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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: jaypo on November 08, 2018, 09:13:29 PM

Title: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: jaypo on November 08, 2018, 09:13:29 PM
Blimey,just been informed by a nice lady on here setraline not great if there's breast cancer in your family,which in my case there is,only took my first one today but not taking them again.why did the dr not inform me of the risks, I specifically didn't take hrt because of the same risks.
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: racjen on November 08, 2018, 10:53:18 PM
I've never heard this before - are you sure? As far as I can see, after a very brief look on line, there may be a very very small correlation between anti-depressant use in general and breast cancer, but it's far from proven, and correlation and causation are not the same thing, ie it could be the fact  that you're already depressed that puts you slightly more at risk of breast cancer,not use of the AD itself. And no indication that sertraline is particularly bad in this sense. Sorry to whoever told you this, but I think it's irresponsible scaremongering.
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: Hurdity on November 08, 2018, 11:08:49 PM
Hi jaypo - no-one said this as such! I said "I'm not sure that Sertraline is the best one....". This is not the same as saying there is anything wrong with it, I was trying to tell you that it wasn't the best AD if you can't take HRT due to breast cancer in the family. Please see my post on your thread where I have given you the link to the paper, and an extract which says which ADs are best for women in your position.

racjen - rest assured there has been no irresponsible scare-mongering - just a misinterpetation!

jaypo - try not to worry  :bighug:

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: jaypo on November 09, 2018, 09:43:39 AM
Sorry if I picked it up wrong hurdity,when you said have I had a referral re breast cancer & not taking setraline it sounded like you meant hrt & setraline had the same risks. I did do a little research & there ARE actually some risks with certain types of antidepressants ,setraline being one of them.anyway I've phoned dr & she'll get back to me.
Thanks for the hug,boy do I need one 😩
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: racjen on November 09, 2018, 04:32:50 PM
Sorry Hurdity, you're the last person I'd accuse of irresponsible scaremongering! Hadn't seen the rest of the thread x
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: CLKD on November 09, 2018, 06:39:42 PM
Why bring up the comment?  A GP is unlikely to prescribe an AD with risks and certainly, I have NEVER been told that there are any risks with anti-depressant medications or anti-anxiety medications.  I have taken ADs since 1988.  I had breast disease in 199? can't remember - but my oncologist never suggested that ADs would be causation.
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: racjen on November 09, 2018, 06:45:54 PM
No, it surprises me too - loads of things are associated, rightly or wrongly, with breast cancer, but ADs are not one I've ever heard mentioned.
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: CLKD on November 09, 2018, 06:47:03 PM
Nowt in the leaflet with the box, just looked  ;)
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: jaypo on November 09, 2018, 06:50:02 PM
Dr phoned & said he'd not heard anything but I've to drop off the piece I read on webmed.anyway I took another one today,no side affects yet😊
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: racjen on November 09, 2018, 07:04:38 PM
Can you post the link here?
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: jaypo on November 09, 2018, 07:32:46 PM
https://www.google.com/url'sa=t&source=web&cd=16&ved=2ahUKEwjfu_2JhsjeAhXIesAKHUezCosQFjAPegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.webmd.com%2Fbreast-cancer%2Fnews%2F20000616%2Fdo-antidepressants-increase-breast-cancer-risk&usg=AOvVaw0x5kZ8XfC71inaLouyP2KT
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: jaypo on November 09, 2018, 07:36:37 PM
Have I done that right?anyway it's webmed , I don't think people should worry,there's so much stuff out there ,don't eat that,drink this,oh no,we've changed our minds,do eat that & don't drink this,step away from the microwave,flippin ell ,don't know if we're coming or going 🤪
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: Shadyglade on November 09, 2018, 08:09:22 PM
Looks like a very weak set of studies to me.  You can really screw yourself up with this sort of thing.  Just being alive puts you at risk of cancer.

I'm a bit shocked that this has been brought to your attention, to be honest.
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: jaypo on November 09, 2018, 08:33:29 PM
I agree xx
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: CLKD on November 09, 2018, 08:36:53 PM
Likewise.  HRT does not cure everything but ADs can certainly stop people jumping off Clifton Suspension Bridge.

But those who have never taken ADs surely shouldn't make any comments  :-\ on a Forum anymore than I would comment on HRT as it is over 25 years since I was prescribed it. 

We have to talk to our GPs and hope that the advice given is helpful.  Many people have success with Setraline!
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: jaypo on November 09, 2018, 09:51:34 PM
Totally agree xxx
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: Snoooze on November 09, 2018, 09:54:11 PM
Having read the thread where Hurdity told you about setraline I can't see how what she posted was scaremongering?

I think it's often the case that people like to have a dig at her..she must have a tough skin is all I can say the amount of sly digs always being sent her way 😡
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: racjen on November 09, 2018, 10:20:18 PM
Have you actually read the rest of this thread where that misunderstanding was corrected?
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: Shadyglade on November 10, 2018, 08:08:58 AM
Having read the thread where Hurdity told you about setraline I can't see how what she posted was scaremongering?

I think it's often the case that people like to have a dig at her..she must have a tough skin is all I can say the amount of sly digs always being sent her way 😡

That's sad you think that Snoooze. Sly means deceitful. Be sure who you are directing that at and have evidence to support it.
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: Shadyglade on November 10, 2018, 08:50:13 AM
Dr Currie has a section on SSRIs in the 'non HRT prescribable' section in Treatments.

No mention of cancer risk there, in fact quite the opposite.

SSRI DRUGS (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors). This is a class of anti-depressant drugs which seem to work on the "thermostat" receptor as well as neurotransmitters. Examples are Venlafaxine, Fluoxetine, and Paroxetine. They have been studied and widely used effectively for reducing flushes in women who have had breast cancer [Ref 11 and Ref 28] .

https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/prescribed.php
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: CLKD on November 10, 2018, 03:14:23 PM
 :thankyou:    :foryou:

I agree Shadyglade ........... eloquently put.
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: jaypo on November 10, 2018, 03:32:09 PM
Thank you shadyglade,very much appreciated xx
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: Hurdity on November 12, 2018, 04:40:41 PM

But those who have never taken ADs surely shouldn't make any comments  :-\ on a Forum anymore than I would comment on HRT as it is over 25 years since I was prescribed it. 


 :o

Have John Studd or Nick Panay ever taken HRT? As a matter if principle, there is of course an important distinction between Personal Experiences, and scientific information and evidence - recognised in the forum information for members...

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: Shadyglade on November 12, 2018, 05:22:19 PM
I understand that we should communicate our personal experience and that none of us should be regarded as medical experts. Also any other information should have links.

Obviously lines sometimes get blurred and people should do their own research to confirm. However members have the right to choose their own course of action dispite contrary info/advice given by other members.

No meno related treatment path should be dismissed just because it is not favoured by other members. Providing it is legal of course.

This is what I understand to be the point of the forum. A free flow of experience shared.
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: CLKD on November 12, 2018, 05:23:16 PM
I don't know if Prof Studd or Dr Panay have taken HRT but actually, men can B prescribed HRT - i.e. in the treatment of prostate cancer.  My friend has been treated thus.
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: Shadyglade on November 12, 2018, 05:32:22 PM
I think tedosteron is also given but I can't remember the reason.
Title: Re: Setraline & breast cancer
Post by: CLKD on November 12, 2018, 07:01:10 PM
My friend is taking oestrogen to damp down the testosterone.  He has put on weight  .......