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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: shrosphirelass on January 29, 2021, 12:19:41 PM
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Just looking for reassurance. I had a root canal treatment yesterday and it has left me in a lot of pain. I was in pain before with toothache. When I got back from the dentist and the anaesthetic wore off it was agony, despite being on pain killers. I put some numbing gel and that did help. It isn't quite as bad today, but still hurts alot so had to have pills and numbing gel. I couldn't sleep due to the discomfort and it is extrememly painful if I inadvertently bite / touch it. I just want to check if this is normal? I have had root canals before and I don't remember them hurting like this. The dentist said I would be sore for a few days, but this is more than soreness!
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Ring him back! He may give a prescription for antibiotics in case there is infection. Jaw/tooth pain is the pits!
MayBe too ring a pharmacist to see how much and which combination you can take pain relief. When do you return?
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Sometime root canal treatment can temporarily increase the inflammation.
Was the dentist able to drain down any infection during the treatment??
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I had a similar experience 2 years ago , a toothache that would not go away. Had a crown fitted but it got worse. Spent nearly a year on antibiotics, finally gave in after standing in the dentist reception in tears and had a root canal. Three visits later I was in so much pain that I was almost suicidal. Eventually had the tooth taken out, but the pain continued. (£2000 spent so far). I have now been to a new dentist and diagnosed with bruxism. Had a tooth guard made to stop me from breaking any more teeth. I do not think my tooth ever had the chance to recover from the surgery due to the constant stress in my jaw and biting down on it all night long. You might have an underlying infection in the gum x good luck, it sent me crackers. I lost over a stone in weight during this time, finally managed to put the weight back on xx
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I think I have to give it time to settle before I contact them CLKD. It is feeling a bit better but no where near right yet. I'm not sleeping well, mainly due to being uncomfortable as I normally sleep on my side and the pressure of this seems to aggravate it. Another concern I have is that I am still waking up with a foul taste in my mouth which I thought should resolve with the root canal treatment?
Shadygale, I'm guessing the dentist cleaned out the infection. He ceratinly put some kind of bleach material in the cavity. He said when I go back in two weeks he will clean it out again. I'm guessing he is hoping what he has done will sort out the infection, but maybe this takes time, explaining the continuing horrible taste.
mandss, are you pain free now? It sounds horrendous. The dentist did suggest TGN to me but I don't think it's that.
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I've had 2 and have had nothing like the pain you're getting. They wouldn't do mine until the infection had gone (by antibiotics). Has he actually done the root canal or just put a temporary filling in? Just confused when he says he'll clean it out in a fortnight because if he's done the permanent filling he can't get at it to clean it. I would contact him on Monday if it's still intolerable, I don't think the pain you have is normal.
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I think I have to give it time to settle before I contact them CLKD. It is feeling a bit better but no where near right yet. I'm not sleeping well, mainly due to being uncomfortable as I normally sleep on my side and the pressure of this seems to aggravate it. Another concern I have is that I am still waking up with a foul taste in my mouth which I thought should resolve with the root canal treatment?
Shadygale, I'm guessing the dentist cleaned out the infection. He ceratinly put some kind of bleach material in the cavity. He said when I go back in two weeks he will clean it out again. I'm guessing he is hoping what he has done will sort out the infection, but maybe this takes time, explaining the continuing horrible taste.
mandss, are you pain free now? It sounds horrendous. The dentist did suggest TGN to me but I don't think it's that.
It sounds like you have had quite a bad infection. He will wash it out again and you may have to wait for a third appointment to get the perminant filling. What you have now will be a temporary one containing an anti inflammatory and an antibiotic. Unfortunately oral ABs are often not effective for tooth abscess. Not enough blood flow I think.
For pain relief I have found two nurofen plus one cocodimol to work the best.
Hope you feel better soon
Shadyglade
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This pain doesn't seem normal. :-\. The nasty taste may well be infection draining ........ were you advised regular boiled salted water, cooled, as a mouth wash?
Your Dentist could have given you a printed treatment plan and added to that the treatment carried out. Then when you got home you weren't as confused about what might have been done. I would give the Surgery a ring on Monday 2 ask exactly what has happened and why the wait of 2 weeks. At the very least the dentist should be ringing to C how U R?
My dentist told me that no surgery should be undertaken B4 the infection had been controlled or it could spread round the body to the heart :o. When I had the 1st implant treatment I had 2 weeks ABs prior to the tooth being removed, in case. Fortunately I was OK.
