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General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: Chihuahuachick on May 15, 2020, 08:47:03 PM
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My next door neighbour is a covid rule breaker. She has repeatedly had her family round week after week, bbq, kids paddling pool and now a hot tub has appeared.
Just sick of her loud voice, never speaks, always shouts.
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It amazes me that the Police stop people when they are driving, even legally but don't pick up these oddments of those flouting the rules: as well as not seeing the 14 puppies/dogs stolen from Upwell on Sunday :'( nor the robberies that continue across the UK. None of which are essential journeys?
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People like that make me so annoyed, if you watched the hospital programme this week on BBC 2, so so sad seeing these fantastic NHS workers and what they go through, it was an amazing programme , I was in tears, it really opens your eyes to what these people are doing for the public. Sorry but because they continually break the rules I'd report them, sorry but I really don't have time for the ignorance of these people. My husband & my mum are both 12 week isolaters & I am so so careful. I got shopping for my mum & left it on her doorstep, she was waving through the window at me, when I got back to my car that's when she came out & got it. As I said I'd report them :steamed:
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My sons friend who was 22 very sadly passed away from this terrible virus, as did a husband & wife I know (2 weeks apart). May they rip :ange:
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Exactly.
People are dying, there is no cure, don't people understand how serious this is.
But the police don't care.
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So sorry to hear about the people lost to the virus Penguin. And it's very responsible of you to be abiding by the rules.
I have reported this vile woman 5 times to the police and twice to my MP. Nothing has happened.
I have done as much as I can now. I just don't understand how people can be so irresponsible.
I know I won't sleep tonight after the abusive way the landlord spoke to me.
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I'm sorry to hear you have such awful neighbours. Have you tried contacting your local council environmental health department? I would tell them you have reported it 5 times to the police & twice to the mp.
Like you, I cannot understand the mentality of some people, why people think they are invincible ( which clearly they do) and think it won't affect them and that the law is for everyone else except them. What part of death don't they understand?
I am constantly washing towels, my husband has his own of everything, he even keeps his toothbrush in a bag in our bedroom, unfortunately we don't have 2 bathrooms but if I did one would be solely for him. This virus terrifies me. I'm always cleaning door handles, light switches, remotes, telephones etc.
I hope someone will listen to you and take action.
Stay safe xx
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I got shopping for my mum & left it on her doorstep, she was waving through the window at me, when I got back to my car that's when she came out & got it. As I said I'd report them :steamed:
Exactly how I am with my mum. Dropped off shopping today, she waits for me to get in the car and then comes out, waves, we pull a few funny faces, etc, then she takes the shopping in. These people are putting others at risk as well as themselves.
Penguin, I'm modifying this post because I've just seen what you've posted about those people who've passed due to the virus, so sorry to hear this.
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Thank you for taking the time to write to me and for being understanding.
I have felt so alone tonight. Like I'm the one thst has done wrong and I have stuck to the rules.
I have had a fitting for my artificial eye cancelled and I am living with wearing an eye that is not fitting correctly. So I am feeling the strain of this virus, not to mention feeling for the people affected by this terrible time.
I am just grateful for being able to self isolate, the NHS workers must be so frightened to go to work.
I don't even get a reply from the MP now! I get Insta posts stating how the MP is there for the constituents and please email if there are any issues!!!! Well what is more of an issue than a constant covid rule breaker?
Ever since lockdown the vile woman's boyfriend has been coming and going and they both work in supermarkets!!!!
I just have run out of the energy to deal with it.
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I have felt so alone tonight. Like I'm the one thst has done wrong and I have stuck to the rules.
Bless you, you have done nothing wrong, you are, like me, abiding by the rules and keeping people safe. I just wish people realised if they stick to the rules we'd get out of this a lot quicker.
I hope you get your eye sorted soon. I have had my knee op cancelled & hubby is waiting for an injection in his spine. We don't complain about this but it means we all have to wait longer because of people not abiding the rules and passing this awful virus on to others. This virus really upsets me, I don't think there's a day that goes by that I don't cry :'( it's just so awful. I blame the tears on the menopause ;D
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Thank you so.much Penguine99.
Reading your message is the best I have felt all night.
Sorry to hear you and hubby are waiting for your treatment. I hope you get sorted out soon.
You are so right, don't people understand that the sooner we abide by the rules the better.
Oh I don't know Penguine99, I just don't get people, I really don't.
I am in the perimenopause stage and have been for 6 years. I have suffered from chronic reflux for 18 months. I have now managed to get off all my tablets and my gaviscon. I am so relieved. Plus my psoriasis has settled and my IBS.
I know how these symptoms can grip us.
I feel for you finding the situation so upsetting on a daily basis. I know how impossible it is to master these feelings. I find positive affirmations have helped me so much.
I will probably sleep tonight thanks to you.
I hope you stay happy and well. XxxxX❤❤
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My sons friend who was 22 very sadly passed away from this terrible virus, as did a husband & wife I know (2 weeks apart). May they rip :ange:
Really sorry to hear this Penguin99.
I also watched the two Hospital programmes. Found them very moving and wanted to cry myself.
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I'm still awake at 3 am. Doesn't surprise me, I know I don't sleep when I am upset.
I will be ok tomorrow.
I hope everyone else is having a restful night.
XxxxX❤❤❤❤❤❤
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My sons friend who was 22 very sadly passed away from this terrible virus, as did a husband & wife I know (2 weeks apart). May they rip :ange:
Really sorry to hear this Penguin99.
I also watched the two Hospital programmes. Found them very moving and wanted to cry myself.
Don't watch them Katejo. They are not good for people's mental health. There is a saturation of Covid related programmes, at the moment, and it's just too much. Even unrelated programmes seem to include something about the virus. I'm forever turning off or changing channels.
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My next door neighbour is a covid rule breaker. She has repeatedly had her family round week after week, bbq, kids paddling pool and now a hot tub has appeared.
Just sick of her loud voice, never speaks, always shouts.
Neighbours don't have to have people round to be noisy. Our neighbour does some sort of exercise class online every day, at 2pm, for an hour. She does it in the garden with her device on speaker phone and it's bloody annoying. She also spent 5 days pressure washing her patio. That even got my husband worked up and he is very patient.
Not sure about reporting breaches. Not only because I don't think it works but it just doesn't sit right with me.
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Brings to mind 1932 onwards :-\ .......... and unless everyone is watching every one else, we can't know if the Police have visited/not. We have traffic along our cul-de-sac all day long, I might lift my head as I'm expecting a delivery.
Your MP at least should have replied, they are, after all, working from home with probably not much to do ::). I HATE noise. [we have a thread about that too]
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The MP did reply once only to tell me that the authorities are busy and did I throughly know the circumstances! Well as they are my next t door neighbour, then yes I do.
The MP hasn't replied when I emailed and the problem had escalated. Waste of time.
Eff em all now, they can get on with it. I've done my bit and reported it.
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Hi, Under normal circumstances it doesn't bother me what people do, but this is killing people. Some people are not bothered whether they get it or not, others, like myself, have vulnerable people to protect. It just amazes me how some people are so ignorant. Some have said they will be ok because they have no underlying conditions, but some people don't know they have conditions and it's unfortunately too late when they find out. :-\
As you can tell I feel very strongly about this & I wouldn't hesitate to report someone if they were behaving the way chihuahuachicks neighbours are. I have seen people with visitors where I live but nothing like what she is experiencing.
I just hope that this awful virus will be over with soon, unfortunately it will take a while, and longer when people just do as they please.
Chihuahuachick : I'm sorry you didn't sleep very well last night, it's hard to ignore something when it annoys / upsets you so much. Just keep looking after yourself. :foryou:
Stay safe everyone
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Each to their own Penguin.
How I see it is that it's not always easy to assess the situation correctly. The police certainly don't get it right and people, including key worker, have been wrongful accused.
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Hi, I absolutely agree that workers have been wrongfully accused ( I'm a key worker). I've never experienced this feeling before, I can't help but feel so strongly about it, I don't normally tend to let things get to me but this really has :-\
I just wish this was all over, so many people dying, so sad :'(
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Reporting neighbours killed others in the 1930s onwards :-\. :'( which is why reporting doesn't sit easily. We are not here to Police others, we pay 'them' to do that. Once the authorities have been told ....... they may already be on a Police 'alert list'!
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Penguine99, thank you for your continued support on this.
I have had so much trouble from this landlords tenants over the last 8 years. They are horrible.
But I have to just draw a line under it all now. Let them get on with it.
This woman moved out once, she did damage to the house. And they let her back in after another weird tennant!
The landlord gets people in that he knows!!!! They are like him, not very nice!
It just goes to show what the world has come to. Nobody cares even with a killer virus around.
I shall carry on being a good neighbour. Sweeping up the parking area/s and tidying up outside. It's great exercise and keeps the place looking nice.
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Keeping a distance and hand washing with hot water and plenty of soap works. Make sure that you take care of you ! :tulips2: ......... if you see them headed in your direction, go indoors ;-)
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My sister is a key worker and has been issued with a card to carry and one for her car.
The people you describe are COVIDIOTS. Theres plenty round here. Went shopping Monday and the pavements were full. Distancing impossible. Standing around in groups. I saw ppl hugging "havent seen you for ages" etc..I saw a young girl lift an elderly man's mask and kiss him!!!! I couldnt believe my eyes. !!!
The rule breakers have got away with it purely because the majority of us have kept to the rules..they havent spread it because most of us have been indoors. Now more ppl.are out and about these idiots are going to make it a dangerous place for everyone else. >:(.
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Seems they have no idea! We've got this far and should continue to distance ? Trying to explain to my Mum though is proving difficult :-\
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:bighug: clkd. I wish I had the answer to that. Xxxxx
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:rofl: the Carer told me earlier today that all the residents have had C-19 explained to them ............ ::)
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I object to funerals being made a scape goat for C-19. But mourners are still being charged the full whack! It's Council driven, not allowing cremations - some are taking the coffins directly into the ovens, not allowing them to go into the crematorium itself! WTF. However, one Director has over 400 deceased waiting for when lockdown allows proper services again.
If people keep apart from each other, what's the harm?
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His trip, which involved flying via the US and driving from London, has been criticised by the SNP's Westminster leader Ian Blackford, who is the MP for the island, and Skye's MSP Kate Forbes.
English-born Gaiman said he had "panicked" at the thought of being stuck in New Zealand while all his upcoming work was in the UK. He said he followed advice on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office's website for UK nationals to return home from abroad "where and while commercial routes" were available.
However, he said police on Skye said he should have stayed where he was safe in New Zealand. Gaiman said: "I agreed that yes, all things considered, I should."
So questions should be asked in Parliament? How did this guy a) leave NZ on a plane without being asked the reason for his journey? b) how did he enter and leave the US? c) why wasn't he checked through UK to make sure his journey was essential? d) how was he not stopped between London and Skye :argue:
Last week a man was fined for travelling from Glasgow to Stoke to buy a puppy ....... go figure >:(
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I absolutely feel devastated when I see people breaking the rules as I do everyday from my house. It is making me so mad. People having friends round and bending rules all the time.
My daughter is a vet and the other is a wholefood shop manager and together they are on the front line of this outbreak risking their lives everyday. The same people who break the rules in my street clap for the NHS on Thursdays. Meanwhile those of us who follow the rules are lonely but are actually seeing the bigger picture, the one that saves lives.
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Vets aren't working except for emergencies, some in Wales are applying to the Government :-X. My friend can't get her puppy jabbed because it's not an emergency >:(. So he can't go to socialise ........ but we are told that they have to be jabbed!
We don't know if people are breaking rules. We went to a store today and the Staff weren't moving out of the way! but we managed to keep a distance. I have always objected that the shelves are re-filled in the day time. They block up the aisles at the best of times. DH tried to get items but the member of staff was shopping with a list for someone 'shielding/isolating'. Again, that should be done after hours? No gloves, no masks seen today.
We also upset the guard on the door, as we were chatting to each other in the queue :o. We have a list each, DH buys fruit, veg and anything he requires to keep me fed, I do the cake, shampoo, laundry powder etc.. She 'warned' us both not to be seen shopping together. Wasn't interested in finding out why and how, "We get told that people are in families all the while, we turned people away earlier". Calling me a liar then!?! so I told her that we can go to Tesco ...... we have done most of our shopping in the village apart from hi-end items.
There is no 1-way system in the store. I think there was initially :-\ ........ but can't remember that far back :D I finished first today ;D. But the guard wasn't there >:( ::).
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Could it be possible that Dominic Cummings will finally get his 'come upance'.
Who knows??
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It's a bit of a worry who found out though :-\ ......... Big Brother! I think he should have resigned as soon as the story hit the headlines!
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Did you see the guy on the news,who was being interviewed by a reporter and was saying,oh I think we should be much stricter in this country like Spain and he was standing there with a bottle of beer in his hand with all his mates at a crowded beach ;D
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It's a bit of a worry who found out though :-\ ......... Big Brother! I think he should have resigned as soon as the story hit the headlines!
He was seen by his families neighbours.
What is particularly insulting is that his wife, wrote about their covid experiences, and gave the distinct impression that they were in London at the time.
Cheeky buggers.
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Always 1 Rule for them ..........
It will be interesting to see whether F1 push the current Government into letting them into the UK without having to isolate for 2 weeks. This morning's news says 'no' but Silverstone Management are whittering on and on and ........... the F1 community want to by-pass the isolation period and are trying to make all kinds of promises about isolating Teams, keeping Teams apart, using separate coaches 4 each Team - but as far as I can see, many UK Coach companies are out of business anyway! One to watch ;-)
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Could it be possible that Dominic Cummings will finally get his 'come upance'.
Who knows??
I very much doubt it. No 10 says he has done nothing wrong :(
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If you read the story on the web-news pages, it would appear that he hasn't contravened those rules at the time. But the National Press jumped on what might not be a headline after all ::)
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I don't think that's true.
For a start if you have the virus you are not supposed to leave home.
It will be very interesting to see if any members of the public have been find/spoken too, for the same thing.
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What isn't true :-\ ....... I'm easy to confuse, tha knows :D
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What isn't true :-\ ....... I'm easy to confuse, tha knows :D
Not true that DC hadn't contravened rules. Although he was already ill with Covid, he had still left home and travelled over 200 miles...... and had then come into contact with his other family members in Durham.
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Apparently according to the statement yesterday, it was his wife that was ill ..........
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He has a 4 year old child who obviously can't look after itself if he became ill too. I think it depends what support he would have for the child in London. If it was me I would do what's best for the child.
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Lots of other people in the same situation though. I wonder how many of them got away with breaking the rules??
My husband and I both had horrendous flu when my eldest son was a one year old. We just had to get on with it.
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Hello ladies
This story is going to need a mighty amount of spin! Even the 'mercy dash' angle to look after a four year old child felt apart when it was revealed that he has family in London who could have helped him.
Take care ladies.
K.
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I was going to post a response but it's flown out the window :o OH I remember - I understand that childrens' playgrounds in Parks remain out of bounds. Some bright spark in our village took down the notifications on Friday evening and hid the red/white tape which was around the play equipment and there have been lots of kids playing 'normally'. Everyone moaning on FB but no one 'phoned the Police :-\ ........ I don't have a problem if equipment is wiped down after use but in this 'some one else will clear up' Era ........
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Problem now is that people just won't care, if the government get away with it then why should everyone else bother? However I will still bother I have vulnerable relatives to protect. Personally I think DC should be sacked, its disgraceful. Stay at home meant stay at home!
I've noticed far more people passing by today and I live in a very quiet cul de sac ( close to aonb) and saw on the news people saying they won't bother sticking to it anymore. We've come so far and it could all be for nothing :(
I also don't think schools should be opening yet, parents mixing at the school gates >:(
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It won't be for nothing. Most of us have thus far been good at being aware of the dangers - it was all about keeping hospitals open for seriously ill emergency patients. Which is why the media kept on so that the public didn't think that the NHS was open. To keep Medical Staff 'safe' and for hospitals not to be over-whelmed. Hopefully things will be learned across the UK about what could have been done to keep the public safer.
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I so hope it won't be for nothing. When I come home from shopping, i tell my husband not to touch anything, I see to it all, then when I'm done I wash all door handles with bleach & water, I clean my steering wheel, gear stick, handbrake etc. I'm so terrified i will bring it home to one of my family. Like i said before, i unfortunately know people that have died because of this and it just upsets me so much how people can be so ignorant. People have this thing that it won't happen to them, it doesn't discriminate.
Thankfully there are more good people than bad in this world :)
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Until we can be clear as to how this Virus sticks to surfaces and for how long B4 being wiped, it will be difficult to be sure about how safe our environment might be. So 'in case' is surely better than 'can't be bothered'? I do the bin handles and letter box regularly.
However: our local playground has been infiltrated by children. The warning signage and tapes were ripped down Thursday and Friday and apparently, no social distancing took place. So the Committee spent almost all of Sat. putting fencing around the whole area at great cost - it will be interesting to see how many take down the fencing! Also nitrous oxide canisters all over the grounds, in the dykes, along the road side ...... but no one on the Committee wants to involve the Police :-\.
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Watching the BBC1 News - journalists not keeping distances whilst harassing Mr Cummins ............ let it rest. Let Boris sort it. But don't allow journalists to break the Law by getting closer than recommended when any MP etc. is leaving their property???? !!!!
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it's all ridiculous,they?re getting stuck into DC but they are all right in his face,they hypocrisy is laughable.
He did wrong and I agree,let Boris sort it
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I'm not being a grumpy old git then ......... as for journalists on the beach reporting: when did that become essential journeys?
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Boris isn't going to sort it though, if he has his way, is he? The bigger picture is we're being lied to, the real story kept from us and any respect we might have had for the pm has gone. Therefore he doesn't stand a hope in hell in reinforcing lockdown should that be necessary.Who will listen to him? So there'll be more spikes. Since when did the rules become friendly advice? Suddenly we've all become bad parents because we DIDN'T sit in a car for 4 hours with infection to protect our children.A community group 5 mins from Cummings house has tweeted they have volunteer services for exactly these reasons that he could have gone to.Not one question did Boris answer ladt night.It was like Bruce Forsyth's conveyor belt the speed he moved them along. People will now follow their "instincts " and there will be many more deaths.What an insult to those who have died.
Absolutely agree.
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I know Teresa,they give you all this bs,oh he was doing it for his kid.....ehhhhh what about all the thousands of other parents who've stayed put regardless,it really does make me fume >:(
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Also - how does isolation tie in with a visit to Barnard Caslte where the streets are narrow ::) and up hill, down dale .
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What an entitled little twat he is. The last thing i would do if i thought my eyesight might be dodgy is drive.
Unfeckingbelievable!!!!
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More and more people are interpreting things their own way now it seems. I just hope enough of us are still complying to make a difference.
I've read loads of stuff online and just don't know what to believe any more. I've heard transmission in the community is decreasing and it's hospitals and carehomes that are worse for picking up the virus? Don't know if this is true.
I'm confused and feel very anxious still.
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At the very least his judgment on another planet.
And as for his boss.......... :-X
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That's certainly what I heard Teresa,maybe it was just a rule for us lesser mortals >:(
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Just to add my two penn'th, I think DC should do the decent thing and go. I also think most decent people will carry on following rules as they know what they need to do if we?re ever to get out of this nightmare situation ! However, I think the numbskulls who already break the rules will take this as a green light to carry on doing exactly what they want to do without any regard for their own or other people's safety !!
What I don't agree with is the way the journalists are hounding him, being right in his face outside his home and with people who think it's acceptable to threaten with violence. I thought we were supposed to be a civilised society ! Haven't we learnt anything from what happened to Princess Diana and we all know how that ended !!
Rosie x
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Those journalists probably weren't born when Diana died.
However: it is easy to break distancing ......... I forgot last night for 5 mins. and am filled with remorse :'(.
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I don't think you can catch it from standing too close to someone,the distancing is just in case someone sneezes or coughs over you
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Well apparently I'm a rule breaker. I sat on my daughter's lawn for an hour, several metres away from her and even further from my grandson who was bouncing on a space hopper. We went by car, after DH collected my prescription and did not go in the house. I don't see that's any different to keeping social distance if going for a walk. I've been advised to shield, but I do go for walks as I live where it is safe to do so. It is noticeable that my peak flow readings improve if I do walk. it's a matter of common sense and not putting yourself in danger or other people.
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I agree with Rosie. Whatever someone has done, the press should not be hounding like this. It was only a few months ago that poor Caroline Flack took her own life. Everyone has a breaking point. :(
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Hey Teresa,I?ll come see you and you can shout out your window at me ;D possibly saying...if you don't b@#ger offf I'm calling the police ;D
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Hello ladies
After seeing pictures of the beaches etc we can expect a rise in COVID cases in the next few weeks.
I will continue to social distance until I feel it is safe to do otherwise and only listen to the opinions of people I respect.
Take care everyone.
K.
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The greatest risk is said to be from enclosed indoor spaces and family groups. The transmission in outside spaces is very low. Therefore you are more at risk doing a supermarket shop than the beach.
We went to Rye Harbour yesterday. The car park was only a quarter full. We had a picnic on the beach, where there were only a few scattered families, and a walk around the nature reserve. I don't think we came within 5 metres of anyone, let alone 2. To be honest it was safer than our local walk.
Just thought I'd add the link for anyone who may want to visit, in the future. It's a lovey place.
https://sussexwildlifetrust.org.uk/visit/rye-harbour
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I'm really getting stir crazy now, the only time I've left the house in 10 weeks is to go for short walks from the house or shopping :-\ I have to wait until Friday to see if any restrictions are lifted. Our parks are still locked and the car park at the beach is closed with barriers. What the government here needs to realise is that if we dont get any freedom soon people will take it into their own hands, the roads are very busy again unlike in April :(
Thank god I have a garden :)
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Hello again ladies.
I think people are getting very upset and frustrated now which is understandable.
I read a story about the Spanish Flu epidemic in America. In San Francisco everyone was told to Lockdown but after six weeks people started to leave their homes regardless of the dangers because they were so tired of feeling trapped in their homes.
Hopefully the easing of our Lockdown will go well and we can all start to feel better about the future.
Wishing everyone well.
K.
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You haven't got a gun have you Teresa ;D ;D
Yep TH I've done the same,my once a week shop and go the same walk every day for weeks,it's becoming tedious now but what can you do :(
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I can moan on here ;D Jaypo
The countries that have eased lockdown already are not seeing any second surge in cases at the moment, hope its a good sign and same trend happens here :)
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I can moan on here ;D Jaypo
The countries that have eased lockdown already are not seeing any second surge in cases at the moment, hope its a good sign and same trend happens here :)
Yes, that is promising TH.
Just had a call from our dentist. We had hygiene and dentist appointments for early June which have now been cancelled.
Re-booked for OCTOBER. :o
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< creeping in > :-[
I stood too close to our neighbours on Monday evening :-\. Simply forgot about distancing. I wasn't worried about exchanging of germs [although if anyone coughed or said they felt sick, I would be running for the hills]. But the fact that I didn't stick to the Rules. I felt a complete hypocrite ......... but the neighbour hadn't even realised, when I apologised this morning.
I've been wearing a hair shirt since.
Those photos of the beaches were probably staged, i.e. shot with a long lens which would make people appear closer. Certainly the live web cams around the coast haven't shown such closeness.
We love Rye ;)
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Its only happened to me once, in Tesco a man shoved his way through, going the wrong way up the isle. It was quite disturbing that he had no idea of keeping away from people, I do feel supermarkets need staff inside to keep more order its become a free for all now >:(
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You can't catch it by just standing next to somebody,they have to either touch you,cough or sneeze over you
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Non of that happened ........ we've all been healthy down here thus far but I feel guilty about breaking a rule meant to protect people. I simply forgot. It's easier keeping distance from strangers I've found :-\
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Don't beat yourself up clkd,you?ll not have put anyone in danger :)
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We can now meet with people from another household ........ doesn't say that we have to know those people ;D (6 or less). What happens when they need the loo :o
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I could hire out our Porta Potty and tent 8)
I don't know 6 people that I would want to spend much time with ;) ........... you won't be alone 'cos were are on here !
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Me me meeeeeeee ;D
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I've just had a message from my younger sister, she tells me that her son is at his girlfriends tonight, then back home for a birthday BBQ tomorrow!!
If it were not for this forum, I would be thinking our house is the only one following the rules. My daughter hasn't seen her boyfriend since the start of lockdown, and I have only seen my bf twice, for socially distanced hiking, since they relaxed the rules a couple of weeks ago.
Jeepers xx
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Lots of hot, soapy water required then Jeepers. Not a difficult thing to provide for everyone, plus wiping down handles, taps etc. once they have celebrated - whose birthday ?
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Hello ladies.
My daughter and her partner live in Edinburgh and she sent a picture of them in a park enjoying glorious sunshine. She said this was allowed as the Lockdown rules in Scotland have been eased. As a senior civil servant it wouldn't do for her to be seen flouting the rules.
Would that some English government employees thought the same!
Lots more businesses now open where I live and more people out and about today. Fingers crossed that COVID numbers don't skyrocket and we all have to lock ourselves away again.
Take care everyone.
K.
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Jeepers the only thing I'm hanging onto is that the majority of people are following guidelines and that it's enough to prevent things spiralling. We can not control what other people do and when it's family it seems to hit home harder. My dd is a prime example!
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Boris is relaxing the rules yet people are still in their 12 week isolation periods :steamed: my husband still has 5 weeks to go, so we won't be going anywhere or having anyone round.
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Ha ha CLKD, l also don't know 6 people I want to spend much time with!
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Don't all rush at once ;) ........ if we buy clothes we can't go out with anyone to show it off ::).
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Penguin yes it's like another world for us when everyone's talking about picnics and barbeques!
It's so scary, we're trying to shield / protect, and some people thinks it's over. There's still a fair few deaths :'(. I dread it when Boris is going to make a statement. I went shopping the other night and the reduced trolley came out, I have never seen anything like it in my life, they came from nowhere and it was everyman for himself, honestly it was like feeding piranhas! :bang:
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That's the fault of the Store Penguin .......... it's up to the Managers to control herd mentality. A note to the MD maybe?
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Yep, I agree,I'd write to them penguin
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It's what I have always said. The biggest danger is in the supermarket. That's why I abandoned Waitrose, at the beginning of lock down, because they were very slow to put good systems in place. Much better now though.
It's also why I am comfortable being out and out in the fresh air. Much safer and so good for mental health.
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I still regularly see children fully sitting in shopping trolleys (not in the part meant for toddler) and the supermarket staff don't say anything. I know the staff need say so from above but why is it allowed especially with the virus.
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Children in supermarkets have always been a problem. Allowing them to to ride scooters in store particularly bugs me.
The worst though is the tongs for cakes etc., I stopped using them when I twice saw parents allowing their babies/toddlers to suck them. Uck. >:(
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Apparently the Staff get abuse if they ask parents 'not to ...... ' so I to in all guns blazing. I had it out with a parent several years ago whose child was standing in a trolley. Warned her that many children fall from trolleys across the UK and not all go home, many end up in coffins or worse. A while later she came up and told me 'sorry, I've thought about what you said' so I explained that I worked for a head injury consultant.
I as a Manager would ask shoppers to leave mobiles, scooters, kids, dogs, buggies outside ;D
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I'd add husbands to that list.
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The worst though is the tongs for cakes etc., I stopped using them when I twice saw parents allowing their babies/toddlers to suck them. Uck. >:(
Thanks for the warning. Normally nothing surprises me but this one did. Bleugh!
JP x
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I'd add wives to the list. Husband can do the shopping😁
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:rofl: ........ however: we break rules in Waitrose by shopping as a pair though not together :D 1 list and a trolley each :whist:.
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There was a manager saying please remember to distance, but people were just grabbing stuff and putting it in their baskets, then they would go through what they'd got & put back what they didn't want, shocking! I was listening to the radio earlier and there was a leading scientist saying please still be careful the uk government easing it too soon :sigh:
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Shoppers are asked to take and stick to a list. DH was picking stuff up and putting back in a garden centre yesterday ....... >:( :kick: even with a list.
I think that the staff should fetch items off the shelves that they are selecting for isolators etc. after store is shut!
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I also think that shopping deliveries should be for the vulnerable & isolaters too. We had a call from the shielding team asking if my husband needed shopping, meds etc, I said I can do it, please give the help to someone who needs it and doesn't have anyone to do it for them.
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Better that someone contacts the public in case they require assistance. Peoples' situations alter on a daily basis and it would be dreadful for anyone to be missed.
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That's the fault of the Store Penguin
I feel deprived, we don't have Store Penguin. Not enough fish here? :)
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Thing is with some stuff I NEED to look at the ingredients,which means I have to pick things up,that goes for a lot of people these days with so many allergies
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;D ............
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Hello again ladies.
Yesterday there were many more shops open where I live but I'm not sure I want to risk going into them just yet.
Shadyglade - unlike you I have always felt comfortable in the supermarkets even Waitrose! I think it's because they are large and airy with high ceilings. Occasionally some shoppers wander closer than they should but most people are following the rules. I accidentally walked the wrong way up an aisle in Tescos and I was swiftly told off lol.
The independent sage scientists are saying it's too early to ease the lockdown and they should know.
Take care ladies and stay safe.
K.
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I think that clothes shops could have an assistant to handle clothing until one finds something one wants to fit on? Any clothing will be put to one side for 72 hours B4 going back onto the rails which in my opinion are always too full anyway. MayB 1 item of each design on show, the rest in the back in various sizes?
I don't buy in clothes shops in case I get a panic attack. Cotton Traders is my go to.
Where will we be able to wear new clothes anyway, no one will know if it's years old or this year's fashions ::)
Locally Waitrose have been very strict at the door, allowing certain numbers into the store by using a clicker. We upset the guard last week ...... by talking to each other in the queue, I was told that 'we have been turning people away from the same families' ............ go on Mrs, TRY IT ;D
Haven't been to Tesco as there is no shade whilst queuing and our village shop maintains a queue and distancing. Job Done.
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I've just read an article..not sure how accurate it is..that's says you won't be allowed to try clothes on any more in the shops.Anything brought back will have to be put to one side for 72 hours.
40% off clothing in a local garden centre - I asked if it was ok to try on and it was. Bought two summer tops and my day felt almost normal :)
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It's all a muddle.
I don't think they have formalised how shop will work. What about book shops???
As for having family round we will be waiting a couple of weeks, to see how things go. My eldest son and his partner live in a top floor flat, and have been dropping hints about a barbecue. A couple of weeks won't hurt though.
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Our M & S are selling clothes and taking returns as normal, I think Tesco are as well and both have sales on at the moment.
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My friend runs a book shop and she is wiping down books - anyone who browses leaves the touched items in a basket and at the end of the day she wipes over. Next morning they can be replaced on the shelves.
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My friend runs a book shop and she is wiping down books - anyone who browses leaves the touched items in a basket and at the end of the day she wipes over. Next morning they can be replaced on the shelves.
How come??
They are not supposed to be open yet.
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Book shops are essential ......... she's been open for sending books to customers all year.
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My friend runs a book shop and she is wiping down books - anyone who browses leaves the touched items in a basket and at the end of the day she wipes over. Next morning they can be replaced on the shelves.
Book shops are essential ......... she's been open for sending books to customers all year.
Book shops were legally obliged to close as non-essential retail whatever our views on this! All online deliveries though were (are) permitted to continue so if she was open to browsing customers since 23rd March this was illegal. Maybe she was doing this before 23rd March or wiping them down before she sends them?
Hurdity x
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Books shops were classed as essential. She has always run an on-line order facility so can take books off the shelves to post out. She regularly updates her stock which is supplied by a supplier under guidance. I don't suppose that she's the only book shop not providing a service?
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Thank you
Sorry to hear you and hubby are waiting for your treatment. I hope you get sorted out soon.
You are so right, don't people understand that the sooner we abide by the rules the better.
Oh I don't know Penguine99, I just don't get people, I really don't.
I am in the perimenopause stage and have been for 6 years. I have suffered from chronic reflux for 18 months. I have now managed to get off all my tablets and my gaviscon. I am so relieved. Plus my psoriasis has settled and my IBS.
I know how these symptoms can grip us.
I feel for you finding the situation so upsetting on a daily basis. I know how impossible it is to master these feelings. I find positive affirmations have helped me so much.
I will probably sleep tonight thanks to you.
I hope you stay happy and well. XxxxX❤❤
Hi ChihuahuaChick,
I feel your pain with reflux, and im glad you have managed to kick it.
I am currently suffering with reflux, I have the feeling of food sitting in my throat and chest and sometimes it even pops up. It's really stressing me badly at the moment. I have had it on and off for years now, and had a hiatus hernia diagnosed, but seems bad at the moment. I take a high dose of omeprazole too. The worst thing is not knowing if its anxiety or a real problem, I know I should talk to the doc but too scared as I think my anxiety is mostly linked to health. Times are scary for all if us right now, and I have the added problem of being a hairdresser (not wanting to go near people at all right now), whilst going through a house move that started well before xmas!
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Hello again ladies
CLKD - book shops were non essential retail here in the UK. I think in Austria they could stay open but not here. Online trade is considered safe but wandering around a book shop and touching lots of books seems very risky.
K.
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Jackie M - go back to your GP pronto! If the medication isn't easing symptoms - it did for me within 5 days - then you probably need something else. This particular medication is known for bounce back symptoms of reflux: 4 me it's a feeling of liquid in the mouth, nausea, pain in the neck and chest ........... hiatus hernia is common during The Change: as oestrogen levels drop muscles may become lax .... including the digestive tract.
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Our next door neighbours have broken the rules from nearly the word go.
They've all been in the big paddling pool with the kids.
They should've seen my OH when he was ill, maybe that would've stopped them, ....then again maybe not, they knew all along he was in hospital. 🤷♀️
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The supermarket was well quiet this morning with few allowed in at a time. Would love it like that all the while but can you imagine the queues B4 C.mas ;D - bit like outside IKEA yesterday :o
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There will always be people who think they?re above the rules Jill and they are the ones who get off Scott free,had they actually SEEN your OH they might not have been so keen to take the p >:(
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I know, on their heads be it. As they say. 🤷♀️
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Hello again ladies
CLKD - book shops were non essential retail here in the UK. I think in Austria they could stay open but not here. Online trade is considered safe but wandering around a book shop and touching lots of books seems very risky.
K.
Exactly. As I said. They were closed on 23rd June to the public, and will probably be permitted to open on 15th June along with other non-essential retail.
Hurdity x
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People got angry about the above: I was slammed because I believed it right for my local Pubs to provide a book-take out food service which had been given the go-ahead by our local Council: but taking down UK statues by force seems to go the other way - defacing public property: there's no logic sometimes ::).
The marches are breaking the Law ...... and nowt much is being done to stop people ignoring social distancing to get a point over. Now that point has been made the Police should be stopping it - the one in London 'has to end by 5.00 p.m.' - that will be a red rag to a bull, surely :-\. I watch with interest.
It would be better for those organising the protests to get together and present a Plan of Campaign to No 10.
I have checked with my friend and her book shop has been open for business, on line, since mid-March. Job Done.
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Hello again ladies.
As most people realise 'open' referred to a shop physically allowing the public to enter the premises. We were never advised to stop shopping in other ways.
Take care everyone.
K.
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Yes I've been wondering about libraries,. I haven't heard anything about when they might open. I assume it will be July 4 when further things are eased, but goodness knows how it will work. And all those computers there and their dirty keyboards. They were dodgy at the best of times, people eating with their fingers at the computer. Yuk!
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It fascinates me - people are keeping to guidelines but have you seen anyone wiping the hand sanitiser bottles and tops B4 using them after the last person to do so, or wiping the keypads at ATMs, or the handles at the pumps when getting fuel?
It fascinates me too that often full sentences aren't read correctly so comments are taken out of context ;)
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Footballers - might be playing behind closed doors but the press have photos of some linking arms etc..
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Apparently golfers, caddies etc. failed to appreciate the Health and Safety Risk Assessment during a Match in the US. If I were Sponsors and noticed any participants not keeping social distancing and not wiping down the flags after each hole ........... do these top sports people think that they are beyond Rules and Regulations? >:(
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Footballers/Managers hugging after the match last night >:(
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Never mind them,did you see Bournemouth the last few days :-\
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Hello ladies.
Certainly we all need to brace ourselves for the second spike of COVID and the pubs aren't open yet!
Teresa - Your drinking toast made me smile and reminded me of an old Scottish friend who used to say something similar. Happy days.
Take care everyone.
K.
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Morning Jaypo, sending you the hug I can't give you, my lovely :-*Lets crack open a cider later.I always say Heres to us.Who's like us? Damn few! :D
Morning Teresa :-* oh,why not,I'll be under your window in half an hour ;D I actually would ,if I was closer
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Look out for the slop bucket jaypo, might not be cider but cold tea ;)
3 stabbings in Bournemouth. But doesn't one think that a) people should take their litter home and b) that the LA should have anticipated the hoards + rubbish + fast food = leave it behind because the bins are full :-\. But travelling from Birmingham to Bournemouth ........ and the Guardian today has a whole holiday section about 'quiet beaches' >:( well they won't be quiet for long!
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Drives me mad seeing all these selfish people crowding and littering. It really makes me feel stressed and anxious after all the people that have died . :'(
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Drives me mad seeing all these selfish people crowding and littering. It really makes me feel stressed and anxious after all the people that have died . :'(
Personally more angry with the government. People locked up and then told.' off you go, anywhere so long as it's a day trip ', and guess what, they go out. I thought they were listening to the science. Obviously not psychologists.
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It's happening in our village. Mis-use of local Club Grounds - amyl nitrate canisters left behind - cans, dirty underwear .......... the lads have been approached and given advice but don't seem to get the fact that they need to take heed. Where are the parents?
For years people have had a 'someone else will pick up after me' attitude :-\.
What annoys me is the type of stuff left behind :o a buggy for example, did the Tax Payer fund that ....... to be left behind? Too much disposable income ........... also the attitude 'it won't happen to me' and they will expect NHS treatment if they do go down with C-19 :-\
Anything over 4 people is a crowd which the Police can move on and if they refuse, the Riot Act will be read. Why not apply these Laws :-\ - because we don't have enough Police to control situations.
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Perhaps everyone is going out to check their eye sight.
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Perhaps everyone is going out to check their eye sight.
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Hello ladies.
It's amazing to think that the very same disease that can kill many thousands and disrupt the economies in some countries can be controlled and contained in others. I suppose it all comes down to how the governments have responded and managed resources.
I will continue to social distance for the time being and hope that any resurgence of the virus isn't too awful.
Take care ladies.
K.
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My son lives in the USA, in Maine, where the virus hasn't taken much of a hold. They reacted appropriately and they have had lockdown. No one of is allowed in out of state, which is vital seeing what is going on elsewhere in the USA. My son, as a paramedic, has yet to deal with covid patients, though he has to put on ppe when responding to a call. I listen to a podcast by a journalist from the Washington post. it's shocking how appallingly badly it's been handled in some other states with no leadership from Trump. Biden is urging for free testing! What kind of system have they created, if you have to pay! Many can't afford to pay, especially as medical insurance is no longer available for some. I am grateful to live here. Our government has made some huge mistakes, but not comparable to to what's going on in the USA.
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Hello again ladies.
Unfortunately the death rate per head of population is greater here than in the US. In total America has the most cases followed by Brazil and then the UK.
As you all know in America a lot of people only get their health insurance through their employer, they can't afford it otherwise. I used to read a forum of people with Ulcerative Colitis who needed lots of medicines and treatment but had to work full time as well. Their stories of trying to manage their episodes of bloody diahorea , fatigue, weight loss etc whilst holding down a full time job was heart breaking. There were also tales of insurance companies refusing to agree to the treatments that their doctors said they needed. This is why I want to keep our NHS out of the clutches of the medical insurers.
Take care everyone.
K.
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The American figures are misleading though. Many state have had very few cases while other have been badly hit. Taking the 'per head of population figure's' don't really compare well too the UKs because America is such a vast country. It would be like using the whole of Europe as a comparison.
The main problem with the States is that Lockdown was not fully enforced. If fact it only encompassed 50% of the population and that is why their numbers are still rising rapidly, whilst ours are falling.
Do have a listing to 'MORE OR LESS', on BBC 4 on SOUNDS. It explains it far better than I can.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000kfpy
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Yes it also depends enormously on how that population is distributed so two areas with same population could have vastly differing covid rates ( ie incidence or deaths per head of population) depending if they are an urban (dense) or rural (dispersed) population.
I like that programme "more or less" but don't always remember to catch it! They always talk sense!
Hurdity x
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Hello again ladies.
Perhaps I was thinking about the numbers as deaths per hundred thousand? I've likely got it all wrong but I recall the article I read concluding that we are not doing much better than America.
Hopefully any spikes in COVID numbers will be dealt with efficiently from now on. Fingers crossed.
Take care ladies.
K.
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US has 52 states which all have their own rules and regulations. What comes out of America is probably not 2 B relied upon unless 1 has relatives living there.
Interesting to see what will happen once Pubs open tomorrow :-\
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With sturgeon up here being soooooo strict, I didn't know what to expect but everyone's acting just the same as in England,face masks are mandatory here in shops as from Monday (seems random) but when I went for groceries nobody was wearing them,not even the assistants
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Our village shop has hand wash outside but are not wiping down baskets any more :-\.
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Hello again ladies.
In the shops I use the assistants tell me they don't need masks as they all have screens to protect them. On television yesterday pub landlords were demonstrating their new table service and all the waiting staff were wearing masks.
I suppose it all depends on how exposed you feel in your daily life. I still haven't worn my mask while shopping but I have it on me should I feel I need it.
Take care everyone.
K.