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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: suzysunday on March 03, 2021, 11:42:33 AM
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As I get extreme health anxiety I am really worried I will have short or long term problems if I have the vaccine. Does anyone know of bad side effects besides the fatigue etc. Thanks
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I'm the same Suzy, I had a terrible reaction to the flu jab,hence I'm apprehensive about this vaccine but there's no one answer,some people have no reaction and others have a bad reaction,sadly there's no real way to find out how it will affect us
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What kind of reaction did you have if you don't mind telling. I'm also concerned about long term issues as it's hasn't had long term testing.
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I had Pfizer one last week, no issues so far anyway.
My daughter caught Covid last year, a very mild case but has recently been diagnosed with Long Covid beacuse of breathing issues. my teen son had Covid last year too and couldn't get out of bed for two weeks. It has left him with such high anxiety about getting sick again that he has needed counselling. Seeing them suffer made it easy for me to get jab.
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That sounds awful, especially when so young. I do want to have it but think I've read too much stuff. I hope your children recover Tinkerbell.
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Stop reading?
No needle pain, done in a few moments.
I had a sore arm when I laid down at night. No problems in the day with clothing.
We were both tired. I was extremely thirsty for 36 hours.
Headache in the early hours but that happens sometimes. Could have been AstraZeneca related but nothing that 'nurofen' didn't ease.
What do you fear the most suzysunday? Covid-19 kills. Long Covid is becoming a problem that may well last for years for many of those affected.
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I'm concerned about long term issues because of the vaccine being trialled for less time than usual. Stuff like it altering your dna and also strokes and Bell's Palsy I read about. I know I am reading too much . Plus some things I had been prescribed in the past by gps having side effects like otomize ear drops that gave me tinnitus.
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You are reading rubbish.
What the public don't realise is that when a new medication is announced, it has to go through various tests B4 NICE get hold of it. Also, these vaccines have been developed by many Companies over the World who have dropped their egos.
Usually a lot of time, energy and money is put into researching drugs. Years sometimes as recipes are altered to meet the current requirements.
In the case of C-19 the World got together. There was no need for any of them to sell to the highest bidder, which is what often holds up medications getting into the UK market. If the UK won't pay the going price medications are sold to other countries which makes it seem as though they have taken a while to be declared safe for use.
These vaccines are essential to save Lifes. Some were already in the pipe line as it was known that there was another Pandemic on it's way. So they were 'made', more or less but required tweaking in order to be suitable for C-19. Which means that as variants occur, vaccines can be again tweaked against each mutation.
Also, how long do you know that vaccines are generally trialled for? Years, months, weeks? I have no idea nor am I interested, I leave that to NICE even though I don't always agree to what they allow into the market. It's in the main stream News all the while which makes it seem as medication has 'suddenly' appeared, where in fact scientists are looking for appropriate medications across the board all the while. It's often a race to get the Patents out there too, whereas with these vaccines, the recipes have been shared.
I'm a real sceptic but I didn't hesitate.
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No one in the UK is being forced into having the vaccine at this moment in time. Why not ring your local Pharmacy for a chat? What's the worst that could happen if you do have the injection: against catching C-19 even without symptoms, or getting long-Covid for which there is no cure right now?
[watching Dolly Parton having her jab on BBC News ::) with new words to 'Jolene' ;-) ]
What we don't see are those that leave Intensive Care to undergo weeks of physiotherapy, voice training as people who have been intubated lose the ability to speak; the first muscle to atrophy are the those in the thigh ......... so walking is very difficult once a patient is out of bed which can hold up progress.
Loss of memory. Patients have no awareness of surroundings once they need life saving treatment which is done under sedation. So they worry about where those days/weeks disappear to.
When a patient is bed bound in Hospital under usual conditions, physiotherapists usually concentrate on quadriceps exercises i.e. tightening and relaxing the thigh muscles. It is virtually impossible to do this when someone is under sedation with C-19.
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Thanks for your full answer clkd. I just have some mistrust of such things sometimes. I will take it when I get called but I have a tendency for things to get on top of me. It's good to come on here and know people won't patronize and will give good advice.
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If you don't ask you won't find out.
As a recovering anorexic who dreaded facing food and couldn't go into the kitchen for years++ ......... 24/7, the worry didn't leave, I even dreamt about it. Taking The Pill - such a small tablet, such a palaver 4 me: I would sit with it in the palm of my hand every night ! eventually swallowing it. As I took it for 11 years ::). I'm not as bothered about pills now as I take life-saving ADs and when required 'nurofen'.
