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Title: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Joaniepat on March 17, 2020, 09:49:46 AM
Does anyone else think they have succumbed to this Coronavirus? I think I have.

Cough cough 🤧
JP x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on March 17, 2020, 10:00:57 AM
Oh dear JP.  Have you got a temperature or aches and pains. 

It could be the flu.  Both my husband and son have had streaming colds, but no cough or temperature.

Are on your own??
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Joaniepat on March 17, 2020, 10:42:23 AM
Hi Shadyglade, I have the dry cough, and temperature up a little today. Other symptoms are sore throat and runny nose. I do feel a bit steam-rollered! There's no way of knowing what this is, but if it's a cold it's a real humdinger.

I am on my own, but able to totter about and look after myself.

Thanks for asking.

JP x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on March 17, 2020, 11:15:11 AM
Does sound like a cold.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on March 17, 2020, 11:32:10 AM
Maybe have a look at your local Facebook grpup. There are people on ours volunteering to help those who can't go out. I hope it turns out just to be a sniffle but just in case...
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 17, 2020, 11:36:53 AM
Hi Shadyglade, I have the dry cough, and temperature up a little today. Other symptoms are sore throat and runny nose. I do feel a bit steam-rollered! There's no way of knowing what this is, but if it's a cold it's a real humdinger.

I am on my own, but able to totter about and look after myself.

Thanks for asking.

JP x
  Sounds more like a nasty cold.  Hope you feel better soon.

I don't yet know anyone with Corona or who has contacts with it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 17, 2020, 11:40:40 AM
Not yet.  I hope that I will be outside the 80% that may be afflicted.

My colds begin with an itchy left arm.  3 days later : Dry throat. Itchy ears and nose.  Streaming cold.  Sometimes a cough.

Do you have a thermometer thingy to check? 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Joaniepat on March 17, 2020, 12:24:33 PM
The main symptoms they are looking for are dry cough/high temperature. It can present with sore throat and runny nose in addition, and even nausea. If you are fit you can get away with mild symptoms or even none. I'm 70 with no underlying conditions and reasonably fit, so in a way it would be nice to get it out of the way, but I'll never know one way or the other.

I've just heard that a prison warder at High Down prison in Banstead has tested positive. That is about 5 miles from here, so we have it close by.

Yes CLKD, I have a thermometer thingy  ;). Seem to have everything I need to hand, but could do with a new body just now  ;D. I'm also lucky to be able to take a short walk in green areas without much chance of meeting anybody, so will be able to maintain a safe distance when I feel ready to go out.

JP xx

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 17, 2020, 01:22:02 PM
Oh I always get nausea prior to a cold  >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Tc on March 17, 2020, 02:30:03 PM
Take care JP.xxx  .
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kathleen on March 17, 2020, 03:14:09 PM
Hello Joaniepat

I suppose without testing it's impossible to know if you have the virus or not.

If you do have it I hope it is a mild case and that you feel better soon.

Take care.

K.


Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Joaniepat on March 17, 2020, 05:19:31 PM
Thanks Tc and Kathleen. Hope you are both OK.
JP x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on March 17, 2020, 06:50:34 PM
Ohhh Joaniepat.
I'm really sorry your feeling poorly.
Hopefully you?ll get over it quickly and feel better soon.
Please keep letting us know how you are, if your able too.
   :foryou:

xxxx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 17, 2020, 06:52:01 PM
 :tulips2: :tulips:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kmorris on March 17, 2020, 06:59:06 PM
Joaniepat....please keep posting and let us know how you are....I will keep my eyes open for your posts. What are you taking for it? Do you have enough in to keep you going...is someone keeping an eye on you?
Hoping this is just a bad cold and you will soon be back on your feet.
xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on March 17, 2020, 07:01:01 PM
Don't take ibuprofen Joaniepat.
Makes it worse apparently.
xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 17, 2020, 07:02:39 PM
Nurofen is my go-to for all aches and pains and is all that I have in the house.  I could take a bunch of paracetamol and it would kill me but not help aches and pains  :-\. 

A warm bath is nice too ;-)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 17, 2020, 07:10:11 PM
There is NO evidence that Nurofen etc. will cause symptoms to worsen: logically, why would it? I did a google, like you do ;-)


Veran's tweet was widely shared, particularly in France, and the advice has raised questions over the impact of ibuprofen to treat the virus. CNN has contacted the French health ministry for comment.

"Deeply concerned about this bold statement," Muge Cevik, a researcher at the University of St Andrews Infection and Global Health Division, said on Twitter. "There's no scientific evidence I am aware of that ibuprofen [causes worse] outcomes in #COVID19."

"I don't think we've had any firm evidence to suggest that [ibuprofen aggravating Covid-19] is a concern at this point," said Dr. Yvonne Maldonado, professor of pediatrics and infectious disease epidemiologist at Stanford University in California


I can find no record of how Nurofen etc. makes 'flu etc. worse. Maybe this is being pushed by the companies that manufacture Paracetamol?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 17, 2020, 08:17:09 PM
So has the 1 show this evening - but no one knows why?  is this being pushed by the Company that makes paracetamol or is there a physical reason ?  I can't use it and it is a dangerous drug which should be on prescription only  >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Hurdity on March 17, 2020, 08:32:04 PM
There are too many thread on this now all talking about the same thing!

One of my daughter's best friends is having to self-isolate as her sister in law has it. That's the closest I am to it (knowingly that is). London is rife - at least half the England cases are there. I have close family members there. One is in a vulnerable at risk group, now working from home and pretty much self isolating although well at present.

Sore throat and runny nose are less usual symptoms of Covid-19 according to the stats so hopefully just a nasty cold? Get well soon Joaniepat!

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: dangermouse on March 17, 2020, 09:47:14 PM
CLKD - If you google ibuprofen and bronchospasm you?ll see why this might be contraindicated in COVID-19.

I know of about 4 people (including one very close friend) who have it but I'm in London so we are ahead of the game.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on March 17, 2020, 09:49:35 PM
Don't take Ibuprofen if you think you have Coronavirus.

My niece who works for the NHS sent me a text about it today.

Dr John Campbell on Youtube has also warned against it.

Absolutely correct.  It surpresses the immune system if the virus progresses to the pneumonia stage, so is dangerous.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 17, 2020, 10:26:59 PM
 :thankyou:

'too many threads' meaning what exactly  >:(. 1 doesn't have to join in.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on March 17, 2020, 10:51:52 PM
My son had asthma when he was little.
I was told never to give him ibuprofen back then.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Ju Ju on March 17, 2020, 10:55:23 PM
I'm scared to be honest as I have asthma and developed pneumonia after a minor cough and required hospitalisation and oxygen therapy. Fortunately it was bacterial pneumonia, so was treatable with antibiotics and steroids. But with covid 19, if you go on to develop pneumonia, it will be viral, which can't be treated with antibiotics. it's scary enough not being able breathe, even if it can be treated.

I've self isolating anyway, but am awaiting new glasses to arrive at the opticians. I hope they do, as I'm getting headaches from eye strain. Plus a dental appointment soon, which I need. Will they still be open? Both occasions which I will have to go out for, if they happen.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on March 17, 2020, 11:31:50 PM
Perhaps they could post your specs? I know they normally like to fit them but these aren't normal times. I would only go to the dentist if you have toothache, anything else can wait. Stay safe.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 18, 2020, 05:09:48 AM
CLKD - If you google ibuprofen and bronchospasm you?ll see why this might be contraindicated in COVID-19.

I know of about 4 people (including one very close friend) who have it but I'm in London so we are ahead of the game.
  I am also in London but don't yet know/know of anyone with it. However my workplace is closing on Thursday and I will be working from home.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 18, 2020, 09:44:30 AM
Ju Ju - by then hopefully most people going to be affected will be isolating ;-)

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on March 18, 2020, 02:00:45 PM
I don't see how any of us will know if we have it unless we are hospitalised? A friend is self isolating under NHS advice due to exactly the same flu type symptoms I had three weeks ago when I was told, by my GP,  that my high fever which gave me a slightly productive cough meant it was definitely not Covid-19. Changing times!

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 18, 2020, 02:04:19 PM
'flu usually floors people.  This apparently is fever led?

It would be sensible to test families with front line workers, i.e. Doctors/Nurses to see whether it *is* this strain.  That will get people back to work more quickly.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on March 18, 2020, 07:18:22 PM
How are you Joaniepat?
Feel any better yet?
xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kmorris on March 18, 2020, 07:39:40 PM
Not seen any posts by Joaniepat yet, Jillydoll.
Hope all ok. Xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Joaniepat on March 18, 2020, 08:11:53 PM
Hello folks, still here and feeling a tad better today (still coughing like mad  >:( ). Thank you for asking. Hope you are all as well as can be.

Love,
JP xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: pants46 on March 18, 2020, 08:36:43 PM
Joaniepat, if you're about 5 miles from Banstead, you may be near my folks. They are up on the Downs.
Glad you are filling a little better today. xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on March 18, 2020, 08:46:13 PM
Ahh, glad to hear it Joaniepat.
Thanx for letting us know.
Now get them feet up . 😘
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Joaniepat on March 19, 2020, 10:39:31 AM
Joaniepat, if you're about 5 miles from Banstead, you may be near my folks. They are up on the Downs.
Glad you are filling a little better today. xx
I'm up on the Downs too 😊

I always think that's such a funny expression, "up on the Downs"! I used to live in Banstead, but moved away to a small town nearby.

JP xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: pants46 on March 19, 2020, 12:23:36 PM
Is it funny ? Ive always said it. But then I was born there, so, maybe its just something 'us Downsers' say 😉
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Ju Ju on March 19, 2020, 07:12:30 PM
Hello folks, still here and feeling a tad better today (still coughing like mad  >:( ). Thank you for asking. Hope you are all as well as can be.

Love,
JP xx

So pleased you are Okish. Keep getting better.  :foryou:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 19, 2020, 07:17:15 PM
Keep improving!   We go To The Downs above Whipsnade Zoo ;-).  Good breath of air from Ivinghoe Beacon  ;)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Hurdity on March 28, 2020, 10:16:58 AM
My daughter has it (lives in London - the UK epicentre).  Well almost certain to be it in the absence of testing. She is on Day 11 of self-isolation because her husband was a bit under the weather with very mild symptoms, a bit of a cough, fatigue, achey limbs etc not even a fever so they weren't even sure he had it but she had a fever last night and is very tired today. Hoping she also gets it mildly....

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Tc on March 28, 2020, 10:21:42 AM
Hurdity. I hope its mild. Sending love xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Dierdre on March 28, 2020, 11:25:08 AM
Ive been on my first week of self isolation due to contact last week with a number of suspected children and staff at school.  I already had a sore throat which developed into a bit of a croaky voice and slight cough but no fever so didnt worry too much. I then had for 3 days very painful aching at the back of my thighs and hips, (new to me) had to have hot water bottles to help relieve this and paracetamol.  Today my eyes now hurt to move, hurt if I press the lids and sensitive to light and I feel tired.  Each symtom has been separate over the last week, when one ended another started.  Im hoping this is it now.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Tc on March 28, 2020, 11:36:56 AM
Dierdre. Wish you well soon.
Do you have anyone can get you shopping. Keep well hydrated.

I posted on the other thread about the fact I'm not sure if I already had it in Feb and i said exactly the same about leg pains.   It persisted longer than the other symptoms but went away  hasnt come back. 

It may be another virus. We arent being told specifically leg pains are a feature but I have never had pains in my legs like that. Even with flu.

Sending love and hugs. Xxx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 28, 2020, 12:39:57 PM
My nephew has had symptoms for 8 days.  He's a strapping lad and it's made him feel really ill, he says worse in case it's The Virus  >:( as he can't dismiss it as 'flu'

I haven't seen him for over 18 years.  Wouldn't recognise him if I met him in the street  ::)

Until we get anti-virus testing people won't know exactly what they have been infected with/not.  Hopefully as part of on-going researching regarding C-19 to gain a wider picture testing will be available to anyone who has suffered.  It won't need to be done immediately .......
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on March 28, 2020, 01:20:33 PM
Anyone heard from Kathleen.  She has not be on since the 17th.  I know she has several heath issues so I hope she doesn't have the virus.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Tc on March 28, 2020, 01:31:04 PM
Hope shes o.k.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Dierdre on March 28, 2020, 03:20:10 PM
Thanks Tc, my family are dropping of food etc at the door so ok. I'd never had these leg pains before either, i think aches and pains in limbs are a symptom. The list of symptoms seem to be expanding as we know more from others that have tested positive and not all have the classic fever and cough.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Justjules on March 28, 2020, 05:32:05 PM
Daughter and partner have both possibly had it over the past few days. He was teaching up till recently but she's been working from home. Very bad aches and pains, slept 17 hours solid, couldn't open eyes for more than a few seconds, dry cough, no appetite and daughter got heavy sensation in chest. Felt really bad. How can you know if you've had it. I would have thought you could ring somewhere and at least register that you've had symptoms. Why are there so many different variations of it?? Son's FIL (in his 50s) had to have ambulance today after horrendous symptoms but they said not I?ll enough for a hospital bed!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Joaniepat on March 28, 2020, 06:41:15 PM
Oh I'm so sorry. Give her my love.

JP x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Barnacle on March 28, 2020, 06:48:42 PM
I'll be keeping them in my thoughts xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 28, 2020, 07:11:11 PM
Ive been on my first week of self isolation due to contact last week with a number of suspected children and staff at school.  I already had a sore throat which developed into a bit of a croaky voice and slight cough but no fever so didnt worry too much. I then had for 3 days very painful aching at the back of my thighs and hips, (new to me) had to have hot water bottles to help relieve this and paracetamol.  Today my eyes now hurt to move, hurt if I press the lids and sensitive to light and I feel tired.  Each symtom has been separate over the last week, when one ended another started.  Im hoping this is it now.
Hi Deirdre I had low level aching in my lower back/hips last weekend and felt a bit under the weather but it had cleared up by Monday. It may be another virus. Today I have had some very mild virus like symptoms too but no temperature or cough so I don't think I need to worry.  Back on march 11th (my birthday) I had a hint of a throat irritation and coughed a couple of times. Thought of cancelling my birthday meal but decided that I was being hypochondriac and went ahead with it. Have had several mini episodes like that this month.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Salad on March 28, 2020, 07:18:07 PM
Just to let everyone know that Jill's OH been taken to hospital,she's not allowed to go with him,so as you can imagine she's worried sick,they don't think he has a uti and are checking him for sepsis and I'm sure they will check for covid too,it's just awful
Thank you for the update - sending love  :bighug:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 28, 2020, 07:26:42 PM
Anyone heard from Kathleen.  She has not be on since the 17th.  I know she has several heath issues so I hope she doesn't have the virus.
  No I haven't seen anything from her either. Hope she is ok too.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 28, 2020, 07:31:42 PM
Just to let everyone know that Jill's OH been taken to hospital,she's not allowed to go with him,so as you can imagine she's worried sick,they don't think he has a uti and are checking him for sepsis and I'm sure they will check for covid too,it's just awful
Really sorry to hear this. Fingers crossed that it isn't Covid or anything else serious.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on March 28, 2020, 07:49:43 PM
Oh no, sorry to hear this sending positive vibes to Jill and her husband.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on March 28, 2020, 08:33:03 PM
Have they ruled out coronavirus then? Good if they have but very worrying they haven't got to the bottom of it. Sending best wishes for a speedy recovery. Is he clear of sepsis?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 28, 2020, 08:44:04 PM
 :'(. so much for 111  >:( who are rarely medics and are reading off a crib sheet.  This country is really good at tick sheets throughout the medical profession and CQC  :-\ and this scheme is going to cost lives. 

Jilly knew it was more than what she was told  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 28, 2020, 08:57:06 PM
He would need ABs via a drip if it was sepsis and that can't be delivered in a home situation. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Dierdre on March 29, 2020, 07:27:35 AM
There are probably alot of people sat in isolation at home at the moment with chest infections, bronchitis and even bacterial pneumonia that antibiotics would have sorted quickly but cant get diagnosed properly because we have to assume it covid-19 and isolate.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kathleen on March 29, 2020, 09:03:59 AM
Hello ladies.

Just posting to say that I'm okay and to thank those of you who were concerned about me. I look at the forum  most days but I haven't logged on lately as I'm trying to keep myself busy around the house.

Sending big hugs to everyone at this worrying time.

Take care all and stay safe.

K.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Hurdity on March 29, 2020, 09:06:22 AM
So sorry to hear about jillydoll's husband and hope he is better this morning - thanks for letting us know jaypo.

CLKD - ABs don't work with viral sepsis, which is the danger in advanced stages of Covid-19. It is hoped that anti-virals will become available to treat more severe cases.

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 29, 2020, 09:07:25 AM
Hello ladies.

