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Title: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 12, 2020, 02:50:26 PM
A long post so bear with me!

A few weeks ago I went to the doctor with an uncomfortable and sore throat.  I was given antibiotics for a throat infection, which helped with the tightness and uncomfortable feeling but my sore throat persisted. 

Yesterday I visited the dentist, I have an ongoing tooth problem as I have been treated for gum problems all my life, with a tooth being extracted about 5 years ago due to bone loss and recurrent infections.  I need another tooth out and think that my throat problems maybe down to this tooth.  The dentist agreed this could be possible but cannot really be sure.  He said it was likely that I had a grumbling, chronic low grade infection in that tooth and to be honest most of the pain is on that side of my throat. tooth out on 6th March

Today I have been to the gp again, who said she cannot see anything (my throat is really sore) she prescribed omeprazole for reflux and had added a blood test into my annual one in two weeks to check for glandular fever. Blood test is on 25th Feb.   I have been taking reflux medication for a week as I had read that his could be a cause, so don’t think it is that.

She asked if I had ever smoked and did I drink.  Health anxiety kicks in as I know ( because I have googled it!) that a persistent sore throat is a sign on throat cancer, even though it is mainly in men over 65 but hey maybe I will be an exception.

Can over 50 year olds get glandular fever?  Seems unlikely, as I have worked with kids all my life coughing and spluttering over me.  I am generally run down but could that be because of the sore throat or the cause!

Health anxiety is in overdrive.  If she thought it was cancer she would have been more urgent in the blood test?
 
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Kathleen on February 12, 2020, 03:24:45 PM
Hello  Donnadoobie

I answer to your question 'can over 50 year olds get Glandular Fever?' my answer is, they sure can!

I am 63 and had a very sore throat and raised glands in September for about 3 weeks. The infection passed but my GP thinks it was Glandular Fever and warned me that the virus can hang around a long time. I always thought this only affected young people but it seems not.  I still have a sore throat most days even now. Incidentally I was found to have hypothyroidism in December and this could have been brought on by the virus so  you may be feeling run down due to the lingering virus or low thyroid function.

Coincidentally I was having a troublesome tooth treated when I became ill and I now think it needs to be extracted.

I hope all this reassures you and that you feel better soon.

Take care.

K.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 12, 2020, 03:29:24 PM
Thanks it is reassuring.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: marge on February 12, 2020, 05:09:16 PM
Could be post nasal drip. I have this which started as a sore throat last summer and comes and goes.  Blood tests showed nothing sinister, but, like you, sent my health anxiety into overdrive. Strangely, l've been fine for about 6 weeks, but woke up this morning and the sore throat is back.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 12, 2020, 05:28:19 PM
I have been able to move the tooth extraction to tomorrow, so if it clears up then that will be the cause, otherwise I am left worrying until 25th and the blood tests.  Anxiety is making this worse I am sure.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 12, 2020, 05:34:55 PM
Post nasal drip was my first thought followed by acid reflux.

I had a low grade 'leak' from a tooth but my mouth tasted foul until the tooth was removed. 

If 1 snores the mouth and throat will be dry.

Glandular fever can whitter on for months both prior and after diagnosis.  It makes 1 feel really ill.

Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Kathleen on February 12, 2020, 05:53:36 PM
Hello again Donnadoobie

Well done for getting the dental work moved forward. I am keen to have my tooth removed but can't see my dentist until next week and that will only be a quick review appointment.

I'll be interested to know if your sore throat does improve when the tooth is gone.  My dentist told me that chronic infection was always a possibility with a diseased tooth so other problems are bound to occur.

Hope all goes well tomorrow and please let us know how you get on.

Take care.

K.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: bear on February 12, 2020, 07:02:17 PM
Hi Donnadobbie,

Do you snore, by any chance?

BeaR.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 12, 2020, 07:36:11 PM
Probably, I am a mouth breather, my husband snores a lot, so we do not sleep together, so he cannot tell me if I do or not.   
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Tc on February 12, 2020, 07:48:25 PM
Donna. I agree about post nasal drip. It can make throat sore and dry.   It's worse when laying flat on back so maybe try raising pillows.

