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Title: IBS
Post by: charliegirl on March 09, 2017, 05:32:58 PM
Hi all, my doctor has suggested I might have IBS as I have nagging period type pains even tho dont have a uterus! I feel very hormonal but dont have constipation or diorrhea. Does anyone have IBS and can tell me the symptoms please? Thanks Charliegirl.x
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on March 09, 2017, 09:40:41 PM
How long is a piece of string?  ::)

For me IBS began with my being anorexic from age 3 and eventually my gut spasm slowed almost to a stop.  I was unable to take on board any more food as it made me feel very sick and I was not passing much either.  I was given Colpermin peppermint capsules as well as I think, Motillium - these had to be swallowed within an hour prior to my main meals.  Within 36 hours I felt a different person as my bowel emptied, the bloating went down and I could breath.  It took a few weeks for my bowel to settle but the medication saved my Life.

Eventually I swapped the above to drinking several pots of Actimel every day, my Mum uses another probiotic with success.  R U constipated?  Are your bowels regular?  What makes your GP think that you have IBS?  Any medication or advice on how to manage this?

I have period pain symptoms occasionally even though I haven't had a bleed for 12+ years.  There are a lot of nerves in that area of the body - perhaps someone without a uterus will be along too.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: matildamouse on March 10, 2017, 02:39:02 AM
Your doctor might be right I would say.

I am post menopausal and have had no period for 2 years, however frequently get "period like pains" which is usually connected with eating the "wrong" stuff. I even get the bad backpain which is for sure my colon (anatomy wise it is possible to be colon related especially on the left side) which is indicative of a irritable colon as I usually then have other symptoms indicating IBS.

Are you on any HRT? I found oral progesterone to make my IBS symptoms (feeling like period pains) much much worse....
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on March 10, 2017, 02:03:33 PM
Having had IBS for years it has never felt like period pains/PMS to me.  The symptoms for me are different.  If your GP thinks it's IBS is he doing investigations to rule out anything else which might mimic IBS symptoms?

Maybe keep a mood/food/symptom chart?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on April 04, 2017, 03:06:43 PM
Does anyone else feel sick after a bowel movement  :'( - I have slow transit for some reason so was later 'going' today than usual.  Now I feel queasy, light headed, weak legs ........
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on April 04, 2017, 06:12:46 PM
Yep.  :thankyou:  The awful feelings lasted about an hour  :-\ ........ hate it!  Managed some tea and feel OK again ............
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on April 04, 2017, 07:13:38 PM
Thanks.  I hate slow transit ........  :-\
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on April 04, 2017, 10:02:00 PM
....... as well as the feeling of needing to 'go' about 10 mins. after I have! and sometimes that is really necessary as the bowel then has a rush  :o: fortunately I have crossword books close by to keep me otherwise occupied  ::).  Or needing to 'go' but not passing owt  >:(
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on April 10, 2017, 02:37:54 PM
I am now having slow transit and bloating  :-\ ........ I think I may need to re-start the Colpermin etc.. Or try a laxative tablet but probably not B4 we go away ?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 24, 2017, 12:25:53 PM
Bothersome this week until I cracked at 5.40 and took an emergency anti-anxiety pill to get me started again.

Dr Michael Mosley has written a new book, out this week: The Clever Guts Diet - I'm not one to buy into these fads but I like Dr Mosley so may well search it out.  What have I to lose if my gut needs more bacteria ..............
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Mbrown001 on May 24, 2017, 01:08:50 PM
Have you thought of taking a really good pro biotic CLKD. I know you have taken Actimel but these will contain many more good bacteria.

Loads to choose from.

Mrs Brown
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Mbrown001 on May 24, 2017, 02:31:10 PM
Me too Hasty, I wouldn't be without mine.

They also help with the immune system generally.

Mrs Brown
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 24, 2017, 02:32:52 PM
Actimel has served me well over the years.  But I went off it ........... so I must get into a routine again.  Feeling more human by now.

