the edge off.
I’m glad you’ve had a less anxious day… and it’s typical you didn’t have any palpitations while the holter was on!! I hope you’re managing to sleep well tonight x
Michelle, I’m glad you’re feeling better today! I hope it lasts all day!
I thought I was in for a better day, as when I woke up at 5.30 I managed to calm down and go back to sleep until 9…. But then I woke up to a sort of mini panic attack….. and that was that… I was physically shaking… so I gave in and had a diazepam as I had to take the dog out. I then managed to go for a quick swim…… the water was lovely and calm today…. Minty cool!
Helen, that’s a good idea about the propranolol… I think if I still feel bad later I’ll cut one up … I really don’t want to be taking the diazepam.
Is propranolol addictive?
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How does the diazepam make you feel ? Do you feel dopey or drowsy ?
I don’t think proponol is addictive but I do believe you have to wean off them if taking regular as it’s a heart medication as in a beta blocker
Sorry you woke up to a mini panick attack , but you have got out Suzy so that’s a good thing
I been on and off jittery since I got up but I’m ok for now .. I’ve stripped the bed so that’s keeping me occupied and I’ll go shop later it’s annoying that we can’t just wake up and be us .. I just want the day to come where I wake up and don’t even have to think about anything so nothing sets off nothing
Winds me up each day .. in my thoughts yesturday was im gonna get up and do this and do that .. I don’t know why I even thought i would do what I said as I’ve not done much on the outside world so to speak since all this ..
Suzy I hope your day gets better Xx
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You know what Michelle… every evening I start to feel a bit calmer… I go to bed and I think… oh, tomorrow I’m going to do this , that and the other… then I wake up a bag of nerves and struggle to do the most basic things!! It’s crazy isn’t it. Minor things seem such a huge undertaking!
We will get better….. this won’t last forever xxx
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We most definitely will get better :) hopefully sooner rather than later ..
yeah that’s me Suzy saying I’m gonna do this and that and then I don’t because of these feelings
It’s mad Because I can be Indoors and crack on and get things done and fight through the jitteryness and shakes which is hard but I do it ..
But soon as I go out side it’s like a whole different ball game ..
And I think because I don’t go out and walk far, am I becoming weaker .. all these things go through my head
I have the cleanist home and that’s always been me .. always tidying up ( making mess as usually ain’t any lol )
But that’s one thing I’ve tried to continue to do .. when I really wish I had continued to go out side .. because now it’s like that’s the hardest thing for me to do .. and I know I’ll be ok but these feelings are overwhelming as you know.
Hope you feel calmer now xx
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I’m exactly the same. Yesterday I actually drove to the gardens to walk the dog… it was really out of my comfort zone. I was very anxious and shaky. It’s ridiculous really.
Today I just managed a 10 minute walk around the block with her.
Oh, .. I forgot to answer the diazepam question… no, it doesn’t knock me out at the 2mg dose, just settles the nerves down enough to function. It does work great but I am really scared of getting addicted… so I only take one if I feel I have no other choice. I really don’t know why your dr wouldn’t prescribe you any for an emergency? It’s frustrating how some dish them out like sweets and others won’t at all!
I have just read another bit in my book… and it says hormone withdrawal ( it’s mostly the oestrogen) can take months. I think we’ve got a long way to go. Apparently the brain gets addicted to the increase in oestrogen, even for a short time.
Great!!!
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What dose is your propranalol? If only 10mg and you take half it won't be difficult to stop taking. Plus if you take it only when you need it, ie symptoms get too much then it's unlikely you would get used to taking it every day.
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It’s 40mg!! I don’t know why they have given me that strong a dose!
I’ve got a pill cutter, so I’ll quaters one and try it in the morning x
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My Pharmist told me that Suzy about the brain.. she said your brain gets used to it .. then the brain realises it’s not there anymore and goes in to a spiral and eventually comes out that spiral and said that’s why it’s 3-6 months
Madness
Oh so just make you calmer sorta thing
My Gp just refused yet if it helps I can’t see why not as I would only take if necessary
Bizzare .. I went out to the shop and just cooked a shepherds pie for husband keeps me busy
I’m sweating out today .. hopefully sweating out the hormones lol
Wishful thinking
Xxx
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40mg is a big dose
I had in 10mg and said I could take up to 3 times a day … 10mg was too much for me I can only imagine 40mg
No wonder it knocked you out
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Hi ladies
I was given diazepam when at my worst just 14 tabs which prevents addiction. Didn’t do much for me really. Wasn’t allowed propanol as my heart rate is already low. Had some zopiclone sleeping tabs which did work just took 5 but broke the total insomnia cycle.
Had a good day running my 10k with the running club, came back and had a nice bath and now having a rum and coke.
Feel like I’m 90% back to normal, yay.
Hang in there everyone it will get better :)
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Hi Helen
Glad you did your run , & enjoy your drink you deserve it
Immmmmm so happy your 90% Back to normal self
Gives me hope whenever I hear of people feeling back to normal
One day I will be here saying the same ..it could be this year or 13 years time lol
Mad how all GP are different.. if I can help it I don’t phone mine up now
Enjoy your drink and cheers xx
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Well done Helen on completing your run!! That’s a long distance!
Enjoy your drink x
It’s great to hear you are feeling so much better… it gives us hope.
Can you remind me what happened to start your anxiety?
Yes Michelle… we will feel better one day! Xx
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I really really hope we all feel better soon… Do you guys know if there are stories on here of people who went through all this and came out the other side and are now better?
Yesterday evening was all good asides dizziness and I went to bed expecting and hoping for a good nights sleep. But I woke up at least twice with this feeling of, almost panic. It was weird. It was like my brain wanted to panic and I could feel it coming on but somehow I managed to distract myself and fall asleep again. I woke up this morning with anxious tummy (and soft poo) but it passed quite quickly and I have had a very low anxiety day. Its now 5pm and the evening is ahead and I am feeling a tad more anxious now but am hoping it too will pass instead of get worse. Wish me luck or I might be back on here later!
That brain hormone thing is interesting… cant wait to hear more!
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Hi Suzy
This is my story
I am 59 and 5 years post menopause (2016), in 2017 I started HRT as had finally given up trying to cope with hot flushes/night sweats and terrible health anxiety heart palpatations and insomnia episodes.
I started on fem seven conti but when they were no longer available went on Everol conti these worked well,however I had some headaches and breast tingling after about 18months so cut down to half a patch which was still good.
Then last July (2020) I came off entirely and felt great for 2 months then health anxiety and heart palpatations started. The anxiety, insomnia and night sweats increased dramatically, the anxiety took over everything and I had ecg’s and echo which were all ok.
I restarted fem Seven conti 11 weeks ago and have gradually got better.
So as you see unlike you I am better on HRT than off however I am also post menopause not peri. We are all so different but one thing is the same ANXIETY is awful.
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Hi Helen, thanks for sharing your story. Sorry you are still suffering with this. The anxiety is the worst. I am somewhere mid peri.. 5 months since a period but the last time it was 4 months then I had two periods in a row.
This evening was brutal. Bad bad anxiety. What bugs me is that I was feeling great all day and started to feel slight anxious again so thought I would try reading about DARE to see if it would help. Really I think it made it worst cos now I am focusing on the anxiety instead of distracting myself. Sigh. I stopped reading it 30mins ago and am watching tv now and its starting to pass. The book does make sense though, I agree I am anxious about feeling anxious so I need to find a way to not be as it just causes a loop.
All - I am not on meds right now of any sort. My flashes the last week have dropped to a handful a day instead of. The 20 + I was having but the anxiety is now every day. I really dont want to go on ADs if I can help it but I suspect I may have to because I am not sure I can keep having this anxiety every day. I am seeing the doctor on Wednesday to review some of my results and we will see, although we wont have all the results as I am not due the echocardiogram till Oct 19 and the stress test and cardiologist review Nov 3.
The doctor wants me on Pristiq (desvenlafaxine)… i dont think you get it in the UK?
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Hi Gwen ,Suzy and Helen
Sorry you had a bad night Gwen , it’s mad how it just sneaks up on us
I hope when your at GP you get answers & hope all tests are good
Helen
Seems you struggled for a while , but glad things are looking better for you
I hope you continue to feel better daily
I’m early peri and just each day is different , I’ve not yet missed a period but have all other symptoms ..
I hope things get better for me
I wouldn’t rule out HRT but I would like to see how far I can go without it.
Almost 9 weeks off it now so hoping for big improvements in the coming weeks/months
Hi Suzy
How are you this morning ? Hope your ok
I woke up at 6 and fell back to sleep for an hour .. and woke up jittery and feel a little anxious & have like a stuffy nose .. jittery seems the norm for me and usually sometimes passes
I also feel like im mid cycle and ovulating which I think is about right timing wise, so that’s why could be a little anxious
Hopefully tho it passes as the day goes on
Gonna have my self and cuppa and go from there .. not much to do today so I’ll be finding things to do Xx
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Good morning ladies,
Gwen, I’m glad your day was better, that’s a real positive. It’s pretty disheartening when anxiety sets in out of nowhere. The day can be so different from hour to hour… it’s crazy!
