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General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: CLKD on March 03, 2015, 03:17:44 PM

Title: Haemoragghic disease warnings
Post by: CLKD on March 03, 2015, 03:17:44 PM
Someone met a 'chocolate' St Bernard this week  :-\

Is this a recent colour variation or was it a Newfie ……..

Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on March 03, 2015, 03:26:23 PM
There are all sorts of differing breeds these days. Could be a mix.

I have a friend with a Cavichon which is a mix between a King Charles Spaniel and a Bichon. This has been mated with a Llahso Apso. Heaven only knows what they will call that.  ::)


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Scampi on March 03, 2015, 03:32:27 PM
Mutt! Cute, but still a mutt  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on March 03, 2015, 03:37:35 PM
We will see the pup in a few weeks once it's old enough to get out. I have been told it is so sweet...but yes a mutt  ;D


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 03, 2015, 03:55:47 PM
Mongrel.

Wonder how many breeds there has to be before it becomes a Heinz57  ;D

CRUFTS next week  :o - anyone going?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: kerrieann on March 03, 2015, 04:15:17 PM
best of it is  have you seen the prices they charge for a cross,  years ago you got a mongrel for nothing and paid for a cross :-\
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 03, 2015, 04:18:47 PM
Yep - pugles - £900.00  :o ……….. the new owners have been told it's a Pedigree - yep, of course it is - we are ALL Pedigrees  ;D of course they equate the word Pedigree with KC Registration - well, that'll be a NO then - 2 years on and they are still waiting for KC Papers and won't believe me  :-X  :P

Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: kerrieann on March 03, 2015, 04:21:26 PM
why cant they see  :-\  friends of ours have a cross and yes he is cute and fluffy but still a mongrel which is fine, but not what they paid for him  ripped off  kerrie
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on March 03, 2015, 04:25:34 PM
I wonder if this new fashion will help breed out some of the problems that pedigree dogs can have....all in the name of breed standards.
When we bought out last dog I did try very hard to get a rescue dog. I wanted a puppy because my kids were quite young and I like to see a dog grow up ....then you know the temperament.
All I could get was collies....ummm nope I don't keep sheep or bull terriers...not my kind of dog.
Ended up paying £ 600 for a Bichon.
She is great but came with hereditary knee problems...quite a recent problem for Bichons.
So unfair on the dog, just so the breeder can charge exorbitant prices.

The KC should be banned. We would maybe not have such pretty dogs but we would certainly have healthier ones.
Watch Crufts.....not on your life.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 03, 2015, 06:07:21 PM
Agree Honeybun.  The Swedish Kennel Club register dams/sires - each is health checked before they will accept puppies no to the Register. So easy …….. if a health problem crops up that dam/sire are not allowed to be bred from.  Job Done!

My cocker spaniel had the same Gt Gt Grandad/Gt Grandad [I think that's enough greats] ……. on her Mum's side …….  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Dorothy on March 03, 2015, 06:39:33 PM
I find it crazy that rescue centres are full of 'cross breeds' which are unwanted, and yet people will pay £100s for a labradoodle, sprollie etc, which are basically just...cross breeds  ::)

My dog is a collie x greyhound and was going to be destroyed as unwanted.  It's insane that if she was given a fancy, fashionable 'breed name', far from being unwanted, she would be worth a fortune.  But she would still be exactly the same dog...
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 03, 2015, 07:23:54 PM
collie x greyhound - proper lurcher then  ;).  When DH and I first met his Dad had 1, she was jealous when ever we had a cuddle [DH and me, not me and his Dad] ……… as you say, had it been given a 'breed' name who knows how much she would have sold for ….

