Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: Djangobear on June 05, 2020, 06:24:18 PM
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Hi there. I'm new to the forum but believe I may be going through perimenopause. I am 42.5 years old and so far this year, my cycle has been completely out of whack, irregular in days, missing cycles, very heavy, etc. Approx 1.5 months ago I experienced some dizziness/lightheadedness. I chalked it up at first to possible anxiety or stress in light of everything going on with Covid19. These spells have been coming on periodically but gradually increasing until this past Monday when things really ramped up. I was outside gardening and felt the sensation coming on and had to come inside and lay down. I was worried as though I might pass out. This resulted in fatigue and feeling off most of the day so I spent most of the day in bed. The next day I felt a little better although tired. Also my period was late and I started to worry that I might be pregnant but took two tests, one that day and one a couple days later and both were negative. The next day I worked in the a.m but as the morning went on I was feeling more and more anxious and started to have that awful lightheaded furry head feeling again. After lunch I was getting my 2yr old down for a nap and thought I was going to pass out. My arms got really week and I was very lightheaded and dizzy and felt completely off. I was home alone with my 2yr old at the time and called my mother in law who lives close and she came right over. It was terrifying and I was worried something would happen to me and my son would be left alone. I ended up going to the ER and was hooked up to a heart monitor for several hours. Also had bloodwork done. Heart readings came back normal, blood pressure normal, blood work was all normal with the exception of my iron being on the low end of normal. The doctor did a physical and mini neuro exam and told me I was not having a heart attack, stroke, or MS. She wrote me a prescription for vertigo medication and also iron supplements and told me to follow up with my doctor. That was the day before yesterday. Oh and I should mention that my period did come but was 2 weeks late. Yesterday I started my meds and still felt off. I woke at 5am to an anxiety attack. Tried to sleep it off. Napped off and on throughout the day. Same as today woke up feeling very anxious. I'm now having digestive issues, feeling tired with off and on anxiety. I'm feeling like I can't do the things I normally do. I'm normally a very active person, I walk my dog daily, play with son, do yoga, eat healthy, I'm a go go go type of person and not one to sit still. I am questioning whether I have a hormonal imbalance and whether this may be causing me to have anxiety attacks. All I know is I can't continue to go on like this. I feel miserable and my anxiety is through the roof. Has anyone experienced this type of anxiety due to perimenopause? Or any of these symptoms? Fatigue, weakness in limbs, strange off head feeling, dizziness, lightheadedness, etc. It is becoming debilitating. I have a follow up appointment with my own doctor next week and I am going to inquire about antianxiety medication and also to have my hormone levels checked. I am also not on any birth control but wondering if this may help to even things out?? Any feedback you may have would be most appreciated. Thanks so much! :'(
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Hi there. I'm new to the forum but believe I may be going through perimenopause.
I am 42.5 years old and so far this year, my cycle has been completely out of what, irregular in days, missing cycles, very heavy, etc. Approx 1.5 months ago I experienced some dizziness/lightheadedness. I chalked it up at first to possible anxiety or stress in light of everything going on with Covid19. . -
sounds like peri menopause. The Change. Does what it says on the tin but can throw up some weird strange feelings.
These spells have been coming on periodically but gradually increasing until this past Monday when things really ramped up. I was outside gardening and felt the sensation coming on and had to come inside and lay down. I was worried as though I might pass out. This resulted in fatigue and feeling off most of the day so I spent most of the day in bed.
Bending down can cause those sensations. I have a nerve in the back of my neck which when I move suddenly can cause 'dizziness'. Gone as soon as I say 'oh!'.
more anxious and started to have that awful lightheaded furry head feeling again.
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When anxiety strikes we breath differently which can increase that light headed feeling. The body can become weak, it's often adrenaline which 4 me is like hot water running through my veins. Once I realised it didn't bother me as much.
The doctor did a physical and mini neuro exam and told me I was not having a heart attack, stroke, or MS. She wrote me a prescription for vertigo medication and also iron supplements and told me to follow up with my doctor. That was the day before yesterday.
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Did U feel reassured after the A&E visit. At least you had a thorough check up, the report should be at your GPs when you next go.
I woke at 5am to an anxiety attack.
I had problems with cortisol, the waking hormone. It would jolt me awake as early as 3.30 a.m. and I would have to get out of bed, get dressed. Then I would sit. For hours.
Hormone upheaval can certainly upset digestion etc.. As oestrogen levels drop the skin may become dry: inside and out, as well as muscles becoming lax = aches and pains. However much this is 'normal' it can be awful.
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Some find keeping a mood/food/symptom diary of use. Do take a list to your appt of how you feel.
Hormone replacement therapy can help as can appropriate anti-anxiety and anti-depressant medication: some find that they need all 3 to keep them on a more even keel.
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Thank you. I've been documenting everything and just hope to be feeling back to normal soon!
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Little steps. It's The Change. Does what it says on the tin ::)
:welcomemm:
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If it is the change, how long will it be this debilitating? I'm just constantly lying down. I need to be there for my 2.5yr old son :'( I expected to have hot flashes and I have had the odd one but hasn't been for quite some time and I have had night sweats but just laying in bed and not being able function when I have a full time job and a toddler isn't an option. Any suggestions?? I'm hoping my doctor will agree to run some more tests and give me something that will help with the anxiety on Wednesday.
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And yes I did feel reassured after having the EKG and seeing the doc in emergency. I chalked it up to low iron possibly where my periods are so heavy, anxiety, and possibly perimenopause. I just hate how this hit me like a brick wall. I'm scared to walk my dog and be home alone with my son at the moment. Thankfully my hubby was able to take a couple days off work and be home to do everything as I've felt useless. He goes back to work on Monday so I'm just hoping my symptoms will improve by then. Maybe after a few days of iron supplements, and once my period comes to an end, things will begin to level out again.
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I started with vertigo, light-headedness, constant dizziness and severe nausea at 42.
2 years down the line, a lot of tests later, and I'm 99% sure it's hormonal. I'm currently trying to get stable on a combined pill, but each one I try brings me bad side effects. Whilst on the pill, no nausea or vertigo!! I'm pretty sure it's hormonal.
I wish you luck. I just want to get on a pill that works for me to even me out. Xx
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How did you feel during your menstruating years or is this a different pattern? Did U have post natal depression?
Also you have 2 year old to chase after. They are either up and at it or asleep? R U able to sleep when he does? Do you work from home? Maybe time to readjust your life style?
......... and breath. Half a day at a time. Try to delegate chores as much as possible and if there's dust, leave it ;-).
Talk to your GP about blood loss and low iron levels. Let us know how you get on.
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Crispychick. That's reassuring thank you and sorry you've had to go through that. How often were/are your symptoms? Was it just around the time of your period or certain times during the month?? I've had some nausea too but it's mostly the light headedness, fatigue, off head feeling which makes it hard to function. Also the anxiety is awful. I'm also thinking of going back on the pill as well to see if that may help. I went off it when trying to get pregnant and haven't been back on it since. Was worried about being on it for so long and also didnt like how it made me feel. But anything is better than this! I welcome any advice or suggestions you may have. Hopefully you've been able to get some relief! xx
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Hi CKLD,
Before my son my periods were regular altho I was on the pill. They were longer and 28 day cycle. Over the past few years they shortened to a 21 day cycle and became very heavy. My son is 2.5yrs. He was actually born on my 40th birthday! Best birthday gift ever :D
I never had post partum depression or at least wasnt diagnosed with it but had a very difficult and traumatic delivery that resulted in an emergency c section after hours and hours of labor. I also lost my Dad to cancer the year before and he and I also share the same birthday so three generations born on the same day has been very special and my son has helped to heal the hole that was left in my heart after my Dad passed. I do work from home currently due to Covid19. I think the pandemic also has not helped my anxiety and the stress of having to juggle work and childcare and maintaining the home all became very overwhelming. I just started taking an iron supplement since my ER visit so will see if it helps. I may be able to nap sometimes when my son does but will depend on the meetings I have that day. My work can be demanding at times. I am also trying to lower my expectations on housework which is a tough one for me haha as I've always made that a priority, second to my son, and unfortunately, I've put my needs on the back burner. It does make me feel better knowing that others have experienced these symptoms and I'm not going crazy :)
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My symptoms seemed constant at the time. The dizziness and nausea were horrific.
After a bad first month starting the pill, I came back off it, but my symptoms returned, with such bad vertigo I was in bed with it. That's why I went back on the pill, but like I say, still trying to find one that works for me.
I've been on the pill on and off since my teens, never struggled with side effects as much as I am now. It just feels like my hormones have changed.
The realisation for me at 44, is that this could last years, I just want something to stabaliise me. I have a 10 and 11 year old and it is very hard going through this whilst trying to be a good mum. I empathise.
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Oh belated Happy Birthday :cake: my friend had her son on her 40th, many years ago ;-). Another friend shares her Mum's birthday .....
We have to remember too that we are ageing. Add to that hormonal upheaval ......... my head says 18 ;D , body however ::)
Does your son go down for a regular nap, if so arrange your work around that so that you can rest too. Otherwise it becomes more difficult.
Housework - well apart from being cheaper than a trip to the gym, I have made avoiding the duster an Art Form ;-). I've never ..... because I prefer to be in the garden or out walking. Don't forget that 2 year olds love to weild a duster 'to help Mummy'.
Little steps.
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Crispychick have you had anxiety as well? I find that makes everything so much worse :( I'm hoping the pill will help level me out. I'm even starting to feel a little better today than what I have the past 5 days but just been resting a lot. My period is almost done too so that could be why if hormones are leveling out somehow. I dont really know much about all that but would be interesting to see if my symptoms are worse during the beginning of my cycles. Will be keeping track of that. Thanks for the support and hope you find something that works for you. It's no surprise with everything we have to go through from PMS to periods to childbirth that perimenopause would be equally as tough. Hang in there!
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Thanks CLKD. Yes I've been napping when he naps when I dont have to work. I think dusting is likely my fave household chore as I find it relaxing but have been letting that slide lately and sticking to tidying up for now... I guess a little dust won't hurt anyone. Thanks for your support :)
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When I had a small cat, if she left paw prints in the dust I knew it was time .......... ;D
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I have been feeling exactly like this for over a week, had palpitations and sudden dizziness, and head feels fuzzy, and lightheaded, i suffer from Vertigo too and have had the same feeling of might pass out
Also terrible tinnitus ,
I am not perimenopausal so thats not my problem, but i wonder if it is some kind of virus [not corona]
Also now have a sinus infection, so that doesn't help, but i have exactly the same Djangobear
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Hi Djangobear, when I started the menopause age 52 these were the symptoms I hated the most. As you said, it leaves you unable to function. I went onto HRT and have been on it since ( now 62). The symptoms did improve but did come back now and again. I have had this again recently over the last couple of days and I hate it. I've been feeling so well of late, I now feel I am going backwards 😢. On my menopause journey I don't feel you ever get back to normal again you just learn to live with the odd blip as I call them, there are more good days than bad. Xx
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Tried to take my dog for a walk yesterday which is something I really enjoy and had such anxiety I couldn't leave the driveway. Today I went for a walk with my husband, son, and dog and managed to walk a ways before the dizziness/strange head feeling hit me again. I've noticed I've also been very emotional, feeling down and tearful. My husband is trying to do everything and it's only agitating me more as I feel like I'm incompetent despite him having the best intentions and going above and beyond. I just want to feel normal again :'( I'm really hoping my doctor can give me something as I can't go on like this. Open to any suggestions anyone may have. Thanks!
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Hi Jaycee. Have you found anything to make you feel better? Have you had any tests done? I'm thinking mine is anxiety but maybe brought on by an imbalance of some kind... possibly hormonal. I'm going to request to have my hormone levels checked. I dont feel it's a virus as I've been having theses episodes for the past 1.5 months sporadically but have gotten really bad within the past week. I also haven't been around others due to Covid so and have no other virus like symptoms.
My period was also 2 weeks late and symptoms started right before / during my period. It is an awful feeling tho especially to experience when alone so really want to get to the bottom of things quickly. I'm hoping that maybe getting on the pill and some antianxiety meds may help.
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JGR so sorry to hear that. I hope you're feeling better soon! And yes they are awful feelings. Will be interesting to see if it is all hormone related for me. Time will tell.
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Just a note - my hormones were all perfectly fine on the blood tests.
Don't rule hormones out because bloods show you are fine. As I understand, bloods don't show perimenopause.
I've just had to switch pill yet again because of side affects. Pills I tolerated well in my youth no longer work for me. Adds more fuel to the fire that its hormones, but just can't get sorted out. Hiwever, as I said before, I don't get the vertigo or nausea on the pill, it may well be worth a try for you. Xx
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Crispychick thanks so much! When I had bloodwork done they never checked my Estrogen levels, just iron, thyroid, blood sugars, hemoglobin, B12... the usual tests they do. The ER doc said I would need to talk to my GP about those tests which I plan to on Wed. I'm also hoping the pill will make a difference and have thought the same thing that what I used as a youth most my life may not be the best fit for me now but time will tell. When you had the dizziness how often did you have it? Was it just certain times during your cycle? Or was it just random? I do feel that I am doing better than I was a few days ago as before I could not function and spent most of the day in bed. Today I got out for a little walk and have been able to get some housework in the past couple days. Last evening I practiced yoga and it felt so good! I typically practice daily, sometimes twice a day as it really helped to keep me grounded and calm during Covid but had zero energy last week to do much of anything let alone yoga. Slowly feeling more normal but still feel emotionally low and had dizziness today on my walk which was unsettling. But baby steps... I'm hoping that it's all hormonal and that the pill will help to level me out. Thanks again xx
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Hormones.
Your husband probably isn't treating you like you are incompetent, you are being over sensitive. Why would he, he went for a walk with you?
You are now hard wired to except to feel 'bad' whilst out. It happened to me in the 1990s, I couldn't leave the house for weeks. DH had to walk my dog ....... as soon as I left the house I would feel sick, light headed, weak in the legs ......... a natural reaction to stress but knowing it's natural didn't help. Remembering to breath was incredibly difficult but when anxiety hits our breathing becomes shallow which self perpetuates anxiety.
Go outside and breath. Don't go any further. Don't put pressure on yourself. Back inside B4 the anxiety kicks in. Little steps further and further each day. I was prescribed specific medication to get over this.
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Thank you CLKD. And yes my husband has been wonderful which makes me feel even worse that I haven't been able to do the things I normally do to help out. I've struggled with anxiety on and off since I was a teenager but it's been a long time since things became so debilitating. I'm a very independent person normally and hate to burden anyone. But... I will say today was better than yesterday and yesterday was better than the day before. Taking things one day at a time and yes breathing is so important. I'm a yoga teacher as well and practice breath work often. Sometimes in the moment things are easier said than done but I have been practicing breathing through the panic. Today on my walk when I felt the dizziness/strange feeling come over me I did manage to breathe through it and I made it back home. It still wasnt pleasant but I made it home, I feel better, and nothing bad happened. I think some medication and maybe hormonal birth control will help to give me the boost that I need. Thanks again xx
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...... and breath ;-). Yoga needs practice - so choose appropriate exercise to help!
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I read this and oh my gosh I could have written this expect I've got two very young kids. I'm 44 and been feeling like this for the last few months. My doctor isn't taking me seriously and actually said to me I need to calm down 😬. I've kept a diary of all my symptoms and if it wasn't for lockdown and the support of my husband I don't know how I would have coped.
My periods have been like clockwork 28 days but since February they are all over the place and I got a period after five months, then every few weeks very heavy.
We have a history of early menopause in the family but the doctor isn't taking me seriously. I've finally got the gp to do full bloods for everything to see if they can shed any light.
I can't go through this for the next few years. :'(
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Take note from my earlier post - I have been going through this torture for 2 1/2 years. Noone suggested it could be hormones. Noone!!! I'm 99% sure it is.
I'm still no where near balanced, but trying different combined pills. I know what's wrong now though. I no longer get sent for mri and ct scans or to a neurologist.
You know what you think it is. Do not lose sight of that. Take any other tests, by all means, just don't let them fob you off by saying you are too young. I was 42 when this started. Xx
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No one is too young! Some girls have 1 period then nothing, a few have no bleed at all. Some ladies begin as early as 35 .......
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Hi Djangobear. I have been going through this since Feb 2019. Started with mild morning anxiety which got worse over time and is still bad. I have days when I only get up to eat because this is so important at this time of our lives. I have had every sympton except hair loss. I think I have had such a bad time because my periods went from 28 30 days to six months three months and nine months. No early ones or being a week late kind of thing. I only work two days instead of five now. Luckily we are mortgage free. I have tried various HRT and am in my fifth month of gel and utro. Have increased to six pumps and last week had three good days when the most I had before was one and half. I dont make plans ahead now just half a day at a time. It must be so hard with a little one luckily my two are grown up and my daughter is my rock. I just wish men could live one day in my shoes when I am at my lowest then there would be more help for women. One promise I have made to myself is in the future when hopefully I get all of my old self back I am going to set up some local group to help others because I never imaged it would be this bad.
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it's awful
I can't believe we are going through all these horrid symptoms, I don't know what I will do if bloods come back normal, by gp will be even more dismissive than he already is.
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Thank you for all the posts. It's reassuring to know that I'm not alone but also scary to hear that some of you have been dealing with this for quite some time. Have any of you tried any medications to treat your anxiety? I'm going to request that when I talk to my doctor on Wednesday. Today wasn't all bad. This morning my anxiety kicked in when my husband left for work. The thought of being home alone left me feeling very anxious but I did some yoga and was able to breathe through the panic until it settled. I then went about my day feeling pretty good and was able to get some housework done. Later this afternoon I went for a walk with a friend and our dogs along a wooded trail that I love. I was doing well and then the dizziness kicked in. I told her what was going on so we stopped by the river and sat while the dogs splashed around until I started to feel normal again. This dizziness/light headedness came on a couple more times along our walk but I took some deep breaths and just powered through. These anxiety attacks are awful but little steps and just trying to breathe through them until I have my doctor's appointment.
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Fez1976 all my bloodwork has come back normal so far with the exception of my iron being on the low end of normal. I am going to push to have my estrogen levels checked. Hang in there and hope knowing that you're not alone gives you some peace of mind xx.
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Morning
Having spoken to few older friends who have been through this have said the fact that bloods come back normal would suggest even more that it's peri menapause. However it's the way doctors make you feel silly and irrational.
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GPs don't know much about menopause nor how symptoms affect us. My head is woozy after busy dreams and I'm shaking a bit. Hopefully breakfast will ease that one!
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Thankfully I have a very supportive GP. She has been wonderful anytime I've gone to see her and always takes my concerns seriously. I am lucky as I've been to other doctors who have not and have friends who have not been taken seriously by their doctors. My doctor is also only a few years older than me so hoping she may be in the same boat!! ;D
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CKLD, l woke up woozy headed and shaky this morning. First woke at 6am, went back to sleep for an hour and woke feeling like that. I think you sleep very deeply and dream intensely (if that's possible) when that happens. Took me a while to feel 'normal' again. Breakfast and distraction helped.
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Tnx. Still at the breakfast stage as well as not taking medication last night due to feeling poorly.
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Had incredibly bad dizzy spells that started when I was around 42, I suffered with them every day for years until one doctor put me on Betahistine and I've never looked back. They also stopped when I was taking hrt but unfortunately I was only on it for two months as I had two migraine auras in a week and was taken off it immediately. Hope you get sorted as it's a horrible thing to have to live with.
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Hi there,
Just wanted to post an update. Had my doctor's appointment today. Long story short she has prescribed sertraline to help with the anxiety symptoms, booked me in for pelvic exam tomorrow, going to test my LH and SSH levels in the event that my symptoms are hormonal, going to put me back on the birth control pill as she said that would help with that, and referring me for an MRI of my head to rule out MS. She is being very thorough and was very supportive. I'm thankful that she is addressing things right away. Today I'm continuing to experience high anxiety but could be due to trying to balance work, childcare, and anxiety re my medical appointment. I'm hoping the medication will help to calm me down. Aside from that, thankful to have a supportive GP :)
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Kate W, sorry you've had to go through all of that. I am also currently taking betahistine but I dont really think that's my issue as my symptoms now seem to be related to high anxiety. Glad to hear that it worked for you :)
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I have a very good GP 8)
Let us know how you get on Djangobear .....
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Will do CLKD. How are you feeling now? Any better? Hope your dizziness subsided and that you're doing okay now :)
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Hi there.
reading your post is like listening to a post i myself would write. im 48 now and i started out with those exact symptoms at 42. literally overnight. nausea, light headed but no spinning - like i was motion sick. unfortunately for me i am still suffering. it has been a long road for me. :'(visited every consultant i could think of - 3 ENT specialists, 2 neurologists, 2 cardiologists. had MRI, bloods etc.
my own doctor is compleltely uncaring and even suggested i could be depressed. that suggestion alone was so disheartenning. in ireland where i live, its very hard to change doctor as they are all full to capacity. my periods have changed in the last few years to shorter cycles but i havent missed one. i wish they would just go away.
i too have low iron and i am working on that but what i think is important is if you get your ferritin checked which is your iron stores and with all bloods ALWAYS ask for a printout of the levels as they can tell you they are normal when in fact they are at the lower end of normal. B12 is very important too.
i think the lowering of oestrogen affects our blood vessels and causes that light headed feeling. i had my period on thursday last and all saturday i was sooo dizzy and felt sick with it.. just from walking around. i was told by a nutritionist that there are oestrogen receptors all over our bodies, including the brain so im holding onto that.
i too am working from home and juggling kids, house, job etc and finding it very stressful too.
i wish i could offer you some suggestions, but i cant as i cant even help myself. just make sure you are taking good supplements and eating well.. the usual lifestyle stuff. unfortunately, blood tests dont show perimenopause changes as the hormones fluctuate too much.
keep in touch x
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I hate that dizzy feeling. Intermittent for me. Fortunately.
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Hi Update.
How is everyone well? I kept pushing for more blood tests. My period last time was flooding and still had all the symptoms, weakness dizziness exhausted out of breath
Well they cane back, my iron/ ferritin came back as 7 which is very very low apparently. I'm already on 3 ferrous furmate tablets a day for low iron. I'm having a iron infusion next week.
my fsh is 12, I still think I'm per menapause. I've been referred to gynaecology as well .
I'm so so fed these last three months have been horrendous, going round in circles and trying to look after 2 young children.
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Hi Ladies
I wish I had read this post 10 years ago ???
My vertigo, light-headedness and feeling strange as if I was drunk all started at 49. Periods became irregular but flooding, weight gain etc I saw my GP several ent Doctors who told me I had Labrinthytus >:( >:( >:( although I didn't feel ill just weird. In my heart I new it was hormonal but no one agreed and said I would just have to live with it. Many years of sufferin….
I am 61 now and although the vertigo has improved anxiety especially in the mornings is crippling me. Thank goodness for this site. You know your own body, do your research and find answer….. please don't put up with it as I did.
Wx
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I have been feeling like this for the last few weeks,have to have an ECG next friday, it started with something like a massive hot flush, which turned into a panic attack i think and terrible sudden depression-like feelings
Also felt as if i was suffocating, no idea why all this happened,
I often have a feeling of shaking inside,nothing can be seen,terrible tinnititus, and a buzzing sensation through my body
Heart palpitations .then racing heart, light headedness
The blood tests should cover everything i think, including more thyroid tests,
I'm not peri menopausal ,but well post meno
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Jaycee
I would put money on it being hormones. When I was peri seemed it was more of vertigo/light-headedness. since post meno it's everything..... the strangest feelings ever from night jerks, morning anxiety, tingling from head to toe, feel like ants crawling on me along with sweating, flushes etc. No ever told me this would happen.
The problem for me was all Doctors put my symptoms down to other things like Ladrinthytis, or anxiety.... what a load of cr...p I new it was the change deep down as my Gran described sweats, giddy turns whilst 'going through the change' I remember my mum struggling with anxiety.....
10 years of my life wasted in my opinion
Wx
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Hello ladies
Fez1976 - I had an iron infusion about 18 months ago and it helped a lot. However be prepared for a brown staining to appear on your teeth. The dentist told me this is a common effect and the hygienist soon removed it but I thought you might like to know.
I hope you feel better soon as the menopause and caring for young children must be extremely difficult.
Wishing you well.
K.
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Same here :'(
Exactly the same as you and my GP puts it down to Labrythitis and Anxiety too.... >:(
I tell her it's hormones, she doesn't listen, why do they NEVER listen, maybe it's easier for them to dish out more pills than investigate the cause???!!
Jaycee
I would put money on it being hormones. When I was peri seemed it was more of vertigo/light-headedness. since post meno it's everything..... the strangest feelings ever from night jerks, morning anxiety, tingling from head to toe, feel like ants crawling on me along with sweating, flushes etc. No ever told me this would happen.
The problem for me was all Doctors put my symptoms down to other things like Ladrinthytis, or anxiety.... what a load of cr...p I new it was the change deep down as my Gran described sweats, giddy turns whilst 'going through the change' I remember my mum struggling with anxiety.....
10 years of my life wasted in my opinion
Wx