Helen, thanks for sharing your story. It sounds like you went through the hell of withdrawal too.
I honestly don’t know what to do about HRT. I really didn’t suit the everol conti… but who knows if I would suit something else.
I have been without a period for over 2 1/2 years before going on HRT… and I had no anxiety for all that time. I’m just counting down the weeks until I see some slight improvement.
Michelle, mornings are a really tough time. Hopefully you should start to see some kind of improvement soon… 9 weeks feels so long..
My morning has been hideous. I woke early. Jittery. My foot waggling in bed drives my husband mad I think… I don’t realise I’m doing it! It’s the excess adrenaline…. I had the usual dry heaving… took a 10mg ( quartered one of the 40mg) propranolol…. Felt like it wanted to knock me out, but still really anxious. Won’t be using it again, really don’t like it. Had a hot bath to try and calm down…. Didn’t last long as it gave me flushes… then cried to my husband for about an hour!! Shitty shitty morning. I actually feel better after a good cry. Haven’t cried in a few days. Those dark suicidal thoughts were creeping in again.
Week 7 of patch removal for me…..
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Ohhh Suzy you are really having it bad just past few weeks.
I always find after a cry I feel slightly better and I don’t get tearful very often only when sometimes this is at it’s worst I sit and sob.
It’s madness that hormones can cause this & I always think is it something else but I know it’s hormones as all blood tests was fine ..
I didn’t like proponol , made me dizzy lightheaded and just not me & nauseous , but it does work wonders for others
I’m currently sitting under the fan as I’m hot today , think because I’m mid cycle that’s only thing I can put down too
I wanna wake up and feel great , wonder how long that is gonna take
9 weeks Tuesday is long , as your 7 weeks are .. seem like a lifetime ago especially as I was suffering whilst on patch aswell & I’m waiting for that day that I can say yay I’m ok
It’s no where near as bad as it was but all the same it’s there
Suzy could it be your AD aswell I wonder
Hopefully tho you start seeing a positive change soon
I’ve not done much as of yet and in truthfulness I don’t wanna do anything, but I will.
Still unable to get fuel , so looks like I’ll be going to my dads funeral in work van .. aslong as I get there that’s all that matters .. absolute joke how the media as sent everyone into a panic
Suzy I hope your day gets better , sending you a big hug as I know how it feels and it’s not nice.
Xxx
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Thanks Michelle,
It’s been a tough few weeks for sure.
I really don’t know if it’s the ads… I dropped from 40 to 30mg… so it might be…..
Oh no, I can’t believe you can’t get petrol! That’s awful. I’m sorry it’s added more stress to an already stressful situation xxx
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Hi Suzy
How as your day been ? Hope it got better
We finally have diesel woop
I’m so thankful that we can go in the car and not a van ., but I woulda gone regardless
I’ve been on and off jittery today , did the usual clean cook shower , sorted stuff for Ipswich & went out to shops and cash point .. so I got out there :)
Hope your day got better Xx
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Yes Michelle, my day got better thank god! Just managed a small roast dinner.
Went out for a walk with my husband and dog… sat in the fresh air looking out to sea for a while. It did me good to get out of the house.
Whoop whoop… yay you got diesel! I’m so relieved for you!
Do you go up tomorrow?
Glad you got out and about… I think you are making progress I really do. A couple of weeks ago you couldn’t go out. Xx
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I’m so glad that your day was better .. makes it more manageable
We are going to drive tomorrow evening as I have hospital & husband will be at work .. but we rather go tomorrow as my dads funeral is 10.30 and would mean we have to leave early Tuesday morning.
Yes Suzy deffo much better as like you said unless i was in car with husband I wouldn’t go anywhere alone
And I don’t go that far now but I do it alone.
I still feel I don’t know how to put it .. like tetchy when im out , like im waiting for something to happen kinda thing as in aniexty/panic
But I will keep pushing myself, but I won’t put to much pressure on myself as wanna move forward not backwards kinda thing
I hope you have a good relaxing evening Suzy. Xx
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I know what you mean by feeling tetchy… on our walk today, I saw a couple of people who we know, and chatted… but I felt nervy and edgy and just wanted to move on… really weird, as normally I would chat for ages!
Good luck with everything tomorrow and Tuesday. I hope it all goes as well as it can and your dad gets a great send off xx hugs xx
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I was like that the other day .. I see 3 people and felt nervous .. & wanted to just carry on walking .. it was like they interrupted my plans kinda thing
I did chat but like you not for long as I felt I needed to rush off
Thankyou Suzy :)
He will have a great send off , he deserves the best we can give him
Rain is forecasted but he loved the rain said was good for his garden lol
Xxx
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Hello all
I delayed posting today because I didnt want to jinx things, I so far (touch wood) have had a very low anxiety day yay! I spent the day pottering around the garden and even managed to have a snooze which I have been too anxious to do for weeks! Although I can feel it start to creep up again sigh.
Michelle - is the stuffy nose the same as mine ie hormonal before flushes… or something else? Take care today and Tuesday, I hope it all goes well (as well as it can) x.
Suzy - your dark suicidal thoughts statement worries me although sounds like it passed. Please tell me you have someone you can call to talk to.. I hate to think of you going through this. Remember it’s only temporary, this will pass!
Helen - how was your weekend?
This should be a fun week (not!) i have the doctor on Wednesday and then Friday have the dentist. What I would really really love though is a massage. I feel like I really need one. Meanwhile with covid I am a tad reluctant to do that. You know whats weird with me (yes another thing) I have been unable to cry recently. I cried a little maybe 3 weeks ago when I had a panic attack but since then although I have wanted to, i kinda havent been able to. All I can think is my anxiety is overdrive fight or flight and maybe crying doesnt fit into that. A good weep would do me good too i think.. Oh well Monday tomorrow and back to work!
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Gwen, I’m not alone. My husband is amazing, I’ve got friends who all know what’s going on with me.. even the suicidal thoughts…. But please be assured, they are just thoughts in my darkest moments, and they pass.
I’m glad you had a better day… it’s great to have some calm moments to ground us.
Oddly enough, after the terrible morning I had yesterday, in the evening I felt like my normal, calm self… very odd.
Woke up to the awful anxiety again this morning… just trying to ride it out…
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Hi Gwen Suzy and Helen
Gwen glad you had a better day.. hope today is good also :)
My stuffy nosy and throat is my sinuses I think , I used to suffer with it bad and when I was on HRT it went funny enough & now as come back
Suzy
Sorry you have had a bad morning & good for you to try and ride it out , I’m happy you had a relaxing calm evening.. and I hope the rest of your day gets better
It’s good to have a good husband & good friends to talk to , we are lucky in that way :)
Everyone who needs to know with me have been told and spoke to me about it , so they know if I’m agitated or not me .. they are aware .. Ive always found it better like that .. as dont have to pretend to be ok
Helen
Hope your having good days still :) and hope your well
I’m just relaxing ( or at least trying ) I have Hospital at 2.50 so as you know from previous i get all panicky and I have no idea why .. it’s so daft
Could also be because of the drive later aswell as I hate travelling on motorways & used to go everywhere by train and meet husband wherever we was going lol
Since all this though husband and son have said no way will I be going by train alone..
so could also be that .. hopefully it passes
Hope you ladies are well and have good days Xx
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Hi Gwen
Hope have another good day today
Suzy
Strangely my anxiety always eased in the evenings and came back in the mornings.
Michelle
Hope you manage your journey ok later and everything goes well tomorrow, are you returning home tomorrow or staying another night.
I’m suffering today due to a terrible nights sleep and the heart palpitations seem to be returning. Anxiety is low but I feel completely drained and when I doze I get a strange tingly feeling all over that jerks me back awake.
Hope to sleep better tonight, it does make so much difference.
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Good luck with everything Michelle. I hope your bloods were ok so you can have some rescue remedy. Safe journey xxxx
Helen,
Maybe it’s just over tiredness from your run? I get that jolting awake thing when I’ve been super busy … try and take it easy.
How long have you been on ads for? Do you think it’s them that have helped your anxiety?
My anxiety has started to ease from this morning. I hope I have another calm evening. X
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Hi ladies
Thankyou for well wishes
I did hospital:) blood still thin but not as much as last week so hopefully I don’t need the rescue remedy but if I do I will certainly use it for tomorrow only
It’s only because contains alcohol that it would interfere
We have now started our travels to Ipswich..
Just staying tonight Helen we will drive back tomorrow after the service , don’t think I could manage a few days away
Hope you both have a relaxing evening Xxx
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Take care Michelle, and try to be kind to yourself. If things feel overwhelming, just step away for 5 minutes. If you feel anxious in the car, have plenty of breaks xx
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Hi Suzy
I don’t take AD I have tried several Ssri’s, eg citalopram, but they made anxiety and insomnia go through the roof so each time gave up after 3 days. Did ask for mirtazapine once but go said they couldn’t give me it? Don’t know why unless it’s the slow heartbeat again.
