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Title: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 01, 2021, 02:02:09 PM
Pity that the Army didn't spray cold water on all those who decided to gather at the various vantage points across the UK!  Which bit of 'stay at home' don't the public get?

£10,000 fines - who pays that?  All those attending illegal gatherings put into the kitty knowing that the Police will break up the party and what a waste of essential services  :'(.

I don't understand people being so selfish  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: C.C. on January 01, 2021, 02:22:25 PM
I know what you mean.  Yesterday the new case count was over 3000.  It will no doubt climb once the holiday numbers are counted.  I am sure people were partying it up last night.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 01, 2021, 02:45:25 PM
And in Oz over the weekend.  On a beach can't remember the name  :'( and then sending photos across the World.  Oh how clever we are to meet up with friends.  NOT  >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 01, 2021, 03:23:13 PM
'cos there is more sheep than people there?  Population either in Auckland or spread across the countryside in small numbers? 

Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: sheila99 on January 01, 2021, 05:04:23 PM
So is this a new thread or the original one that disappeared?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 01, 2021, 05:37:59 PM
I crept in ........

 :-X
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: sheila99 on January 01, 2021, 05:43:22 PM
Any sharks circling?  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 01, 2021, 06:06:08 PM
 ;D  probably   :whist:

Why can't people accept the restraints in order to keep others safe  :-\.  Or if they see others in a crowd, even if they have planned to be out and about, why don't they go home ............

I despair.  I really do.  Not many have knowledge about working in ICU or worse - even if they see snippets on TV.  All the machinery beeping is enough to drive you mad until you get used to all the bleeps etc..  And having to pump air into covid patients is hard work ......
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Katejo on January 01, 2021, 06:36:33 PM

My Dad was in hospital over Christmas due to a chest infection. He was almost ready to return home but they kept him in due to weakness and fatigue. He had tested negative for Covid on admission but, 2 days ago, we heard that he had tested positive so they have had to keep him in. No actual symptoms then but we haven't had any update and it is impossible to get through on the phone.  :(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 01, 2021, 08:42:49 PM
Try ringing after 10.15 p.m.  I got the Nurse on the meds trolley the other night, she couldn't tell me anything other than that Mum had taken her meds ........  ::). 

Could your Dad have been carrying the virus?  I don't know how long it takes from catching it to symptoms appearing and how long it takes to pass it on.  Mum tested positive in the care home  :-\ B4 she fell, admitted: has had another test this week but I can't find out the result - she's on a C Ward but progressing. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Katejo on January 01, 2021, 11:11:13 PM
Try ringing after 10.15 p.m.  I got the Nurse on the meds trolley the other night, she couldn't tell me anything other than that Mum had taken her meds ........  ::). 

Could your Dad have been carrying the virus?  I don't know how long it takes from catching it to symptoms appearing and how long it takes to pass it on.  Mum tested positive in the care home  :-\ B4 she fell, admitted: has had another test this week but I can't find out the result - she's on a C Ward but progressing.
  Unlikely because he had been alone at home for months. Unless 1 if the visiting carers passed it on to him.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 02, 2021, 09:39:51 AM
If he had a chest infection was it possible that the Virus was brewing?  How is he now?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Katejo on January 02, 2021, 09:44:49 AM
If he had a chest infection was it possible that the Virus was brewing?  How is he now?
   I don't know yet. Still can't get through on the phone.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 02, 2021, 10:59:42 AM
? try this evening ? or B4 6.30 a.m. prior to change over?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 02, 2021, 12:28:53 PM
Time to begin sacking people?

Tottenham have criticised three of their players for breaching coronavirus rules by attending a party over Christmas.

A picture on social media shows Argentina forward Erik Lamela, Spain defender Sergio Reguilon and Argentina midfielder Giovani lo Celso at a party.

"We are extremely disappointed," Tottenham said in a statement.

West Ham have also reminded Argentina forward Manuel Lanzini, who also attended, of his responsibilities.



An American Quarter-back, seen at a party without wearing a mask, has been fined a lot of $ and released from his Contact yesterday!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Katejo on January 02, 2021, 03:45:49 PM
? try this evening ? or B4 6.30 a.m. prior to change over?

I did manage to get through later in the morning. Spoke to the nurse responsible for him. Reception was poor so we didn't get to say much but he hasn't shown symptoms yet/needed any oxygen.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Shadyglade on January 02, 2021, 04:07:30 PM
Could be a false positive then Katejo. 

The PCR test has an increasingly poor reputation and some hospital's are no longer using them to test staff.  Too many self isolating after false positive results.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 02, 2021, 04:17:54 PM
That's good Katejo ..........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Katejo on January 02, 2021, 06:33:01 PM
Could be a false positive then Katejo. 

The PCR test has an increasingly poor reputation and some hospital's are no longer using them to test staff.  Too many self isolating after false positive results.
  I hope so but I don't know which type of test was used.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 02, 2021, 08:08:42 PM
It is about the test being taken correctly, how fast it is processed and if there is a hold-up in the Lab.  :-\.  There are certain tests that care homes no longer use due to their unreliability.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Katejo on January 02, 2021, 09:05:40 PM
It is about the test being taken correctly, how fast it is processed and if there is a hold-up in the Lab.  :-\.  There are certain tests that care homes no longer use due to their unreliability.
   My Dad's tests weren't done in a care home. The 1st one (negative) was done on admission to hospital from home with a chest infection. The 2nd was done about 10 days later and was positive.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 03, 2021, 12:54:51 PM
I don't know what the incubation period is of C-19.  Have read anything from 5 days to 24 days ........

How is your Dad now?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 03, 2021, 04:41:29 PM
Manchester City say they are disappointed after defender Benjamin Mendy breached Covid-19 rules by hosting a New Year's Eve party.

A spokesperson for the France international said the 26-year-old held a dinner party with guests from outside his household.

The mixing of households indoors is banned under the UK government's tier four restrictions.

City said they would conduct an internal investigation.



Shouldn't this be a Police matter? 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: VikkiP on January 03, 2021, 08:26:52 PM
I would say no, police have better things to stop happening. I suppose some kind of Inspector, like Health and Safety, to simply get the names and video evidence, then it can be shipped straight to lawyer/solicitor for processing of payment?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 04, 2021, 01:11:33 PM
Has anyone tried the ribbon test?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 04, 2021, 01:17:59 PM
So Boris decides to have a walk round a Hospital?  Like the Staff have time to accommodate security people, Boris, camera men etc.? all mayB carrying the virus into the place  :-\.  Why can't he say what he has to impart from his home?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 04, 2021, 06:34:38 PM
the PM is going to speak at 8.00 p.m.  :-X
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: jillydoll on January 04, 2021, 06:49:28 PM
Think they're worried about a new strain which has been found in South Africa.
They think the vaccine won't help with that one. It needs tweaking apparently. 🤷‍♀️
Scotland has already locked down from midnight tonight.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Taz2 on January 04, 2021, 06:53:56 PM
Scotlands lockdown seems to be the same as our Tier 4 restrictions. Work from home if you can. Only  meet with one other person outside etc etc. I thought it would be more like our original one in March?

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: jillydoll on January 04, 2021, 06:56:19 PM
Yes, so did I. 🤷‍♀️
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 04, 2021, 07:35:11 PM
Lockdown as we did in March: across the whole of the UK : might be better, we will know where we are then!  No meeting with anyone?  Shopping when necessary?  Exercise away from others.

There will be mutations. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Taz2 on January 04, 2021, 08:44:09 PM
It seems the only thing that's changed for us in Tier 4 is that schools have closed. I know we have to think of the economy but I really thought it would be lockdown as in March.

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: milly on January 04, 2021, 08:50:58 PM
It is now!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: daska86 on January 04, 2021, 09:15:26 PM
Thought we could still have support bubbles
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Shadyglade on January 04, 2021, 09:21:42 PM
Thought we could still have support bubbles

Yes you can.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Katejo on January 04, 2021, 09:47:04 PM
It seems the only thing that's changed for us in Tier 4 is that schools have closed. I know we have to think of the economy but I really thought it would be lockdown as in March.

Taz x
The uni library where I work is closed(except remote services) all this week and I think it will now be extended further.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 05, 2021, 09:36:40 AM
This lockdown is because the NHS is overwhelmed. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Padine on January 05, 2021, 11:52:54 AM
If they had decided to vaccinate teachers during the Christmas hols, (Heads of Dept certainly, as they are paid to teach more) the unions may have been happier to keep in-school education going. Employers will remember the senior pupils and their education of 2020/21, and these poor young people will be disadvantaged for their future prospects, through absolutely no fault of their own.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 05, 2021, 12:06:57 PM
There weren't enough vaccines nor staff to administer the jabs.  Many surgeries do not have the storage facilities to keep the Pfizer vaccines cold enough.  There's a list of priorities on the web this morning but it seems double Dutch to me  ::)

If necessary pupils can do Open University Courses of their choice ;-).  It may leave them a little behind but with many industries closing there will be a job shortage for a while and time to pursue what they actually want to study.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 05, 2021, 11:15:59 PM
The problem with the NHS being overwhelmed may impact on those who have urgent conditions i.e. a burst appendix, heart condition: so do stay at home as much as possible to prevent the added problems of RTAs, falling off a cycle or slipping on any ice.  Beds and personnel are short in most specialities as they have been seconded to other Wards to assist with the virus situation. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 07, 2021, 03:00:47 PM
Did anyone try the ribbon test?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Cassie on January 07, 2021, 03:09:08 PM
What is the ribbon test. ???
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 07, 2021, 04:23:32 PM
Well - lots of adverts around C.mas was that we should have our windows open in order to blow the virus to the outside.  But to my knowledge air blows into the house? so I held two ribbons at our bathroom window.  Yep.  Breeze blew them inside  ::).  So that worked then!  Either that or they want our elderly to freeze to death .........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Dougalina on January 07, 2021, 06:19:51 PM
I think you have to have two windows to create a through breeze/draught .

Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 07, 2021, 06:46:27 PM
Hi!  I had 3 open: the bathroom one, landing and our bedroom .........  ::)

Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Lyncola on January 08, 2021, 08:52:16 AM
I’m from Queensland Australia and in south east of Queensland one cleaner (she cleans in a hotel for Australians coming back from overseas) has got the UK coronavirus.

One person, and the Queensland government has put 5 cities into lockdown for three days. And will make a decision if we need longer.

I’m proud of Queensland for doing that, they are hoping by going hard quickly we can avoid a 30 day lockdown.

To all the lovely ladies in the UK and all over the world, I’m sending you my love and a big hug 🤗
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 08, 2021, 09:56:02 AM
It is not 'ours'  ::).  It is being found across the World as well as yet another variant in S Africa.  We should close our borders for the time that the UK is in lockdown!

Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Dougalina on January 08, 2021, 11:26:54 AM
Hi lynocola

Sounds like your government is doing a much better job than ours!  This UK variant does seem to be much more transmissable. My sister and her husband have it, and their daughter has been in hospital with it.

They were all very careful too.

Take care

D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 08, 2021, 11:40:33 AM
That's awful Dougaline  :'(. 

I was told that a positive test is likely to remain in the blood stream for up to 90 days after the person begins to feel well. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Taz2 on January 08, 2021, 01:25:47 PM
My son and his work colleagues all tested negative 14 days after their positive tests so they cleared it faster than some.

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Uptick on January 08, 2021, 03:00:17 PM
Interesting article (and comments) about masks https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/940254?src=wnl_tp10n_210108_mscpedit&uac=123762HN&impID=2946232&faf=1#vp_1
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 08, 2021, 04:13:28 PM
All these experiences should be recorded for future reference. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: daska86 on January 08, 2021, 08:45:01 PM
So fed up with it all ,  our area has cases rising like mad, just trying to stay in as much as possible
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 08, 2021, 10:06:56 PM
It's into the communities now.  Sadly we have to learn to live with it as it is no longer possible to avoid it.  Lots of hand washing is important !
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Taz2 on January 09, 2021, 01:00:12 AM
I'm just staying in as much as possible but am lucky in that I'm retired though my partner still has to go in to work.

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Lyncola on January 09, 2021, 04:00:23 AM
Why did I called it the UK Coronavirus, because that’s what the media calls that strain in Australia.
Nothing personal
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Shadyglade on January 09, 2021, 08:15:57 AM
I'm just staying in as much as possible but am lucky in that I'm retired though my partner still has to go in to work.

Taz x

We haven't got much choice though have we Taz.  The supermarket and a walk is all that's available.

If I survive the epidemic I'll probably be totally nuts 🤪.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Shadyglade on January 09, 2021, 08:25:22 AM
Why did I called it the UK Coronavirus, because that’s what the media calls that strain in Australia.
Nothing personal

There is actually no evidence that it originated in the UK.  It is thought to have come in via returning holiday makers.

The reason it's been identified here is that we have a lab which is able to identify virus variants more effectively, than those available in other countries.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Taz2 on January 09, 2021, 09:45:26 AM
I'm just staying in as much as possible but am lucky in that I'm retired though my partner still has to go in to work.

Taz x

We haven't got much choice though have we Taz.  The supermarket and a walk is all that's available.

If I survive the epidemic I'll probably be totally nuts 🤪.

Me too though I was apparently nuts to start with!  ;D I've not been in a supermarket since March. All online shopping since then. I save the walk till later in the day as, if I go early, I feel trapped then!

Taz x  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Lyncola on January 10, 2021, 04:35:13 AM
My Aunty posted on Facebook today, (she from Taunton) that she thought it was terrible that people were walking around outside without face mask 😷.

Is that normal for England, I can’t believe with how bad your country is that people would be walking around without face mask. I know a lot of people would be doing the right thing.

I’m currently in a three day lockdown due to one cleaner having the UK coronavirus (that’s what the media call it in Australia, we have top labs here too and they can see if the strain has come from South Africa or UK etc.)
We are only allowed outside for 5 reasons and you musk wear a mask 😷.
If the police catch you it’s a $200 or if you catch you out of your lockdown area it over $1300 fine.

Is there fines over there for doing the wrong thing?
By the way I’m on day two and we have had no other cases yet, on Monday at 6pm they will decide what the next step will be?

Big hug from Australia, I know you guys are doing it hard over there at the moment.
 :bighug:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Shadyglade on January 10, 2021, 08:22:29 AM
You misunderstood me Lyncola.  I am sure you have top labs in Australia.

What I was saying was that the UK has a lab that is world renowned for being able to isolate virus strains, to a greater degree than is the norm.  That is why this strain was first detected here and not elsewhere.

As for wearing masks it is not required outside here.  I understand that this is the case also in mant parts of Australia and depends on local infection rates.   There is no scientific evidence to show that masks outside are beneficial and it would be very difficult to impose it here anyway.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: littleminnie on January 10, 2021, 09:37:30 AM
Yes only the UK and one other country (I think it’s a Scandinavian country) have these special labs and are therefore able to detect different strains so quickly.  The UK are in the middle of winter so are more susceptible to more cases. Other countries are in the middle of summer so it isn’t spreading as quickly as more people are outside.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 10, 2021, 10:00:29 AM
It's spreading rapidly.  What we don't get told is how many people recover and leave hospital  :-\.  We don't know how many people are being treated at home.  What we get is daily deaths and hospital admission rates as well as Ambulance personnel queuing for hours++ because there are no beds.  = hold ups for those in need who have fallen etc..  :'(

Our Labs were ahead of the game having followed SARs and vaccines were already being prepared, they were also ready for mutations so can tweak the current vaccines accordingly.  Then the UK ran out of phials in which to carry the vaccine .......... followed by distribution and storage issues.  One bright spark yesterday announced that the whole of the UK could have been jabbed in 5 days!  Don't know how that would work?

There is no proof that masks stop the spread of C-19.  However, better to wear 1 than not?  I dreamt last night that I was in a crowded place and no one was wearing one, when I searched through my pocket mine was Much Too Large  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Cassie on January 10, 2021, 10:35:38 AM
It is apparant that warm weather does not have any effect on the spread, South Africa is in mid Summer and it is spreading there like wild fire. Masks are effective apparantly in that one gets a lower dose of the virus and so if infected should  not become that ill, who knows, it is all a guessing game at the moment.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Sage 🍃 on January 10, 2021, 11:38:36 AM
I agree with Cassie, SARS-CoV-2 spread doesn't seem to follow a seasonal pattern like the flu viruses. As for detection of variants, PCR sequencing is widely available worldwide. The only reason why the UK has detected it earlier is because, unlike the other ones previously detected, it has shown to have increased transmissibility, promptly detected in the UK, probably because it has originated in the UK or it has been brought here by case 0, the person carrying the mutant virus. We'll never know!
 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 11, 2021, 01:23:48 PM
It is time that football matches were stopped in the UK! All that hugging and hi5ing isn't helping stop the spread!  I may have muttered about this B4  :-\ but it is rife across the Pro football communities.  The government did threaten initially that any hugging etc. would cause the cancellation of matches but that hasn't happened.  Why am I not surprised ........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: C.C. on January 11, 2021, 01:43:37 PM
Right now we (the province of Ontario) are still under lockdown with new restrictive measures being announced today. It's expected a curfew will be implemented. Quebec has had a curfew since Saturday. Anyone going out between the hours of 8 pm and 5am is subject to a warning and or a fine.  Those going to work have to prove as such so they don't get penalized.
I am still off work.  The government has said in-person learning for all schools will resume on the 25th but honestly, I don't know if that is realistic. The numbers in Canada are soaring and each province has there own situations to deal with.
The long-term care homes are experiencing high cases here, worst than the first wave in the spring. They are getting vaccines but not nearly enough and for some families, sadly too late.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: littleminnie on January 12, 2021, 08:45:02 AM
I do feel slightly better now the vaccine rollout has fully started.  I know of a few people that have had the vaccine.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Shadyglade on January 13, 2021, 12:06:16 PM

There is a good explaination of the Lockdown rules, for those confused

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkmnxLq0r_0&feature=youtu.be

Chris Daws is a brilliant QC by the way.  :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: C.C. on January 13, 2021, 02:07:42 PM
Yesterday, the premier of Ontario announced new restrictions for the next 28 days as we are under another state of emergency effective tomorrow at 12:01 am.  But this is not the same state of emergency as the one in the spring.  There is much confusion over what stores and recreational activities are allowed to stay open that were closed in the spring.  As an example, we can now only have a limit of 5 in a group outdoors but outdoor skating rinks are allowed to remain open. The stores deemed non-essential are on reduced hours.  As for the schools, only those in the hot spot regions, eg. Toronto, will resume in-person learning on Feb.11th, whereas other regions start Jan.25th.  I live in a region that is surrounded by hot spots so I will imagine that date could be changed. 
Dh is not certain if he will be staying home for the next 28 days as his company would not be considered essential, but he seems to think he will be going in to work.  His job doesn't allow for him to work from home so who knows what will happen if he's told to stay home.
This whole thing is getting so tiresome.  I'm hopeful there is a light at the end of the tunnel with the vaccines being rolled out albeit slowly.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 13, 2021, 02:55:53 PM
Why not lock down as last year  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: C.C. on January 13, 2021, 03:59:10 PM
I don't know CLKD,  it's all so confusing.  Not everything is closed like last time, and the case numbers are so much higher this time around.  The problem is that the government has been dragging its heels in making the tough calls and not calling for a complete lockdown is crazy. They have been criticized for how badly they've handled this second wave.  They've put too much trust in the people doing as they're supposed to. Now we see that the majority of the cases are stemming from those private parties, even before the holidays.  Oh and now, we are told to wear masks outside if we can't socially distance. ::)

I'm not sure what the answer is.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: VikkiP on January 13, 2021, 04:15:34 PM
Hi C. C. unfortunately, it is exactly the same here in England, and i presume worldwide. Not much clarification, and everyone interpreting it to suit themselves. The Daily Mail is the main source of utter rubbish, i don't know how they are allowed to keep trading with some of the stories they print. No one has any clue what is going on in any other country unless they have friends or family there, but basically over here, 50% are hunkering down and 50% are just living like we used to, so its pretty much stalemate in terms of moving forward. However, vaccines are being given out, which is a good sign, as in Spanish forums, they are nowhere near us. I am 46 and will be pretty much last on the list, but it would be brilliant if it could be sorted before Xmas.

If there are members from out of UK, could you let us know how it is in your country?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Lyncola on January 14, 2021, 08:41:46 AM
In South Australia if you fly on a plane or at a airport with no face mask $50 000 fine.
UK needs to get stricter with face mask, lockdown is not enough  >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 14, 2021, 08:27:21 PM
You couldn't write it!


UK snow: Large crowds gather in Leeds for snowball fight

Large crowds took part in a mass snowball fight in a city park as wintry weather covered parts of Yorkshire.
Hundreds of people took part or watched on as snowballs were thrown in Leeds's Hyde Park on Thursday afternoon.
Lockdown rules say it is against the law to meet socially with family or friends unless they are part of your household or support bubble.


where was the Army with cold water hoses?  >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: C.C. on January 15, 2021, 01:46:07 PM
That's crazy!  At least the gathering was outside but still...against protocol all the same.

There are bylaw officers/police officers now that are going around esp. in the bigger towns and cities that will be monitoring outdoor gatherings and addressing any complaints.  They are not permitted, however, to enter private homes to check for illegal parties.  I'm sure some will take advantage of this and still have gatherings. ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 15, 2021, 02:44:08 PM
But 2 ladies taking a walk together alone, were read their rights by Derbyshire Police  >:(

the UK is in danger of running out of beds and staff to help those in need  :'(

Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: jillydoll on January 17, 2021, 05:59:20 PM
I don't know what to say.
It's so, so, bad out there.  :'(
Not only with the disease, but people who can't afford their bills, food, ect... :'(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Cassie on January 17, 2021, 06:33:53 PM
I feel quite desperate, when will it ever end, perhaps another year of this chaos  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 17, 2021, 07:05:41 PM
I think it will be a year B4 we can relax.  Boris has been slow in closing borders; now it's suggested that anyone coming in should isolate for 10 days in a hotel  :-\. Go figure.  Many have walked through UK airports without being stopped, checked, given advice and NOW ...... but many of us have been as close to keeping to the rules as we possibly can  :-\

I think that pro footballers should stop playing because they are all huggy/kissy/hi5fing and it's going through Teams like a Virus  >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: befuddled on January 17, 2021, 08:27:38 PM

That'll be the footballers who started getting three-times-a-week covid tests before the carehome workers even had enough PPE?  I expect they'll be shouting for priority to vaccines soon.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 18, 2021, 10:09:49 AM
Boris did suggest that any huggy/kissy actions with footballers and the games would be banned.  Yeah right.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Blot on January 18, 2021, 08:43:27 PM
Well I’m having my first Covid Vaccination tomorrow after messing around for weeks deciding whether I actually want it. I can’t make a decision about a pair of shoes never mind this and I totally overthink things to the extreme. So after discussions with my brain box son, I’ve gone for it.

Wish me luck and hopefully I have no side effects.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Shadyglade on January 18, 2021, 09:26:32 PM
Hi Blot,

I have two family members who are nurses.  Both have had their first vac and both felt unwell after.  The good news is that it was not too bad and they felt better after a couple of days. 🙂

Shadyglade
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 18, 2021, 09:34:56 PM
My sister had hers on the 7th with no problems.  Go for it.  It's about protecting all of us. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Blot on January 18, 2021, 09:47:45 PM
My 81 year old mum had the vaccine before Christmas and had no side effects whatsoever, not even a sore arm. Others at work have had varying degrees of symptoms from nothing at all to spending days in bed.
I don’t ever have the flu vaccine and I am very nervous - feel sick actually - but after coming up with all the excuses I’m just going for it 😬
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 19, 2021, 09:51:00 AM
Did U get it?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Blot on January 19, 2021, 09:44:34 PM
Yes I had it!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 20, 2021, 09:45:56 AM
 :medal:  how do U feel this morning?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Cassie on January 20, 2021, 11:17:01 AM
Does one get told which vaccine you are getting or is it pot luck? I think I would fancy the Oxford one if I had a choice. :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Taz2 on January 20, 2021, 12:04:05 PM
You don't have a choice. I'll take whichever one though.

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 20, 2021, 12:06:25 PM
Nope.  What ever is to hand.  The Pfizer one is difficult to store and transport so others mayB offered to areas away from Cities that don't have storage facilities.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 20, 2021, 02:16:27 PM
Nine Met Police officers have been fined for breaching lockdown rules to meet at a cafe while on duty.

Pictures emerged online showing the officers, from the South East Basic Command Unit, eating at The Chef House Kitchen Cafe, Greenwich, on 9 January.

All nine officers have been issued with a £200 fixed penalty notice.

Ch Supt Rob Atkin, said: "It is right that they will pay a financial penalty and that they will be asked to reflect on their choices.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Blot on January 20, 2021, 04:23:11 PM
Arm a bit sore and have a headache but get headaches anyway so that’s nothing.
We didn’t get a choice, it’s the Pfizer one. I’d have preferred the Oxford one tbh. Next one booked for 11 weeks time but hopefully they might start doing us earlier depending on supplies.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 20, 2021, 05:28:46 PM
Are you hydrated enough re headaches?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Blot on January 20, 2021, 06:25:54 PM
Thanks CLKD I’m fine. Headaches and arm easing now. Some of my colleagues were quite unwell after theirs so I’ve got off lightly  :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Lyncola on January 21, 2021, 09:01:37 AM
So update from south east Queensland Australia

We went into lock down (6 city’s) for three days because a cleaner got the UK strain of coronavirus (it’s what the Australian media calls it) after the three days lockdown, there was 10 days of mask wearing when in public.

Only one other person got it in that time, her husband and he was already in lockdown. So tomorrow we are mask free, 50 people are allowed in one house, we are allowed to dance etc.

Just got to show mask wearing and a quick lockdown works. I’m thankful to live in Australia.
How everyone going in the UK? I’ve got a couple of cousins living in the UK that have coronavirus. Doesn’t sound too good over there  :'(

Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 21, 2021, 09:52:51 AM
It isn't good. Yet.  What the media don't tell the public is how many people leave hospital daily, having recovered!

Hopefully your cousins will do good eventually!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Shadyglade on January 21, 2021, 01:01:12 PM
New guidance from WHO regarding PCR tests,


https://www.who.int/news/item/14-12-2020-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users

Interesting read, particularly the information about testing people with no symptoms.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 21, 2021, 01:33:26 PM
Boris - out and about AGAIN  >:( but telling the public that we must stay home.  Had another row with Carey or is the baby driving him out of No 10!   :beat: :beat: :beat:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 21, 2021, 01:37:54 PM
Wouldn't it be sensible, that prior to vaccinating people, a swab is taken 2 C how many are asymptomatic?  I can't get a test unless I show symptoms, however .........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: littleminnie on January 22, 2021, 01:03:42 PM
Lockdown until the summer?  Another briefing tonight
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Shadyglade on January 22, 2021, 01:16:51 PM
I don't watch them.  I might damage the TV.  >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 22, 2021, 01:27:50 PM
Certainly can't see it lifting much B4 Easter. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: littleminnie on January 22, 2021, 06:45:13 PM
I watch the briefings sometimes but not the questions.  The press ask stupid questions
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Shadyglade on January 22, 2021, 07:09:34 PM
I watch the briefings sometimes but not the questions.  The press ask stupid questions

And they get stupid answers.  When they do answer the question, that is. ☹️
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Katejo on January 22, 2021, 07:18:21 PM
Wouldn't it be sensible, that prior to vaccinating people, a swab is taken 2 C how many are asymptomatic?  I can't get a test unless I show symptoms, however .........
Here we are being encouraged to get a test even when symptom free. My work is offering the same but I would have to travel into Central London to use the work option.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 22, 2021, 07:24:25 PM
I don't know how that works  :-\ because 1 has to pay for test if symptom free.  Is your Company paying for these?

Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 22, 2021, 07:41:42 PM
150 guests at a wedding: Yesodey Hatorah Senior Girls' School, in Stamford Hill, had been covered when they arrived at 21:15 GMT on Thursday.
Guests fled from the strictly Orthodox Charedi Jewish school when the police arrived. The organisers face a £10,000 fine for breaking lockdown rules.

In a statement, the school said its hall had been leased out.

[which is illegal under current lock down Laws]

A spokesman for the school, whose principal Rabbi Avrahom Pinter died in April after contracting coronavirus, said "we had no knowledge that the wedding was taking place".

He added: "We are absolutely horrified about last night's event and condemn it in the strongest possible terms."
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: littleminnie on January 23, 2021, 09:07:09 AM
I don't know how that works  :-\ because 1 has to pay for test if symptom free.  Is your Company paying for these?

The lateral flow tests are free when they are testing in a high rate area.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: littleminnie on January 23, 2021, 09:18:14 AM
I watch the briefings sometimes but not the questions.  The press ask stupid questions

And they get stupid answers.  When they do answer the question, that is. ☹️

I expect that off the government but the press are just asking questions to score points and they are all the same questions.  It’s so annoying.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 23, 2021, 09:59:39 AM
They are also pre-asked so that ready answers can be given.  Like PM's question time  ::)

Pity that we don't have details of those that recover and are discharged. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 29, 2021, 05:30:44 PM
Boris went on a jolly yesterday  >:( I am spitting bricks!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Katejo on January 29, 2021, 05:56:56 PM
I don't know how that works  :-\ because 1 has to pay for test if symptom free.  Is your Company paying for these?

The lateral flow tests are free when they are testing in a high rate area.
  They are free here and the local authority is asking people to get tested to avoid asymptomatic spread. I had one yesterday before going into my workplace today.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 29, 2021, 06:44:43 PM
Some companies pay for workers to have regular tests, if I want 1 as I don't have symptoms I would have to pay. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: littleminnie on January 29, 2021, 06:46:45 PM
They are free in a lot of workplaces now.  They are in a lot of schools, NHS offices, Council offices. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on January 29, 2021, 06:48:37 PM
MayB it's changed, I haven't really looked into local testing.  It would be useful to do a nose/throat swab B4 giving the jab and later doing anti-body tests. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on February 05, 2021, 09:43:47 AM
English Flag flying at half-mast and Joe Root wearing a black armband - cricket India against England - in respect for Captain Sir Tom  8)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on February 11, 2021, 10:31:29 AM
Silverstone Half Marathon taking place at 1.00 p.m. on Sunday - how does that work?  People will mix at the Circuit, there will be huffing and puffing probably without masks ......... what happened to 'stay at home' .......... wonder how many other 'small' events are taking place that never make the News?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Taz2 on February 12, 2021, 12:21:47 AM
Rescheduled CLKD https://www.silverstone.co.uk/events/run-silverstone-half-marathons/

Taz x  :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on February 12, 2021, 09:27:43 AM
 :thankyou:

When I looked yesterday it hadn't been rescheduled on the Circuit web-site, but the Events organisation had put it back to October.  No joined up thinking - wonder how many will turn up!

Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Shadyglade on March 10, 2021, 08:03:46 AM
Test & Trace is officially a waste of money then.

Who'd have thought it. 🤔 🙄
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on March 12, 2021, 04:06:05 PM
Boris thinks it's OK for him to go to Ireland now  >:( but we can't hold a vigil on Clapham Common for women attacked across the UK  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on March 16, 2021, 02:27:40 PM
Now he's off to the Far East  :o ........... no dates given but that is his next holiday.

Meanwhile in Wales:

Seventeen patients are being treated after contracting Covid-19 at a north Wales hospital.

Betsi Cadwaladr health board said of the 39 patients being treated for coronavirus at Ysbyty Gwynedd in Bangor, 17 had caught it in hospital.

Staff and patients are being tested for the virus after an outbreak was confirmed on five adult wards at the end of February.

The health board said the majority of patients were recovering.



Initially it was over 100 patients, some transferred to Ysbyty Gwynedd from hospitals outside Wales, i.e. Shropshire - due to a lack of beds in England.  What happened to ............
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: littleminnie on April 06, 2021, 11:44:43 AM
Off to the shops next week  :scottie: :scottie: :scottie:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Shadyglade on April 06, 2021, 12:47:11 PM
Off to the shops next week  :scottie: :scottie: :scottie:


I can't wait.  I have a very long list.  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: littleminnie on April 06, 2021, 01:03:49 PM
 ;D I have a medium list but I want to go in a shop that isn’t a supermarket
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on April 06, 2021, 01:35:44 PM
not Ann Summers again  :whist:

I am after roses  8)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: C.C. on April 08, 2021, 01:59:32 PM
We are in another lockdown for 4 weeks (at least) and as of 12:01 this morning, a stay-at-home order is in effect.  The school boards around us have gone to remote learning but not our school board. The new cases have been 3000 per day and I don't get how some schools are still open.  The government did announce that teachers may be able to get their first shot over the spring break, which is next week.
Dh is getting his shot next Friday as anyone 60 plus in our region are eligible now.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: Taz2 on April 08, 2021, 02:21:49 PM
Sorry you've got another lockdown. It's so difficult to know when any of us will get back to something that passes as a normal life. Glad your DH is getting his shot soon.

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on April 08, 2021, 03:15:44 PM
I suppose all this lockdown works  :-\ ..........

Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: C.C. on April 08, 2021, 04:06:51 PM
Sorry you've got another lockdown. It's so difficult to know when any of us will get back to something that passes as a normal life. Glad your DH is getting his shot soon.

Taz x

This time around people are quite fed up with the provincial government. The vaccine rollout has been lousy and the stay-at-home order is just making everyone angrier. The minister of education is a doofus...he says the schools will stay open despite the lockdown.  How does that make sense?  The teachers I talk to daily are all hoping the break will be longer or the public health orders the schools closed, which goes against what the government wants.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on April 08, 2021, 04:10:32 PM
'they' go their own way  ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: C.C. on April 10, 2021, 12:55:34 PM
Whoo hoo! I will be eligible to register for a vaccine appointment as of this coming Friday! The government finally decided that teachers and educational workers are essential.  Schools will be closed for spring break next week so they want to try and get all those that work with kids registered as soon as possible. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on April 10, 2021, 01:35:22 PM
Don't all rush at once  ::)

I think our Government got the idea wrong.  Hey ho! research will hopefully prefer us for the next Pandemic !
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: C.C. on April 12, 2021, 11:07:51 PM
The teachers will have time to get their shots as the government just announced today the schools will be closed and will go to remote learning for the near future. They did a complete 180 degrees as Sunday they sent a letter home to parents saying schools will be open after this week's break!  Someone didn't get the memo.. ???

So now there is the chance of temporary layoffs, as well as the possibility of opening an emergency child care centre but that opens a whole other can of worms.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - 2021
Post by: CLKD on April 13, 2021, 08:44:57 AM
Do you feel that your Government is in panic mode?