I was warned about some type of pain which can't be controlled, it had a complicated name. That was when I wanted a cap removed and the tooth taken out due to pain. Can't remember what the expression was :-\. I can't take co-codamol, it makes me really ill.
How is it now?
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Hi Shropshirelass
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/root-canal-treatment/
The above NHS link gives upto date information about root canal treatment.
Please note the section on antibiotics, where it says
'are not effective in treating root canal infections'.
Shadyglade
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I think I have to give it time to settle before I contact them CLKD. It is feeling a bit better but no where near right yet. I'm not sleeping well, mainly due to being uncomfortable as I normally sleep on my side and the pressure of this seems to aggravate it. Another concern I have is that I am still waking up with a foul taste in my mouth which I thought should resolve with the root canal treatment?
Shadygale, I'm guessing the dentist cleaned out the infection. He ceratinly put some kind of bleach material in the cavity. He said when I go back in two weeks he will clean it out again. I'm guessing he is hoping what he has done will sort out the infection, but maybe this takes time, explaining the continuing horrible taste.
mandss, are you pain free now? It sounds horrendous. The dentist did suggest TGN to me but I don't think it's that.
I don’t think you should be suffering like this. I’ve had root fillings and although uncomfortable , they’re much better the following day.
I would ring for some antibiotics. Even if it means ringing out of hours .
The unpleasant taste is a sure sign of infection.
Hope you feel better soon , salty rinses will help and strong pain relief. x
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I wince when I read the title of the thread ::). Sometimes Dentists will pack the affected area with anti-biotic padding which feels really long when removed :o.
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Oh I know, I can’t bear the thought of anyone suffering unnecessarily.
It’s amazing the length of the tooth when they’ve removed the pulp and gone into the root . I’m pretty sure the nerves are removed too .
Poor girl, wish the dentist was open. :-\ xx
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I wince when I read the title of the thread ::). Sometimes Dentists will pack the affected area with anti-biotic padding which feels really long when removed :o.
Not anymore. That procedure is not allowed for now. The antiseptic was basically creosote,
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No I don't think the dentist put a wad of anything in. He used lots of thin needles (or thats what they looked like) to clean out the roots and then put a solution of something like chlorine in. I know that from the smell and from the fact it burnt the back of my throat as some trickled down. Pain has ramped up this afternoon I'm hoping its because I got a bit brave and had something a bit chewier for lunch. Back to the numbing stuff and soup.
Sorry, I know I am being self pitying and going on, but I am so fed up with it and worried the end is not in sight.
Thanks all for your support, it is appreciated.
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What pain relief are you using??
Probably best to stick to softish food and eat on the other side.
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Back to back pain killers, alternating ibprofen and paracetamol. The ibprofen works the best and also using oragel which numbs it and makes it more bearable. I am only eating on the one side but wondered if the jaw movement had aggravated it, hoping it was that.
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Hard to eat on one side, I forget quite easily.
4 me it's not knowing if/when the pain will ease ........ :hug:
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Back to back pain killers, alternating ibprofen and paracetamol. The ibprofen works the best and also using oragel which numbs it and makes it more bearable. I am only eating on the one side but wondered if the jaw movement had aggravated it, hoping it was that.
You can take the paracetamol and ibprophin together. You may get some sleep then.
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Did U sleep?
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Back to back pain killers, alternating ibprofen and paracetamol. The ibprofen works the best and also using oragel which numbs it and makes it more bearable. I am only eating on the one side but wondered if the jaw movement had aggravated it, hoping it was that.
I would ring tomorrow and tell them you’re in unbearable pain. I’m
sure the dentist will want to see you. Take care xx
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Hi shropshirelass,
Hope you are getting some relief, there's nothing I would add to what the others have said other than you have my sympathy. I have had x2 root canal treatments and New Years week ended up with an emergency appointment and given oral antibiotics for an infection in one of the treated areas, my regular dentist to follow me up with long term plan for this tooth. The pain is horrendous. Let us know how you get on. x
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I had an awful evening and couldn't sleep. I have been feeling a bit better since being up. Im just hoping its the inflammation peaking (Mr Google said 48-72 hours the pain could peak!), but Ive still got that foul taste after lying down. I'll ring the dentist tomorrow unless its a lot better, but I'm still hoping as I really don't want it opening up again unless its absolutely necessary.
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GOOGLE :poke2: don't know much unless you went to an NHS site?