What pro-biotic would you suggest?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: KatyB on May 24, 2017, 04:00:09 PM
Lots of information about IBS on this site https://www.theibsnetwork.org/. Bear in mind though that if you have lots of diarrhoea, blood in bowel movements etc it could be inflammatory. There's really good information on the Crohns and Colitis site here https://www.crohnsandcolitis.org.uk/about-inflammatory-bowel-disease. These ones are typically diagnosed by colonscopy but there is a blood test which can detect coeliac disease which is a form of gluten intolerance - see coeliac.org.uk. IBS is more common than coeliac which is more common than crohns / colitis. IBS generally managed by diet alone, but the others may involve surgery / medication/ total avoidance of glutens in the case of coeliac disease. Really depends a lot on your symptoms, but for example Coeliac is most commonly diagnosed age 40- 60. I was investigated for lots of things before finally being diagnosed with microscopic and collagenous colitis. But these are not rare conditions and they tend to go with other auto-immune conditions and there's some inheritance involved, but not well understood. Don't try to diagnose intolerances by just dropping the suspected food though, do try to get a diagnosis first. My colitis is now well controlled and not a problem without any onerous diet.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: KatyB on May 24, 2017, 04:01:55 PM
And just realised you said you don't have diarrhoea or constipation.....so likely to be slow transit / wind as others have said.....but maybe useful to others.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 24, 2017, 05:17:43 PM
You've got it sparkle but my body was still hungry = nausea.  I have managed to eat better today  :thankyou:
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Claireylou on May 24, 2017, 05:39:28 PM
Hasty, I'm really interested in getting some of these for after my surgery. Would you have any idea where to buy them please ?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Claireylou on May 24, 2017, 05:56:08 PM
That's great, thanks for the help  :)
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: MicheleMaBelle on May 24, 2017, 06:45:01 PM
CLKD- you should try Symprove. Get it online. It is pricey but does the trick. I took it for a few months before I went to Burma ( I've got IBS )
I was the only one in our group that didn't get hit by a tummy bug. Had a few twinges but nothing like the others had. You should google it x
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Mbrown001 on May 24, 2017, 07:23:22 PM
If you look on Amazon there are loads. I use Mega Pro biotic HD.

I have used the Optibac ones in the past and they are very good. You can get them easily in Boots or Superdrug.
Actimel is a nice morning drink but that's about it to be honest.

To get the good bacteria into your gut then a good pro biotic is needed. It's either that or make your own. Home made sour kraut is supposed to be good....but I can't see you doing that CLKD.  I would rather just buy a supplement as it's much easier.

Mrs Brown
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 24, 2017, 08:11:17 PM
 ;D ......... Saukraut is mentioned in Dr Mosleys book, which is now on order.  It's a mid-European stable apparently of fermented veg., usually cabbage and beetroot ........ best to make one's own so that one knows exactly how pure it is.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Mbrown001 on May 24, 2017, 08:48:20 PM
I don't think that jars of saukraurt are any good at all.
I did read on the forum previously that one member was very knowledgeable about that kind of thing.

What do you think about a pro biotic tablet CLKD ?

Is it something that you might be interested in.

Mrs Brown.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 25, 2017, 09:53:24 AM
Dr Moseley's thoughts too, it has to be made from scratch ;-)

Right now I'm considering everything and nowt ..........
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: nearly50 on May 25, 2017, 10:38:16 AM
I use a 20 billion culture probiotic from Holland & Barrett - definitely made a difference. Half price at the moment too which helps. Check if they need to stay in the fridge if you do get some CLKD - the type is tiny so I didn't realise at first.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 25, 2017, 02:18:13 PM
 :thankyou:
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 28, 2017, 11:40:50 AM
Dr Moseley's book arrived, not to be read on a queasy stomach  ;D
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Anjia on May 28, 2017, 12:33:15 PM
I started probiotics about a week ago and the bloating has gone right down.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 28, 2017, 12:34:06 PM
Any particular one?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: babyjane on May 28, 2017, 02:06:44 PM
I have used simple acidophilus capsules from Just Vitamins (online) for years, wouldn't be without them  :)
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 28, 2017, 10:05:09 PM
It will probably be useful but I have not really opened it yet  ;)
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: DaisyB on May 29, 2017, 08:42:50 AM
Hi CKLD

Just getting back to business today after a hairy couple of weeks :-*  - sorry to hear you're in  a flare up  :-\ I have IBS also - I went on holiday two weeks ago and as soon as I arrived I knew the change in food/water/climate etc would slow transit down :( I am currently taking PB Assist from Doterra - but I feel they are too expensive to maintain long term.  I also made my own kefir last year - discovered after months hard work that it aggravated rather than soothed IBS (fermented milk). Actimel is not going to give you enough good bacteria - i tend to go back to Bio-kult brand - it's reasonably priced and should be effective in getting enough of the good stuff into your gut. I even started my grandchild on it at 3 months old ;)
During stressful periods my body responds with gas/nausea/diahorrea - Buscopan Cramps are the best at this point.