I think it must be the HRT that has helped the anxiety, but it may just be coincidental as it did come and go a bit between October last year and this July when I started back on the patches.
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That’s odd they wouldn’t give you the mirtazapine? I have seen it mentioned lots on here.
I just can’t wait for the private appointment to ask about different HRT options and if I should just ride it out until my body gets used to not having it again x
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Hellish morning for me. At the moment mornings seem to be 10x worse. I’m so fidgety and jittery… absolutely nothing seems to calm me down.
I’m wondering if this will ever get better :'(
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Hi Suzy
Sorry you are suffering this morning, I always find they are the worst, hove you tried herbal stress relief or sleep aid tabs they both contain valerian hops and Passion flower, Nytol do them as sleep aid but are much cheaper for supermarket own brand. They do calm you down a bit can be taken anytime of day.
I took a sleeping tablet last night so slept longer but still feel tired and a little jittery and still some heart palpitations.
Going to wait another couple of weeks before going back to go I think
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I’ve not thought of herbal sleeping tablets… I might look into that thanks Helen.
Sorry you’re feeling jittery today. Don’t put off seeing your gp… make an appointment sooner rather than later xx
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Hi Suzy, I hope the day got better after the morning. I did read somewhere about adrenaline and cortisol being high in the morning in some people, something about being high to wake you up and get you started.. kicking in about 30 minutes post wake up. I know on weekdays with work I feel that way and I wonder if I can preempt it with a first thing workout.. but I am too lazy and busy on a work day to do it!
How are you Helen? I am hoping the jitters and palpitations passed for you too x
I had another good day yesterday and most of today but after lunch I had bad palpitations and now am anxious and dizzy again. I think its because I have the doctors tomorrow where I get results of my bloodwork and ultrasound and I am nervous about it. Wish me luck??
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Hi Gwen,
You’re probably just getting anxious about the dr appointment. .. but at least you’ve had another good day!
My morning has been awful as usual. I just feel like I’m in a hole with it all again. Every day is a struggle. I have absolutely no appetite either.
Michelle, thinking about you.. hope you’re ok xxx
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Hi Suzy
I’m back home :) we stayed an extra night with my sister
Funeral went as well as it could and he had a brilliant send off with all family & friends
I managed to walk behind his coffin with my brothers .. do the whole service & then whole of the burial & sit in his working mans club for 5 hours ( no drink just water ) I even got up to one of my dads song and danced to it.
Yesturday I was so proud of myself and so was my husband & family and I think the love for my dad made me kinda know I had to do it.
I didn’t even use the rescue remedy but kept it near by incase.
I did feel nervous and jittery but I just carried on because I had to for my dad
Today we drove home and now I’m laying on the bed as feel like I’ve got a chill which indeed coulda been from yesterday as we was sitting near the exit door ( smokers in and out ) so could be that as I couldn’t get warm at all yesterday even after we left and went to my sisters.
So honey and lemon drink today relaxing on bed in my pjs and wrapped up. & also Emotional because of yesterday
I was jittery this morning and shaky but for not that’s passed .. think this chill over took it all lol
Sorry to hear you have had another anxious morning Suzy …
One day this will all pass .. sooner rather than later I hope.
Hope your ok Xx
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Well done Michelle you really should be proud of yourself, I hope this is the start of better days for you. Hope the chill passes quickly.
Suzie sorry your having another bad morning, my day is awful as well, complete exhaustion and now anxiety. Maybe it is the fact that the antibiotics I had have not completely cured the possible Lyme disease.
Also we are due to go to Croatia on holiday at the weekend (postponed from last year) and I am worried but also feel I need to get away. My husband thinks this is the reason I am so bad, but it is the tiredness which is affecting me most, the anxiety whilst awful is familiar and I can more accept it.
Will this ever end, I hope so.
Gwen hope you are ok and you will be better when you have your doctors appointment.
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Hi Helen
Thankyou , hopefully this chill or whatever it is goes .. I’m still on bed wrapped up .. feel like have a head cold aswell .. but all could be connected
Sorry your feeling anxious & tired
Hopefully it passes and you have a fab time in Croatia
My holiday is December but gonna see how it all goes before we decide to reschedule or go
Hope you feel better in your self soon..
and I hope that tomorrow I wake up normal and not like I’m coming down with somthing ( wishful thinking )
I have heating on as can feel the weather as most definitely changed in temp
Would they check you again for Lymes Helen ??
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Well done Michelle. What a huge achievement!
I hope you haven’t caught anything! It could just be the pent up release of all the anxiety. The other week I had to go to bed feeling cold, but I was boiling hot… it passed after a few hours though.
Helen, I think it’s holiday anxiety. That can make you feel exhausted too… once you are there you will relax and enjoy it…. And you don’t need much energy to lay on a beach or by a pool!!!!
I have managed to do my back in. It’s agony. I did it this morning while retching over the sink whilst brushing my teeth. My gag reflex is so sensitive with the anxiety.
And there’s been another covid case in my sons class! X
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Hi Suzy
Hope your back eases soon …
Covid doing it’s rounds in the school… hopefully it skips your boy
I think this is just a chill with me & maybe a head cold as that’s how it feels , I did a test yesterday as to get into the working men’s club they required all to take a lateral flow one .. was negative & I did one at home today and also negative
But yesterday I couldn’t get warm at all so think it’s a chill & hopefully passes quickly , weather as definitely changed .. time to put away my flip flops hahaha
Suzy I do hope your back eases xx
Can you believe last day of the month tomorrow … I said today I’ve missed half of this year with all this going on … it’s mad xxx
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I hope you feel better tomorrow Michelle.
Yes, I feel like I’m wasting my life just trying to stay calm and get through the day.
I am noticing that come late afternoon/ evening I start to feel much better…. That’s happened the last few days. I don’t want to jinx anything though!!
Xx
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Hi ladies,
How are you all feeling today?
Michelle, are you feeling better?
I have had a crappy morning, but feeling better now. Took the dog out, but chilled this afternoon ( as usual)
Xx
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Hi Suzy
Glad your afternoon is getting better, it does seem that your anxiety is maybe wearing of earlier in the day than before.
I am still feeling very tired and tight chested with anxiety, but have been to work and managed ok, I too am always better in the evening.
Michelle hope you are feeling better
Gwen how are you today?
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Hello ladies
I much better today than yesterday but can still feel it slightly, hopefully by tomorrow I’m back to myself ( lol ain’t been myself for months )
Sorry you had another bad morning Suzy .. hopefully it all starts easing off quicker for you
Glad you had a better afternoon and chilled ( that’s my everyday )
Sorry to hear your feeling anxious Helen , it’s good you got out to work and cracked on .. I miss work and hopefully soon be back there..
I’ve done nothing today apart from usual clean up and relax trying to sweat whatever germs I have out
My sisters have come down with the same thing , so must have been the cold from door being open where we was sitting as couldn’t get warm all that day and evening .. can deffo feel the weather ad changed , I usually leave a door open for fresh air but today it’s stayed shut & even husband put heating on
Our summer as gone & winter is arriving
Hope you ladies are ok
Gwen did you get your results off GP hope all was ok Xx
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Hello ladies! I had a good couple of days with low anxiety. I did see the doctor yesterday and he informed me I am in unofficial menopause by looking at my hormone levels. Official menopause is 12 months no period and I am only at 5, but the hormones say I am unlikely to get another one. And the rest of the bloodwork and ultrasound was normal. No results from cardiologist yet though. Woot woot. That being said, I am still having flashes dizziness anxiety and all the other fun symptoms and he said those could last some time... no idea how long though.. months.. years... We discussed the anxiety and decided if I have another episode I should take Ativan (He gave me some pills to get me through it) and then start antidepressants. So for now I am going day to day and see how I am, and will see him again in 4 weeks.
Sounds like everyone was a tad better today? lets hope it keeps up! x
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Hi Gwen
Glad your results have all come back fine, it’s always a relief
Hopefully all other tests done come back ok also
Palpitations can be hormonal , so many suffer
Same as the aniexty and dizziness can be hormonal.. but hopefully it passes soon for each and every one of us
I used to get dizzy a lot .. ive not missed any periods yet .. so it does go to show we are all very different but can experience the same symptoms
I hope you have more good days than bad ..
Good that your doctor as done all above for you … some just wanna give antidepressants without even getting to route of the problem
Xxx
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Awful morning again. I seem to wake at about 5 with the anxiety rising. It’s so bad I vomit.
This seems to be the pattern at the moment…. Really bad mornings but better afternoons/ evenings.
