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Title: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 24, 2015, 11:59:00 AM
I have suffered from piles on/off for about six months [not my first bout, but first for a couple of years].

However, last few days have been much worse and have now had a look.  AAHH!! Have big grape like pile that won't go back in and it is getting very uncomfortable, although no bleeding as yet.  Will go to doctors but can somebody reassure me that it can be dealt with without surgery??

Will get emergency GP appt in morning, but this has bought all my damned health anxiety back with a vengeance. 

HELP!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 24, 2015, 12:01:20 PM
OMG, think it is thrombosed external hemorrhoid!!  Complete panic!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Galadriel on August 24, 2015, 01:01:02 PM
Don't panic... I had one of these after child two was born... size of plum it was too. It gave me more hassle postnatally than the episiotomy stitches!  There's some fab steroid cream with local anaesthetic that the doc can prescribe to help reduce the swelling and pain. They may give you a laxative to easy the bowel motions while it heals.

Galadriel x
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 24, 2015, 01:10:55 PM
Thanks!  I haven't been constipated, I actually think loose BMs due to ADs and anti-biotics are the problem.  Will it go of its own accord after use of cream?   
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on August 24, 2015, 01:22:13 PM
Oh I've had one that size too  :o.....wonderful condition  ::)

I agree with GD, a good cream either prescribed or something like Anusol. Ask your pharmacist. Warm baths with Tea Tree Oil and feet up and rest. It's really the only way to get things better.

Don't be surprised if it bleeds, in fact I was always quite pleased when mine did as it relieves the pressure a bit.

I did speak to my GP about having mine banded but he said they invariably grow back so I didn't bother.


Honeybun
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 24, 2015, 01:25:05 PM
Thanks!  Will go to GPs in the morning as need new prescription for HRT anyway.  You're great to reassure me!!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 24, 2015, 01:25:45 PM
And not quite a plum yet, although that colour!    Still large grape!! :-X
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on August 24, 2015, 01:29:49 PM
Ask for Proctosydle. (sp)

Magic stuff, makes them shrink like magic. You do need to rest though and every time you sit down put your feet up.

One other thing you might like to try today is ice. Put some frozen peas or a couple of ice cubes in a freezer bag. Wrap in a cloth or hanky and apply. That will really bring it down.

Expert here  ;D


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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Galadriel on August 24, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
Yes RY - it did go, all in good time.. although it still makes an occasional appearance. I call it the Grape of Wrath!! ;)

HB -I remember the maternity unit had a load of disposable cool gel packs designed for just this issue. Who thinks of these things?

Anyway, you can't beat frozen peas in a hanky - works wonders.

As HB says, feet up, relax and chill  ;)

Galadriel x
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 24, 2015, 02:30:48 PM
Thanks ladies.

Have just been for a walk which is a bad idea - but will try a bath later, then a frozen gel pack [which I think I have from days of frozen shoulder].

What would I do without you??
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Cassie on August 24, 2015, 02:46:07 PM
They can band it for you I also have the beauties nothing to panic about they come and go :)
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 24, 2015, 03:06:23 PM
Absolutely Sparkle!   Knew it was too good to be true having over a month off from health anxiety!  Still, have managed a holiday in that time and hopefully this issue will soon go. 

It is totally unromantic and completely unsexy as a health issue.  I just hope the new GP at the surgery isn't a 30-something gorgeous man.   If so I will lie and quickly switch my ailment! ;)   
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on August 24, 2015, 03:12:36 PM


 ;D...well it's one way to get to know your doctor.

Anusol is really quite good though if you don't want the chance of an examination.

There is nothing we don't share here is there  ;D


Honeybun
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 24, 2015, 03:45:06 PM
I've been using anusol today but am running out.  Feel something stronger is called for!

Sparkle - still thinking about that one...  I must admit to not having much hidden away that I really want to see the light of day... it is all hidden for a reason.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 24, 2015, 04:12:43 PM
Have found ice pack.  Am sitting on it [with jeans around ankles], whilst typing.   Am working from home today!

Lovely image!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 24, 2015, 08:41:57 PM
Thanks.  Am finding even sitting uncomfortable now!   Health anxiety is working at full throttle, although must admit I can't find any alternative diagnosis when googling.  The only good thing about piles must be that however ghastly is looks and sounds when described as a bunch of grapes, it pretty much must just be piles!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 25, 2015, 07:23:27 AM
It's easy to forget how brutal some procedures were in the '70s and '80s!   I had pre-cancerous cervical cells after a smear 30 years ago and was pleased and relieved when referred via my work-funded BUPA to the hospital Princess Di had used for ante natal treatment.  The burning treatment was done in 1 minute bursts without anaesthetic and you could actually smell burning! When younger women are nervous about a smear I am reassuring and tell them even if they have the treatment it is totally painless- they use anaesthetic now! I never dared complain or cry - you just trusted doctors then.

