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Menopause Discussion => Alternative Therapies => Topic started by: AgathaC on January 09, 2019, 09:58:19 AM

Title: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: AgathaC on January 09, 2019, 09:58:19 AM
For some time now, I've been experimenting with the right combination of supplements for me to help my body and mind through the perimenopause and menopause journey.
Yesterday's Times Newspaper contained a double page spread which some of you might like to look at or get up online:
“Pull poppers: we asked doctors what supplements they take”.
Of interest is Dr Louise Newson, 48, a GP and menopause specialist based in Stratford-upon-Avon.
Her reply focuses on optimal gut health and taking a probiotic capsule every day to ensure this. She mentions the link between gut health and mood improvement.
She also takes an Omega 3 fish oil.
In both cases, she is very specific about the brand and even states that you might as well flush the cheaper products down the toilet.
Her answers, and those of the other doctors, make very interesting reading. One is a consultant gynaecologist, Dr Tanya Adib, who takes a supplement I had not heard of (DIM) to balance “good” and “bad” oestrogen. She is herself a menopausal lady.
I think it is a really helpful article and so please have a read if you get the chance.
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: CLKD on January 09, 2019, 10:17:01 AM
 :thankyou:

Starting with a balanced diet - including breakfast - is important.  My taste buds however alter during the day  :-\ so what I might eat B4 mid-afternoon is awful by then.  Particularly a cup of tea!

I would be wary of anyone who tells the reader that they use supplements etc. if they sell those products.  Otherwise it really can be Trial and Error.  Certainly I'm not one to reach for H&B but when my blood test showed low VitD levels, capsules prescribed eased symptoms.

I remember too we had a 'witch' in our village  :o who everyone would go to.  Mum took me there when I fell heavily, don't remember what was prescribed  ::) but I do remember her bungalow was very dark and the garden overgrown  :-\  :D. 
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Shadyglade on January 09, 2019, 11:03:38 AM
Sorry CLKD, I don't wish to be rude but several times, on different alternative threads, you have introduced the topic of 'witches'.  It's as if you are implying that anything alternative is 'witchcraft'.  This really is not helpful or respectful to those of us who use alternatives, including supplements.

Please tell me I am wrong :o :(
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: AgathaC on January 09, 2019, 11:34:30 AM
Actually, the article feels more “medical” than “alternative” because it's asking medical doctors what they take: a gynaecologist, a GP, a cardiologist, the Times' resident doctor, etc. On that basis, I think it will appeal to everyone, including anyone who thinks that supplements are a waste of time.  Also, if you read it, there's definitely no hard sell of any particular brand, for example.  In fact it actually says: “Are 46% of the UK population wasting their money?”  Anyway, I'm going to incorporate some of the suggestions into my supplement cocktail and I will report back! Thanks for your comments so far xxx
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Perinowpost on January 09, 2019, 11:45:06 AM
Do you have a link  to the article AgathaC?
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: AgathaC on January 09, 2019, 12:14:26 PM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/vitamin-pills-we-asked-doctors-what-supplements-they-take-z5nkmk6r8

I'm a bit rubbish at sharing links.
Also, I think you can only read The Times online if you are a subscriber.

Happy to copy out/cut and paste the article later when I get home! Xxx
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Shadyglade on January 09, 2019, 12:18:20 PM
I read it in the paper copy yesterday. Very interesting. I have noticed that doctors do seem to often recommend Vit D and magnesium.
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: CLKD on January 09, 2019, 02:56:51 PM
I required VitD after blood tests showed that I was low.  Magnesium has been used successfully to ease persistent cough reflex but has other consequences  ::). 
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Shadyglade on January 09, 2019, 03:49:01 PM
Still don't understand what witches have to do with it.??
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Conolly on January 09, 2019, 04:30:00 PM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/vitamin-pills-we-asked-doctors-what-supplements-they-take-z5nkmk6r8 (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/vitamin-pills-we-asked-doctors-what-supplements-they-take-z5nkmk6r8)

I'm a bit rubbish at sharing links.
Also, I think you can only read The Times online if you are a subscriber.

Happy to copy out/cut and paste the article later when I get home! Xxx

Hello AgathaC,

Link works perfectly, thank you! Unfortunately I'm not a subscriber. I'm not sure you'd be allowed to copy/paste it over here because of copyright issues. Maybe you could just quote the important bits?