Also, any issue with the teeth can cause the nearby glands to swell.

Xx
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 12, 2020, 11:01:07 PM
Thanks for your reassurances everyone

My tooth problems are from hereditary gum disease, I pay to have them cleaned, Privately by a dental specialist, after I lost one tooth to bone loss.  I have paid around ?1500 over the past 18 months but although most of my teeth have improved this one has not,   The problem is that the gums gets sore and then prone to infection and then down to the bone, where there is bone loss.  There is movement in this healthy but unstable tooth.  Rife for infection, it has to come out.

Interestingly,  me and my husband have had a heart to heart over a drink tonight and I have barely noticed my sore throat, I am sure there are some anxiety issues involved here.

Tomorrow is a tough day, who wants to face a tooth extraction?!  Wisdom teeth aside, it is only my second, so at 58 to have 27, soon to be 26 out of 32 teeth is something to be thankful for .

I will let you know how this works out,  but feeling more hopeful tonight.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 13, 2020, 09:16:05 AM
Are you on anti-biotics to avoid infection during/after extraction  :-\

Let us know how you are!!  I have a sore area under an implant following a deep clean last month.  I have to eat on the right when I remember  ::)
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 13, 2020, 10:27:25 AM
I am going to ask for antibiotics.  Hopefully he will oblige.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 13, 2020, 11:55:49 AM
Tooth is out!  I asked for antibiotics beforehand, he said no.  After the tooth was extracted he said there was long term infection around the tooth and bone, he scraped out what he could  Gave me antibiotics and said he would rather I did not take them but only if necessary.  I have started taking them, I don't need any more problems with infection
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: marge on February 13, 2020, 12:17:02 PM
Did you mention your sore throat and whether the tooth could have been the cause?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 13, 2020, 12:29:48 PM
I asked him that a few days ago, he said it is possible but could not be certain.  Seeing that there was obviously an infection there for some time I am hoping it will solve it.  I couldn't actually  talk afterwards, my mouth was full of cotton wool!  ;D
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 13, 2020, 01:06:33 PM
Bit late after the event?  ABs should be given pre-surgical intervention so that they kick in to avoid infection setting in  ::)

If you aren't in pain I wouldn't take them.  I usually end up with upset guts so don't finish the Course anyway  :-\

My low grade infection was draining from the socket ..........
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: sheila99 on February 13, 2020, 01:41:07 PM
I would definitely take ABs. I had a sore throat  when I had infection around a root canal filling. I get a sore throat at the drop of a hat, any infection, cold coming on etc etc. Can your infection be seen on an xray? If so it might be an idea to have one after the abs to make sure it's cleared up. If bugs get around a tooth or bone it can be very difficult for abs to cure it which is what they tend to remove teeth. The blood test should tell you if you have a low level infection. I wouldn't be surprised if your gum problems are at thr root of it.
Dentists are trained to spot throat cancer so very unlikely to be that.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: bear on February 13, 2020, 01:59:38 PM
Hi Donnadobbie,

Good to know the extraction went well and you have been given antibiotics for the infection. I hope they will sort out the sore throat. If it persists, maybe you could consider an extra pillow to help with the other possibilities, post nasal drip, acid reflux or mouth breathing. 
I had one tooth extracted recently, it's healing well but my tongue hasn't come to terms with the empty socket!

BeaR.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 13, 2020, 05:27:20 PM
I will take the antibiotics, as he said he has scrapped out as much as he could but not all the infection.  I am quite run down at the moment, Probably because of this long lasting infection.  My throat is my weak spot.  The injection is only just warning off but it already feels a little easier, hope it is not short lived, it is  sore at the site that was my tooth but I expected that and will for a few days.

Bear,  I know what you mean about the tongue, I went through this when I had the other side tooth taken out about 5 years ago, took me ages to get used to it.

Fingers crossed but feeling a little better already, so hopefully it is sorted.  Will definitely continue with the AB as I cannot cope with anymore pains and worries.

Will let you know how it goes after a few days.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 13, 2020, 07:11:33 PM
My Dentist always encourages boiled, cooled water with lots of salt - to rinse mouth several times a day ........ swill round and hold in the socket too as water will get deep into the area.  Tastes though  :-X

One can garble with salt which may ease the soreness.  I used to use TCP liquid for the same. 
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 14, 2020, 07:20:54 AM
Yes he told me about the salt water but after 24 hours has passed, so will do it later.

Sore this morning, to be expected.  I keep swallowing ( not a good thing!) and seems a little less sore.   It is sore down the right side of my neck, inside, but I guess that is the extraction and the remainder of the infection.  I suppose I need to give it a few days to settle.

Need a weekend to relax!   Busy day today with work.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 14, 2020, 09:43:29 AM
Little steps.  The body will sort itself especially the mouth area.  Do you need to take pain relief to ease soreness?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Kathleen on February 14, 2020, 09:46:57 AM
Hello Donnadoobie

I'm pleased to see that your treatment went well. Hopefully you will recover quickly.

I'm seeing my dentist next week and will discuss what can be done with my troublesome tooth. If I need an extraction I would prefer to hold off on antibiotics as they always upset my digestive system.

Take care and keep us updated.

K.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 14, 2020, 09:50:43 AM
My Dentist advised ABs prior to extraction and/or implant work to lessen the risk of an infection getting into the blood stream and causing problems.  If the ABs are already present they will begin 'work' immediately .......... rather than allowing the infection to take hold.

5 years ago I had 3 lots of implant surgery over many months: the 1st time I had prior AB treatment then it was decided that I didn't require it as the body should be primed after all the pulling around  ::).  At the time my GP was giving me ABs for what turned out to be VA  ::) so we decided that my body probably had enough.


Let us know how you get on?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 17, 2020, 07:16:38 AM
Well I have let everything settle for a few days and throat appears to be getting better, not really sore any more and tooth is healing.

Left now with just this globus feeling, which seems to go when I am not thinking about it so pretty sure it is anxiety related. I make it worse by swallowing all the time.

I am a bit chesty, with a slight wheeze, no breathing problems, so hopefully this is viral ( could I have any other problems?) and will go over the next week, if not, I will mention it when I go for my blood tests.   It could also be from a post nasal drip which I am aware of too.  Any remedies?

Feel like an emotional wreck, anxiety and mild depression seem to be taking over.

Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: marge on February 17, 2020, 07:41:28 AM
I still think post nasal drip could be a factor, especially the globus feeling and swallowing.  I take an over the counter supermarket antihistamine tablet about 3 times a week which really helps. Anxiety plays a huge part too of course!
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 17, 2020, 08:08:48 AM
Thanks Marge, I will try with the antihistamine.  I am sure I rattle when I walk  ;D
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 17, 2020, 05:22:59 PM
Spoke too soon.  I have had terrible anxiety today and throat feels tight and sore, although it isn't sore when I swallow, weird.

Can this all be down to anxiety? I keep thinking the worst.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 17, 2020, 08:10:35 PM
OK what's the worst?

Post nasal drip can cause sore throat.  Anxiety can cause lots of health problems.   :tulips2:
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 17, 2020, 08:56:07 PM
The worst would be throat cancer. 
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 18, 2020, 09:53:46 AM
Having another bad day today.  Throat sore again.  Thought I was doing so well. 
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 18, 2020, 10:01:52 AM
How bad is the throat, enough to use a salt water gargle?  Bad enough for pain relief?

I often have a sore area at the base of my nose at the back: probably has a complicated name  ::) : which is due to post nasal drip, allergic rhinitis and sleeping with gob wide open.  Apparently.  But I never think that it might be serious as it's been with me for years++. 

Anxiety can cause a person to over-breath which will dry out the mouth/throat and cause soreness.  Do you practice any relaxation therapy?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Kathleen on February 18, 2020, 11:10:24 AM
Hello again ladies

Donnadoobie- I had a GP appointment yesterday and he examined my throat as it still feels sore most of the time.  He could find nothing wrong which is a relief but doesn't help explain the soreness.  On the way home I realised that I had stopped taking my vegan supplements and a sore throat can be a symptom of B12 deficiency. I've ordered some more tablets today but I wonder if this could be a problem for you.

Sorry that I can't be of more help but I thought my idea was worth mentioning.

Wishing you well and take care.

K.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 18, 2020, 02:47:56 PM
Thanks again, I feel a bit neurotic!

Throat goes from being very sore to not sore at all,  it is there niggling, feels as if it is at the bottom of my throat, in line with the ?v? under my Adam's apple.  Neck at the side is very tight and sometimes feels as if this is where the pain is from.  Does not really hurt when I swallow.  I keep thinking my tongue is sore too but cannot see anywhere that is sore.

Driving me mad, I am sure I am making it worse.

Next Tuesday I have a blood test for glandular fever but not sure what the other one was, probably a full blood  count.  Not sure I can wait this long but surgery is very pushed for appointments. 

Last night I got into bed, relaxed on the pillow and thought, no pain or tightness.  I watched a video about how to stretch the neck muscles to release tension.  This morning I felt I was in control then bam! Again with the soreness and tension, although not as much tension as yesterday and the globus feeling is not really there much, just a sore throat.

Part of me is wondering that during all of this I have actually picked up a virus which could be causing it and the tension is anxiety.  Anyway.  I have booked a follow up routine appointment following my blood test for 9th March!  I have not seen this GP before.  My GP has left the practice, I had so much trust in her.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 18, 2020, 03:46:02 PM
Not neurotic!  Health anxiety is common.  The Change does what it says on the tin  ::)

I understand that position, for me it's reflux  ::)
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 20, 2020, 09:11:39 AM
Update.  Might be a bit long.

Throat is feeling less sore, slight discomfort with globus but mostly after I take tablets, otherwise manageable.

My thoughts about this, and I may be wrong but I will see how things go.

This all started when I could not sleep one night, I sat up and took two tablets that I had forgotten to take before I settled down, a probiotic and a plant sterol for Cholesterol, plant sterols tab is huge!  I think this scratched my throat as it went down and caused a lot of pain and discomfort for probably a few days, by which time my anxiety had kicked in big time.  This could also have caused my throat inflammation, for which I was prescribed antibiotics.   Meantime, while all of this was going on, I had the infection from my tooth grumbling away, on it's own just a mild discomfort, together, perfect for health anxiety concerns to build.  The antibiotics were not enough to kill the infection from the tooth (My original dentist used to prescribe anti microbials when this happened before) so the discomfort with my throat continued.  So when I went to the gp again, she could see no evidence of a throat infection as it was all inside under my tooth.  The second round of antibiotics has finally dealt with it, now that the source has gone.

Rumbling along with this, there may have been a silent reflux issue, resolved with omeprazole prescription, or a post nasal drip ( my dominant thought as I think it is still there) or both.

In the meantime, I may have picked up something viral, as I have a phlegmy chest, not too bad but this could also be the post nasal drip.  My voice goes a bit croaky until I clear my throat.

I found a site that demonstrated neck stretching exercises for globus and this is helping.

I think there has been lots going on and I may never know what or when but individually I could probably have brushed them off, together, along with anxiety I have not been able to deal with it and slipped into a very dark place, the worst time was Monday night.

I will see what comes back from the blood test next week but I can feel a lifting of my spirits a little and hope I can build on this but it may take a few weeks. I will see how I feel over the coming few weeks to see if I need to see the gp again.  I think this is a long road.

Anxiety has been the key component of all this.

I over analyse things, I like to understand things, always have.  I can deal with what I know.  That is why anxiety floors me, as there is often no reason for it.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 20, 2020, 11:26:25 AM
Horrible isn't it Sparkle?

As soon as I wrote this this morning , I started with a sore throat  :-\.   I feel thoroughly fed up again  :'(
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: marge on February 20, 2020, 02:03:40 PM
Fellow sufferer of the dreaded Health Anxiety too.  Do you find yourself waking up in the morning and scanning your body for symptoms?  I do and, low and behold, several different things pop up. But, if I'm mega-busy and rushing about, all is well.  As I've said before, the mind is very powerful and we can imagine all sorts of nasties that aren't really there.  You're not alone in the leaky old boat!
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 20, 2020, 02:08:07 PM
Yes Marge I know what you mean

This morning I laid in bed before I got up and thought, I don't want to get up, everything feels ok, no pain, nothing.  Then I got up ............ :-\
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 20, 2020, 10:36:09 PM
Found this while googling! ::)

Think it tells me what I already suspected but worth a read.  Hope it helps others having the same issues.

Must try to focus on this.

https://preventyourpanic.com/anxiety-symptoms-throat-problems
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: marge on February 21, 2020, 08:44:36 AM
That's really interesting, Donnadoobie, thanks for posting.  It's always good to have something reassuring to read when the health anxiety strikes!
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 21, 2020, 05:10:41 PM
It hasn't got any worse though?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 21, 2020, 05:19:59 PM
No, it is still the same.  I think it is a mix of post nasal drip and anxiety.  Trying to stay calm.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 21, 2020, 05:20:35 PM
That's good.  .......... and breath  ;)
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 21, 2020, 08:05:26 PM
My husband, after seeing me so down over the past few weeks, bought a bottle of wine.  After sharing the bottle, I have to say that I feel relaxed, no pain, no throat discomfort.  I feel there maybe a lesson in there!
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 21, 2020, 08:22:41 PM
 ;D

Hic.  You'll be crawling up stairs to bed and moaning about sore knee caps tomorrow  ;)  :D

Lubrication might be the answer then >reaches for Coke<. 
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 21, 2020, 10:42:08 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

Will sleep well tonight!
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Booroo on February 23, 2020, 05:32:16 PM
Donnadoobie many thanks for the link my god so flipping true with me xx
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 23, 2020, 10:43:24 PM
A weekend without work and mostly without symptoms, although I can feel the tension in my throat if I think about it.  My husband is making me do the exercises  in the link I posted and, together with the ones I found,  are helping.  Thinking back to to weeks ago, there is definitely an improvement although not 100%. 

I do think many things have combined to make me feel like this, the tablets which I think  scratched  my throat, the tooth with an infection, post nasal drip, possibly reflux too and I am sure something viral, all combined with anxiety.

Fingers crossed everything continues to improve.  I am taking control of my tension and am starting to feel almost normal!  I do need to conquer the anxiety though, as I cannot do this anymore.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 24, 2020, 09:08:47 AM
Well done.  Maybe an anti-anxiety tablet for 'when necessary'?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 26, 2020, 07:42:55 PM
Had a good weekend and everything felt reasonably good on Monday.  Woke up yesterday, the day of blood tests and felt really anxious and throat returned.  After the test it improved as the day went on.

Today, work has been stressful, by lunchtime I was feeling a burning in my throat and just cried.  So fed up with all of it.  Is easier this evening but not better.

I feel sheer panic that it is throat cancer, I cannot think of anything else.

Waiting for blood test results.  If all is normal should I stop worrying?  What if they are not OK, all of this is going round in my head.  Trying to stay calm but it is not working.

I feel absolutely floored by all of this, not really helping my husband, who is struggling with a cold and a sick mother who lives in Spain!  I just want to feel well again.

Should I wait for the blood test results before going back to the GP?  I have an appointment in 9th March but I may go mad before then.
 
Is the anxiety causing the symptoms ot the symptoms causing the anxiety.?  Who knows but I am really struggling.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: bear on February 26, 2020, 08:11:22 PM
Hi Donnadoobie,

Sorry to hear you're still struggling with sore throat. It looks like anxiety related, but of course it could be something else exacerbated by anxiety, I keep thinking of acid reflux. I think you should wait for the blood tests results before going back to the GP, s/he won't be able to diagnose anything without them, unless you have something visible on your throat. Health anxiety can cause a variety of symptoms and pain will cause health anxiety, it's a vicious cycle. Try to do things that relax you until you have the blood tests results.

BeaR.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: marge on February 27, 2020, 07:17:43 AM
I agree with BeaR. It's all sounding very anxiety related and similar to what I have. It goes away for a while, all over Christmas and January, l was fine, but it's back now. I have no idea why. My blood tests were all fine. Keep calm if you can.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 27, 2020, 08:24:53 AM
Just read that Omeprazole, which the doctor prescribed two weeks ago, can cause anxiety. Not officially but reading reviews, I would say about half of the people responding said it gave them severe anxiety.

Going to stop taking it.  Has not cleared up the throat issue anyway.  Any advice on a natural way of treating silent reflux, in case this is the issue?  I already take live bacteria, one general one and one specifically For Women, helping to prevent thrush and uti's.  I also have some digestive enzymes, which I have not really started taking as they arrived just before I was prescribed the Omeprazole, so stopped.

I don't really suffer with heartburn or indigestion so I am sure that if this is the problem I need to sort out my diet for a while, which has always been quite good, I thought. 

Going to do some research.  That is what I always do.  Got pre diabetes and cholesterol under control by doing this.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2020, 09:42:28 AM
I have taken it for 12 months and my anxiety levels haven't risen.  STOP reading rubbish on the net!! What on Earth does 'not officely' mean?  You aren't researching in the correct places .......... I've spent years typing up research Papers - not many that I could understand but the important thing was that Authors and a Bibliography were a legal requirement.  Also who was funding the research is useful.

What bacteria are you actually taking?  Why is one specifically for women  :-\.  When I feel unwell I buy tubs of Greek LIVE yoghurt and eat by the spoonful: 3 times a day for 5.  It won't do any harm and encourages good bacteria in the digestive tract.  When my dog had chemo she got heartburn and it certainly eased her symptoms.  When I feel 'thrush' may be the problem, I apply into the vagina.  Soothing  ;)

Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 27, 2020, 10:18:30 AM
Not research CLKD, this was reviews of people taking the medication.  I put into Google, can Omeprazole make you feel worse? 

https://www.drugs.com/comments/omeprazole/for-gastroesophageal-reflux-disease.html
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2020, 12:35:36 PM
Maybe have a look at Dr James le Fanu pages in the Monday Telegraph who explains this medication and it's uses really well.

How R U as the day goes on?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 27, 2020, 01:11:20 PM
Not as bad as yesterday thanks but not the best, seems to go up and down. Trying to stay calm but waiting for blood test results today or tomorrow.  They said they would only contact me if there was a concern. Will ask husband to check tomorrow when he picks up my prescription, if they have not contacted me today.

Husband is trying so hard bless him, sending me lots of links about anxiety and making me do my throat exercises.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2020, 03:06:40 PM
It hasn't got worse?  It's unlikely to be anything particularly serious  ;)

........ and breath?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: sheila99 on February 27, 2020, 08:59:40 PM
If you get it when you have anxiety is it possible that you're tightening muscles in your throat?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2020, 09:00:38 PM
Over-breathing too will dry out the mouth/nose/throat ;-).

Which happens when some one is anxious.  Do you sing?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 28, 2020, 11:23:08 AM
Thanks all, I am aware that my throat is tightening so I am sure I make it worse.

CLKD, I am a mouth breather so I am sure I get a dry throat too.

Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 28, 2020, 11:38:31 AM
Sorry to bore you all with another story of what feels to be never ending throat problems but I feel this is positive

I am a member if a Facebook group called Tummy Time, which is for people wanting better digestive health.  I joined when I started buying the Just for Tummies Probiotics, as it is run by Linda Booth, who also runs the company.  It is an informative and supportive community.

Yesterday, somebody replied to my post that not all reflux is from acid and some is caused by the enzyme Pepsin, which can go higher up the digestive tract causing throat and nasal problems.  This may be interesting to others that have ongoing throat problems.  Tests for this can be done through saliva, as any pepsin found in saliva means it has been refluxed, as it cannot be found anywhere else except the stomach.  It is new thinking that this causes more silent reflux cases, as it can go undetected, as problems are often not heartburn but upper respiratory tract symptoms.  She directed me to a site, which is ultimately a site to sell their saliva test ( expensive) but has a lot of other useful info.  I have googled the symptoms of pepsin reflux and sore throat is on the list.  Interestingly, acid reflux, PPI's will not prevent pepsin reflux, these are better controlled with medications such as Gaviscon Advance, as this forms a protective barrier over the stomach contents.  Anxiety can make this worse!

I have also found an acid watch diet, which I am going to follow for the next 4 weeks and see if that makes a difference.  I will discuss this with the GP when I go on 9th March.

Not sure if this is all fact or not but it cannot hurt to give it a go, what do I have to lose?  And I feel more positive  that I am being more proactive, instead of sitting around feeling sorry for myself.

No sore throat today, just globus feeling.  Tension and post nasal drip (reflux)

Will post some links in case anyone is interested.

Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: marge on February 28, 2020, 11:41:37 AM
Sounds very interesting; thanks for info.  Let us know what your GP says and how you get on with the diet.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 28, 2020, 11:44:17 AM
As long as the Links aren't selling items!  It bothers me when people who run sites also sell products  :-\.

I have had post nasal drip since the mid-1970s - had indigestion since about the age of 6 as I have been anorexic.  Reflux gives me a burning sensation up the gullet, excessive saliva  :-X.  'rennies' helped for years but GP gave me omepralols?  what ever it's called  ::).  To ease the irritating clearing throat which was annoying DH  ;D

Diet can also cause indigestion.  As can eating on the go, sitting incorrectly and lots of junk food.  However, I don't indulge in burgers, my weakness is chocolate eclairs  :-X.  Which are fatty.  Lorry drivers often complain of indigestion/reflux .........  :-\
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 28, 2020, 11:59:55 AM
I have never really had heartburn or indigestion, which is why I have never thought it was reflux and why I have questioned why the PPI was not working.  Silent reflux will not cause heartburn.

Anyway, here are a couple of links.  It is a fairly new idea, so not too much on it but seems to be mentioned in a few medical sites. 

https://www.refluxgate.com/peter-dettmar-pepsin

https://www.uhb.nhs.uk/Downloads/pdf/PiRefluxAdviceSheet.pdf
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 29, 2020, 02:59:46 PM
How's it today?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 29, 2020, 03:08:14 PM
Thought it was going to be bad when I woke up but feels a little easier.  Throat is not really sore but I feel tension in my neck which makes me think it is sore, if that makes sense.

Husband made me do my throat exercises!

Thanks for asking CLKD
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 29, 2020, 03:11:07 PM
All those small nerves are connected.

My nose and throat are sore but I have my gob wide open when I sleep - apparently  ;D and it hasn't got worse for weeks. 
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on February 29, 2020, 04:57:52 PM
Sucking throat sweets help, sugar free ones.  Got fisherman's Friends, Halls and Strepsils on  a cycle!

Been taking the Gaviscon after meals too.

I was so fed up this morning, I have been on a rollercoaster of anxiety attacks since May last year!
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on February 29, 2020, 04:59:32 PM
Oh YUK to all those  ;D

Stick to 1, I believe that Strepsils  :sick02:   are recommended by GPs  ::)
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: marge on March 03, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
How are you Donnadoobie?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on March 03, 2020, 06:10:48 PM
I am OK, thanks for asking Marge.

Sore throat comes and goes, now not sure if it is my throat or just the muscles.  Maybe a bit of both.  Sometimes I think my throat feels better and then It feels bad again.

Taking PPI and gaviscon advance,  not sure it is helping,  feel it is more to do with a post nasal drip, throat is phlegmy and slight irritation on my chest like I want to cough.  Took a Sudafed today, only to find out a couple of hours later that you should not take them if you are on beta blockers! It has reduced the phlegmy feeling slightly but scared to take another one.

Reducing acidic things and reducing dairy this week to see if that makes a difference and trying to relax as I am sure anxiety is at the root of all this.

My sister did a reflexology session for me on Sunday, found it very tense around the throat points.  It did feel better that evening and then I started working on Monday! 

Going to go back to my dancing class tonight, have not felt up to it as I was so low.  Will see how I go.

Got a doctor appointment on Monday, not sure what I am going to say. 
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on March 03, 2020, 06:31:54 PM
A sore throat is internal.  Neck muscles on the outside ;-)

What do you want the GP to do?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on March 03, 2020, 09:08:53 PM
Not sure CLKD, made the appointment about three weeks ago, if throat feels ok tomorrow I may cancel.

Dancing class made me feel better, glad I did it. 

I know the muscles are outside but sometimes I think we can confuse pain and it's source.  I had this with my back, feeling pain in lower back and coccyx, turned out to be a tight pelvic floor.  I think some of the soreness is inside but when I am anxious, I have to really concentrate on where I am actually feeling the pain.  I am sure my muscles are just sore and overworked from 6 weeks of tension!

I am sure it is better than it was a couple of weeks ago.  I feel brighter in myself too.



Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on March 04, 2020, 08:41:51 AM
Throat not great this morning.  Not worse but feeling sore again.

Will not cancel my appointment on Monday.  I think I will ask about post nasal drip, possibility of anxiety causing it.   I feel such a nuisance as I keep going back.

Feeling fed up, hate this rollercoaster, good one day, bad the next.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on March 04, 2020, 08:47:18 AM
The GP doesn't sit there thinking about you!  Take a list with your worries.

You probably slept with your mouth open ........... it hasn't got worse in recent weeks? 

Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: marge on March 04, 2020, 08:47:35 AM
Let us know how you get on.  Lots of us suffer with PND and any new info/advice is always welcome.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on March 04, 2020, 08:58:28 AM
Exactly that Sparkle.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on March 04, 2020, 09:41:35 AM
Thanks Sparkle, I will take a look.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on March 09, 2020, 11:09:53 AM
I have just come back from the doctor.  He was very nice and didn't seem to mind the ramblings of a menopausal woman!  ;)

He said that my throat looked normal and that all the blood tests had come back normal.  Glandular fever, full blood count and inflammatory markers

He said it could be a post nasal drip but feels this is mostly down to anxiety.  Sent me off to buy a Beconase nasal spray to use for two weeks and suggested I either try again with the well-being service or see somebody privately for CBT.

Feel a little relieved but it may take a few days to fully feel relaxed
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on March 09, 2020, 11:36:27 AM
Yes, he did say I may not see an improve for up to 10 days.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: marge on March 09, 2020, 12:12:09 PM
Was silent reflux mentioned at all? I think this can cause a sore throat too.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on March 09, 2020, 12:32:38 PM
Be ware of nasal sprays drying out the nostrils  ;D.  After the 1st week I found that use 'beconase' 2/3 times a week at night was enough.  At least your GP was listening - probably relieved that it wasn't another 'have I got the virus' patient  ;)
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on March 09, 2020, 12:49:26 PM
 Marge, we talked about reflux but as It had not improved with almost a month on Omeprazole and Gaviscon, he felt that it was unlikely to be the cause.
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on March 09, 2020, 12:50:33 PM
CLKD, I don't like nasal sprays, I always use a saline one but he said that to just use for two weeks, so I see how I get on with it. Thanks
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on March 09, 2020, 12:51:07 PM
Let us know how you get on.  The mucus membranes can become sore if they dry out ......... trial and error then?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on March 12, 2020, 06:11:39 PM
This is feeling like a neurotic post, did not want to start a new thread.

After the doctor on Monday, I have tried to focus on the fact that bloods were clear and no visible signs of anything wrong but hey!  I have health anxiety,  not so simple. 

The past few days I have been worrying that maybe I do have reflux, even though the doctor thought it was unlikely.  Taking 20mg of Omeprazole each morning and Gaviscon after big meals and before going to sleep, could it be?

Will the inflammatory blood test show anything serious?  What if it doesn't

Tension in throat is still bad and throat , sore  and voice is croaky, post nasal drip?  Doctor said spray could take 10 days to work.

I know most of this sounds irrational but I cannot stop thinking what if?  And anxiety still bad.

I know many of you will understand this as you suffer with anxiety

Sorry for my ramble

Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: marge on May 09, 2020, 08:34:49 PM
I know it's a while since your last post on this Donnadoobie, but l was wondering if you ever got to find out what was causing your throat issues and if you were able to overcome them?
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: CLKD on May 10, 2020, 08:57:53 AM
Sorry this obviously didn't report in my 'show unread posts'  :-\  >:(
Title: Re: Sore throat and health anxiety
Post by: Donnadoobie on May 11, 2020, 07:22:50 AM
no I never have got to the bottom of it.  still have it.

It did go away and then when the lockdown started it came back.  I am beginning think there may be a silent reflux link but also think there is definitely an anxiety link too.