Just posting to say that I'm okay and to thank those of you who were concerned about me. I look at the forum  most days but I haven't logged on lately as I'm trying to keep myself busy around the house.

Sending big hugs to everyone at this worrying time.

Take care all and stay safe.

K.
Good to hear that you are ok Kathleen  🙂
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on March 29, 2020, 09:09:26 AM
Great news Kathleen.  Stay safe and well.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 29, 2020, 09:11:46 AM
There are probably alot of people sat in isolation at home at the moment with chest infections, bronchitis and even bacterial pneumonia that antibiotics would have sorted quickly but cant get diagnosed properly because we have to assume it covid-19 and isolate.
  If they have the wet chesty cough which comes with such infections,  they can hopefully get a phone call from a GP and AB if required. I haven't had to put it to the test yet.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kathleen on March 29, 2020, 09:20:38 AM
Hello again ladies.

Katejo and Shadyglade - thank you both and stay safe.

Jillydoll -  sending hugs to you and your husband.


Wishing everyone well. Take care ladies.

K.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 29, 2020, 09:26:51 AM
>wave< Kathleen
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 29, 2020, 12:03:47 PM
My nephew has been very ill in London with 'symptoms' but not ill enough to require treatment.  So until the antivirus tests come in and if he bothers to get one, he won't know what he's had.


Haven't heard of anyone locally who is isolating, a few are shielding due to other health issues .  We are avoiding as much as possible. 


I think that Boris is wasting his time.  Those Police on the BBC right now aren't keeping their distance.  Writing to us what's that about?  Waste of trees, waste of money, waste of his time.   He's been Voted in as PM GET ON WITH IT!  Also, who will be disinfecting all these letters B4 they leave his office and B4 they are opened?  Which bit of don't touch DOESN'T HE GET  :bang: :bang: :bang:


?  ?M8.4  ?  to be spent on the above.  How many will contact the Virus by touching this and as the Royal Mail are looking to shut down postal services ....... I think that this is a mis-use of his position and funds!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on March 29, 2020, 12:05:36 PM
I have not heard of anyone with symptoms at all. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 29, 2020, 12:07:06 PM
I've heard of people with symptoms of 'flu or heavy colds which may/not be C-19.  But apart from my nephew no one actually worrying that it is actually C-19.  That's according to his mother but his Bro thinks it's a cold.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 29, 2020, 12:22:27 PM
I have not heard of anyone with symptoms at all.
  I have just come across the 1st person I know well who has it. In fact 2 of them because her partner is ill too. Both work in the NHS but not nurses or doctors. She says they have been ill for 10 days with no real improvement but are at home still. She is only 47. Not sure about his age but similar I think.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 29, 2020, 12:55:27 PM
10 days seems a long while to have symptoms with no improvement.  If they are not getting worse? have they had advice?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 29, 2020, 02:08:26 PM
I was lucky with the 'flu: went to bed and woke with it the next morning.  3/4 days in bed B4 gingerly getting out to test my legs enough to dare to walk downstairs.  I remember Mum and my sister having it one year and they were ill for weeks it seemed.  My sister also had rheumatic fever 3 times ....... so ill when she was 9 that they couldn't take her to Hospital.  It was touch and go for 3 days/nights.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 29, 2020, 02:50:45 PM
10 days seems a long while to have symptoms with no improvement.  If they are not getting worse? have they had advice?
I don't know yet. Have replied to them to ask if they have enough food etc. but haven't heard back yet.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on March 29, 2020, 03:08:54 PM
10 days seems a long while to have symptoms with no improvement.  If they are not getting worse? have they had advice?

It seems that the illness either gets better or, after two weeks, rapidly becomes pneumonia. I know of three people locally who have died and two others have tested positive.  :'(

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 29, 2020, 03:09:30 PM
Well done Katejo!

Sad times Taz
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Wrensong on March 29, 2020, 03:34:52 PM
Jillydoll, if you're reading so sorry to hear about your husband.  They will take very good care of him.  Sending a hug & all good wishes.
Wx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on March 29, 2020, 05:00:13 PM
Have you heard how jillydoll's OH is jaypo? I hope he's improving.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: littleminnie on March 29, 2020, 05:42:18 PM
They probably didn't have any test kits left Jaypo.
Is usually 2 days before AB kick in.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 29, 2020, 10:08:18 PM
Yes,probably LM he's been on the ABs longer than that though but he's been very poorly for a week now,so the infection is probably quite deep seated
I heard from a friend who has it today. She and her partner have been ill for 10 days already with no improvement.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on March 30, 2020, 12:04:15 AM
It seems that 14 days is the critical time when it either begins to lessen or goes on to become pneumonia. I hope they soon feel better Katejo.

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 30, 2020, 09:13:16 AM
I think jillydoll has done well keeping her head above water thus far  :o I would have been running for the hills long B4 ......  :'(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Hurdity on March 30, 2020, 10:55:41 AM
I do hope Jillydoll's husband recovers soon - is it definitely Covid-19?

Just found out yesterday during video phone-call session with my (grown-up) children that not only do my daughter and husband in London have it (latter now recovered) but my son has had it for 5 days (mid 20's living alone in London) and didn't tell me as he thought I would be worried  :o. I certainly was and would have been as he is in the category of having a condition which could have made him more at risk. However he says he had cough, fever, aches and pains, fatigue, loss of taste and smell, took no meds and is now recovering - phew - hopefully will continue to do so. he said all is team has had it so could have incubated it before starting to work from home or uit could have come in with food he has ordered even though he is meticulous at gelling and sanitising etc. Carried on working (at home) all the while....


It seems that the illness either gets better or, after two weeks, rapidly becomes pneumonia. I know of three people locally who have died and two others have tested positive.  :'(

Taz x

Taz how very sad  :'(

Stay safe everyone

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 30, 2020, 11:53:40 AM
It is said in the Telegraph this morning, that anyone with symptoms should NOT work - they need to drink plenty and rest.  Working increases the stress levels which lowers an already stricken immune system. Working may increase the days it takes to begin recovery.  Seems sensible to me.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on March 30, 2020, 12:25:09 PM
Dominic Cummings now has it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 30, 2020, 12:31:47 PM
Whose he when he's up and dressed?

Boris is different - or so he thinks  :D but haven't heard how he is for the last 24 hours ........

I ache from the waist upwards  :-\ - off to take some Nurofen. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Tc on March 30, 2020, 12:50:06 PM
Hurdity thank goodness they have recovered. What a relief. I do hope everyone here who is sick is o.k.

My sister quarantined for 7 days. She is considered key worker  (medical supply company.)  She still coughing today but under the rules supposed to go back to work.  Her company have zero distancing in place.no sanitising either.  She already complained about it before she got sick.  She felt like under guidelines she had no choice but return to work today. But I spoke to her. As I see it even if she hasnt had the virus she has been very unwell with something else and immunity will be low.  So she phoned doc and asked if it was o.k to return to work still coughing and unwell. We had been told its o.k to go back even if still coughing. But doc said not to go back to work, issued the paperwork and she will be on sick pay.  But at least she wont be at risk working for a company which isnt protecting employees.

Her company always treated their employees like crap before all this.  The crisis has realy highlighted those companies that just dont care about their staff.

Much love to everyone.

Xxx

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on March 30, 2020, 12:53:16 PM
Whose he when he's up and dressed?

Boris is different - or so he thinks  :D but haven't heard how he is for the last 24 hours ........

I ache from the waist upwards  :-\ - off to take some Nurofen.

He has been all over the media for over a year.  Special adviser to Boris.  Ring any bells??
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Salad on March 30, 2020, 01:37:14 PM
Whose he when he's up and dressed?

Boris is different - or so he thinks  :D but haven't heard how he is for the last 24 hours ........

I ache from the waist upwards  :-\ - off to take some Nurofen.

He has been all over the media for over a year.  Special adviser to Boris.  Ring any bells??

The one who sprinted out of Number 10 when Boris announced he had COVID-19?
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Post by: Shadyglade on March 30, 2020, 02:18:14 PM
That's the one.  I saw a video clip of that set to the Benny Hill theme.

Very funny.  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 30, 2020, 02:26:45 PM
NOPE although I do remember someone sprinting as I was waiting for him to trip over  ;D

Tc - your sister certainly does not have to return to work if her employer isn't taken appropriate Care of his work force.  This was stated in an update on BBC last week B4 Boris succumbed.  She could sue for unfair dismissal if push came to shove.  Tell her to get well and start looking for something else?

There are now photos of 'stars' on the media who have apparently succummbed. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Tc on March 30, 2020, 02:38:32 PM
Thanks CLKD.  She phoned ACAS about the lack of measures. Was told she must put it in writing to boss.

Xx
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Post by: CLKD on March 30, 2020, 02:54:21 PM
Good idea.  There are probably guidelines on Public Health England or local authority web-sites.  No one should be expected to work in a danger environment anyway, which is why my sister left the NHS 3 years ago.  2 on duty for 25 mentally ill patients, my sister being the qualified person in charge.   >:(. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Salad on March 30, 2020, 03:48:44 PM
That's the one.  I saw a video clip of that set to the Benny Hill theme.

Very funny.  ;D
Haha- I missed that!  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 30, 2020, 03:57:39 PM
Hurdity thank goodness they have recovered. What a relief. I do hope everyone here who is sick is o.k.

My sister quarantined for 7 days. She is considered key worker  (medical supply company.)  She still coughing today but under the rules supposed to go back to work.  Her company have zero distancing in place.no sanitising either.  She already complained about it before she got sick.  She felt like under guidelines she had no choice but return to work today. But I spoke to her. As I see it even if she hasnt had the virus she has been very unwell with something else and immunity will be low.  So she phoned doc and asked if it was o.k to return to work still coughing and unwell. We had been told its o.k to go back even if still coughing. But doc said not to go back to work, issued the paperwork and she will be on sick pay.  But at least she wont be at risk working for a company which isnt protecting employees.

Her company always treated their employees like crap before all this.  The crisis has realy highlighted those companies that just dont care about their staff.

Much love to everyone.

Xxx
I have seen a lot of conflicting views about the 7 day period and whether it is enough. Opinions from other countries have said that it must be 7 or 14 days after the coughing has completely finished.  1 person wrote that the British couple taken ill on the cruise ship still tested positive 20 days later(or maybe 28).
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Tc on March 30, 2020, 04:14:44 PM
Katejo. Yes. Conflicting info.  The warden in mums flats went off Thursday as her husband coughing and temp.  The manager phoned to tell the residents that she "doesnt think hes had it" and warden can come back tommorow.  They are all vulnerable elderly.  One of the daughters had to phone the company and explain the procedures.  You cant just say "I dont think he had it".  Most of the people currently quarantined dont know for sure.

I suspect the company has no cover for her. 

Xxxx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Hurdity on March 30, 2020, 04:26:00 PM
Sorry to hear about your sister Tc. There are guidelines but as always the data don't give the true picture either re the virus or how well  someone is. I think the 7 day rule is absurd frankly. Absolutely - in the absence of testing no-one knows whether they have had it although if you have classic symptoms and in a hot spot area then it is very likely.

If they are not able to work while observing the 2 m rule then the company should provide PPE for staff and especially if she is a key worker in medical supplies FFS!!!

I will put some information about the virus and how long it lasts on the scientific/medical thread on Covid-19 I started in Other Health Discussion so that it might be easier to find stuff. here is the NHS Info:
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-advice/

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 30, 2020, 04:30:19 PM
Usually a virus will be gone after 7 days.  So although symptoms may be similar, in the normal run of a cold/cough, 1 should begin to feel better after 3/4 days and fit for work after a week.

Other symptoms stated today: loss of smell and taste are becoming more important to be aware of; dizziness and sore throat and the fact that 1 feels better after 4-5 days but the bug returns when unexpected.  Full update on the News later I expect after today's Government announcement.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on March 30, 2020, 04:40:05 PM
I think it's to do with the total virus load.  People may still test positive but the virus load present is too low for community transmission.

I read that somewhere but don't ask me where  ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Dierdre on March 30, 2020, 08:13:38 PM
I lost my sense of smell and taste last night, i had it at lunch time but when i started cooking my evening meal I noticed i couldnt smell a thing.  Ive had various symptoms all week, not fever or cough, just croaky throat then aching legs and eyes when i moved them.  Been sneezing alot so could be a cold but ive never lost my smell unless bunged up but im not, i can breathe  ok, just cant smell or taste.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 30, 2020, 08:31:45 PM
I think it's to do with the total virus load.  People may still test positive but the virus load present is too low for community transmission.

I read that somewhere but don't ask me where  ::)
I saw a very good article explaining it. Might be able to find it tomorrow. Symptoms are more severe if the patient caught it when close up to several sick people or carriers (eg. In a crowded place). If they get it by shaking hands with 1 carrier, symptoms are much milder.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on March 30, 2020, 09:19:38 PM
Ah, I remembered it correctly.  Definitely suffering from information overload.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on March 30, 2020, 09:26:54 PM
Dierdie could you have Hayfever.  The pollen count is rising.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on March 31, 2020, 07:57:05 AM
Convinced myself I was going down with it last night.  Slight sore throat, felt uck, nausea, racing heart and couldn't sleep.  This morning checked throat and no redness at all and realised other symptoms were anxiety.  Since then have felt much better.  Feel stupid though  ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 31, 2020, 08:41:59 AM
It's not stupid at all.  We are more alert to every ache, pain, sneeze etc..
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Tc on March 31, 2020, 10:04:14 AM
Nothing to feel silly about shady xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on March 31, 2020, 10:44:48 AM
Convinced myself I was going down with it last night.  Slight sore throat, felt uck, nausea, racing heart and couldn't sleep.  This morning checked throat and no redness at all and realised other symptoms were anxiety.  Since then have felt much better.  Feel stupid though  ::)

I know exactly what you mean. Also didn't feel good this morning but it was more to do with shoulder/back tension and ear discomfort. One thing I don't like about this lockdown period is the increased difficulty in seeing a doctor. I had a GP call back yesterday but would much have preferred to go in so he could check my earache rather than doing it over the phone. I found it hard to answer some of the questions accurately.
I heard on the news this morning that all breast scans (and some other scans) are being suspended for 3 months because the staff need to get too close to us to do it effectively. Hope that no one finds that they have breast cancer which could have been spotted earlier.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 31, 2020, 10:59:51 AM
Whereas WHO have now stated that it is OK to use Paracetmol and Nurofen for C-19  ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Dierdre on March 31, 2020, 11:51:53 AM
Never had hayfever before but do suffer with sinuses, hoping its that. Think anxiety is going to be a big factor with every twinge from now on.

Katejo, my sister is having chemo at the moment for breast cancer, she had regular scans that missed it, she found it by self examination, that still works.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 31, 2020, 11:57:21 AM
How is your sister over all Dierdre?  I found my lump on self examination it never showed on mammogram.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 31, 2020, 01:43:23 PM
Does he smoke?   ;)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Dierdre on March 31, 2020, 01:54:02 PM
Shes on her 6th chemo session with 2 more to go but now worried they will be postponed. She's had her ups and downs with side effects but was doing well until all of this started. We were worried in case she caught an infection before but now its terrifying us when she has to go to the hospital for treatment or tests.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Dierdre on March 31, 2020, 03:33:49 PM
Hope so, its probably more dangerous her getting this virus at the moment than waiting a few more months  for the chemo.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on March 31, 2020, 06:58:23 PM
Coronavirus: Ocado buys 100,000 test kits for staff .... and will give some to the NHS if the Government asks for them  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: bramble on April 01, 2020, 01:19:14 AM
I have been treated for a severe chest infection for the last 4 weeks - had all the c-19 symptoms except fever 4 weeks ago. Have seen (1 real, and 2 telephone) docs. Had 2 courses of abs and steroids to help with breathing problems which are bad. Doc 3 said she was moving me out of the chest infection box into the c-19 box as I am a text book case (despite no fever or none that I noticed). AM now on very strong abs and more steroids. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Countrygirl on April 01, 2020, 05:18:36 AM
Bramble hope you start to feel better soon, sounds like you've had a horrible time with it x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on April 01, 2020, 07:38:45 AM
It's all so confusing. I hope you feel better soon Bramble. I can understand the steroids but not the antibiotics as Covid-19 doesn't appear to cause chest infections at all. Does Dr 3 think you have caught it on top of what infection you've already had maybe? Do take care.

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on April 01, 2020, 07:43:46 AM
I have been treated for a severe chest infection for the last 4 weeks - had all the c-19 symptoms except fever 4 weeks ago. Have seen (1 real, and 2 telephone) docs. Had 2 courses of abs and steroids to help with breathing problems which are bad. Doc 3 said she was moving me out of the chest infection box into the c-19 box as I am a text book case (despite no fever or none that I noticed). AM now on very strong abs and more steroids. Fingers crossed.
  Really sorry to hear this but surprised that doc 3 is saying covid 19. I would expect the cough with a chest infection to be a wet cough not a dry one.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 01, 2020, 08:29:59 AM
Better to treat for it in case until testing arrives?  Also some who had C-19 but not badly have reported other symptoms .........

Get well soon Bramble, R U living alone [sorry can't remember  :-\]
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: bramble on April 01, 2020, 09:08:46 AM
I don't have a cough now. I did have a dry cough for 2 days 4 weeks ago along with the crashing fatigue and then I got the 'drowning' scenario later with a cough. Breathing went downhill about 5 days after the dry cough started and has not improved. I also have bursitis at the moment which is one of the reasons the doc has given me the strong abs as she thinks I also have an infection of some kind somewhere in my body. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 01, 2020, 10:37:20 AM
OOOHHHH  ......... have a  :hug:  and  :tulips: and  :cupcake:

R U improving?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on April 01, 2020, 12:07:29 PM
I don't have a cough now. I did have a dry cough for 2 days 4 weeks ago along with the crashing fatigue and then I got the 'drowning' scenario later with a cough. Breathing went downhill about 5 days after the dry cough started and has not improved. I also have bursitis at the moment which is one of the reasons the doc has given me the strong abs as she thinks I also have an infection of some kind somewhere in my body.
  That does sound more like Covid 19. Really hope you feel better very soon.

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 01, 2020, 02:58:21 PM
It's been safeguarding for safeguarding's sake ?  forgetting that many people will have become involved in Mr J's moving from home to hospital ......... plus a lack of definite diagnosis?

I need your help Girls - look at my supermarket thread of this afternoon and tell me that I'm not completely mad in thinking that employees wouldn't be allowed nor have time to put out such a Press notice  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 01, 2020, 08:10:22 PM
You could reply in my thread to keep that 1 current  ::) - so do you believe that employers of hi-end supermarkets would allow their employees to publish a press report without repurctuionts [can't spell this evening  >:( where's predictive text when I need it].  Repurcutions?  :-\

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on April 01, 2020, 09:06:07 PM
How could they stop them??

I don't know if what you have found is Kosher as there is increasing amounts of rubbish out there.  Too be honest I don't really care, it's a pretty low priority at the moment.  Most people are doing the best they can and that includes shop workers.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 02, 2020, 08:38:53 AM
The priority is that I was slammed on Facebook for suggesting it might be a scam .........

They could even in this current climate, sack anyone who put such information into the Press as companies have a Press Officer as well as Unions.  I need to know if it's real or not .......

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on April 02, 2020, 12:54:49 PM
The priority is that I was slammed on Facebook for suggesting it might be a scam .........

They could even in this current climate, sack anyone who put such information into the Press as companies have a Press Officer as well as Unions.  I need to know if it's real or not .......
I suspect that it may be inaccurate/a rumour. I haven't seen it reported anywhere myself.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 02, 2020, 02:11:49 PM
On local Facebook? or 1st April which was in very bad taste .........

We've had a sudden death of an 85 year old aunt but no virus suspected, she was well on Sunday.  Such a shock and difficult during this State of Emergency.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 02, 2020, 02:14:56 PM
'from it' ........ I wondered when I saw the news item earlier, another excuse?  Why not call 'flu 'flu or 'heart' problems 'heart' problems  :-\. they were funny at the time  :-*
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Tc on April 02, 2020, 03:29:21 PM
Sending sympathies and love CLKD xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Lanzalover on April 02, 2020, 04:23:30 PM
Sorry to hear that CLKD.

Lanzalover x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 02, 2020, 04:27:42 PM
Tnx.  We can all light a candle in our heart but the cousin is a single child ........... married and there will be friends.  But getting Death Certs signed. registered and copies is going to be difficult. The arrangements will be made over the 'phone  >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 02, 2020, 06:58:17 PM
Today:

Royal Mail has introduced steps to ensure the safety of its workers after staff took strike action against the lack of measures in place against the spread of coronavirus.

Workers in Chatham, Kent, took industrial action on Thursday morning and have since returned to work after the company introduced social distancing measures and other aids such as latex gloves and extra hand soap.

The Communication Workers Union (CWU) had raised serious safety concerns after Royal Mail had told workers it is safe to work without full Personal Protective Equipment.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on April 02, 2020, 08:28:01 PM
Amazon now leave parcels on the doorstep before ringing the bell and moving off.

They've been doing that here for the last two weeks as have all of our delivery drivers. They take a photograph of the goods on the doorstep instead of a signature

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Hurdity on April 03, 2020, 09:35:40 AM
How is jillydoll's husband and jillydoll today?

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 03, 2020, 12:34:24 PM
Pneumonia can be difficult to diagnose.  Is there any improvement?

Sadly - in relation to Royal Mail - they will tell someone a package has been signed for when it hasn't got the correct signature and not been delivered: I am still waiting for 2 envelopes, both containing cheques, to the same person to turn up.  RM assure me that the signature is that of my nephew but it ISN'T his  :argue: ....... it's been signed for, end of say RM  >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on April 03, 2020, 01:36:58 PM
Let's hope it's not covid.  Would be nice for Jill not to have to worry about the rest of the family getting it.  Fingers crossed 🤞.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on April 03, 2020, 01:43:11 PM
Let's hope it's not covid.  Would be nice for Jill not to have to worry about the rest of the family getting it.  Fingers crossed 🤞.
I have just heard further news about the 13 year old who died. None of the family can actually attend the funeral because 2 of his brothers/sisters have since tested positive. 😥
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Barnacle on April 03, 2020, 02:34:09 PM
I'm sorry to hear of the loss of your Aunt CKLD x

Keeping Jillydoll and her OH in my thoughts x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Ju Ju on April 03, 2020, 05:20:37 PM
It is pneumonia,he had it as a young man and Jill said this time it's a 100 times worse but he's a strong man and I'm sure he will recover in full,was just looking up the nhs site and it says it can take up to 6 weeks to get over the breathlessness,still can't believe they sent him home twice and stopped his antibiotics,shocking really but I guess the staff are under so much pressure to do the right thing.He's now waiting for the second covid result to come back,fingers crossed he hasn't got that too

It took me many months to recover from pneumonia. As a doctor told me, you have to be patient as your lungs are damaged and have to heal.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 03, 2020, 05:32:39 PM
Tnx Barnacle.

Now Nurses are dying?  Why?  How does that happen?   :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on April 03, 2020, 07:00:33 PM
Tnx Barnacle.

Now Nurses are dying?  Why?  How does that happen?   :-\

Because of 'virus load'.  When you are treating patients heavily infected and very ill, you risk coming into contact with very high levels of the virus.  That not only increase the risk of infection but the severity of the infection.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Hurdity on April 03, 2020, 08:03:11 PM
I will post some links to info about viral load on the thread in Other Health Discussion

Thanks so much for the update about jillydoll's husband jaypo. Hopefully he hasn't got Covid-19 and will soon be on the mend.

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Tc on April 04, 2020, 11:38:03 AM
  :'( :'( :'(

It is truly the worst thing anyone could imagine
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Barnacle on April 04, 2020, 12:22:18 PM
Totally agree Jaypo. I think it would bring me a tiny piece of comfort to know that my voice was the last thing my child heard. Breaks my bloody heart. :'(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on April 04, 2020, 02:23:50 PM
I think,as a mother, I would risk my own life to be with my child on his/her deathbed,it doesn't get sadder than this does it  :'(
  The mother may be willing to take the risk but she herself may be infected and could unknowingly pass it to others in the hospital at the time. I agree that it is a very sad situation. I would be scared if I were ill in hospital with this.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: robotwars on April 04, 2020, 04:33:42 PM
so sad just heard a five year old died  :'(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 04, 2020, 05:02:29 PM
....... with underlying conditions  :'(

We aren't hearing much about those that go in, have treatment and are discharged though!  Bad news sells .........  >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on April 04, 2020, 05:35:29 PM
Yes, let's have some figures for people being discharged from hospital having recovered please.

Agree, if we are staying in give us good news.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 15, 2020, 03:52:38 PM
R U OK Joaniepat?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Joaniepat on April 15, 2020, 06:43:48 PM
R U OK Joaniepat?
Yes thanks, I'm fine  :)
JP x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 15, 2020, 08:19:36 PM
That's great!  No ill effects from the virus?

 :tulips2:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Tc on April 16, 2020, 09:06:08 AM
Good to hear JP xxx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on April 16, 2020, 10:11:39 PM
So glad to hear your ok Joaniepat. 🌺

OH did have covid19 apparently, doctors said his pneumonia was the same as the patients who tested positive, who had pneumonia too. But his four tests came back negative. 🤷‍♀️

We've just heard aswell, the woman who works with my OH, whose been in hospital too, has been released and gone  home to her family. ..She's finding it hard to breathe, but at least she's on the mend. xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 17, 2020, 08:50:50 AM
Hopefully they will both continue to improve, pity that the NHS didn't contact everyone where they worked to heads up the fact!

My nephew was very ill for several weeks.  He has returned to work.   :o. at HS2  >:( from London to Bicester, how does that work!!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on April 17, 2020, 02:34:49 PM
Yeah, that's what me and son said. By the time he was tested, it had gone. But left him with the pneumonia. 🤷‍♀️
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 21, 2020, 05:40:35 PM
There should be a Public Enquiry about the health workers who are dying.  Initially it was to be expected but the whole World is more aware of distancing requirements, how to cleanse and how to wash down areas etc..

How can a Consultant in A&E catch the Virus?  Where, how and when?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on April 21, 2020, 05:52:00 PM
Another 1 - Tracy Maguire remembers the moment she saw doctors insert a swab into her three-week-old baby's nose to test for coronavirus.
The new mother says it is one of the "worst things" she has seen.

"It was the first time I'd seen my baby cry tears," she said. "I held her, I was crying and we were just trying to get each other through the situation".

Born prematurely at just 3lbs 5oz (1.5kg), baby Peyton was diagnosed with Covid-19 at just three weeks old.
Her arrival on 26 March - eight weeks before her due date - defied all of the family's planning.



WTF - how does a new born get C-19  :bang: :bang: :bang:  fortunately she is home!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 01, 2020, 12:27:19 PM
A friend's relative went into a care home last year.  Somehow C-19 took him off the planet: how CAN that happen  :bang: :bang: :bang: he was getting more poorly due to him being 95 but 'care' should mean ?  I see that the CQC have popped their heads up and made comments but they should have been in at the start with advice as to how to keep residents safe.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kathleen on May 01, 2020, 03:05:35 PM
Hello ladies.

I wonder if part of the problem is that care homes are private businesses. The local council can't demand how Marks and Spencers run their business for example so why would a care home be any more responsive? Add to that the cuts in local authority staff it's no surprise that inspections aren't what they were unfortunately.

Take care everyone.

K.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 01, 2020, 04:41:28 PM
Because many are Council run and others even though owned privately or by Companies, they have to take on clients from the Councils? 

It is wrong that there is a body that is answerable to no-one that oversees the 'care' ........... they don't have right of access and rarely go back to check that any 'suggestions' have been implemented.  When Homes close the CQC will pop up ....... 'we gave them advice which the home obviously didn't take' - instead of nagging and nagging .........  :-\

They go into hospitals and schools too.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 07, 2020, 09:01:17 AM
Everyone here OK thus far?  No lasting ill effects from these strange times.

I am fed up now with the government who tell us daily that PPE is being sourced/delivered.  However, the load from Turkey is apparently useless.

Surely in a State of Emergency some PPE is better than none.  Of course we aren't told what the problem actually might be ........ why not nip to B&Q or Homebase and source aprons from them?  Can't be any less appropriate  :'(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 07, 2020, 03:51:30 PM
Anyone have any inkling ? I can't find out from the BBC - no surprise there then!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 09, 2020, 09:44:37 AM
Well I go to the top of our stairs  :o


Falkland Islands

Coronavirus Cases:
13
Deaths:
0
Recovered:
13
.   !How On EARTH !


The COVID-19 pandemic was confirmed to have reached the Faroe Islands, an autonomous territory of Denmark, in March 2020.

As of 8 May, the confirmed infection rate is 1 case per 280 inhabitants, one of the highest rates in the world, but the archipelago has also tested at a very high frequency, with the number of tests equalling c. 17 per cent of the population (among all the world's countries, only in Iceland has almost as many been tested, per capita).[3]
The vast majority of the confirmed cases have been asymptomatic or mild; a few have been admitted to hospital.[4]

As of 8 May there were none in hospital, only one person was still infected (the rest having recovered), and there had been no deaths.[2] On the evening of 8 May, it was announced that the Faroes were free of COVID-19.[5]
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on May 09, 2020, 01:28:16 PM
Wearing substandard PPE is like wearing a wellie with a hole in it - except instead of a wet foot you catch CV.
I don't think b&q or homebase will have them. We got it from an agricultural suppliers when we needed it for spraying but they have been out of stock since the pandemic started.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 09, 2020, 01:39:44 PM
Tnx.  But what would sub-standard actually be?  I can't find anything that explains British Standard for PPE.  People are also confusing scrubs with PPE  ::) .......... scrubs it seems can be made to of anything ............

Is your PPE re-useable?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on May 09, 2020, 04:27:55 PM
Ours can be used up to 3 times. When they were short of PPE they changed the guidelines so they could be disinfected and be worn again (I think they said up to 3 times but not sure). Medical staff weren't happy about it. Yes, scrubs are different, usually cotton so definitely not virus-proof. Our PPE looks like it has a plastic coating. Any imperfections in the material makes it useless. Or it could be seams that are the problem.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 09, 2020, 06:53:21 PM
So why not down grade it to use in other Depts.?  Or why didn't someone from Trading Standards fly out to check it over ? 

I go to bed every night breathing a big sigh and woke every morning; wondering ..........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on May 09, 2020, 08:52:07 PM
Sweaty to wear. It's not something you'd choose to wear if you didn't have to, scrubs would be much more comfortable. Trading standards don't fly to inspect anything else so not sure why they would for this? And perhaps they need testing equipment that's in the UK.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 10, 2020, 08:54:54 AM
Someone should have flown to check B4 purchasing?  The Tax payer will again foot that particular bill?

sheila99 - is the garment coated with a plasticiser or something? 

I read an interesting article in the Telegraph yesterday, if I remember I will fish it out and try to find a link. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on May 10, 2020, 10:04:16 AM
From what I have read from tweets from nursing staff, it's not the staff on Covid wards that are dying.  It's the staff that are on general wards, as they are at the back of the queue for PPE.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 10, 2020, 11:32:00 AM
No staff should be catching any virus and dying.  Regardless!  Where are the Consultants in all this, they head up the various specialities.  Seems there's a huge gap in communication somewhere ..........  :'(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on May 10, 2020, 11:45:24 AM
No staff should be catching any virus and dying.  Regardless!  Where are the Consultants in all this, they head up the various specialities.  Seems there's a huge gap in communication somewhere ..........  :'(

Apparently a group of senior doctors are putting together a legal case against the government.   
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 10, 2020, 12:33:09 PM
Tnk goodness!  If they live long enough to put it forwards  :-\  :'(

There's plenty keeping alert - Police Officers when people are trying to get some sunshine; curtain twitchers telling on their neighbours ...... most of the advice is aimed at those in London  :-\

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on May 10, 2020, 12:51:22 PM
No staff should be catching any virus and dying.  Regardless!  Where are the Consultants in all this, they head up the various specialities.  Seems there's a huge gap in communication somewhere ..........  :'(

Apparently a group of senior doctors are putting together a legal case against the government.   

How are they going to prove that they caught it in a hospital, doctors and nurses have unfortunately died of the virus, but who can know where they caught it, petrol station, bus, shop, anyone they have been close to when outside the hospital.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 10, 2020, 12:54:55 PM
That is the problem.   We've been out in the car once since lockdown 2 a supermarket where restrictions were in place: I have wiped steering wheel etc. with meths on our return and down the Council bins - so the advice to swab surfaces with boiled, soapy water with bleach or wipe down with meths has been important here. 

Carriers remain the danger thus far.  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 14, 2020, 05:31:53 PM
this came to light earlier in the week:

Coronavirus may have been in Britain two months before the first confirmed cases, after choir singers were struck down following the return of a member's partner from Wuhan.

Jane Hall, who sings in the Voice of Yorkshire choir and All Together Now community choir, said friends in both groups had fallen ill in January with one member experiencing symptoms consistent with Covid-19 as early as late December.

The first singer to become ill was the partner of a businessman who had returned from a trip to Wuhan in mid-December and developed a hacking cough.

The first confirmed cases in the UK were in February this year, when two members of the same family became sick while staying at a hotel in York city centre.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Padine on May 14, 2020, 06:21:15 PM
Interesting CLKD and sadly not surprising. The main choir I sing with cancelled our end of season concert,  the plan being to have it in November instead. Now (for health and safety's sake) we will not be meeting for rehearsals until January 2021. The average age of the choir is approx 70 and although I am quite a bit younger than that, and disappointed not to sing, meet up with friends, and try to return to some form of normality, I'm pleased that H+S is being observed. There would be the concert too, which would see a crowd of people gathering together in the same space.