I will finish PB Assist but will return to bio-kult which works for me and is very reasonably priced.

Let us know how you get on

DaisyB x
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 29, 2017, 03:03:52 PM
 :thankyou: did you  manage to enjoy any parts of your holiday?

Actimel helps my bowels really well as I drink several pots (2/3/4) daily  ;)
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: babyjane on May 29, 2017, 04:26:04 PM
My bowel is not just irritable just now, it is downright bad tempered.  >:(

I used to drink Actimel until I realised how much sugar is in a pot!
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 29, 2017, 06:08:56 PM
Did it work though  :-\
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: babyjane on May 29, 2017, 06:22:56 PM
can't remember  ::)
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 29, 2017, 08:05:27 PM
Is that meno-brain again  :rofl:
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Mbrown001 on May 29, 2017, 08:08:43 PM
Works to rot your teeth  ;D ;D


Mrs Brown
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 29, 2017, 08:09:19 PM
Nope  ;D - I'd rather have a comfy gut than worry about me teeefff  ;)
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Mbrown001 on May 29, 2017, 08:12:27 PM
That's why I take the pills.....no tooth rot and no calories and a much more effective delivery of good bacteria.

Even doctors are prescribing pro biotics when you have to take an AB.

Mrs Brown
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 29, 2017, 08:17:44 PM
To be used after the Course?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: nearly50 on May 29, 2017, 08:18:56 PM
I think Actimel does mire harm than good as it has hardly any good bacteria and the sugar can cause its own digestive problems. Definitely worth trying a good probiotic for a wee while
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Mbrown001 on May 29, 2017, 08:48:56 PM
No, to be taken along with the Anti biotics.

I agree with nearly50 Actimel is almost useless. It's a nice drink but if you are looking for something to actually help your tummy then a proper high strength pro biotic is the way to go.

Why are you so resistant to the idea CLKD.....you can get them in any good chemist. Boots...Superdrug...Loyds and also online.

Mrs Briwn.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 29, 2017, 09:47:47 PM
I am not resistant at all other than so far Actimel worked for me.  Initially my GP gave me. Motillium and Colpermin capsules which I took for 4+ years B4 someone suggested one of those drinks of which there are several but I really didn't fancy them  :-X, however, when I did start drinking several pots per day my bowels were no longer 'slow' ....... so whilst they work I will continue but it's about my remembering to buy and use the product  ::).  I did stop drinking them for 12-15 months and noted that slow transit returned ....... 
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: DaisyB on May 30, 2017, 07:51:17 AM
:thankyou: did you  manage to enjoy any parts of your holiday?

Actimel helps my bowels really well as I drink several pots (2/3/4) daily  ;)

Hi CKLD

Yup enjoyed and rested- until last day or so 😬 I say stick with whatever works for you 👍
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 30, 2017, 08:57:19 AM
I do usually - when I remember to buy and use  ::).  I must read Dr Moseley's book ....... I might then have something concrete to go on.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 31, 2017, 01:54:28 PM
If it wasn't written by Dr Mosely I would have given up by now, it's all a bit Far Fetched  ::) but am pressing on.  Not sure about the recipes at the end though  :-\ ......... interesting angle on the whole digestive tract though.

Saukercraut anyone  ;) ???
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 31, 2017, 05:17:36 PM
OK - so for a couple of weeks I've had a flat stomach first thing but by this time of day it's like a little pumpkin  :-\ and I can't do up my jeans and feel 'bloated'  :'(
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 31, 2017, 06:09:15 PM
I can't understand why although I know I've eaten too much chocolate recently and don't do much exercise other than gardening  :-\
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 31, 2017, 06:15:46 PM
I find drawing a breath difficult too  :-\
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 31, 2017, 06:31:32 PM
Yep.  Like after I've 'been' I'm not empty.  Bugga .......... will start a new diet regime on Friday, out all day tomorrow so will be snacking.  Need to exercise more!  Shall we meet up  ;D
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: nearly50 on May 31, 2017, 06:59:36 PM
Avoiding sugar is the only thing that helps me when this happens.  Cutting down on fruit too. Hope you're both feeling better soon,  maybe it us a surge of hormones for you sparkle
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 31, 2017, 08:43:17 PM
Fat .........  a little trapped wind.  I have made a note of what I eat on a daily basis and  :-X.  Have made a note to buy more fresh fruit and eat more veg..  Less sugars.  More muesli.  Even in the bath, nothing moved except my belly.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Mbrown001 on May 31, 2017, 09:36:49 PM
Fruit is my downfall at this time of year too. So many lovely soft fruits in the shops now. Oh and salads too.  I don't eat as many casseroles or the like in the summer so have salad with just about everything.

Plays havoc with IBS and bloating. Haven't found a remedy as yet but one day I will get this sorted.

How about that for optimism  ;D


Mrs Brown
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Taz2 on June 01, 2017, 07:47:54 AM
I found the Gut Book by Giulia Enders helpful in understanding how the digestive tract works. I think we've talked on here about it before.

Fruit and veg are dreadful for my IBS(D) but I do love them. Peas are problematic - they look so innocuous though!! Any of the drinks such as Actimel have me stuck (!) in the loo for ages.

Taz x
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: nearly50 on June 01, 2017, 07:58:37 AM
I'm having a sugar free June if anyone wants to join me.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Spangles on June 01, 2017, 08:29:13 AM
Hi All,
I have found this thread really good so far. I hope you are all feeling better, I'm suffering with IBS at the moment too. My friend has been recently diagnosed and her doctor suggested the FODMAP diet. I've googled it and was amazed to find that most of the foods I eat are on the 'foods to avoid' list! The good food list consists of most things that I don't like! Don't know what to do, I will be buying probiotics again thou as I haven't took them for over six months and to be honest I can tell the difference. One thing that the food list said to avoid was Chammomile tea, well I live on the stuff, absolutely love it, however I will cut down now and use peppermint leaves as well.
Hope you feel better soon, and everyone else who is suffering with IBS does too.
Shellb
xXxi
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Taz2 on June 01, 2017, 08:51:04 AM
I did have a look at the FODMAP before but found it included strawberries, celery, carrots as good foods and I know that these set me off. One interesting thing though is that it may be the amounts we eat? It includes celery as a good food but only "less than 5cm stalk" which is a small amount?

Taz x
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Spangles on June 01, 2017, 09:43:10 AM
Hi Taz,
I was just confused reading the amounts, obviously 1size doesn't fit all!
Everyone has their own trigger foods too.
xXx
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: nearly50 on June 01, 2017, 11:46:10 AM
I'm having a sugar free June if anyone wants to join me.
Oh I'd love to say yes Nearly50 but not sure I've got the willpower!  Are you cutting out fruit and veg with high sugar content too?

S x

No, thankfully my digestion problems are ok just now so don't need to *touches wood*. Just cake, biscuits, chocolate, puddings. Once I start eating them I can't stop and I want to lose a couple of pounds which are presently developing into a tyre round my middle.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on June 01, 2017, 08:47:54 PM
Less of a pumpkin today: have eaten less and not had as much to drink.

Title: Re: IBS
Post by: AndieM on June 01, 2017, 09:18:20 PM
Hi All
I've suffered from IBS C ( constipation) for years and take mebeverine for it, you can get it over the counter( Boots IBS relief) is one of the brands, I get it on prescription now as the doctor will give me 1 hundred tablets and I take it 3x a day. Also just discovered a probiotic which is amazing! It's called Tumbiotic and it's made so much difference to my IBS symptoms, less cramps, bloating.
I also drink copious amounts of peppermint tea which really soothes my stomach.
Hope you find something which works for you, if I could live on rice and chicken I don't think I'll have any stomach problems but hey life's too short and I'm partial to a bit ( lot) of chocolate  ;)
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on June 02, 2017, 02:22:01 PM
Black chocolate is absolutely fine, 1/2 pieces for supper.