Get those feet up and rest. Doze.
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I really sympathise Shropshireless. My OH had root canal before Xmas and was in agony after, had to have antibiotics etc but it did settle. He had another one two weeks ago and has been again in loads of pain, acute pain despite painkillers. I felt really sorry for him. He had the tooth out on Friday.
Hopefully yours will settle they usually do so the dentist told him x
Best wishes x
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Thanks Groundhog. Was your husbands second root canal a different tooth, or recurring trouble from the same one? How awful for him. My dentist suspects I will also need another root canal on the next tooth but I'm hoping he's wrong. I am feeling slightly better today so haven't rung the dentist yet. Hopefully it is on the mend and I am just a wimp!
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Wimp you are not ! I think toothache is one of the worst pains ever!
It was a different tooth. This was a top incisor that he’s had removed, the previous one was a bottom tooth. He has had a nightmare apart from the metronizadole antibiotics making him unwell ( plus no alcohol lol ) he’s been very miserable.
Tooth has gone and he’s gone to work today hallelujah !
Really hope this settles, they usually do but it takes a few days of torture - you have my absolUte sympathy 🙏
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...... and mine! :foryou:
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Thanks both. I didn't have that antibiotic as anything other than penicillan makes me sick. That's probably why the infection didn't clear as well as he hoped. Also glasses of wine have been the only thing to buy me a few hours sleep! Glad your OH is finally better Groundhog, I know it feels like it is never ending torture.
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Use what ever it takes?
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Thanks both. I didn't have that antibiotic as anything other than penicillan makes me sick. That's probably why the infection didn't clear as well as he hoped. Also glasses of wine have been the only thing to buy me a few hours sleep! Glad your OH is finally better Groundhog, I know it feels like it is never ending torture.
Oh bless you, a course of Amoxicillin would probably clear it up without it being opened up again.
Take care and please don’t suffer xx
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Back to the dentist, pain less acute but constant nagging causing me to feel rough and affecting sleep. Prescribed 3rd set of antibi's , hopefully this finishes the infection off. Only another 12 days until the second root canal seesion!
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Tnx for the update.
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Hope pain is less now and it will be wonderful to get it all over and done with :) Hope Mr. S is being comforting and kind :bighug: :love:
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I am in a lot of pain, thanks for asking. I really thought there was something seriously wrong with me in the night. The pain was acute and radiated up to my temple. Was really scared but not so bad when I got up. I'm going to ring the dentist yet again tomorrow and if I don't get anywhere am going to see if I can make an appointment somewhere else, can't go on like this.
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I really think this needs sorting out. When OH was young and foolish he had an abscess and didn't go to a dentist until he nearly passed out from the pain. Dentist pointed out how stupid he'd been and said if it's in the upper jaw the puss can travel up and into the brain. Granted it might have had trouble finding any brain cells but it's dangerous if it does.
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I am in a lot of pain, thanks for asking. I really thought there was something seriously wrong with me in the night. The pain was acute and radiated up to my temple. Was really scared but not so bad when I got up. I'm going to ring the dentist yet again tomorrow and if I don't get anywhere am going to see if I can make an appointment somewhere else, can't go on like this.
Oh poor thing , definately phone again doesn’t sound good. I told you my husband had his out after his failed root canal, he’s so happy lol said worst pain he’s ever had in his life !
Make than phone call x
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So I went to see the specialist root canal dentist today. I was in there 1hr 20 minutes and he was very thorough. However, he could not come up with a definitatve answer. The xrays didn't show anything obvious. After all the tests he said he thought it was most likely the tooth next to the one that had been root canalled. It could have a crack but its not showing up. He said that the root canal tooth could possibily have a 4th root that was missed but he thinks thats unlikely to cause this level of pain. He also suggested there could possibily be a sinus issue. Finally, he said it was possibile that it was trigeminal neuralgia but he thought it was the least likely possibility as I have no trigger points, but it could be a non typical presentation. Anyway no answers. He's sending me to get a cone scan which may or may not provide more information and he recommeded I get in touch with the doctor and try amatryptilin whilst investigations are ongoing.
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You're a mystery! When will you get the amytriptaline, being it's the weekend? It's an anti-epileptic drug which supposedly eases spasms.
