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Title: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Moonshine54 on April 14, 2019, 08:30:04 PM
Just read this article about Carol Vorderman.  She's said that she had a horrendous time with her menopause symptoms,  and felt sucidal. She went to see Pfof Studd and was prescribed bioidentical hormones in a gel.  She said within two days she was  back to normal. What are they ? and are they only available privately.?  :)
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: CLKD on April 14, 2019, 08:30:39 PM
Put bio-identical into the search box on here ;-)

Then let us know.  Within 2 days?   ::)
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Moonshine54 on April 14, 2019, 08:36:48 PM
I will do...yes  she said two days but does sound a bit too good to be true xx
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Robin on April 14, 2019, 08:38:33 PM
I think that whoever wrote the article probably used the term bioidentical but the correct term is body identical. They're 2 different things and often get confused. I think the gel is most likely oestrogel which is body identical and something that professor studd does prescribe and is also available on the NHS via your gp. Lots of ladies here use it.

Professor studd is unlikely to prescribe bio identical hormones as they are unregulated.
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: jillydoll on April 14, 2019, 09:02:05 PM
She also credits her incredible figure to the hrt she's on!
Must be good, I don't look like her on my hrt! 😂😂
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Robin on April 14, 2019, 09:03:59 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: CLKD on April 15, 2019, 08:12:37 AM
It helped her. It's 1 story out of 1,000s ;-)
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Night_Owl on April 15, 2019, 10:56:37 AM
Think I remember reading somewhere that she uses Oestrogel (estrogen gel) and Utrogestan (progesterone) - available on NHS.  Carol is fortunate in immediately finding a regime that suited (I'm in the small minority who tried many years of trial and error but never found the 'right fit' HRT).  She does look good - must be down to genetics too.
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Night_Owl on April 15, 2019, 12:20:13 PM
yeh, absolutely Birdy, post-meno baps and booty don't look like that on just HRT!
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Krista65 on June 16, 2020, 09:27:55 PM
Just read this article about Carol Vorderman.  She's said that she had a horrendous time with her menopause symptoms,  and felt sucidal. She went to see Pfof Studd and was prescribed bioidentical hormones in a gel.  She said within two days she was  back to normal. What are they ? and are they only available privately.?  :)

Just to say, I do not trust that woman. She blocked me on Twatter because I dared mention she has had cosmetic surgery. I think she's trying to make money and will say anything. Also don't believe she was having her monthlys til she was 54. Sorry to sound so negative but you don't get a Barbie body like hers through workouts alone. It's disingenuous. Just like the women who say their clear firm skin us down to drinking lots of water a day when they've really had a facelift.

Rant paused but never over.
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Emm225 on June 17, 2020, 07:40:43 AM
Well she's very lucky if her figure is down to HRT treatments...I would love to hear from others who have benefited like this.  i put on wieight round my middle and on the scales....and I have been roughly the same shape and weight for 25 to 30 years. I don't like the change in my figure, but worth it for relief from sweats, anxiety and tearfulness. (altho not total relief from the last 2..but a bit)
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: sheila99 on June 17, 2020, 07:54:04 AM

Also don't believe she was having her monthlys til she was 54.

I think you're wrong on that one. I had no peri symptoms until I was 56. There are several ladies on this site with a later meno.
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Kathleen on June 17, 2020, 08:54:12 AM
Hello ladies.

I thought I would mention that I am one of those women who had their last period at age 54 meaning I became officially post meno at age 55. Incidentally I thought my symptoms would only last a few years then go away but at age 57 I felt worse so that is when I embarked on HRT. I am 63 now and have been HRT free for a year but have ongoing problems with anxiety and tearfulness. My flushes have also returned recently but are mild and manageable.
There are quite a few of us later meno ladies here and like sheila99 I had no real problems with peri menopause.

My shape has also changed. The  biggest difference I have noticed is that my bottom has become flat and my abdomen more rounded. It is as if the fat stored in my bottom has moved to my belly, I don't have a spare tyre though which a lot of my post meno friends have as well.

I think any changes to our figures are easier to accept if we feel generally well and in control of our lives.



Take care everyone.

K.



Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: CLKD on June 17, 2020, 08:55:53 AM
She blocked me on Twatter because I dared mention she has had cosmetic surgery

You are lucky that Carol isn't suing you!
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Krista65 on June 17, 2020, 09:13:34 AM
She blocked me on Twatter because I dared mention she has had cosmetic surgery

You are lucky that Carol isn't suing you!

 :)

I'm just looking at testosterone therapy. I think it might be worth a Google as Iv'e found a couple of articles saying some doctors believe this could be the way forward for some women.

Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Tc on June 17, 2020, 10:48:57 AM
I was still having regular as clockwork periods at 53.

Its realy interesting to hear your views on this ladies. 

It might be worth mentioning that Carol.has been quoted as saying ". 'I didn't have any of those hot sweats and all of that kind of thing" .  So may be worth bearing in mind when it comes to evaluating  her statements on how quickly a "little bit of gel"  changed her life

 The effects on mental health of menopause for some of us cant be overstated in my opinion and i believe its vital to talk about mental health. If she says she had no other symptoms then who am I to disbelieve her. I'm glad for her that she didnt  But in the wider picture,  I hope it's not the fact that  maybe talking about MH has (thankfully)  become less of a taboo whereas  in the Peter pan airbrushed world of showbiz where women are constantly sexualised, talking about a dry vag or peeing yourself may still have a way to go!!

I've got nothing against Carol. She looks amazing.  Although please don't dismiss the other meno symptoms as "all that kind of thing". Carol!!! 

Speaking generally,  its business. If someone is flogging an anti ageing face cream and then admits to a facelift they might see the end of that contract. The companies know of course but when the shit hits the fan as it did with Fern Brittain it's the celeb who takes the financial fall.  So there is an incentive for them to deny surgery whether by ommision or downright lying . Usually I would say  It's up to an individual what they chose to reveal about surgery.as it's a private matter but when it comes to celebs  attributing certain products to their looks and its realy the result of surgery then that's a bit more than  disingenuous in my opinion.

Xx.


Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: CLKD on June 17, 2020, 11:43:48 AM
As an aside those dry vagina adverts by Jenny Eclair make my blood boil - like there isn't anything else to treat vaginal atrophy with!
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Kathleen on June 17, 2020, 02:44:27 PM
Hello again ladies.

Carol Vorderman has also said that her symptoms made her feel suicidal, adding that she didn't say that lightly. She claims that it was thinking about her children that made her seek help. She became a patient of Professor Studd and has found Oestrogel HRT to be very effective.

Obviously some celebraties are promoting products but to remain employable they need to take out insurance policies that guarantee their health.  The business of show and all that!

Whatever the agenda it is useful to have women talk about their menopausal struggles as this normalises the situation and helps fight the taboo.

Take care everyone.

K.
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Krista65 on June 17, 2020, 03:08:24 PM
During my research today, I came across an article that said Trinny Woodall puts her youthful looks down to hrt. 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: DebsMK on June 17, 2020, 04:03:43 PM
I also had regular periods at the age of 54 and went onto HRT for the reason I couldn't sleep and had horrendous aches and pains.  On another note, I remember some years ago a photographer took a photo of Carol with her face bandaged up and according to an interview she gave on the subject, she fell down the stairs. At the time I found it interesting that she emerged post bandages with a much younger face.  It appears therefore we need to take HRT for a young and lifted body, take krill oil (remember her adverts for that) and throw ourselves down the stairs to look as good as she does at almost 60.
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Kathleen on June 17, 2020, 04:56:38 PM
Hello again ladies.

The problem is the celebs have to have a story to explain their change of appearance but they don't want to reveal the truth.

I remember when Fern Britton began losing weight and she said it was because she now had a dog and was walking him every day. When it emerged it was due to  gastric surgery she took a week off work to let the fuss die down. Btw what's happened to Linda Robson? First she was overweight then supposedly gave up wine and became slim then had some emotional /health issues and was off work  for a year but has now come back and is overweight again. The programme made a big deal about her losing weight but gaining weight isn't discussed which is a shame as it may be relevant to her return of health and would help other people.

Bit of a divergence there ladies, hope you don't mind.

Wishing you all well.

K.
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Foxylady on June 17, 2020, 05:43:20 PM
 :rofl: Birdy I would be with you there making the most of my assets!!! I can say being on HRT has made me look 10yrs younger (yet) but as others have said a helping hand has been had by most of these celebs. x
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Moonshine54 on June 17, 2020, 09:19:40 PM
Just to say I have regular monthly periods and I will be 56 soon.  I think Carol looks great but yes definitely had some work done .  Xx
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: sheila99 on June 17, 2020, 10:30:13 PM
She was one of the celebs who made me realise I was in peri and for that I am grateful. Like many people (including my gp) I only knew about irregular periods and hot flushes neither of which I had. I did have many of the symptoms she had though so I absolutely believe her about them. If only hrt would knock 20 years off my looks too...
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Krista65 on June 17, 2020, 10:56:21 PM
We'll, I do not believe her. I'm also not liking the sound that I'm not believing anyone else and this is t true so yes people here still had or have periods into their fifties but Vorderman is t one to be trusted due to her omitting the surgery she has etc. I think she's had extensive work done so if she can lie or omit some things, I'm wary of her still having periods at 54. So it doesn't mean I don't believe anyone else. Ok? Good.
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: dangermouse on June 18, 2020, 02:07:09 AM
I feel wicked saying this but I'm really surprised that everyone here thinks she looks amazing.  :o Maybe I'm looking more at her style but she seems to dress in an overtly sexual fashion, which does suggest low self esteem, where you believe getting sexual attention will validate you.

So I have no bad thoughts towards her and feel a bit sorry for her if anything.
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Hillbilly on June 18, 2020, 07:10:46 AM
I agree Dangermouse, she's very 'out there' with her fashions and seems to be trying to hard. I also don't think she suits her hair blonde. A few years ago she looked fabulous but she's definitely had some sort of work done and doesn't look natural anymore.

I actually think it's very damaging when celebs say their looks are down to a certain product. I remember Posh Spice suddenly getting huge boobs and saying it was from having kids and Kylie saying her youthful looks were from Nivea cream. Us women should be sticking together, not making each other feel worse about themselves because someone 10 years older looks 20 years younger than us without any surgical help.

I very much doubt Carol's looks come from a tub 🙄
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: sheila99 on June 18, 2020, 08:20:08 AM
We'll, I do not believe her. I'm also not liking the sound that I'm not believing anyone else and this is t true so yes people here still had or have periods into their fifties but Vorderman is t one to be trusted due to her omitting the surgery she has etc. I think she's had extensive work done so if she can lie or omit some things, I'm wary of her still having periods at 54. So it doesn't mean I don't believe anyone else. Ok? Good.
You don't like her so you don't believe anything she says, that's fine, you're entitled to your own opinion. This post shows that many women have a later menopause
 https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,36765.msg754324.html#msg754324
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: CLKD on June 18, 2020, 08:26:08 AM
Celebrities are in a bubble.  One that is often pushed by product manufacturers.  Also they tend to jump on the 'topic of the day' so when menopause pops up - same with Jenny Eclair and her dry vagina advert ........  >:(

Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Kathleen on June 18, 2020, 08:36:48 AM
Hello again ladies

Krista 65 - those of us who are posting about our later menopause are just letting you know that it does happen that way for some women. It's impossible to know if Carol Vorderman is telling the whole truth about her menopause and other treatments and if she is suggesting that still having regular periods in your fifties makes you more youthful that's just silly.

Wishing you well.

K.
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Jeepers on June 18, 2020, 09:06:05 AM
My menopause was 54, I actually thought this was the average... You live and learn !

Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Tc on June 18, 2020, 11:58:37 AM
Hiya Ladies.

I said in my post that I believe it's very important  to talk about mental health. And we know on our forum mental health in menopause is a huge issue for some of us.   I said that because I was aware of what Carol said about being suicidal. In fact she was specifically talking about that in the interviews. I too have been suicidal during menopause. In my experience once clinical depression sets in there is nothing I've tried that made me feel "back to myself" in 2 days. Hormones included.   Is that just me?  I fear not.

It might well be her experience but i feel it could be a damaging message to send out when it isnt balanced with more educated information.

Generally speaking I find much of what these celebs have to say is often just fatuous nonsense which I find totally irrelevant but when it comes to talking about serious issues which affect peoples lives then I think there should be more responsibility both from the individual and from the media platform which puts it out there.

If an individual has a public profile it can be used to raise awareness, to inspire others or even bring about change. I think there has been some excellent documentaries featuring celebs regarding mental health. 

But using your profile  to mislead others for financial gain or otherwise is another matter and  is plain wrong. When it's about a face cream it might not be that important. But when its about health including mental health it has the potential to be dangerous.

Xxx
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: CLKD on June 18, 2020, 02:47:11 PM
Mental health is still pushed under the carpet  :-\ :'(

I have both clinical and organic depression: the 1st caused by situations that I can't alter and which bother me [My Mum] and organic when the brain doesn't get enough 'happy' chemical.  Fortunately appropriate medication keeps me, generally, well.  It did however take over 3 years to get anywhere near stable as most ADs made me so very very sick  :'(. 

I don't know how much menopause would have impacted on my mental health as I was taking medication since the 1980s. 

Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: Emm225 on June 21, 2020, 06:31:57 PM
I didn't get full on symptoms until 54 or so...altho looking back I had anxiety etc a bit...but had the mirena in so I think it masked a lot...until I had it out.  Then welcome Hot Drenching Sweats and full on sadness and anxiety!
Title: Re: Just read an article about Carol vorderman menopause
Post by: CLKD on June 21, 2020, 09:41:40 PM
Oh Emm .......... [Wizard of Oz "Em"?]  :hug: