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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: Mbrown001 on April 13, 2017, 09:35:05 AM
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Stomach bloating.
I suffer from IBS (D) and have awful wind and pain at times no matter what I eat. There is no pattern. Things that agree one week don't the next. I've tried keeping a food diary but that just didn't help.
I've tried. Buscopan , Colpermin, Mebeverine. I've tried herbal, Gaviscon....yes I have heartburn too.
My diet is reasonable. I try to get in my fruit and veg no matter the consequences as I can't cut everything out.
I've had a few small accidents and when my IBS is flaring my anxiety soars.
Anyone found anything that works for them.
I'm really open to all ideas be they medical or herbal.
Just to get some control over this would be so very good.
Mrs Brown
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I've suffered on and off. Mint tea, windeze and ADs have been tried
Mint tea helped
Windeze helps
ADs did nothing for IBS and I didn't like the way they stripped me of emotion
During really bad bouts nothing has helped and I'll just lay still and suffer but these episodes have really reduced in frequency since being post meno (you watch I'll get a really bad time of it now) x
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Have to agree about there being no pattern - I've had a miraculous couple of weeks of being able to eat anything but there's no way it will last. For me I think I get digestion problems when my estrogen is high, have read it increases transit time. I'm hoping so as this will mean it won't last forever.
As for what works, I think taking a probiotic has made a difference. When things are flaring up, cutting out sugar and bread definitely helps me.
sparkle, I think fruit might be a problem for me sometimes - maybe I should avoid that too when I have a flare up. Though it gets to the point where there's nothing left to eat!
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I forgot about pro biotics ! (Duh) they really helped me now I don't take anything except windeze ocasionally
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I take a pro biotic too ;D
I think I've tried most things over the years but everything is much worse since meno. I really thought being on patches would level things out but apart from the first year things have got slowly more difficult.
It's difficult to lead a completely normal life when you obsess about your digestive system every day.
I've read about Symprove. It's supposed to be good but it's very very expensive. I've spent so much over the years on different "miracle " cures andvim hesitant to spend yet more money on yet another chance product.
Mrs Brown
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I sympathise Mbrown001. I'm similar and have had to cut out most fruit and veg much to my annoyance and despair! Really big culprits for me are peas, any sort of beans, oranges, even a tiny piece of melon, celery, beetroot (I love beetroot) and white bread. I can tolerate bananas sometimes and apple without the peel. I do so miss my fruit and veg!
Taz x
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hello Mrs Brown- I've got IBS too. Any pulses, peas, garlic, leeks and onions are a big no for me. The last 3 can be difficult if you're eating out but I'm much less bloated and have fewer tummy pains if I cut them out. Same with most fruit, fresh or dried. Any fruit with stones seems to be a trigger and ideally you should eat fruit on an empty tummy else it just lies on top fermenting away! Also, pasta and white bread can be culprits. Have you tried the FODMAP diet?
Also Symprove- yes I tried a few years back and i believe it worked but it is expensive. I might due a reboot actually.
I went to Burma and Vietnam on holiday. The first part was a small group tour and I was probably one of the few people on the tour who didn't have tummy issues. I was gobsmacked given my problems. Also,you could try dried blackberries ( empty tummy if you can ) . If I got some twinges, I chewed a few of these and the pains went away. It was a tip from a seasoned adventure traveller x
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Hi ladies,
I'm vegetarian and recently I've been noticing some pretty awful bloating, mainly at night before going to bed. I have IBS but I eat all sorts of "wrong" food and cope with the consequences which have always been some wind and mild diarrhoea. This bloating is happening on a daily basis now and I'm getting worried. Can you imagine a vegetarian without fruit and veg? ??? :o
I have used star anise in the past for wind, it's brilliant! You can make some tea or add it to whatever you're cooking for a couple of minutes and then take it out.
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Oh yes, sparkle, I eat lots of onions and garlic... ::) I'm trying to decrease the amount but would hate to have to cut them out, my diet is already restricted, you see, I live in a country of meat lovers >:(
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I know what you mean about the onions and garlic! They make things so tasty. IF I use onions I try and cut them really big so I can pick them out. Also, if you use fresh garlic, try and cut the root out ( in the middle) before you use. I use Gia garlic paste which doesn't seem to have the same issues! Also, recipe dependent, I substitute onions for fennel ( and fennel seeds ) - it's brilliant ( although you need to like aniseed flavour ) . I use it in so many sauces and dishes. Wish you could buy it frozen. It's also good for digestion ( same as star anise) xxx
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I do love my fruit and veg. I normally have fruit for pudding and never considered that it sat on top and fermented causing wind. I will definitely try it at different times.
I also substitute onions for leeks, I also use spring onions when I'm cooking. They seem gentler somehow.
It's almost impossible to eat out without suffering later or the next day. Totally spoils things as you are so restricted as to what you can eat.
Lunch out is a big no no for me because during an IBS flare food hitting my stomach triggers a dash to the loo, and I hate going to a public loo for any more than a wee.
I like to think that one day I will get to understand how to manage my stomach and I won't be like this forever.
Nothing like being optimistic.
Mrs Brown
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Mrs Brown, I'm really sorry I can't offer a solution to you but I've got into the habit of chopping and eating fruit as I'm preparing meals, so I've had a chance to start the digestion process before the next load topples in. I saw a documentary years ago that detailed the fact that fruit ferments on top of other food stuffs.
I don't suffer terribly as some ladies do on here but I know that things can upset me. The symptoms aren't however dreadful enough for me to try to identify and eliminate the culprits! I am able to tolerate any discomfort.
I know that hormonal changes greatly affected my bowels. A sudden drop in progesterone always triggered diarrhoea: I never had a period without it. Equally when progesterone levels were high it caused constipation. I don't know where you are in peri or meno, could your hormones be adding fuel to the fire? x
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Hi Mrs B
I've been experiencing similar problems for a while now, and have developed a fear of having accidents that has seriously curtailed my life. I'm on ADs which has helped a bit, but got to the stage I could not go to supermarket for fear of an IBS attack. Trouble is the fear can itself trigger an attack.
I too hate going out to lunch and always find excuse not to. I have that same problem you describe of needing to dash to loo once food hits stomach. It happens at home too, within half an hour of lunch, but never in the evening. I find that really weird - I eat more in the evening yet it seems to have no effect. IF I have to eat out I usually take a couple of Imodium as a preventative measure.
Sorry no real answers, just to let you know you are not alone.
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Elizabethrose you have piqued my interest with a comment
when progesterone levels were high it caused constipation.
when I had a monthly cycle there were always points in the month when I would become constipated. Now I am 60 and well post meno but regularly, out of the blue, I will get bunged up and have to reach for the Lactulose. At the same time I get grumpy and crave carbs. I have wondered it certain hormonal fluctuations remain to cause this even after meno :-\
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It's happened throughout my reproductive years babyjane. Up until ovulation all was normal. As the progesterone level built I became constipated, then as soon as it dropped before menstruation, diarrhoea! I've never had a menstrual bleed without diarrhoea. When pregnant the constipation was a nightmare, I had to resort to the dreaded fybogel which made me retch. As soon as the babies were delivered all returned to normal till the next cycle began again.
I've had this chat with specialists, they seemed very aware that progesterone affects the bowel. Just another thing to add to the list! x
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I guess at meno the oestrogen and progesterone balance gets upset and therefore so do our bowels :(
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We are all so very different. I am the same as Sparkle. If I go too long without food I get terribly empty and windy, gripy and light headed but I can't tolerate being over full so little and often for me too :)
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I used to think that my acid reflux was caused by my diet (quality, quantity and schedule) but that theory went to space when I decided to do everything that I was not suppose to do and guess what? Acid relux was gone. I blamed hormones.
Yesterday I ate a chinese veggie yakisoba and coca-cola (nasty I know, but I haven't eaten this for years) and blam, chest burn. But guess what? My chronic mild diarrhoea was gone and stools were perfect (ssssoooooorrrryyy).
I quit trying to understand this digestive puzzle! I think I'll trust my instincts and just avoid overeating or fasting for long periods, but I'm going to eat everything I enjoy and not worry about it anymore!
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There seems to be a bit of a theme for a few of us going on.
I too never had a period without having the runs. I actually thought everyone did at one point.
If I go too long with nothing to eat then I get very windy but I never eat between meals as then the weight piles on. Although I'm hungry I can't actually eat anything at all especially in the afternoons. I see people in cafes tucking into lovely cakes and I just can't. I really don't know why. Perhaps because my stomach has been trained not to eat between meals. I'm quite small and every extra pound looks and feels like three, so years ago I started the nothing between meals rule and have stuck to it.
Hormones definitely play a huge part in digestion. My daughter is on a progesterone only pill and suffers from constipation. She cannot tolerate a combined pill as extra oestrogen makes her physically sick. She must have plenty of her own and anymore affects her stomach.
I think knowing what suits is the key but when that seems to change on a weekly bad is it makes it vet hard to manage.
Ive had loads of tests over the years and the only diagnosis I have had is nervous dyspepsia. No treatment has ever been offered except for PPIs which brings its own problems.
I've been like this for many many years but things have become so much worse since meno despite being on HRT.
Mrs Brown
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Another sufferer !! Have been reading this post with great interest. I have had IBS (d) all my adult life. Have had numerous investigations but nothing untoward was ever found thank goodness, and basically I just have had to learn to live with it. I go through flare up's, though rarely have a day when I feel I can rely on my bowel ! Like the others have said eating out, is not pleasurable , and I avoid if possible unless I'm sure I won't be too far from home. It is insidious and invades every aspect of my life. I can never be spontaneous , everything has to be planned with military precision, and I have to know exactly where the toilets are, and if we are travelling , the route is defined as much as possible by this. I try not to let it get me down, and by having strategies and planning ahead I manage to lead a resemblance of a normal life but its demoralising , exhausting and depressing. Imodium and busocpan are my friend, I stock pile them , but try to use them only if travelling , for instance on a flight, which has its own problems as there are so many occasions you aren't allowed to use the toilet ! I have a cant wait card but thankfully have never had to use it, and a radar key which allows me access to locked toilets, again , haven't had to use it as I can usually find a toilet somewhere and when you are desperate , you don't be too fussy either ! I must look into the Symprove, have heard of it and intended to read up about it but forgot , this post has reminded me. Those of you who have used it, would you recommend it ? I am also going to investigate the FODMAP diet, my GP has recommend it and also a friend of mine with similar symptoms suggested I try it.
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I'm the same about travelling and eating out Evelyn. I also use Buscopan for travelling and if I am having a meal out. This problem with whether I'll urgently need the loo has stopped me doing many things although I am a bit better now at accepting invitations and explaining I might not want to eat. Having dinner around friends houses is more difficult as they have obviously gone to a lot of trouble preparing and cooking the food. I find the most difficult thing is that once I do need to go, after a meal particularly, then I will need to return to the loo many times - like a plug's been pulled ;D - and this is very embarrassing. I can't meet with friends for a meal before theatre trips or gigs for instance as once I've eaten I never know if I will need to be in the loo for the next hour on and off! Before my hysterectomy it was more manageable as it was worse in the mornings - typical IBS morning rush symptoms - but now that my bowel has settled in a peculiar way since the op it can happen at any time. I am trying to work out how to live a proper life - I am ok at work but not so good on training days or days when I'm being assessed and observed - but trying to book holidays and planning to meet up with friends is getting more difficult. I think that there is also a degree of muscle laxity due purely to getting older and it is better if I'm on HRT.
My partner just can't understand it, by the way, but he is a bloke and thinks that bowels are just part of life. ;D His favourite comment is "What's the worst that can happen - say you do have an accident you wont DIE". One of my friends sons is also a sufferer but he just calls it an MDD which stands for Mid-dinner dump. No hassle. No drama. Oh to be like that!
I did find this online for others who suffer from post-eating diarrhoea - not sure how helpful it is https://www.verywell.com/ibs-and-diarrhea-after-eating-1944813
Taz x
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Thanks Taz, I couldnt contemplate even going to the theatre or a show, unless I ate nothing all day beforehand other than maybe a banana and a digestive biscuit ! Or, if I could have an aisle seat I am not so bad, but as you say,sometimes the first bout isn't the last and I have seen me in a nd out of the toilet up to five times within half an hour !!! I have one or two close friends who know the situation but have managed to hide it from everyone else. My husband is very supportive but I feel guilty as I know things he would like to do, I cant. We love walking but thats the most difficult of all in some ways, not so bad if we are out on the hills on a cold March day and no one else is around, less helpful if its a tow path or popular walk used by lots of others :'( Ive had one or two " accidents" and the shame and humiliation following them is devastating. Last one , was in the summer past, we were at a wedding and had gone for a walk around the hotel grounds the next morning, I got about a quarter way round and knew I needed to get back ASAP to my room. I will never forget that five minute sprint ! The lady was in cleaning and I just had to rush in past her , so embarrassing. Luckily I had another pair of jeans and plenty of underwear with me and was able to have a shower and a lie down whilst husband got me tea and toast ! Good thing is now, he will go and do walks and things and I will stay behind and relax with my book or just people watch if we are in a hotel. Its worse if I feel he is missing out too though he says its not the same by himself . I will check out that link, thank you Taz
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Blimey ladies, I'm so sorry you have to struggle like this. This site has taught me so much, I didn't even know this was a thing!