I didn't have the annual 'flu vaccine until November because I haven't had 'flu for 35 years. No other reason, not worried about it per se, as I assume that my immune system doesn't allow me to catch it, also, I'm a miserable git and don't mix if I think there's 'anything going about' ???. ::)
Thinking about this, how many medications appear not he shelves that we buy without thinking about how long it took to get into the public domain, as well as new drugs that are offered? This is News Worthy ;-)
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As far as I understand, the vaccine is a live virus and shouldn't cause long term effects? If you get flu like symptoms after the vaccination that is a good sign. It means your body is making the necessary antibodies needed to ward off Covid. Bad news? Well I got a flu shot in November and unfortunately needle went in at wrong angle and now dealing with frozen shoulder😪. I am petrified of needles in the first place so I will wait for herd immunity.
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As I get extreme health anxiety I am really worried I will have short or long term problems if I have the vaccine. Does anyone know of bad side effects besides the fatigue etc. Thanks
I am much more concerned about potential long term effects of Covid. No hesitation about having the jab at all. I did get side effects for a couple of days but fine now.
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Hello suzysunday.
I also understand that having some flu like reactions to the vaccine means that your immune system is responding well and it is infact a good sign though I completely sympathise with your health anxiety.
A scientist I follow ( who was happy to be vaccinated ) explains all the trial data and confirms that all safety and efficacy procedures have been followed. Apparently it is the request for funding and recruiting of trial participants that takes a long while but drug companies and governments pulled out all the stops this time, not surprisingly!
It just goes to show you what can be achieved when it is in everyone's interest to get things done safely and speedily.
Take care.
K.
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Gavi.org - a good read from a Scientist
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These are the live attenuated vaccines used in the UK: (vaccines.gov.uk)
Rotavirus vaccine.
MMR vaccine.
Nasal flu vaccine.
Shingles vaccine.
Chickenpox vaccine.
BCG vaccine (TB vaccine)
Yellow Fever vaccine (travel vaccine only)
Oral typhoid vaccine (travel vaccine only)
17 Jan 2019
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from : who.int
12 January 2021
This article is part of a series of explainers on vaccine development and distribution. Learn more about vaccines – from how they work and how they’re made to ensuring safety and equitable access – in WHO’s Vaccines Explained series.
As of December 2020, there are over 200 vaccine candidates for COVID-19 being developed. Of these, at least 52 candidate vaccines are in human trials. There are several others currently in phase I/II, which will enter phase III in the coming months (for more information on the clinical trial phases, see part three of our Vaccine Explained series).
Why are there so many vaccines in development?
Typically, many vaccine candidates will be evaluated before any are found to be both safe and effective. For example, of all the vaccines that are studied in the lab and laboratory animals, roughly 7 out of every 100 will be considered good enough to move into clinical trials in humans. Of the vaccines that do make it to clinical trials, just one in five is successful.
Having lots of different vaccines in development increases the chances that there will be one or more successful vaccines that will be shown to be safe and efficacious for the intended prioritized populations. ......... [continued on the web-site]
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As I get extreme health anxiety I am really worried I will have short or long term problems if I have the vaccine. Does anyone know of bad side effects besides the fatigue etc. Thanks
I had the AZ one, and they ask you about reactions to past vaccinations. If there is any problem I am sure you would not be pushed into proceeding.
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Thanks for all the replies, though not so good for whatsupwiththis. It's been really helpful. I got my letter yesterday and thought I would make an appointment straightaway before I had time to talk myself out of it, but there is nothing available at my nearest Boots store, only places further afield and I don't drive, so will have to wait a bit.
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Keep checking daily. When DH got his letter he signed in straight away but wasn't eligible ;D until 36 hours later. So we went together to a pharmacy and are booked in there for the 2nd in May.
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Hello :)
I have a history of adverse reactions to vaccinations and a pretty long list of medications. Plus anaphylaxis to Morphine. Consequently I was concerned about having the COVID vaccine, but knew I would despite these reservations.
Safeguards considered for me was having it in a doctor led vaccination centre and having the AstraZeneca vaccine rather than the Pfizer.
The doctor asked what reaction I’d had to the flu vaccine, which was enlarged, painful lymph glands under my arm and in my neck. She then said to expect side effects from the COVID vaccine. She recommended taking the next two days off work, resting and taking paracetamol.
I had nausea within 5 minutes of the injection and a headache within 15 minutes. I then woke up in the night aching all over, so took paracetamol. I developed a raised temperature at lunchtime and my arm was tender and red by bedtime. I woke up the next day with a swollen, painful lymph gland under the arm. I had the injection on a Tuesday and it took until the Sunday to feel better.
All things considered I think the side effects were unpleasant but I’m glad I’ve had it and will be having the second dose.
It is a personal choice, but for me it’s a simple one.
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Hi again Suzy, I took a really bad bout of the flu,was completely off my feet and very ill but whether the vaccine will have the same effects I've no idea,it's ok hearing good news stories but like you,I'm panicking :'(
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Speak to your practitioners B4 you make your appts.? Make sure that you are given a time where you can sit after the vaccination, we were told simply not to drive for 15-20 mins..
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I had the AZ jab on Sunday; started to get flu like symptoms 8 hours later that lasted about 18 hours. Paracetamol and a day in bed sorted it out. Apparently, this reaction means good antibodies. Who knows, l was just grateful to get the vaccine.
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I'm concerned about long term issues because of the vaccine being trialled for less time than usual. Stuff like it altering your dna and also strokes and Bell's Palsy I read about. I know I am reading too much . Plus some things I had been prescribed in the past by gps having side effects like otomize ear drops that gave me tinnitus.
There are some quack scientists saying the most dangerous things on social media, but all I can say is listen to scientific consensus on this and fact check everything!. The vaccine does not alter DNA and Bells Palsy is rare - severe adverse events in general or rare. When it comes to vaccines, the benefits outweigh the risks everytime, and if we are going by the vaccines we've had pre pandemic - none have caused long term symtpoms. It's a choice between do I want to contract the disease and possibly die or suffer with damaged lungs and heart or take the vaccine. We have to look at risks in perspective and asses them. If anything, you'll a bit crappy and under the weather for a few days and worst case scenario ( if you have a history of severe allergies to medication/food) your medical provider will be ready to deal with it ASAP no problems. You'd be in safe hands.
Personally, I think I'll end up crying when I get the vaccine from sheer happiness - can't wait to get out of this neverending nightmare.
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I had mine this evening.
I couldn’t confirm my name as I was so emotional. We have been shielding for a year now and it just seems like a huge weight beginning to lift.
I may be off colour tomorrow but I will still be relieved.
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:medal:
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And a :medal: from me too. Yesterday I had to have an engineer here to update the intruder alarm, and it was nice to think that it was 4 weeks since I'd had my Pfizer vaccine, so it will have kicked in by now. I suppose the possibility of the vaccinated being able to infect others might still be there (in spite of taking all the usual precautions) but at least I felt relatively safe.
JP x
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I had the vaccination, AZ, and a completely horrible response - knocked me off my feet for three weeks. But I also have a disabled son, and I don't want him to die. I'm really grateful to people who have huge reservations and health anxiety (believe me, I know how you feel) but who still go ahead to protect themselves and others. It's a huge step for some folks. Thank you to everyone who's making sure my son can see his 28th birthday.
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I was booked to have my vaccine tomorrow but its now been rescheduled until next Sunday as they have a supply problem.
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I had my AZ vaccination yesterday at 3 pm. No issues so far. 🖕
Honestly I'm so happy to have had it.
Will update if any adverse effects.
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I had the AZ 2.5 weeks ago. I felt fluey and achey for 24 hours. Took paracetamol and was fine. Soon be 3 weeks :) . I would not hesitate, As stated on this thread the risks from Covid and long Covid far outweigh the potentially extremely rare serious problems from this vaccine. Think how many millions have already been vaccinated in UK. Yes we owe it to everyone else to get the jab so that we can outwit this beast and help to prevent new variants from developing ( but keeping case numbers low) - in this country at least.
Hurdity x
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That's what I keep telling myself Hurdity,look at all the REALLY old brave folks that have had it and here's me cowering like a child :'(
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Would you like me to hold your hand jaypo?
What's the worst that could happen? Any worries, speak to the Pharmacy for clarification?
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Yes please :'(
Not frightened of needles or anything but just the thought of getting as poorly as I did with the flu jab
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It's a worry when 1 has been affected. Do ring the Pharmacist and chat? You can then tell the vaccination hub B4 you book the appt..
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Well I slept till 3am, woke up with slight headache, took paracetamol, got up at 7, walked the dogs, had breakfast, took 2 more paracetamol, all seems ok at the moment, I feel a little muzzy maybe.
One thing I did do was to drink plenty yesterday before vaccine and again last night, I’m continuing to do so today.
I might have got away with little effect, tho I realise some people’s side affects kick in after 24 hours.
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I was pretty similar milly - woke in the early hours with what may have been a jab-related headache which 'nurofen' sorted .........
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Yes please :'(
Not frightened of needles or anything but just the thought of getting as poorly as I did with the flu jab
Try not to worry jaypo, easier said than done, i know. My DH had the same concerns because he had had a previous crappy reaction to the flu jab, but he was absolutely fine. Believe me, this is a man that sneezes a couple of times and proclaims to have man flu, at least twice a year, so if he felt bad my gawd, i would have known about it. He had the AZ one back in January due to his work and gets his 2 one in April.
I managed to book mine this morning online, so will be getting it, not next week, but the week after.
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Thank you Barnacle :)
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Me and OT half had the AZ jab on Saturday. It was at a vaccination centre and was absolutely packed and took about an hour and 3/4, a small price to pay. I had a slightly sore harm but was fine otherwise. My OH felt a bit under the weather for a day, but was fine by Monday. My sister and brother had the same jab and had no side effcets at all. Most people I know have had the pfizer jab and none of them had any symptoms. It seems to be the luck of the draw, but it seems many more people don't experience side effects than get them.