             I don't know of anyone who has the virus but I do know of stupid, thoughtless folk who have a complete disregard of the safety guidelines, and of course, THEY won't be the ones who get this virus will they? (I don't wish it on them). One family is continuing to child-mind for their grandchildren - what message is that giving to young people? And the Govt want to have social distancing at schools???? I wonder who thought of back to school on 1st June? It sure as anything wouldn't have been any teachers - oh no - how on earth would they know what's best for future generations? And I don't know if it will be too early in August either the way things are going. Expensive babysitters, that's what these poor teachers will be ...........................oh dear, best get off this soapbox now before I fall off it and bruise some of my good ribs  :bang: :hotflash:
                       Padine (a grumpy one  >:() xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 14, 2020, 06:38:11 PM
But children don't get this particular virus and sometimes, grandparents have step in. ?

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on May 14, 2020, 07:51:19 PM
Children do get the virus,  just not as badly or often.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Padine11 on May 14, 2020, 08:57:21 PM
And so do teachers who go home to their families.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 15, 2020, 08:33:34 AM
I'd heard of Kawasaki ........ awful if not recognised  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kathleen on May 15, 2020, 02:47:17 PM
Hello ladies.

French doctors have discovered COVID19  in the autopsies of people who died from pneumonia in November last year. This proves that the virus was active in Europe at the end of last year.

I believe that Kawasaki disease can also be brought on by other viruses. There is an illness common in young children known as 'Slapped cheek' because is causes a rash on the cheek. There are no other symptoms and the  child usually makes a full recovery.

I think we are all waiting with bated breath to see if the changes to lockdown lead to another surge in cases. Let's hope not but only time will tell.

Wishing everyone well.

K.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 15, 2020, 03:42:06 PM
It has elsewhere though  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 15, 2020, 04:15:00 PM
Six firefighters at one station in Glasgow have tested positive for coronavirus.

Staff were tested after an outbreak at Springburn Community Fire Station in the north of the city.

The base has now been deep-cleaned and the staff involved are in self-isolation.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 15, 2020, 04:18:13 PM
Another resident at a Skye care home at the centre of a coronavirus outbreak has died - bringing the total number of fatalities at the facility to nine.

A total of 49 residents and staff have tested positive at Home Farm care home in Portree.

The Care Inspectorate has raised "serious and significant concerns" about the facility following an unannounced visit on Tuesday.

It prompted NHS Highland to intervene, and it is now effectively running Home Farm.

The Care Inspectorate is also taking court action in an attempt to cancel HC One's registration to run the facility.


where were the Care Inspectorate prior to C-19?  A bit like the CQC - pop up when they think they ought to?  Still waiting for the 1 that looked at the place where Mum stays to realise that the Facebook page isn't private  :-\ which is what they were 'told' but it seems they never check the info given to them.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 15, 2020, 06:45:04 PM
But who took it 'in'  >:(.      Same as earlier, a Manager of a Care Home was telling a reporter that a hospital had discharged a resident back to her care, without filling in the Discharge letter.  It was known in the Hospital that this resident had tested positive for Covid.   :'( But without being aware, the Staff didn't know to take physical barrier care  >:(.  Heads SHOULD ROLL.  3 days later the resident died. 

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 15, 2020, 06:49:48 PM
Who can be tested:
Our priority is testing patients to inform their clinical diagnosis.

You can apply to get a test if you?re in one of the following groups:

all essential workers including NHS and social care workers with symptoms (see the full list of essential workers)

people over 65 with symptoms

people with symptoms going to work who cannot work from home (for example, construction workers, shop workers, emergency plumbers and delivery drivers)

anyone who has symptoms of coronavirus and lives with any of those identified above


Additionally, we are testing:

social care workers and residents in care homes, with or without symptoms, both to investigate outbreaks and, following successful pilots, as part of a rolling programme to test all care homes (see the guidance for care home residents and workers in England)
NHS workers and patients without symptoms, in line with NHS England guidance


so much for stay at home, save the NHS - what about those in the queue to be tested if others have symptoms  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 15, 2020, 07:33:26 PM
that's up the store managers as well as customers ........ maybe an e-mail from those un-comfortable to the Manager and CEO of the Company as well as phone film?

Our Garden Centres were OK with distancing, 1 way systems etc.. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on May 15, 2020, 07:34:20 PM
In Wales they test around 1,400 people a day, we are going to be staying in for a very long time  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on May 15, 2020, 09:10:52 PM
Who can be tested:
Our priority is testing patients to inform their clinical diagnosis.

You can apply to get a test if you?re in one of the following groups:

all essential workers including NHS and social care workers with symptoms (see the full list of essential workers)

people over 65 with symptoms

people with symptoms going to work who cannot work from home (for example, construction workers, shop workers, emergency plumbers and delivery drivers)

anyone who has symptoms of coronavirus and lives with any of those identified above


Additionally, we are testing:

social care workers and residents in care homes, with or without symptoms, both to investigate outbreaks and, following successful pilots, as part of a rolling programme to test all care homes (see the guidance for care home residents and workers in England)
NHS workers and patients without symptoms, in line with NHS England guidance


so much for stay at home, save the NHS - what about those in the queue to be tested if others have symptoms  :-\
  I have been tested this week before having my op yesterday. Also my lodger is going to be tested very soon. He got a letter from the NHS this week asking him to take part. They will post the kit to him.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on May 15, 2020, 09:20:00 PM
Did U survive the op.?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 06, 2020, 06:42:48 PM
Cedar Primary School in Northampton, which had partly reopened on Monday, closed on Wednesday after two support staff tested positive for the virus.

Two unions reported the David Ross Education Trust (DRET) over concerns with its Covid reporting procedure.

DRET has been approached for comment.

Unison and the GMB's complaint against the trust, which was founded by Carphone Warehouse boss David Ross, came before the Cedar Primary outbreak was known.

All of its 25 staff have now been tested for Covid-19.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 07, 2020, 05:46:09 PM
No new deaths to coronavirus have been registered in Scotland in the past 24 hours for the first time since the early days of the pandemic.

Health Secretary Jeane Freeman cautioned that fewer deaths were recorded at weekends, and warned further deaths were "still likely".

Latest Scottish government figures show 15,621 people have tested positive for Covid-19.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 09, 2020, 08:26:49 AM
Years One, Six and Reception classes returned to the classroom on Monday 1 June.

Since then two school staff have been confirmed positive, while two results have come back negative and eight are still waiting, according to Lincolnshire County Council.

The affected schools are in Lincoln, Boston, Gainsborough and Grantham.

Two Lincoln schools have already confirmed cases, with one closing completely and the other sending a "bubble" of classmates and teachers home.

On Friday, Bishop King Church of England primary school closed after a member of staff tested positive for coronavirus.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 09, 2020, 04:57:47 PM
A school in The New Forest has been closed after a pupil tested positive for Covid-19.

Pennington Infant School said staff were made aware that a child had the virus over the weekend.

Deputy head teacher Amy Wake said the "difficult decision" to close was based on "precautionary advice".

The affected pupil is in isolation with their immediate family. Staff and pupils within the child's "bubble" have been told to self-isolate


Seemed a good idea by the UK government - to get everyone back to work by making kids return to school?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 16, 2020, 12:17:59 PM
Two women tested positive for C-19 when they arrived in NZ.  They don't know apparently where they may have picked it up  :-\.  To see a relative who was dying ...........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 16, 2020, 03:45:16 PM
It isn't certain if they are UK Nationals, from NZ or others. ....... Spain wants us, France doesn't  ::) - no surprise there then  :D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Salad on June 16, 2020, 03:53:03 PM
From the UK.No one's going to want us and who can blame them?

I thought the same thing   ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 16, 2020, 04:02:39 PM
 ;D ............ with weather like we've had, no need to go abroad anyway ;-). 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on June 16, 2020, 05:36:15 PM
They are NZ nationals.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 16, 2020, 06:36:59 PM
 :thankyou:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 23, 2020, 10:46:38 AM
I no longer wake/go to sleep wondering if and when  :-\

We are keeping our distance as much as possible.   However:

Hundreds of workers have tested positive for coronavirus at meat processing plants and abattoirs.
They include a chicken processing site in Anglesey, where more than 150 workers [out of over 580] have become infected with Covid-19, and plants in Wrexham and West Yorkshire. [and Leicestershire]

There have also been major outbreaks in Germany, France, Spain and the US.

Bev Clarkson from the union Unite, says: "Unite has warned time and again that coronavirus outbreaks at meat processing factories throughout the UK were likely".

Why are meat workers getting coronavirus?

People get infected with coronavirus from droplets, which may be coughed, sneezed or exhaled by an infected person.

The infection may come through close contact with the person or by touching infected surfaces.

"Factories and, in particular, indoor areas which are cold and damp, are perfect environments for coronavirus to linger and spread," according to Lawrence Young, Professor of Molecular Oncology at the University of Warwick.

"Virus-containing droplets from infected individuals are more likely to spread, settle and stay viable."


But all these operators are in full PPE ...........  :-\

Also: early on in the pandemic in a hospital an empty isolation room was infected by a virus similar to C-19.  A metal bed was coated with a sample and within 8 hours, it had spread throughout that floor.  ? air conditioning ? : coughs and sneezes even though people were gowned and masked? : this room was a no-go area for those other than who were barrier nursing so there was no reason for entry.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on June 23, 2020, 12:50:25 PM
The workers in these factories can come into the uk without quarantine, Romania and Poland have high infection rates and this type of industry employs them here and in Germany.  Its not pleasant work in cold damp conditions and perfect for viruses to survive. 

This type of industry has been in the spotlight in the past, it needs much more scrutiny. If anything comes from these outbreaks I hope its better working conditions and better hygiene.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 23, 2020, 03:07:20 PM
My sister lives close to the Factory (over 580 workers there) on Anglesey and she says that they are all Eastern Europeans.  That's surely racist, like their lives don't matter  :-\ flown in to keep the Factories operational. 

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on June 23, 2020, 03:26:13 PM
My sister lives close to the Factory (over 580 workers there) on Anglesey and she says that they are all Eastern Europeans.  That's surely racist, like their lives don't matter  :-\ flown in to keep the Factories operational.

Interesting and sad. Have you got proof that they've been 'flown in' to work in this factory? Have the original workers been furloughed?

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 23, 2020, 04:36:21 PM
On an Island 1 soon knows what's what  ::) - I believe they were flown in due to the increased demand on products at the various UK Factories. 

Leicester have 3 new testing stations set up due to a food processing Factory having C-19 symptoms in their work force  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on June 23, 2020, 04:38:24 PM
I think its always eastern europeans that work in these plants, the work  is unpleasant and I dont think many locals would work for poor wages in the conditions. There is/was some sort of meat processing plant around here, the job adverts were in Polish only even though they were in a website advertising local jobs.


Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kathleen on June 23, 2020, 05:43:42 PM
Hello ladies.

The meat packing factories in America have been closed for a few weeks due to COVID infecting the workers. Germany has had the same problem. 
In the US they thought the virus spread easily because it was impossible to social distance on the production line however the workers wear plastic aprons and gloves etc which should offer some protection. The latest theory is that the virus prefers cold conditions so a chilly factory floor would help it to spread in the atmosphere.

The more we can learn the better but that takes time obviously.

Take care ladies.

K.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on June 23, 2020, 06:52:39 PM
I dont eat a lot of meat but I do eat chicken, after finding out about these outbreaks I don't think ill be buying any for a few weeks at least.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 23, 2020, 07:52:50 PM
We have been buying chicken from our local butcher .......

Now tennis players have tested positive after a Tournament organised by Djocivic .........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on June 23, 2020, 07:58:28 PM
The virus won't survive cooking.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 23, 2020, 08:00:23 PM
As far as I know it isn't in UK food stuffs ?

It is however being passed somehow in these various factories - probably due to not being shown how to put on and take off PPE correctly?  Odd that it has happened across the Industry?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on June 23, 2020, 08:25:07 PM
Its a problem in my head not on the plate, any food scare stories and I cant eat the product for a long time. Ive only eaten vege sausage and burgers since working for the council and reading enviromnental health reports over 26 years ago  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on June 23, 2020, 08:39:33 PM
We don't buy cheap meat but prefer if it's gone straight from the farm to the butchers.  Same with sausages.  A lot of the very cheap stuff comes from abroad and you can't guarantee animal welfare.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on June 23, 2020, 09:29:22 PM
Maybe food production factories are in the spotlight because they remained open when other factories were shut? Seasonal agricultural workers were flown in but I hadn't heard of any factory workers.
You can guarantee welfare standards of food atm as it's governed by the EU, I doubt the same will be true when we've left.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on June 24, 2020, 06:38:28 AM
We have lots of gaps in the food proceasing industries: i.e. chickens bred in France, being flown here and labelled as 'UK' ......

Also why now?  Why now are factory workers testing positive?  It isn't clear if these have shown symptoms or if it's the fact that the testing kits have arrived .........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on July 20, 2020, 04:41:49 PM
Six people have tested positive for coronavirus in an outbreak at a test and trace call centre in North Lanarkshire.

"Sitel", which carries out contact tracing for NHS England, said it was aware of a "local outbreak" at its Motherwell site.

Deputy First Minister John Swinney told BBC Radio's Good Morning Scotland the call centre has been closed.
He said "extensive contact tracing" was under way.

Sitel said it was "urgently investigating" the outbreak with Public Health Scotland.

The company said it had requested that all staff who have been working at the site undergo testing within the next 24 hours.
A spokeswoman for NHS Test and Trace said everyone at the site is currently working from home while a deep clean takes place.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on July 21, 2020, 11:53:09 AM
Fresh fruit and flower suppliers to major supermarkets have had an outbreak of Covid-19, public health officials have confirmed.

MM Flowers and AM Fresh UK, based on one site in Alconbury, Cambridgeshire, have seen 26 employees test positive.
The firms, which employ 550 full-time staff and 300 agency workers, said they were working with Public Health England to trace the source of the outbreak.

Public Health England said it would issue a statement later.

A spokeswoman for the flower company said: "Like many organisations, AM Fresh UK and MM Flowers have taken extensive steps to ensure the safety of their people and their continued operation providing fresh produce and cut flowers.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jaycee on July 23, 2020, 08:02:15 PM
Our town has had no outbreaks for about 3 weeks amongst others, but Blackburn and Darwin are on a par with Leicester now, but i have read on facebook that a lot of locals are saying they wont wear face masks
I have been wearing one for shopping
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on July 24, 2020, 06:39:20 AM
Facebook is a hive of anarchy  ::).  Picky. 

The Police have stated that they don't have enough officers to be active on advising those that don't want to cover up.    Another bus driver was attacked yesterday when he refused a passenger entry as they wouldn't wear a mask  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on July 24, 2020, 08:37:33 AM
Stores don't have to serve anyone.   But the aggro they are likely to face isn't worth the hassle.  Keeping a queue 2 go in might be 1 way of sorting it, people power? 

Two crew from an F1 Team tested positive last week ........... whether there were carriers is not known.  All Teams are being temp tested twice a day and swab tested regularly.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on July 24, 2020, 08:40:59 AM
I think most people will comply but a statement today from Asda and Sainsbury's is that they won't report customers who don't wear a mask,said it isn't their job.

Now doing click and collect for my food shop.  I won't be going in shops unless I know what I want, and can be in and out asap. 

No more browsing for me.   
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kathleen on July 24, 2020, 09:28:45 AM
Hello ladies.

Many of my friends have been using Click and Collect since the beginning of Lockdown and they say they will continue.   I thought the  social distancing and hand sanitising measures in shops were pretty good so I have been happy to shop in person.

We must all do whatever we can to feel safe and keep well.

Take care everyone.
K.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on July 24, 2020, 10:01:47 AM
So far Wales advice is wash and sanitise your hands rather than wear a mask, unfortunately I see people walk straight past the sanitisers  :-\

I will be interested to hear your experiences, so far I havent worn a mask, although I have bought some reusable types ready  :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: littleminnie on July 24, 2020, 11:47:09 AM
I’ve bought some 2 ply washable ones.  The 3 ply ones are a lot thicker and some people have said it’s harder to breathe.  Don’t fancy that.
It will be a very quick shop from now on. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on July 24, 2020, 01:05:45 PM
I'm still shopping on line.
OH gets any bits and pieces after he's finished work of a morning.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on July 24, 2020, 02:01:04 PM
I love my cotton masks in different patterns.  For a short while.  They look like teen bras and wash easily  ;)

How often are the sanitiser plunges washed though  :-\ ............ and door handles and trolley handles, R GP surgery doesn't seem to be bothered any longer  :-\ .
Title: Pets and Coronavirus
Post by: CLKD on July 27, 2020, 01:49:01 PM
Cats - apparently.  Don't panic, it's 1 thus far.

A pet cat has tested positive in the UK for the strain of coronavirus that is causing the current pandemic.
Experts say it is the first confirmed case of infection in an animal in the UK but does not mean the disease is being spread to people by their pets.
It's thought the cat caught coronavirus from its owner, who had previously tested positive for the virus. Both have now recovered.

UK chief veterinary officer Christine Middlemiss said: "This is a very rare event, with infected animals detected to date only showing mild clinical signs and recovering within in a few days.

"There is no evidence to suggest that pets directly transmit the virus to humans. We will continue to monitor this situation closely and will update our guidance to pet owners should the situation change."

Yvonne Doyle, Public Health England's director for health protection, advised people to wash their hands regularly, including before and after contact with animals.

An animal's fur could carry the virus for a time if a pet were to have come into contact with someone who was sick.

A private vet initially diagnosed feline herpes virus - a common cat respiratory infection - but the sample was also tested for Sars-Cov-2 as part of a research programme.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on August 30, 2020, 06:09:06 PM
It will be interesting to see if any of those attending raves i.e. in Thetford Forest, 'go down' with C-19.  Apparently there are so many in Thetford that the Police have taken a wait and watch approach.  There's also a horse fair in Buckingham area ........... 'under C-19 guidelines' .  Apparently.

Now University Students are being told not to attend  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on September 08, 2020, 05:26:54 PM
The young people are apparently angry that 'they' are being blamed for the spread of the virus.  They don't get that they could be carriers having never had symptoms or could be minimally infected .........

They seem unaware that they could carry this virus to vulnerable people.  Why they feel that they are 'blamed' - it's a fact that during certain outbreaks of certain illnesses children and/or young people are super spreaders  :-\

Some UK Colleges are taking steps to test all students and staff - don't know how often during Term or whether it's a private testing company but I think it's a good idea.

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Ju Ju on September 08, 2020, 06:59:39 PM
I agree it’s not a matter of blame. It just is. I shall carry on with life as I have the last few months. Home deliveries, buying on line and avoiding getting close to people, which is easy where I live.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on September 08, 2020, 09:25:30 PM
We don't have a friendship group that we have to meet with.  We've got good at the waving across the street ;-)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: C.C. on September 08, 2020, 11:04:15 PM
The numbers are creeping back up again in my province.  We just had a long weekend and people were not behaving by not wearing their masks and partying to celebrate without physical distancing. Its kind of concerning since school is starting next Monday. 
The grocery stores are still mandating masks, and are sanitizing the grocery carts and making sure people follow the distance stickers at the cash registers, but are not all that busy.  I think alot are still ordering groceries online as well as meal kits.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on September 09, 2020, 01:14:51 PM
Up to 300 people who attended a charity football match are being told to self-isolate after 28 people tested positive for Covid-19.

The event at Burnside Working Men's Club (WMC), in Fencehouses on the border of Sunderland and Durham, took place on 30 August.
Anyone who attended must self-isolate for 14 days from then.

Burnside WMC said "if we knew at the time what we know now" then the match "would never have gone ahead".

In a statement it wished everyone affected a "speedy recovery" and admitted safety precautions on the day "were not strict enough".

Durham County Council has been working with Sunderland City Council and Public Health England to manage the response.


'if we knew at the time ........ " have these guys lived in a cave  >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on September 15, 2020, 02:15:24 PM
Matt Hancock has suggested that no one should have to travel 'more than 75 miles' in order to get a test.   :-\  Is that 75 miles there and back?  With a sick child, running a temperature?  Who may be better at home being sponged down with Calpol?  A journalist from Cardiff was offered a test in Lancashire recently ......... for his young child.   :-\

It was forecast that testing would be overwhelmed.  Even front-line staff can't access essential testing which takes them out of the employment chain  >:(. Surely by now GPs should be able to do local testing?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on September 30, 2020, 11:13:41 AM
Crikey.  These students who want to be adults really should take on board the sacrifices others are making!

Who ever is responsible for the Halls should be taken to Court and fined.  Heavily.  Any student spoken to by the Police should be sent down immediately!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on September 30, 2020, 02:37:23 PM
Eight patients have died with coronavirus at a hospital where 82 cases have been linked to an outbreak on the site.

Planned surgeries have been temporarily stopped at the Royal Glamorgan Hospital in Llantrisant as part of a plan to manage the outbreak.

Patients who would usually be taken to A&E in an emergency will also be sent elsewhere.

The temporary measures come into force at 14:00 BST on Wednesday.

Cwm Taf Morgannwg health board said it believed about three-quarters of the 82 cases were infections caught at the hospital and that of those caught in hospital, there had been eight deaths.

Two hospital wards closed after outbreak


Six of those 82 patients are in intensive care, although that figure has fallen by one since last week. The health board does not believe they caught the virus while at the hospital.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 06, 2020, 12:11:03 PM
My sister had a test on Sunday result today was positive  :o she doesn't have symptoms except shes tired, she had to get a test after a friend in work tested positive on Sunday.

I met my sister last Thursday we both wore masks and I have no symptoms but I’ve been to get a test done this morning, it was easy to arrange and its local, I have to wait and see now, should find out on Thursday  :)

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on October 06, 2020, 12:15:59 PM
Fingers crossed 🤞 TH.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 06, 2020, 12:21:06 PM
How long for symptoms to appear once we have been in contact with someone 'infected'?  Hopefully you won't have symptoms!  Is it an NHS test, deep in the throat and up the nose?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 06, 2020, 12:32:49 PM
So Trump - back at the White House already  :-\ ........... a publicity stunt ?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 06, 2020, 01:01:25 PM
Fingers crossed 🤞 TH.

Im hoping I have it because I’m feeling ok, it would be a very mild case for me  :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 06, 2020, 01:17:14 PM
What you plan on doing during the next 14 days: that'll be le Giro then  ;)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 06, 2020, 02:06:16 PM
Im on the NHS app and thats saying I have to isolate for 9 days, I’ve heard 7 and 14 days but 9 is a bit random, and yes I’ll be watching cycling  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 06, 2020, 02:20:17 PM
When was your sister in contact with the carrier-person?  How long did the result take to be returned?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 06, 2020, 02:34:35 PM
Her friend walks into work with her, just a few minutes but on Thursday not long after getting in her friend was told a family member was positive so she booked a test on Thursday, result back Saturday saying she was also positive.  So on Saturday my sister booked a test for Sunday morning and she had a text at 2am today saying she was also positive, I’m hoping to get the result on Thursday.

The only symptoms any have had are a slight runny nose and a background headache, nothing I would connect to Covid  :o
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 06, 2020, 02:54:47 PM
Sense of taste and smell OK?  Practice on warm, melted chocolate ;-)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 06, 2020, 03:30:57 PM
A hospital has gone into partial lockdown after an outbreak of coronavirus.

Over the weekend a "small number" of seriously-ill patients in St Helier Hospital's intensive care unit and renal ward tested positive for Covid-19.

The hospital has restricted visiting affected sites.

The Sutton hospital launched a major investigation into how the infection has spread.

Hospital Director, Dr Ruth Charlton, said: “The safety and wellbeing of our patients and staff is our priority.

"Those who tested positive have been isolated from other patients.


Forgive me but by now shouldn't Hopsitals be virus free  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 09, 2020, 09:05:27 AM
Got an email at 00.49 saying I’m negative  :) My sister is relieved she hasnt spread it, maybe the masks worked  ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 09, 2020, 10:26:30 AM
That's great news.  How is your sister feeling?  When I had measles I was fine until I looked in the mirror on day 3  :o  >:( then I felt really ill  :-\

Still in lockdown where you R?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 09, 2020, 11:55:06 AM
I feel ok, nothing more than a bit run down. 

One of my sisters symptoms is a rash on the top of her foot, its a red itchy patch.  She spoke to a pharmacist today who has given her cream to put on it and confirmed its a covid symptom, I dont  think its publicised as a symptom for adults to look out for.

Yes still in lockdown, its really getting out of hand, the Welsh government cant keep us like this for ever, Compared to parts of England our rates are very low, here its 53 per 100,000 yet I am not allowed to leave the area, consider yourself very lucky you live in England.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 09, 2020, 12:17:26 PM
But children can leave 'hotspots' to take part in Sport  ::)

A rash on the foot - that's new? 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on October 09, 2020, 12:22:09 PM
I'd rather have the Welsh version. Anyone from a highly infected area can go and infect people in safer areas in England. Perhaps that's why your rates are lower.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 09, 2020, 12:44:31 PM
Unless all the country, Wales, England and Scotland stop unnecessary travel its not going to work, it feels very unfair  :(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 09, 2020, 01:17:53 PM
Does any1 feel that a 2 weeks UK lockdown would be beneficial?

Hair salons, nail salons, GPs, Hospitals, Vet., dental surgeries should all be OK as they are hygienic anyway.  Visit shops as we did when necessary or have deliveries.  Shut all bars:

Apparently any premises that has an alcohol licence has to shut even if they can close off the bar area 2 the public.  So Hotels have to shut ...  but cafes remain open if they don't sell wine etc.; these's no logic or am I more confused than B4  :-\

In Hotels it's easy to not serve alcohol.  Each establishment should be merited ............ a bit bad if 1 is in a Hotel that has to shut due to an alcohol licence, does 1 have to head home ..........  :-\. I would cling to the duvet ;-)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on October 09, 2020, 01:37:58 PM
Well here we shouldn't mix with any other households, in the house or garden, BUT we can meet other people at the pub, or for a meal. As long as it's not more than 6. Ridiculous!
Which is why I think people here are still mixing in their houses. I personally see it everyday.
Now whether these people are fed up with it all and doing their own thing, OR they don't know about the restrictions, is anyone's guess. 🤷‍♀️
I'm not sure another lockdown will sort it out tbh. It's going to be here until we get a vaccine just like all the other illnesses from back in the day. 🤷‍♀️

I've been reading today about Derek Draper. He's in a bad way. Not sure he'll be home now until next spring time. Such a shame. It's left him with multiple illnesses. I feel so,sorry for his wife and family. ( Kate Garraway) .
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 09, 2020, 01:50:11 PM
Kate has aged 20 years in the last few months  :'(

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 09, 2020, 02:28:30 PM
Poor Kate she seems a lovely person, it must be awful for the children as well.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 09, 2020, 03:48:12 PM
She us going to be on Gardeners World tonight, I saw a clip of it, it looked very moving  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 09, 2020, 04:14:41 PM
I saw that info a few moments ago  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on October 09, 2020, 05:22:15 PM
Got an email at 00.49 saying I’m negative  :) My sister is relieved she hasnt spread it, maybe the masks worked  ::)
Really good but you still have to stay in quarantine until next week don't you? I got another of those Covid warnings on my phone but no message as the 1st time.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 09, 2020, 06:21:46 PM
Yes Im staying home until Thursday.

If you have been in contact with someone with covid the app will give you a countdown, unless you get that countdown I would ignore the messages that suddenly appear and disappear, I hope none of you ever gets to see the flashing countdown  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 09, 2020, 07:54:09 PM
North Wales under restrictions from 2morrow  :o
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 09, 2020, 08:49:53 PM
Not Anglesey.  No cases there.  Yet  ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: C.C. on October 09, 2020, 10:58:24 PM
There were more than 900 cases reported today in my part of the province. So now the main hotspots (large cities mostly) will be temporarily reverting back to a previous stage, only modified.  Gyms and movie theatres will be closed, restaurants will be take out only and a few other restrictions.  Schools and day cares remain open. Thankfully I don't live in one of the hotspots so I won't be affected, for now.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 10, 2020, 07:24:01 AM
Morning C.C. keep that mask on!

Apparently the UK government are clutching ideas from the air as there have been few cases relating to eateries.  One hotelier was telling Jeremy Vine that not one person had C-19 in his area - he did say local towns but the names didn't mean anything - and none of his sector had infections. But of course, it's easy target; hotels and pubs..

That doesn't explain the sudden increase of hospital admissions but until we know where these patients are from, i.e. cities, crowded areas etc., it remains a learning curve  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 10, 2020, 08:51:21 AM
A number of people have died in an Edinburgh hospital following an outbreak of Covid-19 on a cancer ward.

Six other patients have been confirmed with the virus at Edinburgh Western General Hospital.

NHS Lothian says it is investigating the outbreak and the ward has been closed to new admissions and discharges to allow tests to be carried out.
Patients and staff are being screened for the virus as part of the health board's response.


 >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on October 10, 2020, 10:18:47 AM
A number of people have died in an Edinburgh hospital following an outbreak of Covid-19 on a cancer ward.

Six other patients have been confirmed with the virus at Edinburgh Western General Hospital.

NHS Lothian says it is investigating the outbreak and the ward has been closed to new admissions and discharges to allow tests to be carried out.
Patients and staff are being screened for the virus as part of the health board's response.


 >:(
Very sad ! Cancer is hard at the best of times but to get Covid while in hospital.....
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on October 10, 2020, 11:31:35 AM
A number of people have died in an Edinburgh hospital following an outbreak of Covid-19 on a cancer ward.

Six other patients have been confirmed with the virus at Edinburgh Western General Hospital.

NHS Lothian says it is investigating the outbreak and the ward has been closed to new admissions and discharges to allow tests to be carried out.
Patients and staff are being screened for the virus as part of the health board's response.


 >:(
Very sad ! Cancer is hard at the best of times but to get Covid while in hospital.....

None of this surprises me.  We have had trouble in Kent hospitals, with poor Covid control measures.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/ashford/news/string-of-hygiene-issues-at-covid-ravaged-hospital-233662/
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 10, 2020, 11:38:57 AM
 :-[.  Hasty I stand corrected  :o - I had completely forgotten my sister's reports of the factory close to where she lives having an outbreak.   :-\.

Surely after all this time: with the general public being controlled by being told can/can't mix: that Hospitals at the very least should be places of safety!?!  Apparently the hand held 4head thermometers often give a wrong reading  :-\ it is better to have a mouth thermometer but of course it takes longer to get a proper temp..

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 10, 2020, 08:25:52 PM
I had the advice from a Pharamacist when I asked which is best.  Somewhere we have a thermometer  ::) and every time I am not near a chemist I think we ought to buy another.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on October 10, 2020, 08:44:32 PM
I can lend you the one I have for the horse. I'll wash it first, honest...  :sick02:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 11, 2020, 08:20:09 AM
 ;D - I think that I will buy 2 in case 1 requires to check if the 1st one reads correctly ;-)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 14, 2020, 01:04:14 PM
Its my last day of isolating

 :parti: :parti: :parti: :parti: :parti: :parti:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: C.C. on October 14, 2020, 01:27:06 PM
Yay!! ;D

No phone call from public health... my pre-surgery covid test is negative  :clapping:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 14, 2020, 01:43:01 PM
Well done!  You can come out from under the duvet now  8)

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 14, 2020, 02:59:22 PM
 >:(. U really couldn't write it  :o


Used coronavirus swab tests were accidentally given out to households in Birmingham, council officials said.

Birmingham City Council said about 25 kits had been given out by mistake in the student area of Selly Oak as part of its "drop-and-collect" service.

It said the error was quickly realised, the kits remained intact and there was no evidence of cross-contamination.

However, student David Lewes, 21, said he and four housemates used the tests without realising they were not new.
"We are really distressed, shocked, violated and one of my friends threw up after finding out they had been used before," he said.

The third-year University of Birmingham student said the council team dropped the test off at their home in Tiverton Road on Tuesday evening saying they would return a few minutes later to collect them.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on October 14, 2020, 04:49:07 PM
Its my last day of isolating

 :parti: :parti: :parti: :parti: :parti: :parti:

Yes I thought of you this morning because i saw an article from the Independent explaining how the Covid alerts on the phone work and confirming that the one which I got doesn't count.  :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on October 14, 2020, 06:33:57 PM
Yep, unbelievable! 🤬 It said on our local news tonight, some of the tests they'd sent out, HAD been used, and that some people used them again. 🙀🙀🙀🤮🤮🤮🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️
I'm so glad we refused the tests when they came knocking on our door the other week.
The place where these 'used tests' were sent out, isn't far from us. So at that time, we could've been given one. 🙀
What a stupid mistake to make! 🤬
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 14, 2020, 06:53:07 PM
Yuk yuk yuk, someone else's snot wiped in your tonsils  :sick02:

I had to tear open the package my swab came in  :great:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on October 14, 2020, 08:41:05 PM
Freedom tomorrow TH. well, freedom as we know it at the moment anyway.  :bang:
If we can call it freedom!  :neutral:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 14, 2020, 09:05:35 PM
What happened to Data Protection and Patient Confidentiality  :-\.  How can this happen in the 21st Century  :bang: :bang: :bang:

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: groundhog on October 15, 2020, 07:06:01 PM
Hi all,
My son in law has tested positive, we are all gutted.  They are super careful , work from home , shop online etc but hes obviously picked it up somewhere.  It’s dwy 5 I’m terrified he will get worse or my daughter will also get it, they have two little girls. My anxiety off the scale.  We haven’t been in direct contact with them but we have with the children but we don’t have to self isolate.
My 60th birthday tomorrow I just want them well x
Me being me go to the very worse case scenarios, wish my brain would stop torturing me x
We live in rural wales, low incidence , I just can’t quite believe it x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 15, 2020, 07:20:47 PM
Does he have symptoms?  Many people will carry viruses without feeling ill.  I would have thought that if you have been in contact with the children that you will be 2nd away from the virus and should be isolating.  At least that's what has happened to a friend who was 2 steps away from a positive result.

I'm sure that your son in law will have had advice from NHS Wales.  If he has taken the children to school, it's the most possible place.  He will have been in contact with someone - how long is the incubation period?  It depends on what is 'current' on any particular day!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: groundhog on October 15, 2020, 07:38:44 PM
Does he have symptoms?  Many people will carry viruses without feeling ill.  I would have thought that if you have been in contact with the children that you will be 2nd away from the virus and should be isolating.  At least that's what has happened to a friend who was 2 steps away from a positive result.

I'm sure that your son in law will have had advice from NHS Wales.  If he has taken the children to school, it's the most possible place.  He will have been in contact with someone - how long is the incubation period?  It depends on what is 'current' on any particular day!

Yes he does have symptoms clkd, he had a high temp and body aches.  My daughter has a splitting headache tonight but could be stress.  I haven’t heard of many cases in the town that’s what I don’t get but as you say it doesn’t take much . I’m trying to stop my mind going to these awful places.
It might be an idea to get tested just for peace of mind if nothing else. Just keep in mind younger folks rarely suffer any more than a few days of symptoms.
Get tested and try not to worry.



Thank you.  My son in law is 41 and my daughter 36 so quite young I suppose . I’m just a shocking worrier and I thunk of the children if someth8ng was to happen but I know most ppl have mild symptoms. We’ve been so brainwashed about this disease I’m just terrified for them now, I’m nit really worried about myself which is daft .
Oh dear horrible times x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 15, 2020, 07:45:53 PM
Of course these symptoms could so easily be 'flu so best that he got a test.  What has he been advised with regards pain relief etc.?  It is a worry but I am sure that your daughter can get a test and probably ought to do so.  As should the kids.

Until we are all tested to see who is a carrier we will never be on top of this Virus.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Jeepers on October 15, 2020, 08:01:16 PM
Oh groundhog, I’m so sorry to hear that, what a worrying time for you.  As others have said, the odds are that it will just be a mild case, and it will soon pass.  Keeping my fingers crossed for you and your family

Jeepers xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 15, 2020, 08:03:30 PM
It does make my thinking that if we wear masks etc. that we are unlikely to get 'flu this year  :-\.  I've had the snuffles briefly and now a friend has a heavy head cold and cough but has tested neg for C-19.  He has remained out of the way of most people other than shopping weekly when it's not busy, going for long walks alone and when necessary worn a mask!  Go figure  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 15, 2020, 08:17:10 PM
When is a 'law' not a 'law'  :-\

The Metropolitan Police has said it is taking no further action against an MP who travelled by train from London to Glasgow after testing positive for coronavirus.
The force said Margaret Ferrier had not breached laws in England which require people to self-isolate because she was tested before they came into effect.
The case is now being examined by Police Scotland.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on October 15, 2020, 09:33:21 PM
Oh Grounghog, what a worry for you.
I'm sure they'll all be ok, stay strong, and keep yourself safe, I know exactly what your going through. 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼 It'll all pass in a few days. xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 16, 2020, 07:28:28 AM
Did U sleep groundhog?  With lockdown we have too much time to think!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Annie0710 on October 16, 2020, 10:37:12 AM
Hello Ladies

One of our friends (mid 60s) called Hubby wed eve to say he’s tested positive.  He’s got no idea where he caught it.  Started with sore throat and runny nose then @day 3 the cough started.  He said he doesn’t feel ill enough for bed but doesn’t feel 100%
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: groundhog on October 16, 2020, 11:31:01 AM
Did U sleep groundhog?  With lockdown we have too much time to think!

Disrupted CLKD x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: groundhog on October 16, 2020, 11:34:00 AM
Hello Ladies

One of our friends (mid 60s) called Hubby wed eve to say he’s tested positive.  He’s got no idea where he caught it.  Started with sore throat and runny nose then @day 3 the cough started.  He said he doesn’t feel ill enough for bed but doesn’t feel 100%

My son in law has been really careful, they have two little girls so maybe they are asymptomatic as he doesn’t go anywhere ! Works from home, shops on line, went to park over weekend with girls and always keeps a distance. Bt the sneaky virus 🦠  Still got him. Headache temperature and body aches , no cough yet but we are all watching and waiting , just horrible 😞
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 16, 2020, 11:50:29 AM
Oh Annie it keeps on and on and ........ have you been in recent contact?

There are too many rules across the countries, the UK should unite and have a 2 week shutdown.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on October 16, 2020, 12:27:47 PM
What's the point? The idiots who won't wear masks or keep their distance will carry on partying as soon as the 2 weeks are up and the virus will spread again. The only lasting effect will be the increased size of the economic black hole which we will all be repaying for years.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on October 16, 2020, 12:31:48 PM
Hello Ladies

One of our friends (mid 60s) called Hubby wed eve to say he’s tested positive.  He’s got no idea where he caught it.  Started with sore throat and runny nose then @day 3 the cough started.  He said he doesn’t feel ill enough for bed but doesn’t feel 100%

To be honest Annie, the PCR test is unreliable, even the person who devised it says it's not suitable for Covid testing.  Covid is a corona virus, as is a cold and what your friend has sounds very much like a cold.  I would say it's a good candidate for a 'false positive' result.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: C.C. on October 16, 2020, 12:31:57 PM
There is talk today of more restrictions being implemented in other areas besides the hot spots. My region is seeing a spike and something could be announced this afternoon from the Premier's office.
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Post by: Shadyglade on October 16, 2020, 12:36:16 PM
Groundhog, the New Scientist magazine list 6 types of Covid symptoms.  The  symptoms that your SIL has seem to fall across the category 1 and 2 on the list.  Both these categories have a low risk of hospital admission so fingers crossed.
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Post by: Tinkerbell on October 16, 2020, 06:07:40 PM
My daughter works in care, has nursed Covid patients and received her Covid antibody test back today and it was positive, she is trying to work out when she had it.
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Post by: CLKD on October 16, 2020, 06:11:02 PM
However: many people who have been ill with C-19 to the point of needing hospital admission, haven't shown anti-bodies.

What happens to your daughter now, does she need to isolate for another test?
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Post by: Tinkerbell on October 17, 2020, 09:40:12 AM
No she doesn’t have to isolate or have another test as although she was antibody positive you can’t tell when she contacted Covid.
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Post by: Ju Ju on October 17, 2020, 10:14:25 AM
Groundhog, how are you and your family? Just seen your post. And that I missed your birthday! I hope you had a good day, despite the the circumstances.  :hbday: :cake: :party09:
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Post by: CLKD on October 17, 2020, 12:55:58 PM
How was your birthday groundhog?

Anti-body history is interesting .......
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kathleen on October 17, 2020, 01:10:26 PM
Hello ladies.

Tinkerbell -  apologies if you have already answered this question but did your daughter have COVID without developing symptoms?  If so she is fortunate to escape illness.

I saw an interview earlier with a Swedish scientist who has found COVID antibodies in blood donations that were collected before the pandemic.  The scientist wonders if even ordinary Coronavirus infections  offer some protection against COVID in some people.

Take care ladies.

K.

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Post by: Tinkerbell on October 17, 2020, 02:21:30 PM
Kathleen.....Yes no symptoms, she was offered antibody test as she has nursed elderly Covid patients in a care home. My teen son caught Covid end of March and he was very sick with it, in bed for 2 weeks.
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Post by: Shadyglade on October 17, 2020, 02:48:57 PM
Hello ladies.

Tinkerbell -  apologies if you have already answered this question but did your daughter have COVID without developing symptoms?  If so she is fortunate to escape illness.

I saw an interview earlier with a Swedish scientist who has found COVID antibodies in blood donations that were collected before the pandemic.  The scientist wonders if even ordinary Coronavirus infections  offer some protection against COVID in some people.

Take care ladies.

K.

There is a WHO research bulletin who mentions protection from previous coronavirus infections.  It also concluded that the fatality rate is much lower than first thought.

I will post the link later, when I have access to my laptop.

Here is is.


https://t.co/OyqfINQaRI?amp=1
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Penguin99 on October 17, 2020, 03:27:48 PM
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My son in law has been really careful, they have two little girls so maybe they are asymptomatic as he doesn’t go anywhere ! Works from home, shops on line, went to park over weekend with girls and always keeps a distance. Bt the sneaky virus 🦠  Still got him. Headache temperature and body aches , no cough yet but we are all watching and waiting , just horrible 😞
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Earlier this year when cases were heard of but nothing too much here, my friends mum who had copd, died very suddenly in hospital, I did the funeral flowers for her, so when my friend picked them up I hugged her, like you do, this was late February.  Well around 10 days later I had the exact symptoms you SIL has, really bad headache, never get these, whole body aching, high temp and generally feeling crap, then hubby felt the same then my sons. I do wonder if we had it, hopefully we have, but we won't know. Hubby was a shielder so we are very lucky if we did have it that thankfully no serious effects.
Hope he's feeling better soon.
 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: groundhog on October 17, 2020, 06:38:30 PM
Groundhog, the New Scientist magazine list 6 types of Covid symptoms.  The  symptoms that your SIL has seem to fall across the category 1 and 2 on the list.  Both these categories have a low risk of hospital admission so fingers crossed.

Thank you 🙏 he’s watching rugby in his cell today ( confined to spare room ) but not eating anything. My daughter looks wiped out . I went over now to take some food, left outside and had a little chat through the window,  hate it Like we all do. 
Certainly sounds like it Penguin 99 but that’s the thing, we just don’t know.
My birthday was ok thanks, I felt stressed but I did lighten up an bit, had some photos taken to mark the day , all done now x
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Post by: jillydoll on October 17, 2020, 06:50:52 PM
Penguin = my son was ill at the end January beginning of February.
We were actually on holiday and left him here at home. His work place sent him home and he stayed in bed for 3/4 days. When we came home, he was over the worst of it. He said he'd never been so ill in his life. So we're all wondering if he'd caught it, he said some people at work were coughing badly at that time and quite a few were off ill, but everyone thought it was flu. Which it may have been, but then the covid thing came out in the open, not long afterwards, ..............and it makes you wonder. 🤷‍♀️
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on October 17, 2020, 07:12:59 PM
Yes, wouldn't surprise me. We didn't know anything about it back then did we. Or if we did it was just about China.
We're the same Franny, we order online, everything we need, only popping out to the local shop if we absolutely have to. And then it's masks, gloves and sanitizer, a good hand scrub when we get in, and I still wipe all shopping down with disinfectant before putting it away.
I'm going to the crematorium Xmas time with flowers for my parents, that's the only going out I'll be doing, all Xmas presents I have to buy and send will be done on line.
It is a miserable existence! I agree. My OH and son have to go to work, that's enough stress for me as it is, incase they bring it home. Only the other day my son said 27 people were off with it. It's just a living nightmare. I've got a liver disease, so being extra careful is always in the forefront. Plus, I've seen what it done to my OH. I don't want the same to happen to me. x

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 17, 2020, 08:36:26 PM
The Choir that had 'flu-like symptoms in November/December: after a member had been to China : thought it was 'flu but different' but they couldn't put a finger on what was different.  I wonder whether anyone has thought to do anti-body tests on the Choir it seemed to go through them for about 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 17, 2020, 08:52:22 PM
I go to the top of our stairs  >:(

Birdwatchers have descended on a salt marsh to see a bird not seen in Britain for 40 years.
The rufous bush chat was spotted at Stiffkey, north Norfolk, prompting up to 100 birdwatchers to go to see it.
Native to southern Spain, Africa and the Balkans the bird, also known as the rufous warbler and rufous bush robin, is rarely seen in northern Europe.
Dick Filby, of Rare Bird Alert, said it "would have been heading for a tropical climate and went the wrong way."
He said the last time the bird was spotted in Britain was at Prawle Point in Devon in 1980.


I suppose that all the Police are turning people back on the Welsh borders  >:(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 18, 2020, 03:19:29 PM
The Police have attended.  Apparently.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Penguin99 on October 18, 2020, 07:09:31 PM
I believe so many have had it & dont know. I believe its what my friends mum died from, and as I said I hugged my friend! It's really awful and I hate it, just as everyone else does.  I just can't see an end to it. I try not to watch too much news as I tend to stress.  I saw my mum & dad last week, in their home, the first time since February, we aren't that close but it was still nice to see them.  It must be awful for those who are really close to their families and would have seen each other a few times a week.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 18, 2020, 08:16:33 PM
It's the same as other viruses, many carriers as well as deaths from those infected.  But less likely all at once and numbers don't reach the news.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jaycee on October 18, 2020, 10:00:59 PM
I'm sure i ha it in February, i don't get ill as a rule ,even when those around me are falling like flies, but i felt more than anything so tired i could hardly wakl to the shops.just round the corner,and my legs just did'nt seem to want to move, i only started feeling better about 3 weeks ago
My grand daughter has got it,she tested positive,but i wasn't surprised,she lives in Newcastle and works in a bar, but she carried on partying, with her friend who also has it.these young ones just don't seem to take it seriously.
She has only mildly thank goodness
My eldest sons friends brother only came out of hospital about a month ago, from Mrch,he lost lots of weight,but still poorly,and my daughter in laws friends sister died from it,not very old,none of them live near me
We are still on Tier 1, but more being diagnosed every day
I am just carrying on as normal, but being very careful, and washing hands etc a lot,and wearing a mask of course
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 19, 2020, 08:05:19 AM
Same here jaycee - which reminds me, I must dose the Council bins with Domestos B4 they go to the kerb and wipe the letter box.  Again  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Penguin99 on October 19, 2020, 05:38:00 PM
We were on our way back from my hospital appointment today & hubby and I were talking about this. I think they are putting these lockdown rules in certain places to stop the NHS being over run in one hit, its like its being spaced out. I personally don't see an end in near sight but eventually I think it will ease and it will be treated like the other viruses with annual vaccinations.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 19, 2020, 05:48:48 PM
I wonder whether how many Staff who did long shifts during lockdown have actually had a break  :-\ ...........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 19, 2020, 07:43:29 PM
We have been told that there are not enough 'flu jabs available across the UK  :-\ and I won't be having 1 though DH thinks he might as well as the pneumonia jab. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Penguin99 on October 19, 2020, 10:58:52 PM
My hubby is having his jab on Friday, he booked it a month ago!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on October 20, 2020, 07:09:57 AM
We booked ours yesterday for 7th  November. Also the pneumonia one which I should have had a few years ago apparently

Taz x :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on October 20, 2020, 07:46:12 AM
My husband, who is 65, has his next week.  I'm 64 and will likely not get one before Christmas, if at all.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on October 20, 2020, 07:50:39 AM
My partner's 62. New stocks arriving at our surgery each week.

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on October 20, 2020, 07:54:18 AM
My partner's 62. New stocks arriving at our surgery each week.

Taz x

Your lucky, not case in my surgery.

My neice, who is a nurse and asthmatic, had to fight to get her jab.  She was initially told that at fifty, she was at the back of the queue.

Her Surgery is the otherside of Kent, by the way.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on October 20, 2020, 08:30:02 AM
I've booked in for my flu jab on Sunday. I had the pneumonia jab a few years back.
My surgery asked if we were travelling by car or on foot. I said car. She said they're will be a parking marshal there to tell me where to park. That's new.  :o
The only parking marshals I've known about is at my sons work place. 🤷‍♀️
I'm thinking I'm to go into the tent they've erected outside for my jab, instead of going into the surgery itself.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 20, 2020, 09:37:44 AM
Morning.  Or given it through the vehicle window?  I don't see how that works as there has to be an oxygen cylinder close by in case someone reacts badly.

Several people in le Giro have tested positive  :-\
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Post by: Taz2 on October 20, 2020, 10:22:01 AM
Ours are being done in the surgery the same as for blood tests. We have a parking marshall during the usual flu clinics as it's a smallish carpark for a big influx of people.

Taz x
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Post by: C.C. on October 20, 2020, 04:20:22 PM
There are pharmacies here that are giving flu shots, I suppose to avoid overloading family doctor's offices.  Because of the high demand this year, they're ask people to register online and wait for the ok from the pharmacy to book a time.  Last year you could just show up and ask the pharmacist and get it right then.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 20, 2020, 04:22:23 PM
Does your Health Authority have oxygen cylinders to hand, in case?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 20, 2020, 04:30:13 PM
About 3,500 pupils have been sent home until November after four schools in Northamptonshire closed due to Covid-19 cases.


Does this mean that each family of each child has to isolate?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: littleminnie on October 20, 2020, 05:04:44 PM
Only if the child tests positive
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: C.C. on October 20, 2020, 05:05:05 PM
Does your Health Authority have oxygen cylinders to hand, in case?

I have never seen anything like that.  I get my flu shot at my family doctor's, there hasn't been any mention of supplemental oxygen at all.  He just jabs me in the shoulder and says see ya later! ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Two hoots on October 20, 2020, 06:34:10 PM
My better half went to Boots today to re arrange his flu jab appointment, the pharmacist did it there and then, excellent service  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on October 20, 2020, 07:37:46 PM
Ha, yep! I'll probably get mine through the car window!  ;D
There you go love, sod off now! 😂🤣😂. NEXT ! 😂
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Jane50 on October 20, 2020, 10:04:23 PM
Had mine done at Tesco pharmacy about 3 weeks ago. I always get anxiety symptoms after the jab which I try to ignore as they do settle after an hour or so. Not sure if it's a mental or physical thing . Or just hormones joining in!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Penguin99 on October 20, 2020, 10:49:52 PM
My husband is medically vulnerable,  he had a text for a flu jab so we phoned straight away when he got it, a months wait! Its being done at our surgery, they've got big signs on the door " flu vaccine this way" he said to me tonight, I don't know whether its a good or bad thing and whether its worth having >:(
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Post by: Salad on October 21, 2020, 07:05:40 AM
Mine’s being done at the village Bowling Club  ???

I had to stay for 20 minutes at the doctor’s after the Pneumonia jab incase I had a reaction, hope they’ve got everything they need at the club.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on October 21, 2020, 08:59:40 AM
What like Salad, bowling balls? I'm sure they will have.  ;D  Quick game or two before you leave?  ;D


Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: littleminnie on October 21, 2020, 11:53:10 AM
Very quick and efficient at Asda pharmacy. £8
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 21, 2020, 12:35:11 PM
Paying for something that should be on the NHS  :-\ I don't think so.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Ju Ju on October 21, 2020, 02:06:08 PM
My husband is medically vulnerable,  he had a text for a flu jab so we phoned straight away when he got it, a months wait! Its being done at our surgery, they've got big signs on the door " flu vaccine this way" he said to me tonight, I don't know whether its a good or bad thing and whether its worth having >:(

I’m vulnerable and got the text. I had to wait a month. I have had the jab every year since I was very ill after a minor respiratory infection. DH went for the flu jab as much to protect me as himself. If it has some possibility of protection, then I believe it’s worth it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 21, 2020, 02:30:47 PM
Lance Stroll and F1 driver tested +iv after the recent Grand Prix ........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Salad on October 21, 2020, 05:40:28 PM
What like Salad, bowling balls? I'm sure they will have.  ;D  Quick game or two before you leave?  ;D


Think it’s a Bowling green. The sort where lots of retired/old people gather, dressed in white and roll balls very slowly. We’ve lived here 19 years and never driven near it - although I won’t rule out joining when I retire  ;D
Checked at the GP’s today and a Doctor will be there to do my injection - phew  :D
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Post by: jillydoll on October 21, 2020, 05:55:35 PM
Better dig out those old white tennis shorts then Salad.  ;D.
For the bowling, not the doctor!  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Penguin99 on October 21, 2020, 08:49:56 PM
My husband is medically vulnerable,  he had a text for a flu jab so we phoned straight away when he got it, a months wait! Its being done at our surgery, they've got big signs on the door " flu vaccine this way" he said to me tonight, I don't know whether its a good or bad thing and whether its worth having >:(

I’m vulnerable and got the text. I had to wait a month. I have had the jab every year since I was very ill after a minor respiratory infection. DH went for the flu jab as much to protect me as himself. If it has some possibility of protection, then I believe it’s worth it.

I told him its worth having. He will be having it as he's been on immunosuppressive medication.  He's normally been healthy, never gets colds or anything but since this treatment he now  has terrible acid.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 22, 2020, 07:06:39 AM
.... which needs sorting Penguin99.  MayB give his GP a phone call for advice?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Salad on October 22, 2020, 08:06:41 AM
Better dig out those old white tennis shorts then Salad.  ;D.
For the bowling, not the doctor!  ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Penguin99 on October 23, 2020, 04:42:53 PM
.... which needs sorting Penguin99.  MayB give his GP a phone call for advice?
He has, its a side effect.  Doc has given him omeprazole but doesn't really do much he gets on better with bisodol & the gaviscon tablets. Doc said if it doesn't improve he'll have to have a camera down the throat.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 23, 2020, 05:02:14 PM
If the condition is kept at ease by his regime, would upping the Bisodol for a week 2 C if it helps?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 23, 2020, 07:19:17 PM
I have a bottle of gaviscon wall paper paste with 1 spoonful taken from it if anyone would like it  ;D I didn't know that there are tablets  ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on October 23, 2020, 07:36:59 PM
GPs should drink some of these ideas  ;D .......
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Penguin99 on October 24, 2020, 12:40:22 PM
My son gets gaviscon advance on prescription,  it messed hubby heave so I buy the tablets for him, he says they really work for him, but they are not cheap. Next time he speaks to doc he's going to ask 8f the tablets are available on prescription.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Jane50 on October 24, 2020, 05:36:03 PM
Ok decided I must be very strange. I actually quite like the taste of the aniseed gaviscon!  ;D ;D :o
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Annie0710 on October 24, 2020, 09:08:18 PM
Hello Ladies

One of our friends (mid 60s) called Hubby wed eve to say he’s tested positive.  He’s got no idea where he caught it.  Started with sore throat and runny nose then @day 3 the cough started.  He said he doesn’t feel ill enough for bed but doesn’t feel 100%

To be honest Annie, the PCR test is unreliable, even the person who devised it says it's not suitable for Covid testing.  Covid is a corona virus, as is a cold and what your friend has sounds very much like a cold.  I would say it's a good candidate for a 'false positive' result.

I haven’t caught up with this thread but my update is this guys wife got tested and is negative ????!!!!

A young girl I know  (33 ish) is poorly with a positive result and her 12 year old daughter is also positive .  My grandchildren’s pre school has a child tested positive too x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Annie0710 on October 24, 2020, 09:10:27 PM
My partner's 62. New stocks arriving at our surgery each week.

Taz x

Your lucky, not case in my surgery.

My neice, who is a nurse and asthmatic, had to fight to get her jab.  She was initially told that at fifty, she was at the back of the queue.

Her Surgery is the otherside of Kent, by the way.

That’s naughty of them.  I’ve been having a flu Jab and pneumonia jab (As I have suffered this too) for asthma free of charge x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 17, 2020, 04:30:36 PM
BBC were in a hospital at lunch time, Clacton I think it was.  On a Ward that has positive C-19 patients.  No wonder it's spreading:  :bang:  nurses wearing those flimsy aprons instead of full barrier nursing PPE.  Going from patient to patient in the same Ward.  No over-the-face barrier masks ............ testing every 5 days until each patient has two negative results .
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jaycee on November 20, 2020, 11:34:02 AM
My area was one of the lowest,now one of the highest, because people are not following safe procedures
Yesterday one of my daughters friends and her husband  tested positive,
Both of them have been going to the house of a friend who is a teacher, for drinks
I personally think this teacher should be reported, and everyone who was there,on a regular basis by the sound of it
Also this friend works in a food shop, [bakery] and was still working with symptoms until tested
No wonder this virus isn't going away, makes me so mad, luckily my daughter found out over the phone,and friends husband let it slip, friend was fuming with him,
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 20, 2020, 12:06:37 PM
I can't see how teachers/pupils are catching/transferring C-19 if everyone is keeping to guidelines, it makes me furious.  It was obvious that schools were going to be affected ........ it made no sense to me 2 keep them in continual contact.  I watched kids leaving our senior school on Monday evening, very few masks being worn, no distancing ........ when I spoke to the school I was told they are keeping to their Year Groups. What, in the street going home  :-\

In the 1st lockdown our villages weren't affected; now it's spreading, I am sure due to schools remaining open.  I thought that families had to isolate completely if anyone was contacted by track and trace, apparently not  :-\.  So the family bubble continues to go out and about whilst the contacted person isolates for 10 days .......... so anyone carrying it ..........

I think it will be years B4 we know how it should have been handled and which mistakes were made as well as which suggestions actually worked?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 20, 2020, 01:06:52 PM
I was assured that all students were keeping to their year groups and wearing masks out of lessons.  Hey ho! It's a good excuse for us not to mix ;-) but OH it makes me so cross  :bang: :bang: :bang:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 20, 2020, 01:55:57 PM
MayB send an IOU?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on November 20, 2020, 04:10:53 PM
Haven't done any Christmas shopping yet, I'm shielding so not going in shops and then I imagine after lockdown things will be really busy. I read shops are one of the highest risks of the virus. You can't do everything online, I want to see what I'm getting for important presents and you can waste money that way.
It's not that shops are one of the highest risks. It means simply that most other places are closed so infection won't occur there. Therefore a large number of infections do originate in supermarkets. It is a distorted statistic.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on November 20, 2020, 05:07:57 PM
Haven't done any Christmas shopping yet, I'm shielding so not going in shops and then I imagine after lockdown things will be really busy. I read shops are one of the highest risks of the virus. You can't do everything online, I want to see what I'm getting for important presents and you can waste money that way.
It's not that shops are one of the highest risks. It means simply that most other places are closed so infection won't occur there. Therefore a large number of infections do originate in supermarkets. It is a distorted statistic.

Yep, there's a lot of that going on.

Supermarkets are fine if you know the quiet times.  I do this because it limits my time in a mask.  I can do a full shop for 3 adults in 15 minutes.

I'm just a blur.  :scottie:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: silverstar on November 21, 2020, 01:37:42 PM
I had 2 nasty bouts of “something”, one in March, with all the symptoms, high temp, loss of taste/smell,cough, breathlessness, really floored me for 10 days and not back to normal for 6 weeks. Then in June another similar thing for 8 days but no loss of smell or taste. Maybe 2nd bout was flu or resurgence of covid! Got ill again after seeing grandchildren.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on November 21, 2020, 03:31:11 PM
I'm shopping online for as much as possible. Cards wrapping paper presents etc. Trying to support local businesses if I can though. It's the sense of responsibility about not giving it to others which is always on my mind.

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on November 21, 2020, 04:01:32 PM
That's what im doing too Taz.
With all the stories about people who are not self isolating, it's too much worry for me.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on November 21, 2020, 04:59:50 PM
I only limit my time in shops because I hate wearing a mask.

Can't say I even think of possible infection when I'm out.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 21, 2020, 08:44:41 PM
The local shops where I would buy from are closed until start of December  >:( I refuse to buy cards from the supermarket when my independent shop can't trade  :bang:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Ju Ju on November 22, 2020, 07:06:20 AM
I buy presents for my son and family in America online, from American sites, usually the American amazon site, so I don’t have to pay postage, though it’s worth checking the uk site to see if products are cheaper here even with postage added. Has worked well up to now. I’ve been buying stuff for over here gradually to spread the cost.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: littleminnie on November 22, 2020, 09:24:43 AM
Next announcement tomorrow
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 22, 2020, 09:43:48 AM
How many times will that 'announcement' be altered between now and then ?  ::). It annoys me when the afternoon TV that I like to watch is taken off !   ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: littleminnie on November 22, 2020, 01:04:30 PM
It’s usually on at 5.  Not much on TV then.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 22, 2020, 01:09:22 PM
In the week it begins at times when I'm watching 'escape to the sun' etc..  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: C.C. on November 22, 2020, 02:13:44 PM
My dd had been feeling under the weather this past week. She wasn't coughing and didn't have a fever but she was ill enough to miss her vet clinic placement day.  She didn't think she had covid, it felt more like a mild cold. The college advised her to get a swab (she did yesterday) and self-isolate until she gets the results.  It's unfortunate timing because she is supposed to do her lab assessments on campus this week.  The college she attends (two days a week she is on campus) is in a major covid hotspot so the nurse that did her swab was not surprised she came in. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: littleminnie on November 22, 2020, 03:26:51 PM
In the week it begins at times when I'm watching 'escape to the sun' etc..  ;D

 I like that too.  We normally record it but they are repeats at the moment  :(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 22, 2020, 03:28:30 PM
We are getting catch ups here, 'what happened next' - interesting to see where potential buyers turn up and how much alteration they decide to do.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Donnadoobie on November 22, 2020, 03:33:31 PM
Hope you daughter is OK C.C
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 24, 2020, 01:38:36 PM
A man has tapped our door offering fresh fish from HULL  >:(.  We are 5 hours journey from HULL  >:(  surely his journey ain't essential?

Not wearing a mask.  How does that work  :-\ when down here we are at a high level of C-19 deaths   :'( don't these people read the news!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on November 25, 2020, 12:15:27 PM
It's a food business so can still trade. I guess he's just like a lot of us and still trying to keep a business going during these times? He should have had a mask though.

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 25, 2020, 12:18:03 PM
He's travelling from an area under restrictions to an area with a high death rate  :-\.  It takes 5 hours on a good day. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: littleminnie on November 25, 2020, 12:55:19 PM
Maybe the fish is from Hull but he lives in your area?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 25, 2020, 01:08:59 PM
Doubtful.  It crossed my mind after he had gone  ::).  Last time Trading Standards were involved due to unfrigereted vans  ::) [pity I can't spell  :-\].  It seems odd that people are being asked not to travel but ..........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on November 25, 2020, 10:22:55 PM
There are no restrictions on travel for work.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 26, 2020, 08:17:13 AM
How is your DD C.C.?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on November 26, 2020, 09:09:51 AM
This is a really interesting article about how the inflammation response from Covid, is made worse by mental stress. It's the overload of inflammation which causes the dangerous cases, not the virus load.

Well worth a read.

https://elemental.medium.com/amp/p/e08ed0ce7a04?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on November 26, 2020, 09:33:48 AM
It may be another factor along with age, underlying health problems etc etc but it's well established the higher the viral load the worse the prognosis.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 26, 2020, 10:22:48 AM
Tnx both.  My sister, a Nurse, talks about over-load.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 26, 2020, 11:48:45 AM
I see that Boris is back into the community  :-X
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on November 29, 2020, 02:38:39 PM
This is interesting.

Written by Tim Spector of the Zoe App fame.  I think some members on here are signed up for that.  It gives a different perspective on the numbers.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-second-wave-appears-to-have-peaked-before-lockdown
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on November 29, 2020, 08:14:28 PM
More fake news or someone wanting their 5 minutes of fame? They were increasing in my area.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 29, 2020, 08:41:55 PM
It's not dipped in my area despite what the media tries to tell us.  How we are in Tier 2 ............ because we don't get regular death rates it's difficult to believe what is happening  :-\ .  Rates are often 7-10 days behind.  Those that die within so many days of having a positive test, what's that about?  What did they actually die from?  We are being led to believe it was C-19 but due to patient confidentiality, the public can't be told exactly what the underlying conditions were and how they as well as the Virus, contributed to their death.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on November 29, 2020, 09:01:28 PM
More fake news or someone wanting their 5 minutes of fame? They were increasing in my area.

It's up to you what you think but Tim Spector and the Zoe App are well known, with a good reputation.

He is a Professor of Epidemiology at King's College London.

Hopefully some people will find the article interesting.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on November 30, 2020, 11:34:57 AM
And do you really believe 4 out of 10 doctors won't have the vaccination? From a source with unknown provenance.
I find it extremely hard to believe that this app has better data than the nhs and the government. Have they really got more people contributing to it than the nhs with the same national coverage? I don't doubt the app says rates were slowing but it's only as good as the data.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on November 30, 2020, 11:41:58 AM
That is from a different thread and I did give the link, so not unknown at all.

It's your choice as to what you believe, or not.

Oh, headline news today.  Cases down by 30%.  That's good new I believe.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 30, 2020, 01:08:39 PM
However, those without symptoms are testing positive!  Who to believe?  We're headed towards the Festive Season so it's bound to be on the dire side and I see that Wales has to shut Pubs from 6.30 p.m. as from Friday  :'(.  Or close completely, forever.   >:(

Sweden have had a surge of deaths too ..........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 30, 2020, 01:18:32 PM
I hadn't thought of that aspect. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kathleen on November 30, 2020, 02:13:03 PM
Hello ladies.

 I understand that good ventilation helps to  decrease the viral load so I plan to be regularly opening windows when we have more people in the house. If anyone begins to feel cold they can put another jumper on lol!

Take care everyone.