I’ve managed to take the dog around the block… but I just feel exhausted all the time with this. I think my body is just getting exhausted. X
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Sorry to hear you have had another bad morning Suzy
I woke up at 5 & then managed another hour .. not so much anxious but very jittery and nervous feeling just feel not me … I’m actually bored of it now
I cleaned up and showered and went to local shop and that’s about it AGAIN
Suzy I hope your afternoon is better and evening & one morning I hope you wake up and not feel the aniexty
We have suffered long enough now .. surely gotta have a break soon
Hope your ok Xx
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I’m glad you are able to get out Michelle. I feel like I’m regressing a bit… I’m getting too anxious to socialise and go out again. The weather has been bad so I can’t sea swim…. So I potter and watch daytime tv….. like you, I’m so bored of this now!!!
What week are you on now?
I’m coming up to 8 weeks in the next few days….. I read somewhere it took 4 months for someone to feel better… I am having a hard time accepting I could be like this for another 2 months!
To be honest I’d take jittery and nervous over the relentless anxiety I’m feeling!! Xxx
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Hi Suzy
Im on week 9
10 weeks Tuesday
Getting too much daily now , I just wanna start getting some normality back..
I understand what you mean about the anxiousness to go out , that comes daily with me but I fight it just to go shop .. whilst I’m out I feel it and just wanna come back home .. yet when I’m at home I’m bored shitless
Weather hasn’t been great here either .. & I still don’t feel 100% from the chill .. keep getting on and off sore throat but feels like my throat is dry then get like a slight ear ache ( I suffer with sinuses so could be that ) wish it would do one
I read on here that a few felt ok by 12 weeks .. I was praying that was going to be me aswell
I can’t believe that your AD haven’t helped you yet .. seems you struggling when those should be taking off the edge for you kinda thing
In honesty I feel much better than week 1, 2 , 3 ,4 … and then it’s like take each day as it comes as never the same but 100% better than the first month ( thankfully )
It’s the physical feelings for me .. the brain don’t work so much over time anymore but the physical feelings just keep coming back and that sets off panic
It’s just bizzare and horrendous..
what can we do , but ride it out and hope that we are lucky and this goes away ..
I have appitite back and I’ve actually put on 3lb which I’m thankful for as hated losing weight from this
One day Suzy … we will be ourselves again …. Sooner hopefully than later
Xxx
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Well I don’t know if they are helping..
Pros.
Noise sensitivity reduced to practically 0
Feeling better by the afternoon
Not as tearful
Not had any suicidal thoughts all week
Cons
Morning anxiety worse
Waking at 5 am ( I’m normally fast asleep until at least 7)
Morning sickness
Still no appetite
So it’s a mixed bag.
Michelle, you sound like you are doing loads better. You have come a long way. Every day is a step closer….
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So Your AD are working for the pros & Maybe the Cons is the patch and withdrawing etc
My sis in law as always suffered aniexty and in 2014 she went on sertraline and it kept it at bay for her
This year she as upped her tablet from 50mg to 200mg and she is still suffering ( hormones) and she is signed off work also it’s mad how hormones can do this to us when it’s meant to be a natural thing.
Are you gonna use HRT again ??
I’m gonna go as far as I can without
Obviously I’m still in peri .. so long way to go for me and I’m gonna ride it as far as I can without
I feel better as said and maybe I’m in a rush to get back to myself and do things that I always did
I will push myself a bit harder I think as I wanna just go out and do things without thinking this and that will happen
Work I miss but that’s always gonna be there when I’m ready .. but I really wanna start feeling me as I was
Let’s hope these next few weeks are the weeks we are waiting for.
Xxx
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Your poor sister in law. Who knew what hormones would do to us.
I’m on the fence about HRT again. If I were to go on it again it would have to be for life, as I could never go through this again. I will wait and see what the specialist says on the 14 th.
You will get there… I think you’ve come a long way in the last 2 weeks.
Xx
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Yeah I agree , gotta be forever .. I would never do a withdrawal off HRT again .. but then saying that , depends how bad I felt on it
But I will try my hardest to stay off as long as possible until maybe my body needs it.
Hope they can suggest somthing for you
I feel like I’m moving forward .. but we both know how quick that can change.
Positive thinking tho xxx
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I hope the next few weeks go well for you guys and you feel yourselves again! I am still hoping i dont need to go on meds at all, it is interesting however how everyone’s experience of this is so different. I thought i was doing so well today and was counting almost a week of quasi normality.. and tonight just sitting here i looked at my Apple Watch and spotted my resting heart rate average today was only 55 an freaked out. I am not an athlete and my resting rate has been dropping day over day. I would like to think its because i am going deep breathing and meditation every day now and drinking chamomile tea but i am worried again something serious is going on and I had a panic attack. Good news is I am midst tests with a cardiologist but it still freaked me out. I dont know why it happens so easily.. my heart is racing now of course.. I am such a mess :'(
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Gwen
How I agree with you my resting heart rate goes down to 49! And that is what triggered my acute health anxiety exactly a year ago.
Cardiologist just said you fine your just fit!
I do some running but no more than 10km and not super fast, so no athlete!
I think the fitness watches can really trigger anxiety, try not to wear it, I never wear it at night now but find it hard to give it up entirely.
I am doing better at the moment by no means normal but better.
Sleep is my big problem usually on 4 hours a night so feel tired all day, never been able to nap during the day unfortunately.
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Morning ladies
How are we this morning ??
Gwen I stopped wearing my Apple Watch as it’s to easy to freak us out.
Also I don’t know how accurate they actually are anyways but I most definitely stopped wearing it & also stopped doing my BP as in mid panic that would make me panic more.
It’s good your already being seen by Doctor & soon I hope you get results that will help you.
It’s good you haven’t took medication but you know it’s there if you ever need it. I will ride as long as I can without it
Helen , how are you ? Sorry about your sleeping pattern .. mine as been like that forever .. but just lately ( hope I’m not jinxing myself ) I’ve been waking up around 4-5 am and been dropping back off .. where as before I was never able to drop back off .
I hope that’s a good sign.. it’s awful when have no sleep tho as the day seems so long and any little thing can trigger somthing off.
How are your days now ?? Are you still having good days .. I hope you are
Suzy how are you this morning ?, hope your ok
I’m still on my bed at the min drinking my decaff coffee .. I will get up and move soon .. weather not great as you know so I don’t know what today is gonna have in store for me .. will clean and go from there
I’m jittery and on edge again this morning , & I still have that sore throat feeling , had it almost a week now .. it’s not so much pain it’s just annoying as I can feel it ..but know it can be from my sinuses ..
wish it would do one now , I hate things when they linger
Anyways ladies I hope your all well Xx
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Morning ladies,
Gwen… I think you should not wear your Apple Watch. It’s best not to know every little thing if it’s triggering your anxiety.
I’m pretty pants as usual. I woke up really early and got the dog out before the rain. I have taken a diazepam, but to be honest, I feel just as anxious. Even though I feel better in the afternoons, the intensity of my anxiety has increased quite a bit in the morning. I really don’t know what’s going on.
Xxx
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Suzy it’s bizzare that even taking the diazepam is not making you feel not anxious ..
I’m wondering if it’s the withdrawal and also own hormones underneath aswell like double whammy
I read a few ladies suffered aniexty in the actual menopause..
Who knows really .. all I know is tht I wish it would kindly do one for me and for you & everyone else who is suffering
I got up cleaned up and went shop & now having a hot lemon and honey drink .. try get rid of these poxy germs ( I presume it’s my sinuses and nasal drip ) I’ve been taking my sinuses spray so hopefully it stops it all soon giving me the hump
Hope your ok Suzy and your day gets less anxious for you .. I hate to think of you suffering xx
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Thanks Michelle,
Yes, the day gets better. I feel much better come 3/4pm.
I’m heading into week 8 next week of this hell. …
I hope everyone has had a good day xx
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Glad you have felt better as the day as gone on Suzy .. least you can now relax
I’m week 10 on Tuesday and I’m praying for that spark to come back .. surely we are near the light at the end of the tunnel now :)
My day ain’t been to bad and apart from earlier and cook I’ve done nowt as usual lol , although with this rain I wouldn’t have done much had I felt my normal self
Xxx
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Good evening ladies
It’s been another day that has been ok, not great, but not awful.
Of course I am stressing about flying tomorrow and low level palpitations are pretty constant.
As you say Michelle just looking forward that spark to return.
Strangely When I did an on line mindfulness class yesterday you had to just write whatever came into your head for 5 minutes with out thinking about it and to my surprise my thoughts were positive. It really made me feel much better.
Hope your evening is good everyone
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Helen
I’m glad you have a had a ok day .
I hope you have best time whilst your away , even when I wasn’t suffering this I was always slightly on edge day before we was about to go away abroad & I always spent most my time on toilet in the airport lol both there and return I was without realising nervous .. and yet we always went away 3-4 times a year
I think once your on plane you will be fine , I hope you will be
Sounds good the mindfulness.. positive is best way forward I say that all the time.
And I always try and stay as positive as I can .. sometimes when this is at its worse I’m not as positive
Hope you have best time away .. enjoy and relax Xx
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Have a wonderful time away Helen. I’m sure it’s just travel nerves. I used to get it… it’s normal. It will melt away as soon as you’re on that flight. Xx
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Yeah agreed, no more looking at the Apple Watch.. the cardiologist will probably agree. And I had a good day again but again this evening the anxiety is back again. I picked up my Ativan today and am hoping i dont need to use it but its comforting that its there if i do. The doctor said its kinda like taking a shot of booze so like what Suzy felt, I imagine it will take the edge off but not get rid of the anxiety entirely.. but maybe everyone is different? Like how my anxiety hits at 4pm when Suzys is clearing up…
Hope your sinuses clear up soon Michelle, I have post nasal drip too but since i moved house (down the street) a few months ago it weirdly hasn’t been as bad and I have no idea why cos nothing else changed (asides from the actual house lol).
Helen enjoy your flight tomorrow. I read somewhere that excitement feels like anxiety and the two are so similar biologically that I often get anxious before a holiday and have to persuade myself its not anxiety, it’s excitement!! Have a great time away, a break may do you a lot of good!
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Morning ladies
Hope we are all well this morning and I hope Helen is on her flight
Suzy how are you this morning ? Hope your ok
Gwen I’m glad your ditching the watch and I hope all results are good when you get them
Yes most definitely we are all different but the aniexty is the same for us all , just different times etc
Glad you have good days
How wierd about your sinuse drip , funny enough when I went on HRT patches I didn’t once have to use my spray it’s like it went …& now come back but I’m take it as a good sign that everything is levelling out as most my aches and pains pre HRT are coming back , just need my body back now lol
Hope your ok and it’s good to know you have the tablet incase you need it
I’ve prepared a stew and it’s in slow cooker this morning and now about to do my usual every day things , then go from there
Hope you all have good days
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Hi girls,
I’ve had my usual unbearable morning. My legs get so restless I can’t keep them still… and I felt very sick all morning.
Took the dog out first thing… tried to relax with some meditation. Popped to Lidl…. Now I’m going to try and calm down and chill.
I’m so over this intense morning anxiety…. I don’t know how much longer I can put up with it…
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Hi Suzy .. you done well to still do the things you did today
The restless legs are awful , I only used to get them when I was due on , but since coming off patch I get them a lot .. and nothing can do with them
I do get shakes in my legs a lot and usually feel off balance mad it is .. all these things from hormones
I get very agitated aswell , like I lost all my patience so if I’m in Shop I wanna be in and out straight away .. I don’t wanna hand around in a que ( I would spend hours out before ) not now in & out
The nausea for me as gone , ( I hope it never returns ) I used to get it certain times every day without fail but I never actually vomited , this is one thing I hope stays away
I do hope you get to chill and relax for the day
I’ve cleaned up and put stew on this morning and made myself a cheese & potato pie ( Me and hubby eat different things as I hate veg ) I’ve had a shower and wrote out my Christmas card list ready for the day I go to get them
and now I’m
Going for a 10 min walk just for bit of fresh air
Might go a drive with husband later after he as cleaned his van … always cleaning it lol
Today is dry so must make the most of it as rain is forecast most the week
Have a good day ladies xx x
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It’s crazy how we can have all these vile symptoms from hormones! It feels like a living hell!
I’ve just managed another walk with the dog, before the rain sets in.
You are coping really well Michelle. I can’t get my head around cooking at the moment… my husband is doing it all.
I hope you have a nice afternoon.
I’m cutting my son’s hair in a bit. ( when I say cutting… I’m butchering it with the clippers) ;)
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That’s good you got out for another walk .. I went out with husband and got him to take me to the card factory
Whilst I was in there I could feel panic and so nearly walked out I handed all cards to husband , I’m like I need to get air and I’m hot … he said you won’t feel no different out side to in here ( which he was right ) so I qued spoke to lady and paid and walked out still panicky but I did it .. and then went greggs because I could and Lidl mad that something tht was so normal a few months ago is like a big thing today .. it was most deffo panic
I’m home now and food is on
I always cook , I couldn’t at the beginning as everything was so much worse than now , but just lately I cook as I can always sit down why I’m doing it .. we still have a fair few takeaways but now the cold weather is coming I will use the slow cooker a Lot for husband ( easy )
Suzy i lol at your sons hair .. I was thinking oh is she a hairdresser then read the last bit haaaaaaa
Hope you have a good afternoon Suzy xx
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It’s weird how simple small things can become so hard to do. I totally get why you wanted to run out…. You just want to get in, get it done, get out. You did amazing to hang on in there… good on your husband to talk you around!
In Lidl today I just rushed around… no browsing… bish, bash, bosh…out!
My sons hair was a disaster…. He looked like a reverse monk!! Lol… I had to go grade 1 all over in the end! I think he will be wearing his beanie all week!! Lol
It’s so strange how bad I feel all morning… but come 3 pm it just switches off! I wish I could feel like this all day!! Xx
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Suzy, I feel exact same as you but in reverse! I feel bad after 4pm but good all day. So I am trying to remember that this will pass and I will be better tomorrow. And distract myself as much as possible in the evening, and maybe go to bed early!
Have you tried like an aerobic workout in the morning to burn the anxiety out now that the sea swimming is done? Maybe meditation then too?
Michelle do you know what triggered the panic or was it just out the blue like mine?
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Gwen, I have started taking the dog out early and having a brisk walk around the field near my house. It helps with my restless legs.
It’s odd how our anxiety affects us in reverse. I think I would rather feel good all day to be honest… you can just go to bed to get away from it at night!
I woke at 3 dripping with sweat and anxious… luckily managed to go back to sleep until 6.
Xxxx
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Morning ladies
Hope your well
Gwen mine is every time I have to go and do something , it comes on from no where & I don’t and won’t ever understand it. And it’s only since this year that it as happened .. I blame hormones and jabs although I personally think it’s more hormones
I’ve never been like that in my whole 47 years so it’s very odd but hopefully it starts getting better as time goes by
It’s like I’m agitated too .. who knows why it happens
Suzy hope your morning is ok , good you got the dog out earlier and hopefully it helps your legs .. I been saying tht I gonna walk each day no matter how short or far just so my legs are less restless
I have hospital today , so my body is in panic mode again bizzzzzare as I do this every week & I know I’ll be fine
That’s when I’ll know I’m getting back to myself as these things won’t ever be a issue .. let’s hope these coming weeks are the weeks I’m waiting for ..
Hope everyone as good days today .. Xx
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Michelle,
I hope your appointment goes ok. Yes… it’s crazy how something you routinely have done for years can have such an affect. Madness.
Do you get restless legs every day? Do you think it’s the anxiety or have you had it before?
I have gone out again with the dog. Nice long walk. I get panicky when I’m out, but I just try and breathe through it. I also feel quite weak… but then my body has been going through all this trauma for ages now…
I looked on my calendar… I took my patch off on the 8 August.
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Hi Suzy
That’s how I get when I go out , it’s madness
I also feel weak as if I’ve not got the energy I used to have , but I put that down to not doing much .. where as before I was always doing things and hardly sat down
I don’t get restless legs everyday but when I get them they are very achy & nothing helps .. I had one week where it was each day from waking to sleeping and I was like what the hell is happening, I put down to another symptom of coming of patch to be honest
Now I get them every now and again .. Today they are ok for now .. strange old body lol
I did get restless legs occasionally before when I was due a period , you know a couple days before where your restless that’s only time I’ve ever had them.
I also had nausea for a whole week at certain times of the day .. that’s passed for now ( thankfully )
I took mine off Tuesday 27th July .. I didn’t write it down but I can remember ripping it off and thinking now it’s time for me back ….. still waiting 😂😂
10 weeks for me tomorrow and lots have improved since the first month that was so baddddddd but I had suffered why I was on patch aswell so was like I had 4 months of it … so days like today ain’t as bad as them days although still there
You are 2 weeks behind me Suzy …
I’m glad you got back out .. you still reading the book ?
Today I’ve done my usual cleaning and been to the shops twice and now I’ll go hospital so I’m getting out a bit more than the last months when it was bad. Although not far it’s out
I can’t wait for the day I go and do my normal stuff that I used to before all this
I’m gonna try and push my self a bit further where I’m comfortable doing it.
Although with this weather won’t be a lot
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I think the weakness must be from the shock our bodies have been through. It has affected us so badly mentally, it must take it out on us physically. The extra adrenaline from the anxiety is exhausting on its own.
How did your hospital appointment go Michelle?
You have come along quite a bit in the last couple of weeks if you look back through these posts… hopefully I will make some progress over the next couple of weeks too. Xx
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Hi Suzy
Hospital went ok , I’ve not gotta go back until 14th now so that’s good and they did me a morning one , so ain’t gotta panic all day about it
I was explaining to him about the aniexty and he told me take vitamin C and also oranges are a good thing to eat
Why I have no idea .. but worth a shot .. I actually love oranges but stopped eating them due to my acid reflux that I was suffering
I’m sure I actually read about oranges before and dismissed it .. this time I’ll try vitamin C
I’m home now and cooking :)
Oh deffo Suzy my body as never felt this weak before but at somepoint we will be strong again , I can feel it
Let’s hope this week is a good week
Xxx
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I think I’ll get some vitamin c in. I already take magnesium because it’s meant to be good for anxiety.