Did you surgical treatment this time Stellajane, or just cream?  I need to know whether to prepare as have GP appt later!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: ellie on August 25, 2015, 07:27:23 AM
stelljane I was just having my breakfast when I read that  :sick02: lol..... I have had piles tied with elastic bands ,but yours beats that YUK!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 25, 2015, 07:52:12 AM
Will do.  I am amassing a collection of stuff to use when I get the slightest twinge in my gums, my shoulder, my lips (cold sores), tongue (ulcers) - will add my bottom to this!

I used to stay away at the drop of a hat with just toothbrush and clean knickers. Now I get Pickfords in for a quote a week in advance...


Remind me again of the advantages of age??
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on August 25, 2015, 08:58:00 AM
Ice for temporary relief, petit pois are best because they mould to all the nooks and crannies but make sure you wrap the pack in a cloth, don't put it directly on your skin.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on August 25, 2015, 08:59:52 AM
Posh peas for piles  ;D

Every time I buy them now I will laugh  ::)


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 25, 2015, 09:12:25 AM
I only have Asda value peas!   Will put petit polis on shopping list!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 25, 2015, 08:50:26 PM
I now have an extremely cold bottom.

GP was nice but insisted on telling me about the potential complications of my inflamed pile, and examining it, she was a locum and obviously didn't read the bit in my notes labelled 'massive panic attack victim, don't give her details'.  Pharmacist was male, but totally deadpan and insisted on loudly talking me through all suppository options.

So am suppositoried and suitably frozen.  Apparently 48 hours should see some improvement!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 25, 2015, 09:08:52 PM
Just boring old Anusol.  Bit disappointing really.  Not using peas, found a gel pack that does the trick when folded.

Jeans stayed on.

Hope you are well.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on August 25, 2015, 09:19:28 PM
Glad you are on the way to being sorted. Piles are so painful, why something so small causes such discomfort is a mystery to me.

Good you are feeling better too sparkle. I'm sure you are like me...if you could get your tummy issues sorted things would just look up generally.


Honeybun
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Linsey44 on August 25, 2015, 09:27:05 PM
Previously Ive used presto gel on my grapes/plum when required.

Full of empathy for you, flamn sore.

Linseyx

Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 25, 2015, 10:11:32 PM
Kinsey - the website for Presto gel makes it sound like a miracle - is it that good?  If so I will send for some!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Linsey44 on August 26, 2015, 05:21:31 AM
I got on well with it, bit weird as it feels warm on application.

When you are uncomfortable, anything is worth a go, i got mine from victoria health

Linsey x
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Cassie on August 26, 2015, 08:08:50 AM
Pls excuse my ignorance now but does one sit on the gel pad or frozen pea bag or do you attempt to shove the bag into the anal area as usually the piles are inside so not too easy a spot  to reach was just wondering....
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 26, 2015, 08:50:40 AM
Cassie, not going to answer that as TMI.  But think about, peas mould to your shape nod you need to get as close to pile as possible?!

Pleased to report I am now internal only - defo TMI - and helped enormously by support on here!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on August 26, 2015, 08:55:45 AM
I wouldn't be pushing them inside to be honest. You get applicators you can put cream in for internal ones.

I think there is going to be a run on frozen peas in the shops soon  ;D

Just don't get them mixed up with the ones that are going on the plate ladies  :o


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 26, 2015, 09:08:21 AM
Oh dear I didn't mean actually inside... I meant directly onto outside the problem are rather than just sitting on ice!

I don't think I'll eat peas for a long while!!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on August 26, 2015, 09:40:48 AM
Sorry, I know it's anything but funny.....but  ;D

We could be farting peas.....

Oh I so need to grow up this morning  ;D



Honeyb
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on August 26, 2015, 10:21:04 AM
What are you lot like  ::)  just wrap the pad or the pack of peas (small packs are best) in a thin tea towel or similar and hold it in your bum crack against the haemorrhoid/s (will only work for external piles). 
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Cassie on August 26, 2015, 12:27:32 PM
Thx Rebelyell still not sure I understand, I also suffer thats why am enquiring, do you mould the frozen bag to the area or do you remove the peas and pack them around the piles, I bet this is causing some snorts...sorry to be dim, its a first for me but will try whatever works :)
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Galadriel on August 26, 2015, 02:02:03 PM
OMG! HB :o  ;D

I was catching up with this thread sneaky-like at work and part laughed, part snorked out loud (best description of the sound I emitted). I tell you I got some funny looks!! :rofl:

I was thinking what veg to serve up with tonight's tea and it's definitely going to be peas in honour of this thread  ;D

I don't think I've ever laughed so much over something that is a total pain in the....

Galadriel x
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on August 26, 2015, 02:11:59 PM
Your family will wonder what you are laughing at as you dish up  ;D

We did have a hilarious conversation on piles years ago on the forum. If I remember there was talk of ice cube moulding.  ;D

You have to laugh though....helps most things.


Honeybun
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Galadriel on August 26, 2015, 02:32:12 PM
I've been feeling really grumpy and snappy with the world so far this week but this has been such a tonic - just what I needed to get rid of the grumps. I'll let you know how tea goes later  ;)

Galadriel (pea fan and grape sufferer) x
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Galadriel on August 26, 2015, 06:22:27 PM
I'm pleased to report the peas went down a treat and the family think I've had such a tough day at work which would explain the giggling and smirking :lol:

Galadriel x
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 28, 2015, 11:12:39 AM
Hi pile panickers!    Am able to report significant improvement - no real discomfort anymore [apart from the obvious suppository twice a day routine, which has its own issues and discomforts which really don't need to be shared].    Have managed to hold back the tide of a major health anxiety episode around all types of bowel disorders, so that's good.    Still 'icing' in the evenings and putting feet up.   Real benefit is having an excuse not to return to the gym this morning - will stick to yoga for a while and just hope that my downward dog doesn't cause a grape style relapse...

This aging lark totally sucks.   Wrapped in suitable outer garments I look pretty good, I think.  But my god, start peeling back the layers and you can see a road map going all the way back to my [very] misspent youth.    Thighs still flabby as never went to gym after 1st child and didn't take up yoga until it was too late, shins covered in white patches due to early intensive sunbathing, face similarly affected by sun but dark patches, hair dry through years of bleaching, eyebrows very interesting shape due to mega plucking in teens, feet covered in high-heel induced corns and scars from blisters, etc.   Thank the lord I can't actually see the effects of cake, fags and alcohol on my insides!

It has just hit me = isn't it wonderful that the answer to all the issues in the above paragraph appears to be shopping to keep those outer garments looking their best? :D



Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 28, 2015, 06:32:16 PM
How long before they actually go, or stop popping out? The piles that is, not the peas...

And what should I use after seven days of anisotropic with hydrocortisone?
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on August 28, 2015, 06:44:22 PM
Make sure anyone behind you in the downward dog has suitable body armour   ;D

Your description could be me. I scrub up well but it's all carefully hidden away. I said to hubby the other night in bed, it's so nice to just let things flop as they are released from the confines of pull it in and push it up stuff. He said that was the sexiest thing I had said to him in years.... ::) I hope he was being sarcastic.

Piles unfortunately come and go and then come back again. The trigger for me is a very long day on my feet. A bath usually helps with a little Tea Tree Oil.
You can use Anusol for ever really, so after your days on the stronger stuff you could use that. Personally I would use the strong stuff for longer than a week just to get them well under control.

Honeybun
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 28, 2015, 07:00:04 PM
Thanks Honeybun, much appreciated.  X
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on August 28, 2015, 07:26:34 PM
I know how to tempt my man   ;D ;D

I, however have resisted talking about my piles....well for now anyway  ::)


Honeybun
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on August 29, 2015, 08:48:20 AM
I used to use steroid cream and suppositories and was advised by my lovely lady GP to use them for up to 2 weeks but then to use a non steroidal for at least 4 weeks before using the steroidal again.  It is because the steroid creams can, over time, cause thinning of the skin and that brings more difficulties. (Steroidal has hydrocortisone and 'H' in the name)

So far this has worked for me  :)
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 29, 2015, 08:52:05 AM
Thanks - so assume I just use the version without hydrocortisone?
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on August 29, 2015, 08:59:09 AM
yes, to maintain the condition and the one with 'H' for a bad flare up but no more than once a month.  This is the advice I was given anyway.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 30, 2015, 02:09:21 PM
Have been using steriod version as suppositories twice daily for five days with only minimal improvement.   Still grape like but just a bit smaller.  Should I be worried?  Should I return to GP?  Or should I start a fruit and shop?!

Discomfort I can live with, but my health anxiety flares up at this type of thing and I imagine thrombosis, cancer, etc...

Help! :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on August 30, 2015, 02:20:36 PM
I would show your GP if you have not already done so, just for reassurance and to check you are doing the right thing
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on August 30, 2015, 02:54:26 PM
Have you been staying off your feet and using cream on the grape as well as using a suppository.
They do take a while to go but warm baths with TeaTree oil and resting will help.

As BJ says if your worried then show your GP but it's early days yet.


Honeybun
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on August 30, 2015, 06:18:25 PM
Must admit I have been out and about a bit, especially yesterday.  Will rest up for a couple of days and see how the are before bothering GP again. 

Just heard of some friends who both have serious diagnoses, so feel like giving myself a slap for worrying about this.

Thanks ladies, you're great.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on August 30, 2015, 06:37:21 PM
My mother at 93 complains about her piles all the time.

I have told her no one, but no one has had piles written on their death certificate  ;D

Don't think she is listening though  ::)


Honeybun
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 02, 2015, 09:49:19 AM
Update - am actually sitting typing on bag of frozen peas. Despairing of 'it' ever going - Dr google also gives dire warnings of neglecting them [but does all surround blood - and I haven't had any at all].

Think will go back to doctors next Monday if not gone.     Thinking back, my issues earlier in the year with diarrhea caused by anti-depressant, then thrush caused by ABs, made me think it was all thrush related.  But had itching then which must have been the beginning.

We had peas in the pod earlier in the week which I shelled with much giggles.  Although these peas are going straight in the bin today!

Reassure me - can a pile stay 'live' and refuse to go home for more than 2 weeks??   Or, god forbid, is there a larger vegetable I will need to trade up to??!   It will soon be the brussel sprout season...
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on September 02, 2015, 10:00:10 AM
Mine stay quiet (although they never go) if I am calm (not often) not on my feet too much and if I stay away from a lot of sugar or wheat laden foods.  Also if my bowels do not move for one day, or if they move too much or too quickly, this all aggravates the little blighters.  I fear it is something to be managed as best you can but if they are distressing you then a trip to the GP for reassurance and advice is surely called for.  good luck.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 02, 2015, 10:07:33 AM
Thank you.  By stay quiet do you mean stay inside [sorry for TMI question but am very grateful for advice!]. 

To be honest unless I think about it, it is liveable with.   But am just concerned that it will never go back inside!!!

I also do lots of sitting at computer and standing for my job.   Any advice for longterm solution would be appreciated!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on September 02, 2015, 10:15:23 AM
Rebelyell have you ever thought it could be an external haemorrhoid? they stay outside and are like grapes (or a bunch of grapes).  It is the internal ones that bleed as they catch when you go to the loo and they tend to be more dangly but can be gently pushed back.  I have internal ones that stay put unless I get constipated, and external ones that are always there but flare up occasionally and become swollen and uncomfortable if I am on my feet too much.  Stress also aggravates them.

 I do think your GP could put your mind at rest over this. 
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on September 02, 2015, 10:26:24 AM
My external ones are actually varicose veins of the sphincter (anus).  They were never inside and don't belong inside.  I wish it was just internal ones as I can always feel the external ones to a greater or lesser degree  :(
 
I found this on a Google site, don't know it it helps explain  ???

Internal hemorrhoids are located in the inside lining of the rectum and cannot be felt. They are usually painless and make their presence known because blood is seen with a bowel movement. Internal hemorrhoids can prolapse or protrude through the anus.

External hemorrhoids are located underneath the skin that surrounds the anus. They can be felt when they swell and may cause itching, pain, or bleeding with a bowel movement.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 02, 2015, 10:30:24 AM
Good points ladies - it could be external I suppose as I can push it in but it just pops out again!  And never any blood.  Have had external piles several times before, just not this bad.   Doctor said it might turn into a skin tag, apparently that's what happens when they finally go down?

I cannot believe I am actually having this type of chat with ladies I have never even met!  But to whom I am eternally grateful.

Think I will get GP to give it the once over again to put my mind at rest.   To be honest, it is more health anxiety than anything else.   I have had three whole weeks without a worry and thought I was 'cured'.  Silly me.  Particularly as there are millions of others [and several on this site] suffering serious ailments without fuss.

Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 02, 2015, 10:52:59 AM
Thanks Sparkle - I know you understand as a fellow sufferer.  I tried CBT but it was a bit school like with lists of homework to identify 'triggers' and then learn what to think when they cropped up.   Obvious really and it didn't actually solve the root cause.  Most people I know with health anxiety, or severe anxiety, basically lack self esteem.   With me it's that 'I don't deserve this good fortune' feeling.    Things are going quite well for us at the moment but I recently heard about two people who are both ill, and since then I have been anxious.  Silly really, but it is because I feel so bad for them and undeserving of my own good fortune.  So I then seem to look for something to worry about.  Which makes me panic.  Which causes symptoms.  Which makes me anxious.    And on, and on...
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on September 02, 2015, 11:01:33 AM
 :bighug: for you both and anyone else suffering today
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 02, 2015, 11:02:30 AM
Totally - my OH is lovely, lovely, lovely.  But obviously wants to live a calm, cheerful life!  He says worrying doesn't solve anything.  And he is obviously right.

Now - where did I put that bag of frozen marrow??!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on September 02, 2015, 12:52:39 PM
This did make me laugh

Update - am actually sitting typing on bag of frozen peas.   ;D

Now that's clever.

It can take forever for them to go away, in fact mine are never totally gone.....little blighters are really stubborn.

My hubby never seems to worry and I am so envious of his attitude.....sometimes I really think I would be bored if I didn't have something to fret about.


Honeybun
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on September 02, 2015, 01:45:44 PM
This did make me laugh

Update - am actually sitting typing on bag of frozen peas.   ;D

Now that's clever.


Almost as clever as our unhinged sitting on a laptop for hours and feeling unbalanced  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 02, 2015, 02:34:50 PM
Have background toothache now - opposite side to where I had back molar out and implant in.    Teeth are always a major panic area for me so this has eclipsed piles as am already imagining all back teeth gone and soft food only.

Although I could look on the bright side and combine the two issues - puree the peas and marrow?!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on September 02, 2015, 02:52:59 PM
well I have just been cooking leeks, now there's a thought!!!!   :madeyes:
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on September 02, 2015, 06:58:52 PM
Basically any veg that can be frozen and is bum shaped. Good job ice lollies are just wrong.

Hope your tooth settles. I'm at the dentist tomorrow with my daughter to get a new crown fitted. I have talked her out of veneers for the time being. After years of orthodontics I think she has had enough.

Let us know how it all goes. And fingers crossed its nothing at all.


Honeybun
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 02, 2015, 08:13:21 PM
Thanks Honeybun.  I am unreasonably paranoid about my teeth since finding out last year that my receding gums have caused bone loss.  One back molar out already, three gum infections and am halfway through one implant treatment.  Terrified I'll be a toothless crone before 60.  With piles, obviously.

Am going to leave it till Monday as stress makes me clench my jaw and it might just be that.

As always, in debt to you all.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 05, 2015, 09:20:57 AM
This bloody pile is totally refusing to shift - should I worry?   Have major health anxiety episode at the moment.  Both 'tooth gate' and 'pilegate' together...

Stern words of comfort anyone?
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on September 05, 2015, 09:45:22 AM
Both ends will improve I'm sure.

Have you been back to the dentist ?

If you are unsure about your pile then pop back to the doctor or phone and get a change of cream. Some do work better than others I have found. The older fashioned one Proctosydle is very good.

Now just don't get the two ends mixed up or you really will have problems  :o

Sending you a hug though.


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 05, 2015, 09:52:43 AM
Thanks Honeybun.  Will go to doctors Monday and if toothache no better mid week then will go to dentist.  Although I think it is psychosomatic as I must be clenching my jaw so much...

Xx
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Galadriel on September 05, 2015, 06:13:21 PM
RY - when you see the dentist ask about a mouth guard. I gave one got clenching and it really does help.

Mine (the sultana of wrath... not much of a grape this time) is still giving my gyp! The bloomin thing had gone but I was a daft bat and hauled heavy bags of Tarmac... And out it popped again. Aargh! And yes... it has sent my health anxiety sky high. Will I ever learn!

Galadriel x

Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 06, 2015, 12:32:11 AM
I have a mouth guard for top set of teeth for wearing at night as I apparently grind my teeth.  Got it last year - had no idea I was tooth grinder but dentist says I have been for years.  OH snores so much he can't hear anything I do! 

Am very aware today of muscle tension in shoulders and neck so probably clenching jaw as well.  Given the title of this thread it goes without saying that my buttocks are also tightly clenched!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on September 06, 2015, 03:33:26 PM
I once had a bite guard made.  Cost £60 and I bit through it in a matter of weeks  :(
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on September 06, 2015, 03:50:21 PM
not in my case it didn't sparkle  :(
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Winterose on September 07, 2015, 05:55:03 PM
Re the frozen peas, there is a thing you can get off Amazon that stays in freezer and you can plug it in ( to your rear end) , I cannot tell you how undignified it is but does help, I often wonder if Im run over by bus what family will think it is when they turf the freezer out, not sure its worth sending for though but thats because I have nt used it enough. Does anyone get pain right up the rear passage with these nasty piles / tears? :-*
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on September 07, 2015, 07:51:37 PM
My mother has one of those, so I know already what's in her freezer  ;D


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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Winterose on September 07, 2015, 08:01:49 PM
so funny, the implement - not the piles, xxx
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 10, 2015, 11:14:04 AM
Oh dear - I posted on Health Anxiety posting that I was staying away for a week, but have gone to GP again about piles.   My regular GP this time - she is bit brusque and impatient.  She looked saying she wouldn't actually examine, but then having looked she did examine and asked me about shrinkage since my last visit as it should have shrunk more.   Anyway - long story short and all that - I am on holiday soon until mid October so she said come back after then as if it isn't pile it is polyp.  I totally freaked then but she didn't give any further information except to say that if it had already shrunk then it is a pile.

I have now convinced myself it hasn't shrunk at all and is therefore a polyp.  Have googled and am in mad panic about bowel/rectal cancer.    Help as feel totally pathetic and don't think I can wait a month to find out!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Cassie on September 10, 2015, 04:04:08 PM
So what if its a polyp, my 24 yr old daughter had one, they removed it there and then with cauterising, not all polyps are cancerous they take yrs and yrs to develop and good thing if it is and you have caught it now they can remove very easily, relax, piles do get huge I have 2 that are external and have not shrunk in over 30 yrs!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 10, 2015, 04:41:19 PM
Thanks ladies - glad I popped back on and got your words of wisdom.

Mine doesn't hurt - it just itches, which does make me think it is piles, or swollen veins.   I also think polyps aren't red, I somehow think they look more 'skin-like'.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 10, 2015, 05:12:10 PM
No advice at all.   Just told me that piles are re-absorbed in the body, leaving a small skin tag.  If it shrinks it is a pile.    I don't like her at all, she has no bedside manner.    Whilst I have got major HA, she makes me feel silly but then panics me.  When I went twice with bladder pain she said 'we better do tests to check for ovarian cancer' then just left me to worry myself sick for three weeks until tests came back.    So I assuming that this 'polyps' comment comes from a similar lack of empathy.    Although I had worried that it hadn't shrunk at all.

But, my googling session did no good - everything on there is bad news!   As Cassie says, polyps aren't usually an issue anyway.  Am trying to calm down!!

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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 18, 2015, 09:24:35 AM
Bloody thing still here.   It is about the size of a pea and a reddish purple colour.   I use ice e dry day but ca't avoid sitting for long periods due to work.  Should it have gone by now?  I think it probably started in about May with itching but I only noticed it about four weeks ago. 

I am going away for over two weeks at end of next week and GP said to go back after then if it hadn't gone.

Any further advice?    Do some piles just stay forever?   I figure there must be some that do, otherwise nobody would need operations??
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on September 18, 2015, 12:46:35 PM
I honestly don't think they ever go away fully. I have had mine off and on since my daughter was born and she is nearly 21  ::)

They shrink and become less troublesome but basically they are always there lurking and waiting to pop out and hurt again.

Does sound as if it's shrunk a bit though.

I know when mine visit they are there for weeks.


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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: babyjane on September 18, 2015, 04:22:18 PM
mine appeared 35 years ago but became permanent residents about 18 months ago.  they are always there to a greater or lesser degree and depend on how easily I go to the toilet.

I was also advised some time ago when I had a colonoscopy that stress will cause them to flare up.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Winterose on September 18, 2015, 06:53:33 PM
Stress is very much a factor in this - certainly for me.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 18, 2015, 07:05:39 PM
Thanks ladies, much appreciated!

Will try and de-stress, whilst accepting my new friend may be a long term guest!   :o
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on September 18, 2015, 07:23:54 PM
Stress never really has had an effect on my guest.
Lifting things that are too heavy and being on my feet too long are the triggers for me.

They say constipation is the big no no....I have never been constipated but have IBS D...That's a big trigger too.

I swear by tea tree oil baths and when I do get to sit down I put my feet up....


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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: 20032003 on September 19, 2015, 01:25:35 PM
I read somewhere that a reason for problems with hemmorhoids in menopause was the increase of varicose veins. Same principle in both, they said. It made sense to me. My hemmorhoid(s) are internal and I've had problems the last year or so. Am 46 years okd. I've been looked at by two doctors - one a GI specialist - and remnants of a hemmorhoid was found. I feel like I'm healing more and more, but that the area is still very sensitive and easily "disturbed". Maybe due to problems in general with mucus membranes in peri/menopause?
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 19, 2015, 05:10:34 PM
That's a good point about varicose veins - albeit a little depressing!

Am just going to try and put them to the back [or bottom?!] of my mind and get on with life.  I am really aware that I do far too much fussing/stressing/worrying and complaining!

Thanks all!  Any more suggestions gratefully received!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on September 19, 2015, 07:25:25 PM
A large glass of wine....then you won't care  ;D

It's working for me  ;)


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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: 20032003 on September 19, 2015, 07:41:37 PM
A large glass of wine....then you won't care  ;D

It's working for me  ;)


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Sounds like a GREAT method :) !!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: 20032003 on September 20, 2015, 09:00:01 AM
I often wonder how much of my symptoms are truly physical, and how much of it is in my head.

For instance, I often feel as if something is "stuck" a little bit in (feels kind of like when you have underwear that ride up your butt...). I don't know if I really have something there, if I'm swollen, or if it's just something I'm noticing because I'm so focused on it. Like I said before, two doctors have looked and didn't find anything dramatically wrong... But still it bothers me on and off. Some days I might have a slight pain on one side (the side where the hemmoroidh was found) and some days I might have some itching. Anyone else who can relate?

I guess I'll have to go for that big glass of wine... ;)
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 20, 2015, 09:15:12 AM
For some reason I can't stomach red wine anymore.  I've become really fussy about its taste , temperature, quality, etc.   and then after only a large glass I will be awake in the early hours, paranoid and anxious.  It seems to greatly exacerbate my hot sweats.

I tried port last night instead but woke at 5, sweaty, anxious, with funny hratburn feeling in chest and tummy rumbling away.  Full on panic attack.

I really miss that relaxing glass of wine feeling!!  Any suggestions??!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: 20032003 on September 20, 2015, 09:46:45 AM
Have you tried white or blush wine?
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 20, 2015, 10:40:02 AM
Yep, but don't really like them.  Find them a bit bitter.  I loved smooth red wine.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: 20032003 on September 20, 2015, 10:41:50 AM
Yep, but don't really like them.  Find them a bit bitter.  I loved smooth red wine.

Hmmm... Have you tried different types of red wine?
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Cassie on September 20, 2015, 12:53:56 PM
I have a totally different reaction to red & white...red makes me very sensitive and a bit tearful, white makes me very loving and.......... ;)
I do love my reds though.........
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Limpy on September 20, 2015, 01:07:28 PM

I really miss that relaxing glass of wine feeling!!  Any suggestions??!

Alternate the wine with water.
For any red wine you have, it helps to have a glass of water on the go as well.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 20, 2015, 01:45:42 PM
I can assure you that since my teens I have had a go at most red wine on the market - cheap and expensive.   I think I will go back to organic without sulphates and see what difference that makes.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on September 20, 2015, 01:50:10 PM
I find the more expensive and heavier the red wine the bigger the headache even after one glass. I like a lighter one. Some of the Australian ones are nice.
I'm the same with cider.....which I love icy cold on a hot day. Before I have even finished the glass I have the most terrible headache. Never drink it now at all.

How on earth did we get here from piles  ;D


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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Limpy on September 20, 2015, 05:37:23 PM
;D maybe try sitting in a bucket of red wine Rebelyell, at least you won't get a headache.  Might bring tears to your eyes though!!


This is all very well - but is the intention to drink the red wine that has been sat in to cure whatever?
Just asking  ;D
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on September 20, 2015, 07:03:47 PM
Oh heck....I'm having a glass......straight out a bottle though  ;D


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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Limpy on September 20, 2015, 07:10:12 PM
Yes - That could work.........
Do you have a bottle of water alongside to swig out of   ;D
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on September 20, 2015, 07:13:38 PM
Nope  ;D

Don't think one small glass really needs that to be honest.

Red Bush later though.....does that count.


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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Limpy on September 20, 2015, 07:18:29 PM
Oo - Don't know.
Only got the water with red wine tip from a cardio doc in Poland.
This was after a sort of cardiac procedure when I asked if I could drink wine.
Apparently red wine is good if balanced by water.
Strangely enough, Red Bush wasn't mentioned   ::)
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on September 20, 2015, 08:26:15 PM
Meanwhile, back on the pile thread...

Think it is finally shrinking!   

Going to have a beer to celebrate!  Whoopee!

Keep the wine talk coming!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: honeybun on September 20, 2015, 08:56:12 PM
To sit in or to drink.....I'm not sure anymore to be honest  ;D


Good that you are improving.

Now will we tell you we told you so now or later  ;)

I'm really pleased for you.


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Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: 20032003 on September 29, 2015, 09:36:35 AM
Question. Has somebody ever experienced a "vibrating" rectum? I know it's a weird question, but I get that from time to time. Not painful but odd. Quick googling says that the most common reason would be piles.

Another question. Tea tree bath - is that only good for external problems?
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: 20032003 on September 29, 2015, 12:29:16 PM
Sounds like it could be a nerve. :-\

Bloodvessel pressing on nerve maybe?
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: losttheplot on October 20, 2015, 03:25:35 PM
I often wonder how much of my symptoms are truly physical, and how much of it is in my head.

For instance, I often feel as if something is "stuck" a little bit in (feels kind of like when you have underwear that ride up your butt...). I don't know if I really have something there, if I'm swollen, or if it's just something I'm noticing because I'm so focused on it. Like I said before, two doctors have looked and didn't find anything dramatically wrong... But still it bothers me on and off. Some days I might have a slight pain on one side (the side where the hemmoroidh was found) and some days I might have some itching. Anyone else who can relate?


I guess I'll have to go for that big glass of wine... ;)

Yes I can! I'm having the same problem at the moment...2 doctors, 2 different creams, and i'm still in pain & itching. And I don't drink ....:( 
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Winterose on October 20, 2015, 06:55:59 PM
have been free for 3 weeks now, what a relief, but yes had all those symptoms, the pessaries with hydrocortisone sorted it this time,
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: 20032003 on October 21, 2015, 07:21:34 AM
I often wonder how much of my symptoms are truly physical, and how much of it is in my head.

For instance, I often feel as if something is "stuck" a little bit in (feels kind of like when you have underwear that ride up your butt...). I don't know if I really have something there, if I'm swollen, or if it's just something I'm noticing because I'm so focused on it. Like I said before, two doctors have looked and didn't find anything dramatically wrong... But still it bothers me on and off. Some days I might have a slight pain on one side (the side where the hemmoroidh was found) and some days I might have some itching. Anyone else who can relate?


I guess I'll have to go for that big glass of wine... ;)

Yes I can! I'm having the same problem at the moment...2 doctors, 2 different creams, and i'm still in pain & itching. And I don't drink ....:(

:( It's SO annoying, and hard to ignore. But at least I don't have problems sitting these days. When it was at its worst - last winter - I had a lot of pain when I was sitting. Now it's more of a nuisance. But I guess it could be super difficult to get rid off when you consider that most people have to use the bathroom at least once a day. The area is never left alone to heal for long stretches at a time...
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: 20032003 on October 21, 2015, 07:26:37 AM
have been free for 3 weeks now, what a relief, but yes had all those symptoms, the pessaries with hydrocortisone sorted it this time,

When my problem was horrible the suppositories were a godsend! But since then I've more and more given up creams and suppositiories because they seem to irritate more than heal...



Has anyone thried a cream called Analcare? It can be ordered, and is supposedly all natural. In other words, no harsh chemicals. I'm thinking about giving it a try!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: Rebelyell on October 21, 2015, 08:35:26 AM
Hi folks!  Update - totally gone!  I was away for two weeks and began to forget all about it.  My digestion slowed down as my anxiety died down and then it was suddenly gone.    Not sure where!!

I think continual loose BMs after ADs caused diarrhoea was the problem.  I curse the day I ever started those tablets and am glad I am now totally off them.  They wrecked my stomach in only a couple of weeks.


Anxiety has returned this week but am trying to keep it down.    Am also considering changing my GP.  When I had bladder issues she told me it could be ovarian cancer and for piles she said it was a polyp as it hadn't gone down in a fortnight.   Both diagnoses caused me immense stress, which in turn made both problems worse!!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: 20032003 on October 21, 2015, 10:17:27 AM
Good to hear :)!

Yes, I agree that you should switch GP!
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: losttheplot on October 21, 2015, 03:43:10 PM
have been free for 3 weeks now, what a relief, but yes had all those symptoms, the pessaries with hydrocortisone sorted it this time,

When my problem was horrible the suppositories were a godsend! But since then I've more and more given up creams and suppositiories because they seem to irritate more than heal...

I totally agree. I had Cansten HC cream for 2 weeks after a day or two of Dakarin cream that irritated me (first gp thought my problem was thrush) then something called (sounds like) Sherryproct. I now leaving things to settle cream-free ...in hope.
Title: Re: Pile Panic!
Post by: 20032003 on October 21, 2015, 04:43:47 PM
I've had sheriproct too. Believe it or not, that one was milder than the first one I tried. But I would really like something chemical-free and just soothing and moistureizing.