Welcome to our thread!  :thankyou:
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on July 06, 2018, 11:48:06 AM
Crikey!  I thought 5 a day was supposedly good for us  :D but this morning I thought I would never leave the bathroom  :o.  Fortunately the sudden rush didn't make me feel ill as it often does.

Yesterday I ate fresh peas from the pods; beetroot salad with goat cheese; roast veg. with trout for evening meal - beets, parsnips, spuds, sweet potatoes ........... I woke at 6.30 a.m. knowing that the bathroom was required .  I expect that I will need another visit B4 long  ::) - then it will be a few days B4 the bowel needs emptying.

It won't put me off my roast veggies as I think the tract has benefitted.  Slow transit was a problem last week because we were away  :-\
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Taz2 on July 07, 2018, 12:56:47 PM
Beetroot and peas are two things that set off IBS (d). On my work days I make sure not to include either of these two the day before as it makes me late for work. I can tolerate one veg or one piece of fruit but more than that I suffer from that morning rush. It's not doing my overall health any good I'm sure. Things much worse since my hysterectomy four years ago. The bowel has fallen awkwardly into the space I reckon! Not sure how you can eat so much CLKD! I admire your appetite! I only managed a sandwich as my main meal yesterday as I can't eat in this heat!

Taz x



Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on July 07, 2018, 01:08:14 PM
It may well be the fresh peas from the pods ........ as well as roasted veg., some cold for last night's meal and again a bathroom visit for all of 35 mins..  Fortunately I have a Very Good Book  ;D

As long as I know what it might be and as long as I don't feel ill after, I don't worry too much but should it make me feel queasy  :-\. Peas apparently are not good in a Stoma as they pass the digestive process  ::)
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: robotwars on July 07, 2018, 07:59:07 PM
has anyone ever tried Alforex precision biotic capsules, just wondered if they were any good, at the moment I use boots own but I feel these are not working as good as they used too...
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on July 08, 2018, 09:35:30 AM
I found with the prescribed medication that instead of 1 capsule prior to each meal my gut needed 2 .......... then the belatedness and nausea settled.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on July 27, 2018, 01:09:59 PM
One of the many gut related threads on here 4 new members
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: suziq99 on July 28, 2018, 11:21:27 AM
Good lord, I've just read through this amazing thread & now think this is my problem not the hrt at all !  I'm off to get some probiotics, can't hurt to try.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on January 14, 2019, 08:30:50 PM
Slow transit for a few days  >:( and now I can watch a wind bubble making it's slow way across my belly  :-\.  I can feel it too.  But can't poo  :-X
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Sally S on January 14, 2019, 10:09:17 PM
I have started to take some recommended Probiotics and I now very rarely experience any IBS symptoms.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: jaypo on January 14, 2019, 10:51:40 PM
Slow transit for a few days  >:( and now I can watch a wind bubble making it's slow way across my belly  :-\.  I can feel it too.  But can't poo  :-X
Have you ever tried psyllium husk clkd?you just stir it into juice,it's like sawdust but a gentle laxative,I used to use it all the time
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: JaneinPen on January 15, 2019, 09:16:13 AM
Like suzieq99 I too have just found this thread. I thought it was just me that had issues. Some days I can go a little bit every time I go for a wee other days I empty twice and then am okay all day. Think I need to get some probiotics. We do eat well but obviously like CLKD some of the vegetables react and not in the way I like
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on January 15, 2019, 10:23:21 AM
I used Actimel with success for several years - when we went on holiday and didn't have a fridge, I certainly noticed a difference in bowel movement until we were home again with access to the little pots: 3 a day seemed OK.  Tnx for the reminder.

Less bloated this morning.  Can get my jeans zipped again  ::)
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: jaypo on January 15, 2019, 01:22:08 PM
I don't know why the nhs don't test more for food intolerances,it would save them a hell of a lot of money rather than colonoscopies and ct scans.my whole life I've had gut issues and now at the ripe old age of 55 I find out it could just be because of wheat allergy and nut intolerance,still waiting for ct scan though 😏
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on January 19, 2019, 04:58:20 PM
Slow transit is a nuisance at any time of year.  Add indigestion to the mix and last night I couldn't take my evening medication  :-\.  It came on ages after we had eaten.  Now I'm eating raw cauliflower and wonder if it will cause symptoms - watch this space !  I'm eating it slowly  ;)
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on March 08, 2019, 01:54:35 PM
Slow transit is my biggest problem unless I don't eat properly - what ever that might be  ::)

I need lots of roasted veg.  I need to up my exercise as I found regular walking helps loosen up my insides.   Actimel has made a difference to my movements.  When I go on holiday without access to them I notice that everything slows down.

Eating every 3 hours helps, even in the night.  Ginger biscuits are a good stand by as are dried fruits and nuts.  DH can eat fruit until it comes out of his ears without any reactions.  Apparently .   :-X

I think too that we become less resilient to some food stuffs as we age.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: jaypo on March 08, 2019, 02:15:59 PM
I'm going to try actimel,im sure slow transit is one of my problems,it's not that im constipated, I just don't need to go,then I blow up like a beach ball.laxitives just give me really bad stomach cramps,I've tried REALLY high fibre diets but nope,doesn't work either
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on March 08, 2019, 02:28:38 PM
I found that I needed 3 pots a day ;-).  Strawberry with full fat, not the 0% stuff, helps my got a lot. 
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 07, 2019, 08:00:06 AM
I don't eat red meat often, last week I had a small steak, fried.  Ate half, the next day my bowel was so slow.  Felt heavy.  I could watch the spasm moving food across my lower belly  :o and it took two days B4 I felt comfy again.  Anyone else find similar?  Also, baked beans cause a lot of pain  >:(
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Wrensong on May 07, 2019, 09:15:32 AM
Yes CLKD, red meat is so hard to digest it can be like a roadblock.  We don't often eat it & when we do it's always with masses of veg.  Yes to pain from baked beans too & seems to be getting more of a problem the older I get - a nuisance as the fibre is useful!  Have read that many people under-produce the enzyme needed to digest beans & pulses & that can result in cramping & the other effects they are notorious for!
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 07, 2019, 11:27:05 AM
I love cauli., but that's caused pain about 5 hours after eating it  >:(.  Peas however, OK so far.  'roadblock', love it!
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Wrensong on May 07, 2019, 02:38:33 PM
Yes CLKD - brassicas are another family that can be hard to digest.  You are a glutton for punishment girl!!
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 07, 2019, 02:52:02 PM
 ;D  yep  ;D but must get my veg. done me daily and I love most!  Haven't tried kale, spinach reminds me of school dinners  :-\ but broccoli, apsaragus, spuds, peas, green beans of all types ......... cabbage raw ..........
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Wrensong on May 07, 2019, 05:10:01 PM
Yes, I love veg too CLKD & eat loads of it.  Kale can be bitter, but I mix it with other veg & serve in a French mustard sauce which usually gets around the bitterness enough to make it palatable.  OH seems to have fewer bitterness receptors in his mouth - he can never taste bitterness in greens, beer etc.  Lucky him!
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: jaypo on May 07, 2019, 05:41:50 PM
Broccoli gives me pain and I love it 😔
Immunology tomorrow at long last, at 6.10pm 😡 great time to try and get through Bristol
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Countrygirl on May 07, 2019, 05:49:13 PM
Jaypo my nutritionist appointment is in June so should be interesting, hope your immunology appt goes well and good luck with Bristol traffic x
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: jaypo on May 07, 2019, 05:54:49 PM
Thanks CG, I had to go private and still had to wait 3 months,otherwise it was over a years wait,just shows how many people are affected.
How long did you wait for nutritionist?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 07, 2019, 08:03:05 PM
Go plenty earlier enough jaypo?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: jaypo on May 07, 2019, 08:10:27 PM
Yeah,we will,OH taking me,so he BETTER be home in plenty time :-\
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 07, 2019, 08:17:05 PM
Get across the City, find a cafe and get a cuppa? 
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Tc on May 07, 2019, 09:37:48 PM
Hiya ladies. Can I please ask. Does IBS feel like  . Realy uncomfortable Pressure in back passage and anus. I go and then i feel like there something there but cant go anymore. It's like having a pile stuck there but I've looked and it's not   sometimes i go for a wee and there is a small piece just there ready to come out as though it's been stuck there all along when I only went half on hour before. which is new to me.  . I also feel nauseas until I go for the first time in the morning and once I've gone it miraculously disappears. I also wondering if it might be causing my back pain.