Yes, we will get better… xxx
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Vitamin C! I need to try that. I had to adjust my diet as i have a family history of osteoporosis and supposedly now is the time your bones start to leach calcium. I need to take 1200mg a day, from food.. and its so hard! I never took so much dairy in my life. Now I need to add an orange a day too, that’s fun, the weight will go back on again lol.
Again i had a good day but I worked out and as i was cooling down and stretching i got really lightheaded and it hasn’t passed. My heart rate is ok (Apple Watch again sorry) and I am not dehydrated so assume its fun menopausal symptoms again.. something new every day.
Also dr google said even if your hormones show menopause like my doctor said they do, they can change daily which is why i have to wait the 12months post last period… and if they are bouncing up and down, would explain the anxiety etc..
Michelle morning appointment sounds a good idea, get it over with.. as long as you dont stay awake worrying.
I used to get restless legs, it was my magnesium supplement, was also causing Charlie horses which were the worst so don’t take them any more.
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Hello ladies
I took vitamin C today :)
How are you all ??
I woke up all jittery and on edge & tight feeling chest but think I may be due sometime in next week so could be why as I think this happened last month also..
I’ve been reading up on POP pill that was suggested & im contemplating if would be of any use to me .. but I see the word aniexty and puts me off , because I couldn’t handle all this again no Chance
How are you this morning Suzy ?? Hope you have had a better morning
Gwen I only take vitamin D and now Vitamin C as in took one today
There is a lot I can’t have vitamin wise as can interfere with medication I’m on , so I’m always limited so to speak
I’m glad you had a better day and hope your dizziness passed
That was one of the first things I had but I had it after the jab so always blamed that for a while
Hormones are always bouncing up and down and that’s the cause of all of our symptoms.. I wish I was one that never suffered
My mom didn’t know she was even going through change .. she said she had missed several periods and thought she was pregnant lol and that was it ..
lucky so n so .. she was also 53 she said
Maybe if I had not taken the HRT I wonder if I would have been so bad ?? I will never know
Anyways ladies hope your ok .. I’ve got a curry cooking in slow cooker .. I’ve done my usual crap of the day lol & I’ll go shop maybe later .. I will see how I feel
10 weeks HRT free today … Getting Closer & Closer to that 3-6 months … too think this time 10 weeks ago I thought I was gonna be back to my normal self over night 😂😂
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Hi all,
Well I took an antihistamine last night to help with the sleep and sickness… I slept solid until 7! Got up, saw my son off to school, walked the dog, then had to go back to bed.. it had really knocked me out!
But… my anxiety is way down, I haven’t felt sick or had restless legs and jitteryness.
I’m just waiting to see what the afternoon brings xx
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Hi Suzy
Which one did you take ??
It’s good you slept and that the aniexty is low … hopefully it stays like that but hopefully you feel human aswell instead of feeling knocked out kinda thing
Shame they can’t give us something that does not knock us out .. xx
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I took one called phenergan. You can buy it over the counter… mine was on prescription.
I still feel tired now! Just took the dog out again. Had a bit of a panic attack halfway around.. but carried on.
Going to potter in the garden now x
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Hi Suzy
Now I know it’s knocked you out I’ll give a miss lol
I’m glad you got out again and worked through the panic
Do you think you will take another one ?
I’m still reading up about pill … I will keep reading and reading lol
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I might take half tonight, as it really helped with the sickness and morning anxiety. See what it does.
I’ve not heard of that pill. Do lots of research… but don’t start anything yet until the hormones have settled down.
How have you been feeling today?
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Hi Suzy
Been on and off on edge all day , exactly same as last time my period was due ( by tht I mean the week before )
That’s how I know it’s hormones that causes all this ..
that’s the reason I was looking up the pill
It’s a mini pill but it’s desterogel however you spell it … so it’s progesterone only and think they do it in 4 brand names so cerazzette is one and cerelle is another
I think it’s stops ovulation and levels hormones from what I’m kinda reading
I won’t take yet .. I wanna see what’s what first but this is what I was told by DR Currie on here and she knows her stuff . as when I emailed , with all my past and symptoms and why I went on HRT & That things got worse aniexty wise and she suggested the above & said because I feel it at mid cycle n before cycle starts that this would be good
& further down the line when the night sweats etc come in she would suggest a low dose hrt as this time I was put straight on 50 dose ..
Hopefully the half tablet helps you suzy .. if it’s better for you aniexty wise :)
Let me know how half goes xx
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My sister in law as just informed me she is on the pill that I have been looking up.
She as been on it 11 years and as no periods and said occasionally she feels like a few period cramps and that’s it.
And also my niece is 21 and she is on same on also & as no periods
The periods I’m not so much bothered about , but reading my email again
She said if my hormones are fluctuating this pill would help
And HRT would be when my hormones are falling & all symptoms I had could have been fluctuating because of the times it was happening
Mad really that i added the hormones and I probably didn’t need it & too much overloading of hormones can actually cause the aniexty ,Shakes , tremors , panic.
Bloody hormones.
I’m gonna speak with my GP and get her to prescribe some and then I have for when I think I want to take
I would take now if I knew it wouldn’t set off aniexty again.
I will phone pharmist aswell
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Suzy
How did you go with half tablet ?
Hope your ok & your morning is good Xx
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Hi Michelle
Well, taking half didn’t help with sleep or anxiety, but it took the sickness away, so I could manage a cuppa and some breakfast this morning.
Kept busy. Took the dog out, pottered in the garden, cleaned bathroom etc..
I’ve got the drs at 3 so I’ll see what she says.
How are you feeling today? Xx
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Hopefully the doctor helps and prescribes something to help you
I’m ok got up springed cleaned and mopped all floors & showered and Went to bakery and local shop
And now at mother in laws , I bought her some lunch down
And I’ll head back soon maybe ( we live same street but at other ends of the street )
I woke up feeling on edge again I’m just trying to carry on but it’s as you know overwhelming at times..
I will phone my pharmacist up later and see what she suggests with the Desogestrel
I just eaten 2 boiled egg crusty rolls , I have deffo got my appetite back , and I’m trying to add in things I used to eat like choc and biscuits .. as once Aniexty took over and I lost appetite, I stopped eating it all thinking oh maybe that made it worse when infact it don’t lol
Same as coffee I stopped drinking tht but now I have a decaff coffee each day
I always used to drink coffee when we was out and about in town and I wanna get back to as normal as possible ,
I used to only drink maybe 3 cups a day in total so never been a big coffee drinker like my husband is
Hopefully as day goes on this on edge feeling dissapears
I’ve just taken my vitamin C see if that help .. ( anything worth a shot lol )
My best friend gone on holiday today and I’m hoping and praying I’ll be ok for mine since she sent me the pictures today..
fingers crossed Xx
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Yes, talk to their and pharmacist about the pill…. But I would leave it for a while as your hormones haven’t settled enough yet.
I hope you’re feeling better this afternoon.
My anxiety is just starting to ramp up again as I’ve got the drs in a bit. Crazy isn’t it how it affects normal things.
And yes.., I agree… it can get pretty overwhelming. I’m overwhelmed with it constantly…. Xx
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I find the most bizzare thing is how it comes on , when doing somthing we would do on a daily weekly basis …I will never get my head around it.
Hope all goes well at the doctors for you.
Oh deffo Suzy .. I’m not upsetting this boat yet lol .. I will find out what pharmacist thinks , t’s not been 3 months off the patches yet so I know they ain’t settled 100%
Just be good to know ..
I’ve just got home from mother in laws spent few hours with her xx
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The dr wants me to change meds from citalopram to venlafaxine as she thinks I should have seen a better improvement by now. She said I don’t need to taper the citalopram down I can just do a straight swap, so I’m starting them tonight and praying I see some benefit soon.
I’m glad you’ve had company today Michelle…. You wouldn’t have been able to stay there that long a few weeks ago, so you’re definitely improving. Xx
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I hope they work for you suzy , my mate is on them and she told me they helped with her aniexty , so I hope they help you too & you can get back to some normality too.
Yeah I think so too Suzy.. I said that myself that over a month ago I was stuck in house and would only leave to get in the car .. so I see the improvement.. let’s hope these next few weeks show bigger improvement
I can feel I’m better than I was , I just now wanna get Bck to normal as you yourself are waiting for that day
I pray these tabs work for you , been a very long couple of months for us and it’s about time we started seeing the light Xx
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I pray they work too Michelle… I really need a break!
We will get there…… thank god we’ve got this forum!
Xxxx
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How you doing today Suzy , hope all is ok your end :)
I’m on edge again today but think I’m due this weekend ( I think )
It’s not so intense but deffo I’m aware of it & palpitations but I get them daily anyways , I didn’t sleep to great felt like had the burning pain in ribs again , probably eaten something to flare it up ( maybe chocolate or skittles lol ) or infact could be the vitamin c maybe …
I won’t take one today or eat choc or sweets and see if it dissapears as could well be just a flare up of it
It’s not bad bad like before which is a good thing ..as that’s when my appetite went .. so hopefully it dissapears
Hope your ok Suzy Xx
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Hi,
I’m ok. I took a venlafaxine last night, so I’m going to be getting used to a new anxiety med, I also took one of the antihistamine tablets… I was ok this morning, but I’ve been asleep all afternoon!
I hope you managed to feel less jittery xx
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Hopefully the tabs kick in for you soon Suzy
Those tabs knock you out still then , but I’m glad your ok
I’ve been same most the day but still went out for a small walk :)
Tonight I’m pretty much the same but I’m gonna get into bed and relax
Xxx
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Hi ladies
I’ve had a pretty pants day.
Side effects from the venlafaxine has been nausea and shaking… took an antihistamine last night and pretty much slept all day again.
It’s early days with the venlafaxine though, so I’ve just got to ride it out.
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Hi Suzy , hope the tablets settle soon.. it’s good your getting some sleep although I doubt you want to sleep all day.
Hopefully your tabs kick in quick
Ive had a edgy day but I know it’s because of being due & not as bad as it used to be so I’m taking that as a good sign
We had a power cut and no water since 2.30 , so been sat by candle light nice and relaxing
Now tucked up in bed & we finally have electric & water yayyyyyyyy
Hopefully tomorrow is a better day Suzy Xx
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Hi
How are you feeling today Michelle?
I’m still really tired, and I’ve still got the shakes… but I’m less anxious today. I know it’s very early days, but I hope these tablets are starting to work.
Just had a walk with the dog, it’s really nice out here.
Xx
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Hi Suzy
Glad you feel less anxious that’s a good sign I hope. & glad you have been out .. it lovely and dry here today also and this morning was really foggy ..
I’m ok , apart from cramps but I started my cycle today so that’s why & explains the last few days as I’ve been on edge .. no where near as bad as last month and month before so hopefully that’s a good sign for me :) time will tell
We had no electric again this morning but thankfully after calling at 7am by 10 it was back on :) .. have been keeping everything on charge all day abs doing everything that I possibly can incase it goes off again as they can’t find the fault at substation so they think it will happen again
Im now gonna go to shop and then maybe for a drive with husband
Hope you have a good day Suzy and I hope that your tablets are what’s making you feel less anxious Xx
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I’m glad your feeling better.
My shakes are horrible. I hope it’s a side effect that settles quickly. :'(
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Hopefully it settles for you , did you have shakes with your aniexty ?
I did whole body would shake & legs would feel like jelly
I’ve been shop and been for drive with husband and sent him into asda lol
I couldn’t be bothered to go in today but he don’t mind , always tells me do things when I’m ready.
He wants a roast tomorrow he as no choice does he hahahahha
Suzy hope the shakes stop for you .. Xx
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Hi,
How are you today?
I’ve had a horrible morning. I’m still really shaking…. I had a panic attack out with the dog and had to come home. I feel awful.
Going back to bed and sleeping is the only thing that helps.
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Oh suzyyy I’m so sorry you had a panic attack whilst out and a horrible morning
It’s never ending
I’m fuzzy headed and jittery & panicky today hot like just warm all over and aching all over .. think could be because of period
I’ve done usual as in clean and dinner is on & then I’m gonna have a shower and do nothing for rest of the day , as much as I try crack on today I just don’t have it in me .. I’m having a can’t be bothered day
When is this bloody nightmare gonna end
Suzy I hope the rest of you me day gets better, I really do ..
I can’t wait for us to catch a break , although mine feels bad for me .. yours sounds horrific & I feel for you
Xxx
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It’s just the pits Michelle. I’m so sick of it.
It sounds like your anxiety is because of your period being due. I hope you have had a restful day.
I’ve perked up a bit this afternoon… but I’m light headed … side effects from the venlafaxine. Ugh x
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I’m glad you feel bit better Suzy
It’s like everyday is ground hog day
Mine is because I started period yesterday, and it’s pretty heavy and I’m crampy .. so I believe all mine is happening because of that , which is proof that’s it’s hormones causing all this.
I feel ok now just bloated , I’ve eaten & now just relaxing
Gonna have a shower and see if that makes me feel better and fresher in myself damn stupid effing hormones lol thts as polite as can say anything
Suzy I hope you don’t suffer for long on these new tabs , I didn’t think you would get side effects because of already having a different SSRI in body
But I hope these ones work pretty quick for you & all side effects go fast
Xxxx
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I thought I wouldn’t get too bad side effects either… but I’m so sensitive to everything….
Xx
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How you feeling this morning Suzy ?
Hope your ok Xx
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I’m feeling really anxious. My chest feels tight. I’m feeling pretty rough on the venlafaxine so far. Ugh
How are you feeling? X
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I hope as the morning goes on that you feel better ,
I’m ok same as usual jittery panicky lightheaded woozy no change.
I’m hoping after this period things start to settle ..
can live in hope Suzy.
Let us know how your day goes just hope it gets better for you.
Xx
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I’m feeling worse than ever. It’s not easy switching meds. X
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I hope after all this that you start to feel better , it’s been a long few months for me and you , but your suffering more & more & I thought you would have seen some improvement by now with having AD
makes me think is it the tablets
Would you have been better off without them maybe ( just a thought )
In the long run I do hope they help you and all side effects go away & you start to feel yourself again.
This journey is a nightmare and I’m only at the beginning….. lord help me !!
I think once all this aniexty panic jitteryness goes dissapears
I can handle all the rest .. at least I think I could, if I can handle all this crap I have since May then I’m sure I can handle it
11 weeks off patches tomorrow .. let’s hope I get spark back soon
I do feel better as I’ve said before and I’m better than I was over a month ago .. just each day I wake up and think pleaseeeeeee let today be a good day.
Everything I took for granted is now a struggle it’s unreal ..
Suzy I hope your day gets better for you
Xx
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How you doing today Suzy xxx
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Really bad. I’m feeling awful. I’ve got withdrawal from the citalopram as well as getting used to the venlafaxine. Been on the sofa all day. This is a never ending nightmare for me.
How are you feeling?
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Oh Suzy , I thought & was hoping that today woulda been a better day for you :(
I’m ok same as usual and trapped wind to go with..
11 weeks for me today , I’m
Praying for that 12 week spark to come
I live in hope
I hope you feel better as evening goes on Suzy & I hope tomorrow is a better day for you Xx
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Yes, I feel better this evening… still fuzzy headed… but better in my self.
Thanks Michelle xx
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Hi Suzy , hope Your ok and are having a better morning today.
Xx
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Hi Michelle,
Yes, I’m having a better morning. Managed to get out with the dog. The side effects of the meds aren’t so intense today.
How are you feeling today? X
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That’s good Suzy , hopefully your on the road to normal now :)
I’m ok same as normal .. did CBT this morning and a relaxation based around hormones .. let’s see if it works
Was very relaxing to say the least
I’ve done my usual everyday things indoors and I will more than likely go shop after lunch just for the sake of going ( don’t need anything )
Hope you have a good day Suzy … onwards and upwards for us I hope :)
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Well it’s been better again today. Still getting used to the meds, but much less anxiety.
I spoke with the menopause specialist. He just confirmed what we already know… body has gone into shock from giving then taking away hormones. He said it’s not particularly common, but he has seen it happen plenty of times.
He suggested I give the venlafaxine a good couple of months to work, and if I still feel bad he would start me on a very low dose of natural estrogen with bio identical progesterone only for a few days of the month and see how I go.. he also is writing to my gp and requesting a scan for me as I had the bleed.
It’s good to know he will be there if I need him.
How has your day been Michelle? X
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Hi Suzy , I’m glad you have felt less anxious hopefully this is the way to go :)
So we know for a certain that the withdrawal is the cause of our symptoms , funni enough my pharmist phoned me today to see how I was & I said I wasnt 100% but its much better than what it was & she said that its a good sign as body is getting used to having nothing added …
I woke up panicky and anxious as had hospital but it passed but this afternoon I keep going hot and have a fuzzy head and feel jittery and anxious ( not bad but I’m aware ) actually feel like I’m gonna have another period but .. I’ve only finished yesterday so could be again hormones ( effing things )
Do you feel better since talking to the specialist?
Xxx
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Hi
Feeling better today. Minimal anxiety… more energy. Hopefully I’m getting used to the venlafaxine and settling down. Even had a lie in until 9.30!
Hope everyone is well xx
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Brilliant suzy , good to hear :)
I’ve had the worst headache past 2 days , dunno if it’s my hormones fluctuating but be glad when it goes.
Aniexty is not so intense but it’s in background same a jittery ness and nervousness but again I know this is hormones and being in peri I know they fluctuating ( going on the pill sounds like a good thing to level this out I hope ) still not decided yet.
On a whole apart from headache from hell all is good. :)
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I still get headaches that last 3 days, even post menopause. They are horrible. I hope yours goes.
Had a good day anxiety wise.
Xxx
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Hi Suzysheep
So pleased to read about your progress!!! Hope you continue to feel better and better every day! xxx
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Thanks Ella
Another good day anxiety wise, but I’m still really tired… still getting used to the medication.
Xx
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It sounds like you are going in the right direction and remember it's still early days. I would expect the drowsiness will start to improve over the next few weeks.
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Suzy , glad to hear your aniexty is less , I hope you start feeling yourself again soon …
12 weeks off HRT for me today and I’m waiting for that spark to come flying at me lol
Although generally I feel better as the weeks go by .. I still know I’m not myself but hopefully as time goes on I start to feel the old me come back :)
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Wow… 12 weeks already! It’s 10 for me.
It’s been a really tough few months for us hasn’t it!
I swear I’m going to have PTSD after all this!
I’m feeling better anxiety wise, but still very tired…. A bit flat and tearful sometimes…. But, I’ll take that over the crippling anxiety!
I’ve got my fingers crossed that spark hits you this week Michelle!! X
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We certainly have Suzy … hopefully we have better months ahead of us
I’m glad your not so anxious ..
the other things could be your tablets kicking in and side effects, hopefully it’s the magic pill for you
I said that about PTSD .. said this will stick with me for life .. ( I hope not )
Hope your days get better Suzy and soon your back to your self , where whatever gets thrown at you .. you can handle
I still taking each day as it comes as just never know what’s what .. 12 weeks so longgggg when your living this nightmare but I look and think I’m still here I’ve survived .. so is it that bad ( yes it bloody is lol )
Today I got up went to shop .. see a friend who asked could I watch her dog whilst she ran into shop .. of course I said yes .. then I walked down road with her as I headed off to my mother in laws and then did what I had to do and walked back .. I’ve had a fuzzy head all day and I used to get these before I started HRT could that finally be out of my body .. I hope so :)
I won’t expect miracles as I know how this can just change in a instance
Suzy we will have light at the end of the tunnel .. look how far we have come and the horrendous journey we have had …
Things can surely only get better and this was just an eye opener for us ..
Hope you feel better as day goes on Suzy I’m just so glad your not as anxious Xx
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That’s good you’ve been out again.
Yep… things can only get better, we’ve survived this, we can survive anything!
Me and husband had a nice walk in the woods with the dog. The fresh air always does me good.
Xx
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That’s good Suzy that you went out and had a good walk :)
I love the fresh air .. I went back out with husband & was ready to eat out but hubby had a phone call so we had takeaway instead .. ( woulda been first time eating out and I was ok about it too ) things deffo must be looking up.
Obviously might not wanna eat out for a while again now .. but knowing today I was ready for it .. I’ll take it as a good day
Hope your day got better Suzy
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Another better day. I think things are starting to turn around now. The venlafaxine is doing it’s job and I’m so much better… the anxiety is much reduced.
Xx
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Brilliant news Suzy .. that’s what I like to read … better days are on the way wooooohooooooo :)
I went for a longer walk today , like I always used to .. i could have gone longer but I got cold .. as didn’t realise was that cold out and only had a short jacket on.
Got my hair done today aswell & did my usual stuff
Days like today make me feel normal as I’m out and about :)
Better days for us ahead Suzy I hope :)
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Yes Michelle….. I really hope so!!
:) :) :)
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Just to say things are still good.
I hope everyone is doing ok? X
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Hi Suzy , glad things are good still :)
I went to my sons in Wolverhampton for weekend and went into town shopping and visited family and my sis in laws grave .. felt good to be out and about .. today I’ve been shopping to asda as we are back home but I feel better than I have been .. still not 100% but I would say I’m 75% ok kinda thing which is bloody brilliant for me .. let’s hope this continues
I still taking each day as it comes but all
Is good for me
I’m so glad things are good for you Suzy :) onwards and upwards
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Wow Michelle, well done you for getting on out and about! It’s huge progress! And even going away!
Amazing! Xxxx
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Hi guys, just checking in. @suzy did your noise sensitivitiy go away with the ADS?
Michell - are you better than 75% now?
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Hey Gwen,
It’s more or less gone yes. I don’t have adverse physical reactions anymore… but I can still pick out certain noises…. Like my husband’s heavy breathing… like Darth Vader… but it’s a minor irritation now, not panic inducing.
I must say, I’m more or less back to my old self now thanks to the venlafaxine.
How are you feeling?
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Thats fantastic! Glad you are feeling better Suzy! And you are still here on the board, helping us, its so nice to hear someone is doing well and there is light at the end of the tunnel. Wonder how Michelle and Helen are doing…
I am actually doing surprisingly well, but i think its because i had a period for the first time in 6 months.. a couple weeks before my flashes went away and my anxiety dropped to low. No more dizziness or nothing! Still had the palpitations though. Anyway it was a bloodbath TMI Lol. It finished a few days ago and now I am waiting to see what happens now.. do all my symptoms come back or do i get another period or what? I cant believe my body found some dusty old eggs back there lol. Anyway I am enjoying the break and waiting to see… will keep you posted x
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Hi all
Glad your doing good suzy & Gwen sounds like your getting a break ..
I’m still doing good .. still not 100% but I’m getting there .. I get out & about more now but still have odd jittery days .. palpitations I get a lot of but I know it’s all to do with these hormones so I don’t threat about them too much.. so on a whole I’m doing better..
I wonder how Helen is also .. I hope she is having more good days
Good to hear that aniexty is low for us
Only thing really with me is these poxy headaches have become a monthly thing always after my period but I’m still cracking on.
I’ve not missed any periods yet Gwen so I have all that to come at somepoint .. lord help me lol
Take it easy every one .. I still pop on and read everything because I like to know how everyone is doing Xx
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I’m glad you’re getting a bit of a break Gwen… it just becomes so unpredictable though when periods start dwindling, and symptoms go up and down… it’s a rollercoaster! Keep us posted!
Michelle, I’m glad to hear you’re still doing well and getting out and about. I used to get headaches every month that would last 3 days no matter what I did or took… awful. I still get them occasionally, but not as much as when I was in peri.
Xxx
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Hi Ladies
I am glad to hear that we all seem to be feeling so much better. I have almost no anxiety now :) still not sleeping 100% but better than before. Seem to be tired a lot, and still get palpitations, but as Michelle says now I know they are not a problem I don’t worry about them so much, thinking maybe testosterone might help or maybe going back to the evoril conti I was on before, the femseven drives me mad as they keep falling off!
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Hi there! Its great to hear everyone is doing so well touch wood antijinx. I think I may have spoken a tad early though as last night and tonight I have felt a touch of anxiety and today I even had 2 flashes so it might be coming back. I hope though that I can handle it this time knowing that I pretty much have the all clear from the doctor. And I have emergency Ativan if I need it. It sounds like the meds are working for you guys too!
@Michelle I used to get bad period headaches (migraines really) too and I found taking 2 ibuprofen with a strong caffeinated coffee and lying down for an hour cleared them up for the day. The combo of coffee and pills seemed to work more than the pills on their own.
@Suzy are you in full menopause now?
@helen glad to hear your anxiety is almost gone, do you know why you arent sleeping well? Can you not get to sleep or keep waking up or?
Xxx
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Hi Gwen
I’m sure you slight anxiety will soon pass, I think it is only natural to have small fluctuations in mood, I am feeling a little down at the moment ( maybe winter blues)but not anxious so can cope with that.
I can get to sleep ok but wake after about 4/5 hours then have broken sleep. This would normally be fine but at the moment I am feeling very tired not sure why.
It’s all so difficult to understand, but feel so much better than a month ago, so hoping I can make further progress.
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Is always the same time you wake up? I was waking up every day around 5am and didnt know why until we got a ring doorbell and turns out my neighbour would go to work around that time every day, and the lights and/or noise would wake me up.
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How is everyone doing?
I’ve been ok… but mum has just been diagnosed with vascular dementia, so I’m pretty down about that. I’m feeling pretty anxious about the future. X
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Hi Suzy
Good to hear you have been ok in yourself
I’m sorry to hear about your mums diagnosis.. I can understand you feeling low & anxious about it
Just take each day as it comes and try not to worry too much about the future
I’ve been ok but this week I’m jittery and feel nervous but I’m due this week so I know it’s all hormones it as to be , but apart from that have had good days and getting out and about more and visiting people blah blah still have blips and wouldn’t say I’m back to 100% yet but so much better than when we was both struggling on here.
Suzy I know you will be ok as you seem a strong lady , try not to think to much about the future .. take each day as it comes sending hugs Xx
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Thanks Michelle xx
I’m glad you’re feeling more like your old self… just go with the blips, you know they will pass.
Xxx