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That’s good to be seen before the weekend. Amitriptyline works like a dream for a friend of ours (who incidentally went through the same scenario which you’ve been through, and I did too).I had amitriptyline to ease my Degenerative disc disease/spinal problems and poor sleep, worked very well. It’s all being attended to now Shropshirelass which is as much as you can do. Take care and be kind to yourself especially right now.
Padine x
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I feel your pain, as i quoted before I had a similar experience that went of for a year. Even after the tooth had been taken out....it could be TMJ or bruxism that is causing the pain. Look them both up. I am now getting treatment for both and the jaw pain is less. It took 3 different dentists to find out what was causing the pain. Like you nothing showed up on x rays. good luck hun x
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Any improvement?
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Im really struggling with the pain, thanks for asking. Still waiting to hear about my CT scan. Rang the dentist today and apparently the referral hasn't even been sent yet. I have a telephone drs appointment tomorrow so maybe they will be able to suggest something.
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Hello Dear SL (my headache "buddy")
You have my complete sympathy, dental pain is the worst thing. I suffered for several years with intermittent abscesses due to a grumbly old root canal treatment. When my original dentist completed it, he said it'll probably last you 10-15 years. Well I made it to 20 or thereabouts. A couple of times a year it would niggle me and each time the dentist would say it was probably going to need extracting but through fear I kept putting it off. I saw a specialist who advised I would probably need an apicoectomy (where they slice the gum open to get to the nerve) but the £600+ price tag put me off at the time because I couldn't afford it, especially when they could not guarantee it would even work and not need extracting anyway.
I ended up having it removed after a really nasty infection and to be honest it was a doddle and a relief to see the blimmin back of it!
One thing they did suggest when I needed pain relief was soluble aspirin (strangely enough it works really well on my headaches as well) and to hold the dissolved solution in my mouth swilling it around the tooth for a bit before swallowing as normal. With an abscess they also said it was likely to throb more if I was laying flat, so the little sleep I got I was propped up a bit in bed. I always felt better cupping my hand round the sore side, so maybe the gentlest of heat? Have you got a microwaveable/wheat pad or anything similar you can just hold against your jaw?
Really hope you start feeling better soon x
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That is disgusting that the referral hasn't been sent, after all we have e-mail >:(. Or pick up the 'phone and discuss?
Do you know who you are being referred to, mayB ring directly and explain how much pain you are in? Tell them you are now suicidal due to lack of sleep and constant pain.
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Still waitinmg, no I don't know who the referral is to so Im pretty powerless and feeling quite pathetic in any case CKLD.
Hi Mogster, thanks. I'll try the aspirin. I did try it for my headaches but it didn't help. How are your headaches? My headaches are much improved. Going on to a conti regime has made a real difference and I still do my neck exercises every day in case that helps.
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I'm not surprised you feel off colour, I wouldn't say pathetic, you are in intense pain! I'm going to suggest that your GP rings your Dentist and asks what the hold up might be! Do you have someone who could push your requirements! When we feel ill we can soon become dispondent.
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Did U try the soluble Aspirin?
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I think the soluble asprin doesn't work that well because the pain is more internal, from deep within my tooth (teeth) going all up my jaw and ear. I have an appt for a scan on Tuesday and an appt at the dentist to have both teeth opened up so he look at them with a microscope and see if there are any fractures on Wednesday. The scan wont be back by then so I don't know what the point of it is really and it's miles away. It will be two trains and a two hour journey. I don't even go to the shops let alone on a train! I shouldn't complain at least Ive got the appt.
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Is the dentist aware of the previous days' appt.? I think you'll be OK germ wise if you take plenty of hand wash, wear a mask and mayBe gloves? It's a long while to wait whilst in pain!
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How have you got on over the weekend?
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I actually felt a bit better, still there, but not as intense. I started a steroid nasal spray last Thursday (clutching at straws in case it is sinus based) Probably just a coincidence. I had my scan today and have an appt with the dentist tomorrow so Im hoping a diagnosis will be made and treatment planned. Thanks for asking.
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I actually felt a bit better, still there, but not as intense. I started a steroid nasal spray last Thursday (clutching at straws in case it is sinus based) Probably just a coincidence. I had my scan today and have an appt with the dentist tomorrow so Im hoping a diagnosis will be made and treatment planned. Thanks for asking.
It's funny you should mention your sinuses.
I suffered with sinusitis on the right side for 15 years. Then an old root canal failed and the tooth had to be removed. Almost immediately my sinusitis was relieved. My dentist said that sinuses can cause tooth pain and visa versa.
Perhaps that's the solution.