I've noticed my stools are different.  Sorry if its TMI. But  i used to go once a day with  1 or 2 quite big, wide  and firm pieces which came away cleanly  now its 4 orc5 times and  they are always lots of soft very thin shapes like a little finger. And I have to wipe loads and loads.
Sorry to be so graphic.
Does any of this sound familiar to anyone?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: jaypo on May 07, 2019, 09:39:38 PM
Have you looked on nhs site for diverticulitis tc?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: jaypo on May 07, 2019, 09:44:53 PM
It does cause me back pain btw
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Tc on May 07, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
Hiya Jay. No I havent. I have heard of it.tho.. I'm having colonoscopy later this month  so I guess it might be sorted out then.
My gp asked me to do stool sample but in order to do it I've got to come off my omprazole for 2 weeks and I just cant. Everytime I try to stop it I'm in unbearable pain  and gaviscon doesnt touch it.
Have you got diverticulitis jaypo?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: jaypo on May 08, 2019, 06:33:04 AM
Hi tc yes unfortunately,it's playing up just now but I'm off for a food allergy test today at immunology as my guts are just getting worse,colonoscopy showed up my diverticulitis.
Was diagnosed with ibs 30 odd years ago but who wasn't  :-\
Also clkd mentioned slow transit,another thing you should check out,I tick all the boxes for that too🤬
Your gut is so complex and the older we get the worse it gets.
Just great isn't it?
Anyway how are you today,have you got an appointment for dr?Be strong girl,don't let them turn you away without any help xx
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 08, 2019, 06:38:00 AM
Sounds 'within normal limits' for IBS Tc.  Nowt is too graphic and what you describes is me to a 'T' [but didn't dare post].  Some days long softish poohs which leave easily; other days small hard lumps in a hurry  ::) and the feeling of 1 small piece left - yep.  Sometimes I wee and that small piece leaves quietly so I am surprised to see it  :o but feel much easier after.

My IBS is left over from being anorexic.  I ate enough to keep me upright and eventually my bowel spasm almost stopped.  Appropriate medication helped.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Tc on May 08, 2019, 07:35:26 AM
I have had anorexia too and bulimia. So im probably shouldnt realy be surprised my digestive system is paying me back now.
Jay. Good luck with the tests today. Let us know how you get on.
I couldn't get docs appt.
I will try again at 2.00.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: jaypo on May 08, 2019, 01:30:42 PM
Did you get appt Tc?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Tc on May 08, 2019, 03:07:19 PM
Jaypo I didnt get one. I phoned dead on 2.00 and was in queue for 20 minutes. Just like this morning. How did you get on with your test?

Sparkle. I have been considering I might have a prolapse particularly as I had the  pelvic surgery.
Womens physio examined me vaginally last week  and said she couldnt feel one but I'm not so sure. I was laying down which pulls everything up. Even she said sometimes they can be felt and other times not. I havent got anything bulging into the opening but I can feel something there further in.. what have you found works for your conditions?
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: jaypo on May 08, 2019, 03:25:03 PM
🤬🤬 I cant believe you didn't get an appointment,keep trying though.
My appointment is at 6.10pm & an hours drive from me,so just heading off,what kind of stupid time is that,think it's to get through the backlog
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Tc on May 08, 2019, 04:20:20 PM
Of course not. Very good of you to share your experience and tips.
I have bad reflux too I've been on omprazole for 2 years. Doc asked me to do a stool sample and said I need to come off it for 2 weeks and I just cant come off it  my gastroscopy and colonoscopy are on 21st so I will wait to see what they come up with, no pun intended :)
I have definitely identified that milk and dairy are a bit of a no no. Ice cream seems to be the absolute worst  strange how it seems to be the things we like most which set us off.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Wrensong on May 09, 2019, 09:09:08 AM
Tc, the symptoms you mention of feeling that there's more to come after you've had a bowel movement but you just can't pass it, having a little bit ready to come out that you discover when you need to go for a wee & the fairly recent change to needing to pass stools several times a day, sound as though to do with incomplete evacuation.  As Sparkle says this can be a consequence of prolapse & can also sometimes come with other conditions.  Any change in bowel function that goes on for more than a few weeks needs checking out as we all know, so you're wise to have the colonoscopy in the pipeline (excuse pun!)  That should help identify what's going on, so please make sure you describe graphically as you have here, what happens, as this will help them help you.  They hear that sort of thing day in day out so will not bat an eyelid! 

Pelvic floor exercises can help with incomplete emptying - the muscles act as a sort of hammock supporting the pelvic organs & that includes the rectum.  So when the pelvic floor weakens as a result of hormonal decline & ageing it's not only bladder & vaginal areas that can be affected.  If you haven't had pelvic floor physio, this is well worth asking about - a specialist physio can help make sure pelvic floor exercises are being done correctly & these can be enough to get the area functioning better without the need for surgery.  They need to be done a few times every day, but once in the habit they become a way of life.  For anyone new to them it's worth saying that they need persistence at first as it can be slow to see results, but they really do work & help bladder, bowel & sexual function.  Win, win  ;)

Might be worth experimenting with diet too if you think more fibre (& fluid) might help to produce a bulkier stool which may be easier to pass completely, i.e. without that uncomfortable feeling of there being more to come.  Or supplementing with something like psyllium husks, as I think was mentioned earlier (mixed into juice & water to disguise the taste!) or Fybogel.  Ground flax seeds can also help bulk things up & speed transit, but if you have problems with inflammation their high fat content may not be ideal.  As you have inflammation, I'm loathe to suggest probiotics as they may make things worse, but personally I've found these helpful for gastritis & slow transit.

As Sparkle says, exercise can really help - I find both an exercise bike with cross trainer handle bars & a rowing machine give the abdominal & pelvic area a good workout that improves abdo muscle tone & helps to keep things moving in the right direction!

Unfortunately I can't find this morning a very helpful link to a comprehensive pelvic floor website that goes into detail about how the bowel can be affected.  But the following gives an outline:-

https://www.oxfordgi.co.uk/obstructed-defecation.

I hope the colonscopy helps put your mind at rest & that you find something that helps you feel more comfortable.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 09, 2019, 10:12:05 AM
Certainly regular walking made a difference to my dog and I find it helps me too.  But it can be for no reason at all, what I've found useful suddenly stops being useful, i.e. Actimel in recent weeks.

I didn't eat properly yesterday and woke with reflux this morning.  Also Tc, the medication you are taking can encourage the gut to not make enough acid which also causes heart burn etc..  That particular drug is more useful short term - i.e. 4-6 months.  Read Dr James le Fanu of the Telegraph who explains it a lot better that I am able to.
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Wrensong on May 10, 2019, 03:58:09 AM
Forgot to say, for anyone who has trouble emptying efficiently, sitting on the throne in the correct position can make all the difference.  Having the feet raised to achieve a squatting position brings all the planets into alignment as it were, so you're not just emptying properly once in a blue moon!  A Squatty Potty (sort of stool stool!!) can help with this:-

https://www.stressnomore.co.uk/squattypotty-ecco-92308.html

Or you can experiment to find the right height by raising both feet on a selection (piles?!) of your thickest IBS self-help manuals & say goodbye to the days of reading the damn things from cover to cover while waiting for your tummy to get its act together!
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: jaypo on May 10, 2019, 06:59:38 AM
The thing with ibs is it's unique to each individual that has it,I think when I was diagnosed nearly 30 odd years ago,it was an easy diagnosis,it covers such a wide range of issues.My ibs probably completely different to clkd's and different again to tc,it's finding what's right for you.
Mebeverine is fantastic for gut spasms if taken every day before food,works for me but again may not work for clkd so it's trial and error I'm afraid.
I saw a gastro specialist on Wednesday and he said this fod diet,not much use for me as I'm vegetarian but it seems to come up time and time again when speaking to specialist,maybe that's worth a go xx
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 10, 2019, 07:39:53 AM
Agreed Wrensong - I stated similar somewhere in the Forum this week. Also, standing can ease transit - gravity assisted ;-).  Love your analogies by the way,  ;D you fit right in - now me, I do crosswords whilst waiting ........ I feel a thread coming on 4 bookworms  :whist:
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: Wrensong on May 10, 2019, 07:53:19 AM
Ah yeah CLKD, crosswords - you work it out with a pencil then?   ;)
Title: Re: IBS
Post by: CLKD on May 10, 2019, 02:53:13 PM
 :rofl:  hadn't heard that one for years  :lol: