Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Sammiejane on May 18, 2020, 03:25:55 PM
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hi
i?m due to start testosterone tonight in the hope it improves my energy libido and hair shedding
is this better applied at night or morning x
thank you
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I do morning and I would allow at least 3-6 month before you see any changes. It can be quicker for some women but I think for the most the changes are subtle and not immediate, but once it starts working it is fantastic IMO.
HTH,
S
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Hi Sammiejane
I also apply mine in the morning.
Good luck
Lanzalover x
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I'm morning too x
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hi ladies
i shall apply morning is this to thigh alternating ?
also have you ladies seen regrowth of hair and improved thickness
i?m hoping so badly this works as i feel better in myself but hair shedding started again on the gel and adding in progesterone i thought would help it had other things but not hair not any worse but not much better so frustrating x
i don't know whether to change to a patch but not sure this makes much difference as all estrogen so hoping tesosterone helps
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Hi I have been on testosterone a couple of years now and hair shedding was quite bad prior to this. T has helped the condition of my hair and This time last year it thickened up quite suddenly and dramatically, unfortunately since about February I'm in shedding phase again so back to buying thickening shampoos/concealers etc
I can't blame the T though x
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Sammiejane,
I apply it alternately in a 4 day rota, inner right knee, inner left knee, outer right knee, outer left knee, so I'm varying the patch of skin I'm applying it to. it's a tiny amount of gel (petit pois) and I just smear it thinly rather than rub it in, which seems to work for me.
I think I've said before I've never had a problem with thinning hair, but my hair is very fine, and always has been and T hasn't changed that. My hair possibly grows a bit faster and before HRT my body hair was reducing - not that I've ever had much anyway, but it seems to grow a bit faster but not really increased compared to my younger years.
HTH,
S
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hi ladies
thank you for the reply's i?m using trostan so have to apply 1 pump every other day to inner thigh alternating the thigh .
my hair thinning is all over since starting hrt and behind ears well ear to ear underneath nape of neck almost bold x lol
over the last year i have been taking photos very few weeks obsessed i know and no tutoring the hair fall and is definitely thinner although it isn't as dry so instead of washing once a week i now have to do it 2-3 times
hair shedding less since adding progesterone compared to estrogen on its own however hair feels thinner but not sure if it's because it's in better condition. not as frizzy but has thinned mega since hrt do the medication had caused it
if i were to stop hrt as testosterone my last attempt ! would the hair regrow if it's the medication causing it ?
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Sammiejane,
it's Tostran I'm on and I tried to get up to the prescribed dose when I started it but I never managed - I got tetchy and argumentative and just didn't feel right, so I experimented with the dose by measuring it with a syringe and it came out that my symptoms are best controlled by a petit pois size blob.
Doing alternate days gave me peaks and troughs due to using such a small dose, and using every day is still considerably less than the prescribed amount so my gynaecologist is happy with me doing this.
I'm using it for libido and muscle/joint immobility and aching, all of which it controls very nicely.
HTH,
S
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hi
so if i have to do a pump every other day say mon , wed , fri, sun i could do half pump daily ?
how do u know with a pea size blob you getting the same each time
i've noticed nothing so far only used twice except increase sweating will this settle
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I'm Tostran too. I do alternate days
It really can take quite a few months to notice changes. Energy I think was my first, within weeks, social anxiety subsided quite fast too. Re: libido ; I'm either sex mad or can't be arsed. When I'm in the mood my response is amazing ! X
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Hi Sammiejane,
Testosterone did help with my hairloss, I didn't loose anymore hairs and my hair had more volume, my curls came back too. But it's different for every women so you have to wait and see.
I think one pump or half a pumpTostran is too much for a women. Prof.Studd prescribes 2/ 3 mg a day and if after a while you don' t feel any benefits you can up the dose slowly. I suspect you are sweating more because the dose is to high.
Hurdity wrote a post about it;
https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,39588.0.html
I think you should start with a pea- size blob every day. I bought a seringe at a pet store ( for feeding baby animals) and put one pump in the seringe. That way it"s much easier to get the right dose. I stored the seringe in the frigde, don't know if that's necessary but just to be sure.
If that's to much of a hassle you can try to put a bit of gel on a small plate and take it of with your finger.
Alicess X
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hi alicess
i have a medicine syringe !
but how much of the pump do you put in it !
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annie0710
are u still on the estrogel ? how many pumps
do u take one pump of trostan every other day ?
did u get hair shedding on the gel prior to taking tesosterone and has tesosterone improved this x
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hi alicess
i was sweating before tesosterone when i increased the gel to 2.5 pumps as i was getting more vaginal watery discharge on just 2 pumps but to be honest don't think 2.5 pumps made much difference to this and it has giving me more armpit and groin sweating when i was off hrt i didn't have this i think maybe drop the gel back down but then i have only been on this dose for a week x maybe it will settle ?
my boobs are worrying me though cause they have tripled in size and if my little boy comes in for a cuddle and presses against them they hurt so much
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I have a seringe of 5 ml and one sachet of Testogel or one pump Androgel fits in the seringe. I don't know how much gel one pump of Tostran contains.
With the seringe it's easier to get just a pea-size blob so it doesn't matter how much you put in. If you can fit a whole pump in the seringe then you don' t have to fill it as often. And you will have a a more accurate Idea how much a pea- size blob is approximatly by looking at the measurments on the seringe. If you need to change your dose at any time you can use those measurments.
I think you just have to give it a bit more time before you lower your Estrogel. It's possible that symptoms can get worse before getting better. And changing to much doesn't make it any better. But I understand how difficult this is....
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hi alicess
i'd rather take daily as with the other stuff as i tried progesterone alternate and didn't suit and knowing my body tesosterone will be the same i need consistency i has no issues with the pill as this was the same daily dose except for the bleed break the flushes i can cope with it's the armpit and groin sweating i the heat it's worse . and my boobs got so bloody big
i've contacted gp so will await her to call
so i would put a pump in seringe and keep seringe in fridge does the medication need to be stored in fridge then ? and then i guess you would squeeze out a couple of mill so the seringe i have starts at 1ml and then goes. 1.5 2 2.5 etc but with trostan one pump is o.5g given 10mg testosterone so i've put one pump in seringe to see and comes to not even 0.5 ml so that isn't going to work ! but could mark half pump on pump which is what i do with my gel to get 2.5 pumps and apply this daily i don't know i speak to my doctor. x
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I was on a testosterone in 2015 and as a direct result my hair started to fall out
I have since been diagnosed as having androgenic alopecia (male pattern balding). Now off testosterone.
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It doesn't matter what the seringe says a first, you can't compare dose like that. Don't start with a couple of ml. As the others also said just start by squeezing a pea- size blob. 10 mg testosterone to start with is too much. As I said Dr. Stubbs prescribes 3 mg for women to start with. I don't know if it's necessary to keep it in the frigde but I do it just to be sure.
I defenitly prefer the pill too but as you said you're not allowed because you smoke.
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annie0710
are u still on the estrogel ? how many pumps
do u take one pump of trostan every other day ?
did u get hair shedding on the gel prior to taking tesosterone and has tesosterone improved this x
Yes I use 3 pumps oestrogel
I use Tostran maybe 3x week, I say this because I always forget a couple days of hrt per week lately, for example since last Wednesday I missed Saturday and Monday and Tuesday, 2 of those days would've been Tostran. I've become quite useless with my routine if hrt
My hair shedding started when I was on patches. Testosterone hasn't made it worse but has improved the manageability of it x
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hi alice's
i?m not sure that the testosterone is the cause of increased sweating though because i was sweating more in armpits and groin when i increased my gel from 2 pumps to 2.5 and as my levels were 435 pmol my doctor said not necessary to increase the gel but i was feeling like i has to much progesterone but since upping the gel week and half ago i've got more sweating and at night sweaty back which i had off hrt so at night i feel like i did off hrt and my boobs won't stop growing they hurt .
out of the trostan i can't measure a pea size blob because i won't get the same amount each time and tried to but it in seringe but just got stuck to the side as it's not that much gel .
which was why i was thinking half pump but everyday i know it would give me same dose but be less at once and more consistent but i suppose overall will make no difference
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hi annie0710
has your shedding now improved since you have added tesosterone to the gel ?
i was on 2.5 pumps but started getting sore boobs and bloated tummy and increase flushes for some reason so have dropped back to 2 pumps and have a level of 435 pmol on this .
i also take progesterone 100mg daily cause i couldn't cope on estrogen alone bad aniexty moods depression irratic and loads of hair shedding has improved a little with progesterone .
when i take the tesosterone i am feeling s little nausea on it and tight ankles did u notice any increase in sweating when you started tesosterone i think personally it was the increase in gel so have reduced to 2 pumps and taking tesosterone every other day but to early to tell my menopause said i can also take half pumps daily as would be same dose but may suit me better as not as much in one go x so shall have to see
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Shedding naturally improved I think but about 4-6 weeks before lockdown j started shedding again and hopefully just coming to the end of it
I didn't notice any increased sweating on any regime I've done x
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annie0710
i've reduced the gel back to 2 pumps i?m less bloated and don trace as much armpit sweating i also find my hair getting increasingly greasy very quick even without testosterone and the more i up the gel the worse it is however not sure i can cope with watery discharge and may have to stop progesterone or go up in estrogel i just couldn't cope on it without progesterone ! i've noticed though her is causing my hairline to recede so may just stop it it's so hard to make a decision because menopause day up to me basically do what i want with the hormones i don't need progesterone as had hysterectomy but mood wise couldn't cope on estrogel plus my hair was shedding loads and loads . it's tuff knowing what to do for the best
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it's really hard as what works for one person may not for the next person.
I don't need progesterone either but do tolerate it well. But I don't use it.
Re hair shedding I do think genetics play a large part too and my mums hair went thin after menopause x
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annie0710
i was hrt free for 4 yrs since my operation and had no hair shedding and got thicker not thinner i think i?m going to stop hurt because i can't get settled on this regime and to be honest i shouldn't need progesterone but i've lost that much hair underneath my scalp is getting sore the only bonus is hair isn't as dry but lost so much even between sept last year and now x