Hubby has suffered from IBS for many years and gets bloating, cramping and wind and feels terribly uncomfortable but no diarrhoea. Are there different types of IBS? Incidentally my son has always had to use the lavatory either half way through or after a meal, he's done so since he was born. As Taz says men seems to have no embarrassment about it all and he, like my husband, is happy to use any loo anywhere at any time.
My tummy has been upset for a couple of years which I put down to a lack of progesterone as any bleeds I've had have been anovulatory. I did get it checked with the GP because it had gone on for so long. All settled a little then a couple of months ago whilst away it started again. But nothing like you ladies. I often wonder whether I'm reacting to a food stuff but am loathe to investigate what that might me as the problem is really not serious enough.
I hope that this like so much of the other ghastly stuff we have to contend with is just a temporary thing that will eventually settle for you all.
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What a nightmare Sparkle, I had no idea!
I've read comments from some of the ladies about worrying about getting to a loo but always thought it must be that something had upset them. Is there really nothing that can be done about this? The fact that people can't ever eat out or go to the theatre without starving themselves before really shocks me. How the heck can I have got to this age and not known about it. I suppose it's another one of those things that people don't talk about.
Well never mind about investigating the surface of Mars, find a cure for this, it must really disable peoples lives!
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It's a horrible cycle to get into.
The more anxious you get re your bowels then the worse you feel, and then it just goes round and round. It's self perpetuating.
I have tried just about everything under the sun. Herbal, Chinese, Prescription.
You name it and I've given it a go with limited success.
As soon as my anxiety increases then so does my IBS.
I gave up a lot of socialising years ago. I just don't have the confidence anymore and I really scared of accidents. You feel the ominous low down rumble in your stomach and you just know it's not going to end well. It's horrible.
Hubby is pretty understanding fortunately and my kids know but no one else. I will happily tell anyone that I'm menopausal but under no circumstances would I say I had IBS. It's just too personal to be discussed.
Mrs Brown
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Sparkle, I know you and I have had this discussion before re my pal with citalopram, it turned her life around re her IBS. I'm beginning to realise that in my extraordinary ignorance I may not have known the full extent of her suffering.
Mrs B, I'm flabbergasted and very sad when you say everything has been tried. I'm presuming you've seen specialists? It makes no difference whether it's medical, herbal, Chinese or a slap around the chops with a wet kipper, anything is worth a try when you have this nightmare to contend with. How it must dominate your life.
I'm going to speak to some medic pals about this, see if I can find out more. I feel terrible for you all xx
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I don't think he has. Even as a tiny baby in intensive care, as soon as he was fed his digestive system was activated and he would poo. Every time. When he eats now exactly the same happens.
He is very like me, daughter like hubby. He is fast and super charged, living life at full pelt both with work and his social life, so there's a massive amount of stress to manage. He never stops which can't help his digestive system. He loves to cook but time allowing will eat on the run and at extremely odd hours. Pooing after eating is just part of his life, how it's always been and Taz's MDD is the way it is. I remember him going off to uni and his only request was that he have his own loo. He didn't care if he lived in a box in the middle of a field as long as he had his own loo. After the first year he'd lost all modesty in the normal male fashion and was brazen with his pooing!
My daughter on the other hand, like her father, said just last week that she suspects she has some food intolerances as she is having upset tummies and discomfort. Oh dear! x
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I've seen quite a few specialists. When we had private medical insurance I did take advantage. The only diagnosis I ever had was nervous dyspepsia.
IBS is a blanket diagnosis for when they have ruled everything else out.
I know mine was stress triggered over various events that I didn't deal too well with. They have all settled now and in actual fact I have a pretty stress free life so there is no reason as to why I'm an anxiety sufferer or have IBS. I think my body is so used to being this way that it's become the norm.
My best success has been through herbal medicine although even that was hit and miss.
I try really hard just to manage things in a natural way and leave the medication for really bad times.
My daughter also has digestive issues. We have discovered through a process of elimination that she is lactose intolerant. I think she always has been to a certain extent. She was always a colicky baby and had frequent tummy aches as a toddler. I took her to a paediatrician who told me that her problems were caused by having a much too healthy diet.
He told me if I fed her on fish fingers and chips she would be fine. I asked what the alternative was and was told that we just had to put up with the tummy aches ::). Twenty years later the cause was found.
Has your daughter done an elimination diet Elizabethrose. It's really the only way to discover what's causing the problems. I would start with dairy to be honest as that is the most common problem. You can have a celiac blood test before you start excluding gluten although some people just feel better generally on a gluten free diet.
Mrs Brown
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Mrs B. I'm sorry you have to struggle like this. I'm sure you will have tried everything, you seem very switched on about it all. I'm seeing a bunch of medic pals at the weekend, I'll see if I can pick their brains. None of them have a bowel speciality but who knows, they may be able to offer a nugget of wisdom. I'll pass anything on to you.
No my daughter hasn't done a thing yet, it's something that is only just dawning on her. She lives in France, where they are terribly switched on about natural remedies and organic this and that: she has managed to dramatically improve her skin after years of constantly fighting a loosing battle with mild acne. The sudden change really is quite remarkable.
She is mentally and physically affected by hormone change, can struggle at times, though we've set up strategies to allow her to pull herself up when needed. She has become very proactive about it and will only very occasionally call me when she knows she needs a kick up the backside. I'm telling you this because she is very like my husband (he's not affected by his hormones, though I do wonder on occasions! ;)) but he gets SADS and again has to use a series of tools to stay on top of it. Both share a dodgy tummy though my daughter's seems to be fussing more only recently.
She developed an allergy to cashews and pine nuts whilst at uni, carries meds for that and has an epipen though she's never had to use it as the tabs work for her. For some reason she can't eat Indian food. It gives her a tummy ache and recently mid-meal in an Indian restaurant, she had to go to the bathroom and vomit. Something clearly makes her react but with the millions of ingredients in Indian food, how do you identify and isolate that one ingredient.
She has a very wide and varied diet and eats very well. maybe she should adopt the fish finger and chips diet recommended by the dumb-nuts paediatrician your daughter saw!!? OMG you have to wonder sometimes how some of them even make it through the first stages of training.
Have you been told whether there is a relationship between anxiety and IBS-D i.e. are they always combined? Can you suffer with IBS-D and not suffer from anxiety and or depression? It's all very interesting, I shall read up about it.
I'll spend more time with my daughter in the summer and will discuss her diet etc in more detail with her then.
In the meantime, I wish you well with this and hope you find some solution to it all. x
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I can remember staying in a posh hotel for our 25th anniversary years ago; the food was quite rich. One evening at dinner I knew I had to leave the room but we were seated at the far end of the restaurant. I had to walk the whole length of the room unable to control the wind :-[. When I got to our room it was just wind but I was too scared and embarassed to return to the restaurant and I didn't want any more dinner anyway. My poor hubby was left on his own wondering where I had disappeared to :(
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I think a lot of people have a "nervous " bowel. I always had to rush to the loo before big events like exams or a driving test so I think I was susceptible to be honest.
Mine is definately made much worse by stress and anxiety though.
I just get on and try and live a normal life. Obviously you take precautions, thank God for Immodium lol. I refuse to be beaten by this so I just accept that it is how it is.
I will be interested to hear of any tips that your medical friends can pass along. As will so many others on the forum I think :)
Mrs Brown
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Oh baby Jane- not funny at the time I imagine but it did make me laugh. I got caught out quite a few years ago in Cyprus. Kept telling my husband to pull over into hotels en route to ours. He didn't and we got stuck in terrible traffic. Just as we were pulling in to our hotels underground car park in our hire car, the inevitable happened-and it wasn't wind! :(
It's ok I thought, I can put my jumper round my waist and hope that no one gets in the lift. Only there was no lift to that level. I had to traipse upstairs, all the way past reception and the 50 people that were checking in. Never been so mortified in my life. I'll never forget the look on their faces! :bouncing:
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oh mmb that sounds loads worse that walking through a restaurant farting with every step ((hug))
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Hence anxiety on eating out.
That must have been pretty bad and I really admire your ability to look back and sort of find the amusing side of it.
My issues have been generally house based. Lots of things have gone straight into the bin but the only person who has known about it was me.
This is probably TMI, but how does anyone with IBS distinguish between wind and having an accident. That's my problem as it can go either way. So very very difficult to cope with really.
I'm just glad I'm not really young and having to deal with this. My mad socialising days are over so it doesn't affect me as much as it might.
Mrs Brown
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I had another " episode " yesterday, must have put the skud on myself after posting about my problem here. Had met up with friends and we were going for a beach walk when I recognised the all familiar symptoms. I hadn't realised we would be going for the walk so I allowed myself some lunch, big mistake. The walk had to be curtailed urgently and I had to rush back to their hotel. Luckily I made it as had taken some Imodium so that helped me " hold on " but it was so embarrassing and very distressing. It totally ruined my day, everyone was so understanding but still, I just wanted to go home and crawl into bed. I am 64 years of age, and to think I cant enjoy a day out without the risk of soiling myself is humiliating degrading and demoralising . I have cried both tears of frustration and sorrow too.
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All I can really say is I understand and send you a
:bighug:
We just have to cope the best way that we can and I think you are doing great.
I know it's hard but we have to put these things behind us and try and get on.
Mrs Brown
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Thank you, I am actually a positive type normally, just some days it just gets to me !
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Oh Evelyn I feel terrible for you, what a nightmare. The only thing I can say to try to reassure you is that your friends would have been understanding, just think how you would have felt and behaved if one of your friends was struggling in the same way.
I have a story I could tell you all which would make you roar with laughter but I say too much on this site and I've been recognised too many times. :worm:
Don't feel badly, I wish you well x
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Oh Evelyn I feel terrible for you, what a nightmare. The only thing I can say to try to reassure you is that your friends would have been understanding, just think how you would have felt and behaved if one of your friends was struggling in the same way.
That's exactly what she said Elizabeth Rose plus we had a real laugh about me borrowing her knickers if required :D
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ha ha. got a better one than that...
8 months pregnant. just finished work to go on maternity leave. Nice meal in new hotel. 2 restaurants. Really fancy and expensive and cheaper one. Seafood pasta in latter one.
Felt ropey, left table. Thought I'm not gonna make it to toilets at far end.Female maitre d standing outside posh restaurant. black suit, white gloves. Red lipstick. Saw the enormous pregnant lady stagger and start wretching. Ran towards her-try and push her along to toilets. So big that she only succeeded in pushing her against glass pillar of posh restaurant- behind which sat an elderly couple, dressed up to the nines, enjoying their special occasion. Well, have you seen the Exorcist? Enormous fat pregnant lady starts to spew up said seafood spaghetti against glass pillar then slides down said pillar. White gloved red lipsticked maitre d then starts to be sick at the sight sound and smell of the sick. Gloves and black suit were subsequently binned. Couple got their meal courtesy of the hotel. The manager kindly offered me a room to clean up but I was so mortified that I went home in shame . After ruining their special occasion, the beautiful Axminster, the crystal pillar. Hubby still sitting in restaurant thinking " she's been gone a long time" "Excuse me sir, I believe your wife has been rather unwell" entered reception to a scence of utter carnage" You couldn't make it up! To add insult to injury, son arrived 3 weeks early. ;D
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Oh Michelle, sorry but thats hilarious ! Can just imagine your husband's face never mind everyone else :)
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Hee hee. Don't want to imagine his face Evelyn. Hubby no 2 is the real deal x
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No but hubby was in Belfast. I was meeting friend for posh afternoon tea. Waters broke. Never got my scone with cream and jam. 22 hours later...my lovely boy x
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ha ha. got a better one than that...
8 months pregnant. just finished work to go on maternity leave. Nice meal in new hotel. 2 restaurants. Really fancy and expensive and cheaper one. Seafood pasta in latter one.
Felt ropey, left table. Thought I'm not gonna make it to toilets at far end.Female maitre d standing outside posh restaurant. black suit, white gloves. Red lipstick. Saw the enormous pregnant lady stagger and start wretching. Ran towards her-try and push her along to toilets. So big that she only succeeded in pushing her against glass pillar of posh restaurant- behind which sat an elderly couple, dressed up to the nines, enjoying their special occasion. Well, have you seen the Exorcist? Enormous fat pregnant lady starts to spew up said seafood spaghetti against glass pillar then slides down said pillar. White gloved red lipsticked maitre d then starts to be sick at the sight sound and smell of the sick. Gloves and black suit were subsequently binned. Couple got their meal courtesy of the hotel. The manager kindly offered me a room to clean up but I was so mortified that I went home in shame . After ruining their special occasion, the beautiful Axminster, the crystal pillar. Hubby still sitting in restaurant thinking " she's been gone a long time" "Excuse me sir, I believe your wife has been rather unwell" entered reception to a scence of utter carnage" You couldn't make it up! To add insult to injury, son arrived 3 weeks early. ;D
Michelemabelle, that absolutely cracked me up, OMG so so funny though I'm sure you didn't think so at the time! I'm sure we've all got our stories, horrific when they happen but something to laugh at later. I'm still keeping shtum about my nightmarishly embarrassing experience!! x
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Hee hee ER- go on tell all..
Nothing is sacred on here! X
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Hee hee ER- go on tell all..
Nothing is sacred on here! X
You are right, there ! Thanks goodness for anonymity .
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I should say Evelyn: still can't stop laughing at the line...'Excuse me sir, I believe your wife has been rather unwell" ' haha, just brilliant! x
Michelemabelle, if I post that story I might as well post my photo on here. It turned into other peoples dinner party stories, I kid you not! My husband still laughs out loud when he thinks about it. ;D
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Sorry late to this - it didn't show as 'unread' >:(
When I was suicidal with IBS a few years ago my GP prescribed:
Colpermin capsules and Motillium to be swallowed prior to each main meal, taken within the hour of eating. I had to take 3 of the latter each time otherwise there was no effect. After 5-6 years I changed to Actimel pots several times a day which worked well, I no longer needed the above medication.
Now when I get slow transit I re-start the latter. I find that although I LOVE broccoli it makes me have awful wind pains about 5 hours after eating it :-\. I have given up on cauliflower which makes me have intense pains, really not worth it. Peas are no problem, hopefully beans won't be as we are growing a lot this year ;D.
Exercise helps ease my bowels, sometimes it's slow to 'go' in the morning but about 2 hours later I need to dash :sigh:
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My bloating has just got so much worse over the past few days and has been so uncomfortable.
I feel as if my stomach is on a go slow.
Of course I've googled and seen all the worse case scenarios. Like an inability to digest food properly.
Can't remember what it was called.
I found a couple of Motillium tablets so I've taken one of those but I really need to find a solution for this.
By the time I waken up in the morning my tummy will be back to a normal size.
I don't feel unwell, I don't feel sick, my appetite is fine.....just this huge uncomfortable tummy.
Has anyone tried a digestive enzyme that worked well for this kind of thing.
Mrs Brown
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The consultant I saw said there are a lot of studies out showing fennel to be effective for this. I was going to get some capsules, but I haven't yet as I know mine is coming from the Utrogestan
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I love the Pukka Refresh tea which contains peppermint, fennel and rose. If I have one late evening I find my tummy is a lot better the next morning but my IBS is having a party at the moment after being clear of it for over 3 years. don't know what triggered it but I am going to talk to the doc about it this week.
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Maybe having been away from home BJ?
I read about fennel in a magazine last night, we grow bronze which probably needs moving from the place I set it 20 years ago, it doesn't come out particularly well and has never spread.
So far today my belly isn't growing larger :o
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doubt it, it started 3 weeks before we went away, unless there was an underlying anxiety about going away of course :-\
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Anxiety and IBS for me goes hand in hand.
I think for a lot of us there is a trigger point. For some it's a tummy bug....for me it was a terrible neighbour who made my life a misery. Many years on and a house move later I'm still suffering.
I'm trialling a ...new for me....but old fashion medicine. Too soon to report back as yet but if it proves helpful I will pass my finding on.
Mrs Brown.