I am taking veggie DHA (algae) for 3 months to see if it helps with cholesterol levels. A good manufacturer is the key for supplements and obviously the real necessity of taking them.

Conolly X
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Shadyglade on January 09, 2019, 04:41:21 PM
A good manufacturer is the key for supplements and obviously the real necessity of taking them.

Quiet agree with this. Am always worried about ordering from online sources, such as Amazon and eBay. I tend to stick to well known suppliers. Not to keen on H&B though.
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Conolly on January 09, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Hello Shadyglade,

I'm not keen on buying from Amazon and eBay. The best veggie DHA supplement is from NordicNaturals (all veggie/vegan forums agree after trialing lots of supplements), but it's always unavailable online for the obvious reason, it works!

Conolly X
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Katejo on January 10, 2019, 09:58:10 AM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/vitamin-pills-we-asked-doctors-what-supplements-they-take-z5nkmk6r8

I'm a bit rubbish at sharing links.
Also, I think you can only read The Times online if you are a subscriber.

Happy to copy out/cut and paste the article later when I get home! Xxx
I'd like to read it but don't have a subscription.
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: AgathaC on January 10, 2019, 10:01:27 AM
I will copy out the interesting bits later xxx
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Jemp on January 10, 2019, 03:09:11 PM
I understand that many doctors take St Johns Wort for depression as it does not then show up on their record.
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: CLKD on January 10, 2019, 05:27:17 PM
But should not be taken with prescription anti-depressants as it apparently surpresses the active ingredients.  I don't understand the expression 'mild depression', 4 me it was sudden and floored me within 8 days.  From going from 'I feel depressed' I was at the GPs quite quickly.

Don't be too serious about 'witches'  ;D - I was raised in the 1950s when it was a common expression for someone who gave support outside of the GP surgery.  Nowt to do with witch-craft which is totally different.  Also there are white and black witches. Apparently.  She was also known as "Granny" as she always seemed really really old  ::)

Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Shadyglade on January 10, 2019, 05:35:03 PM
I accept your explanation but can't see it's relevance to this thread or the Alternatives section in general.
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Perinowpost on January 12, 2019, 09:09:51 AM
I take concentrated fish oil Stellajane. It's a natural way of treating anxiety and depression. It's also great for joint pain, brain and heart health and makes a difference to hair and nails. I wouldn't be without it x
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Shadyglade on January 12, 2019, 09:58:15 AM
I did hear a programme on radio 4, many moons ago, where a GP preferred to recommend omega 3 instead of prescribing statins.

I have just remembered this so will have to do some research.
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Shadyglade on January 19, 2019, 09:41:37 AM
Thanks AgathaC,. Could you just tell me which probiotic Dr Newson mentions?  I take Optibac Everyday Extra plus a vit D combo.  I've read a lot recently about gut microbiome being key.

Yes, and apparently very important as to whether you gain weight or not.
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: dangermouse on January 19, 2019, 11:29:52 AM
The probiotic was Bionutri EcoDophilus.
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: NaturalMystic on January 19, 2019, 08:03:41 PM
I accept your explanation but can't see it's relevance to this thread or the Alternatives section in general.
chill, it was light hearted!!
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Shadyglade on January 19, 2019, 08:45:05 PM
I accept your explanation but can't see it's relevance to this thread or the Alternatives section in general.
chill, it was light hearted!!

You don't know the history NM!!
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: NaturalMystic on January 19, 2019, 08:58:09 PM
I accept your explanation but can't see it's relevance to this thread or the Alternatives section in general.
chill, it was light hearted!!

You don't know the history NM!!
I'm just saying we all have far bigger things to worry about that petty disagreements hun, no offence to you intended x
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Jemp on January 21, 2019, 10:28:53 PM
The book called The Mad Diet is excellent. It is written by a nutritionist and recommends the supplements of Magnesium, B vitamins and Omega 3 as well as a good diet.
Title: Re: Supplements taken by doctors
Post by: Shadyglade on January 21, 2019, 10:30:28 PM
The book called The Mad Diet is excellent. It is written by a nutritionist and recommends the supplements of Magnesium, B vitamins and Omega 3 as well as a good diet.

Thanks for that. I will check it out..