K.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on November 30, 2020, 05:50:00 PM
Wales - cannot open in the day. Can open after 6.00 p.m. to sell food with soft drinks.  To order ........... that'll help what, exactly?  One can go into supermarkets etc.  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on November 30, 2020, 10:54:44 PM
That is from a different thread and I did give the link, so not unknown at all.
I said it was unknown provenance not that you didn't give the link.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on December 01, 2020, 07:35:33 AM
That is from a different thread and I did give the link, so not unknown at all.
I said it was unknown provenance not that you didn't give the link.

Provenance means origin.  The origin of the survey is the medical mag Medscape, who conducted it.  Hence the link is the orgin/provenance.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on December 01, 2020, 09:50:26 AM
Lewis Hamilton has it apparently. Likely to miss the next two races.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on December 01, 2020, 09:51:25 AM
That is from a different thread and I did give the link, so not unknown at all.
I said it was unknown provenance not that you didn't give the link.

Provenance means origin.  The origin of the survey is the medical mag Medscape, who conducted it.  Hence the link is the orgin/provenance.

Hope that helps.
This argument is pointless. Yes, it's medscape which is hardly a well known site. And as it's   .com it's probably American so doubtful it's relevant to the UK anyway.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on December 01, 2020, 09:53:49 AM
Nope it's a UK site.  I know because I'm registered.  :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on December 01, 2020, 09:54:49 AM
Wonder who financed the details,  ? Peer reviewed ? how old?

R main worry should be how patients being treated in hospital are being affected!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on December 01, 2020, 10:02:53 AM

Being a magazine, they would have financed it.

It's about a week old.

Surveys are not usually peer reviewed as it's just a questionnaire and not a research paper.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Uptick on December 01, 2020, 03:06:15 PM
Medscape is a branch of WebMD which is an American company. Anyone can register, but only medical doctors can comment on the articles. It used to be very informative but has been declining in quality the last couple of years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebMD
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on December 01, 2020, 03:27:36 PM
The tabloids put out controversial (and sometimes untrue) headlines to sell copy too  ;D
I wonder what a survey of UK doctors would find.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: befuddled on December 02, 2020, 09:57:32 AM
Just watching Morning Live,  there were some people talking about their shopping habits, and a blind lady was saying that she can't go into shops because she can't see well enough to social distance.  She's had some aggressive comments from some other shoppers when she's  got too close, and obviously her guide dog isn't trained to understand social distancing.  That's not something i'd thought of before.  All those poor people in similar situations.  And the people who make the comments - best not put into words what i think of them!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on December 02, 2020, 10:03:09 AM
As she has a guide dog wouldn't you think people would work out she can't see?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on December 02, 2020, 10:03:33 AM
Where are the staff though befuddled?  In village shops someone would be along to assist. 

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: befuddled on December 02, 2020, 10:13:14 AM
I sometimes let myself in for trouble because i can't just keep quiet when i see things like that happen.  More than once i've thought maybe i should just get on with my own life and not interfere, but i can't, i'd feel so guilty about it afterwards.  If someone tried that in my village shop it wouldn't be forgotten, not for years probably.  Good community here where i am.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on December 02, 2020, 01:16:47 PM
I wouldn't shop at Matalan if that's the case.  Haven'b been for years actually.  What's happened to the staff  :-\ I wonder if they company are using C-19 as an excuse to lay off staff?


Watching the News: the presenter is showing us how safe the Pub is, by touching everything: the signing in book, the sanitiser bottle, the Bar as he walks round the area.   >:(. which bit of DO NOT TOUCH don't presenters get?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on December 02, 2020, 02:49:31 PM
As she has a guide dog wouldn't you think people would work out she can't see?

i saw that and thought exactly the same. It is up to other people present to give her space to move safely. It's not her fault if a guide dog lets her get too close.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on December 02, 2020, 04:38:31 PM
Humans are judgemental.  Instead of offering to assist it's all 'you should be socially distancing'. ? 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on December 25, 2020, 04:37:17 PM
Speaking to a family member this afternoon: he lives in The Fens : 18 months ago an Asian family re-invigorated their village Post Office/Stores so he has been using them than the Supermarkets 5 miles away.

However: the Asian man has been going to Birmingham to meet with family in the Cash and Carry - guess who got C-19 and brought it back to the village, now the paper girl has it .............  :bang: :bang: :bang:
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on December 26, 2020, 12:08:56 AM
I'm sure he has to go to the Cash n Carry to stock his shelves like all small shop keepers?

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on December 26, 2020, 09:24:10 AM
But the point is not to mix?   We go to Cash and Carry 4 times a year and speak to the cashier .........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on December 26, 2020, 09:34:45 AM
I'm not sure what you mean? If he owns a shop surely he has to go to cash n carry to stock up and within the cash and carry he will be in contact with others?

My son has tested negative now after two weeks so is on the mend hopefully. His estranged wife is still struggling though but sounded less breathless yesterday. So horrible not to be able to help them!

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on December 26, 2020, 09:38:09 AM
Glad to hear that Taz about your son.
My sons just got over it too. xx

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on December 26, 2020, 09:40:35 AM
How was your son throughout the ordeal?  We are keeping away from most people but the chances of it finding us is getting more possible as the days go on  :-\

In Cash and Carry 1 doesn't have to go close to anyone.  Where we shop there are 30 cash tills, everyone is masked and there are distance markers though the trollies themselves are long enough to ensure that  ::).  Apparently he and his family met at the Warehouse and went round in a group.  The problem still being 'carriers' with no symptoms

A Frenchman returning from England has tested positive - though showing no symptoms. Don't know if the test was done here or on the other side.  Wonder who will get the blame  :-\.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: littleminnie on December 26, 2020, 12:21:51 PM
My son has had it too.  He was ill with it but not bad enough for him not to work.  (From home)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on December 30, 2020, 04:14:54 PM
It would seem that C-19 is spreading sadly.  Pity the UK doesn't shut down completely because the Tier system doesn't seem to be working. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on December 30, 2020, 05:52:56 PM
Not sure it's the fault of the tier system, more the number of people flouting the rules. Isn't tier 4 just lockdown by another name? The new varient will have been spread all round the country from people leaving London to infect their families for Xmas.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on December 30, 2020, 07:03:43 PM
Not every county is in Tier 4  :-\ so it isn't lock down.  It means that people can still travel on essential journeys.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on December 30, 2020, 08:08:04 PM
Not sure it's the fault of the tier system, more the number of people flouting the rules. Isn't tier 4 just lockdown by another name? The new varient will have been spread all round the country from people leaving London to infect their families for Xmas.

Even in Tier 4 it's not like proper lockdown. We are still allowed to exercise as much as we want rather than just for one hour a day and we are still allowed to go to work. Dentists, podiatrists, physiotherapists etc are still open too.

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Strongkat on December 30, 2020, 08:17:34 PM
Taz - think things are different in different places. In Wales, close contact activities e.g. hairdressers, dentists, physiotherapists are shut. Oh sorry I mislead -  physiotherapists can offer phone consultations 🙄
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on December 30, 2020, 08:42:41 PM
I thought that dentists were still open in Wales? A friend in North Wales had an appointment today?

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Strongkat on December 30, 2020, 09:23:26 PM
Different dentists must be operating under different regimes. I am in North Wales and haven't had a Dentist appointment since late 2019. They have been offering appointments since June but that seems only to be for definite problems - no routine check ups. Also  Wales is now under tier 4 lockdown again - mind you surely toothache must count as a medical emergency  ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on December 30, 2020, 11:43:15 PM
It's strange how it varies. This was a routine check up which should have been in April. Tier 4 lockdown allows for dentists etc to open the same as in England it seems. One day we'll all get back to normal I hope! Hope you are coping ok!

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on December 31, 2020, 09:44:46 AM
Was it a private appt. Taz?  My dentist worked on patients that had set treatment booked as well as being part of an emergency hub  with 4 other surgeries in our area.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Dierdre on December 31, 2020, 10:34:28 AM
My dentist cancelled my checkup last March when we went into lockdown and said he would contact me to rearrange as only open for emergencies, I've not heard since. We are in Tier 4 now but my school is still open, so back to work Monday 😟
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on December 31, 2020, 11:36:15 AM
U could ring for an update, that's what we did.  Then according to how much pain his patients were in, our Dental Surgeon scheduled and as we went as a couple, that made it easier to.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on January 04, 2021, 06:55:22 PM
My son wasn't that bad tbh. He said he could've gone to work too.
He said it felt just like a heavy cold.
Not at all like what my OH had.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on January 04, 2021, 07:36:01 PM
Will he be able to access anti-body testing?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on January 12, 2021, 09:38:47 AM
Thirteen areas in London are no longer receiving regular Royal Mail deliveries due to its workforce being affected by Covid-19, the company has said.

The firm published a list of areas affected which include Lewisham, Wandsworth, Highbury and Enfield.

Some residents say they have not received any post for more than a month.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on January 13, 2021, 04:45:01 PM
There's a list of areas that will find deliveries may be held.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Uptick on January 15, 2021, 03:27:20 PM
Maybe I had Covid, because I have this https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/expert-shares-photo-covid-tongue-19627638

Anybody out there with a Covid tongue?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on January 15, 2021, 03:29:55 PM
Oh that looks SORE  :(. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on January 31, 2021, 08:36:09 PM
 :'(

Captain Sir Tom Moore has been admitted to hospital with coronavirus, his daughter has said.

The 100-year-old, who raised almost £33m for the NHS, was taken to Bedford Hospital after requiring help with his breathing, Hannah Ingram-Moore said on Twitter.

She said he had been treated for pneumonia over the past few weeks and last week tested positive for Covid-19.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on January 31, 2021, 08:47:03 PM
I thought he had it before? Didn't it all start because he wanted to do something for the hospital he was treated in?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on February 01, 2021, 09:44:55 AM
I can't remember that far back  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kathleen on February 01, 2021, 03:55:14 PM
Hello ladies.

A journalist on the BBC news last night reported on Captain Tom's illness and said that the Captain's daughter had tweeted about the lovely Christmas the family had enjoyed in Barbados.  Incredible if true I think you will agree ladies.

Take care ladies.

K.


Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Justjules on February 01, 2021, 05:19:14 PM
Yes apparently true.....fully paid for as well as a thank you.... unbelievably stupid.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on February 01, 2021, 06:12:39 PM
There was a lot of comments about this on Twitter at the time. I think that if I was 100 and had the chance of a holiday in Barbados, all within the covid rules at that time of course, then I'd be tempted to go too. I think it's his optimistic personality that's got him this far. Not sure where he caught the virus? The holiday was weeks ago now.

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on February 01, 2021, 06:13:06 PM
At 100 years old I think he's earned the right to be 'stupid'.  He's on borrowed time anyway.

I hope he had a wonderful time.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on February 01, 2021, 06:21:09 PM
The biggest issue is WHO did he catch it from?  This needs to be discovered because it adds to the research ....... grand children in /out of school?  Care workers whilst he had treatment at home for pneumonia?  There's a huge gap in knowledge regarding transmission. 

 :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Katejo on February 01, 2021, 06:25:55 PM
Hello ladies.

A journalist on the BBC news last night reported on Captain Tom's illness and said that the Captain's daughter had tweeted about the lovely Christmas the family had enjoyed in Barbados.  Incredible if true I think you will agree ladies.

Take care ladies.

K.
I did hear him saying that he had been invited to Barbados but got the impression then that it would only happen if travel restrictions were relaxed.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on February 01, 2021, 06:30:01 PM
There's lots online if you Google it. I thought only the flights were free but might be wrong. I'm sure he had a great time.

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on February 01, 2021, 07:00:10 PM
There was no restriction on travel in Nov./Dec., flights were free by the airline.

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Shadyglade on February 02, 2021, 04:11:13 PM
Captain Tom has just died.

RIP to a hero.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on February 02, 2021, 04:48:28 PM
What an amazing man.

Taz x  :'(
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on February 02, 2021, 04:52:05 PM
I suspected that with the family by the bedside that the News at 4.30 would not be good  :'(

What a Hero.  What a sad end ............
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jaycee on February 03, 2021, 02:43:30 PM
Just said on the news that 2 people here diagnosed with the new African virus and are isolating , caught through international travel, i wonder how many more they have been in contact with though
It is all very worrying, if i sneeze i almost go into a panic
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on February 03, 2021, 02:50:23 PM
Isolating due to diagnosis, doesn't mean to say that they are particularly ill. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on February 04, 2021, 12:34:26 PM
The South African varient is guaranteed to take hold here. We're an island yet seem to have the most porous borders of any country. There are still 20000 people arriving every day. Look at the Isle of Man and New Zealand, they have a normal life. I find it infuriating that we can't do the same.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on February 04, 2021, 01:36:07 PM
Isle of Man have been in lockdown until yesterday.  They have had deaths too.  Being an Island doesn't seem to make much difference now.

I can understand trying to isolate incomers in Hotels is virtually impossible: 21,000 people arrive by plane daily  :o.  One from Nigeria via Dubai and Doha - walked straight into the airport, out and into a Taxi. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on February 04, 2021, 02:27:30 PM
IOM was in lockdown because one new arrival failed to isolate. Wasn't he the one they jailed? When we are in lockdown and people are dying why on earth are we letting 21,000 potentially infected people in every day?? They've had a year to get their act together yet we are still letting them in. Any fool can work out what's going to happen.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on February 04, 2021, 02:53:47 PM
Yep.  Surely it would be better to have isolated incomers initially rather than let the Virus run riot?  But 'they' are safe behind their doors in Downing Street, well enough to go to Scotland and back !?!?!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Kathleen on February 04, 2021, 02:56:15 PM
Hello ladies.

It amazes me that COVID has been tamed in some countries but seems to be running rampant in ours.  The exact same pathogen yet, as sheila99 says people in New Zealand are living a normal life!  The difference  is the way our country is being governed surely.

 Let's hope that the vaccines offer us some protection against the new variants until more tailored ones can be developed. I see that the Johnson and Johnson one is proven to be effective against the SA virus because it was in circulation during the trials.  Until then we all need to behave sensibly to stay safe.

Incidentally a friend of ours died last week from COVID. He had been due to retire next month and his first grandchild is expected soon. So sad.

Take care ladies.

K.

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: jillydoll on February 04, 2021, 03:08:44 PM
My area has just been confirmed to having the new South African strain.
It was in the local paper last night.
The testing centre up the road from us was chocka this morning. They’re also setting up another one locally too.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: littleminnie on February 04, 2021, 07:18:55 PM
If you’ve had the original COVID are you immune to the South African variant I wonder.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on February 04, 2021, 07:54:37 PM
I have a close friend in New Zealand and so I find the daily report interesting https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/7-cases-covid-19

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on February 04, 2021, 10:11:10 PM
That says it all.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on February 05, 2021, 09:30:00 AM
Large country, small population.  MayB they were also readily prepared, unlike the UK governments who knew this was on it's way! 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on February 05, 2021, 11:57:53 AM
I couldn't understand the comment that we couldn't shut borders, as NZ and Australia did, because "we are an island"? Surely NZ is an island too? https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/if-scientists-say-close-borders-well-do-it-says-shapps

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on February 05, 2021, 12:26:33 PM
They in the UK weren't ready for the Pandemic.  Despite knowing that one was on it's way, hence the jollies across Europe to 'talk about it'. 

I don't know how many air terminals New Zealand has?  Auckland being the obvious way in, then fly down to the South Island?  Down Under have few ways into Oz or N Zealand ..... so can be [looking for a word  :-\ ] ........

Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Taz2 on February 05, 2021, 12:30:42 PM
There are 24 large airports in New Zealand and quite a few main ones https://www.newzealand.com/uk/new-zealand-airlines-and-airports/ 

Taz x  :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on February 05, 2021, 01:08:53 PM
Shows what a sheltered Life I lead  ::). 

Continued discussion about whether to use hotels/not 4 incoming travellers ..........
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: Strongkat on February 05, 2021, 02:31:03 PM
I couldn't understand the comment that we couldn't shut borders, as NZ and Australia did, because "we are an island"? Surely NZ is an island too? https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/if-scientists-say-close-borders-well-do-it-says-shapps

Taz x

NZ is most definitely an Island. They have had red hot bio security for many years . Taking food in is a no no, I even had a beagle sniffing around my handbag which had briefly had a sandwich in it.  Taking walking boots with any mud on at all isn't allowed either.

I think NZ is probably the ultimate in Islands it is a long way from any other land mass.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: sheila99 on February 05, 2021, 05:20:46 PM
That's why we got foot and mouth resulting in thousands of animals being slaughtered and they didn't. If they were too stupid before to realise how devastating a disease can be and quickly it can spread they should have learned from this.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - anyone got it?
Post by: CLKD on February 05, 2021, 05:24:23 PM
We had a thread about F&M somewhere  :-\.  Badly handled at the time, advice given by one of the 'experts'  >:(, who also gave advice about C-19 until he was moved sideways  ..........