85% in rescue are Staffie-types - 5 years ago it was doberman, 10 years ago it was Rotts . ………. interestingly, when there is 'Staffie' in the mix, it's the Staffie gene that comes out ……….
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Dorothy on March 04, 2015, 11:38:15 AM
I'd be reluctant to have a staffie because of people's attitudes to them.  I saw a young couple with a beautiful and well trained staffie once, and this family walking past them started screaming about 'devil dogs' and shouting that the dog should be destroyed and they should be put in prison for owning an evil dog that killed children  :'( .  The poor owners (and dog) were really upset by this, the dog hadn't been doing anything wrong, just walking quietly to heel, but it was not long after there had been something in the news about a staffie killing a baby.  I think staffies if properly trained can make great companions, but I wouldn't want to risk receiving that kind of abuse in public; it was really scary.

I also know someone in rented accommodation who had to rehome their staffie because the neighbours complained it was a 'dangerous dog' - it hadn't done anything, the neighbours were just reacting to the bad press about the breed, but the landlord said the dog had to go.  Another reason I'd be reluctant to have one as it's hard enough to find a landlord that will let you keep any kind of dog, never mind dealing with that kind of prejudice.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: kerrieann on March 04, 2015, 02:40:04 PM
I have had staffies all my life as did my parents before me and i can honestly say i have never had a nasty one, they were known as the  nanny dogs  years ago as they love children
I have bought up my 3 sons with staffies and now have 3 grandsons who visit and have never had a problem, there are no bad dogs but there are an awful lot of very bad owners, who have no common sense, the staffie we lost 3 years ago was a rescue dog who had been burnt with cigarets, had a rope burn around his neck where he had been tied up and you could see every bone in his body,  after 6 months of love and good food and care he turned out to be the best dog ever, and at 15 when he was dying with cancer he would still allow the grandkids to lie beside him on the floor and stroke him.
people believe what they read and see in papers and it gives the breed a bad reputation but its really not the dogs fault, it is the fault of the owners  kerrie
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on March 04, 2015, 03:24:28 PM
I so agree kerrieann. Very few bad dogs but many bad owners.

It was on the Scottish news today that from next year all dogs have to be microchipped. My little dog has not been done and I will be reluctant as by that time she will be 13.
No one has said how this is going to be enforced though.....can't think how they will do it.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 04, 2015, 03:30:07 PM
However - the Royal College of Vet Surgeons told their Vets. not to tell people if a rescue dog was taken in to be checked because they didn't want their Members to be implicated in a Court Case  ::)

Microchips can migrate too!  It should be necessary for Pet Passports, otherwise - hopefully Vets will use their discretion.

I haven't met a bad Staffie yet.  People forget what they were bred for i.e. bull baiting and some really don't like other dogs  ::) - so long as the owner is aware of the breed's history and takes appropriate steps to make sure that the dog is socialised …….

One reason why I bought a dog in the 1980s was due to the sad publicity.  She became a PAT-dog with a high local profile  :-*  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on March 04, 2015, 03:36:55 PM
There were always dogs in my family and apart from a few gaps I really can't think of ever being without one.
There have been...Alsatians, spaniels,poodles, Irish setters, retrievers and now a Bichon.

None of my dogs had behavioural problems except the setter. She was nuts and the only one that could control her was hubby.

I just love having a dog in the house. It does limit you to where you can holiday but I really don't care. They give so much.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 04, 2015, 03:39:34 PM
Irish setters never grow up  ;D they seem to have springs in their feet ………

Most of the breeds in our family were gun dogs/terriers and a few mongrels ……. then my spaniel  :-*
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: kerrieann on March 04, 2015, 03:49:56 PM
Ours was microchipped not long after we got him honeybun but as you say i cant see how they can possibly enforce this.
The staffy we have now is fine with other dogs he loves puppies and big dogs he loves our neighbours Alsatian and the one they had before and he adores a great dane that he sees on his walks, he thinks all other dogs want to play and the only time he is not happy is if a dog starts growling and barking at him then he will growl, but that to me is natural, if someone shouts at me i will shout back  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 04, 2015, 03:55:12 PM
Yep!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Dorothy on March 04, 2015, 07:02:12 PM
Honeybun, are you worried that your dog's age will make it stressful for her to be microchipped? My current dog was microchipped when she came, but I had my previous one done and he didn't seem to notice it - just like a slightly bigger injection than usual. 

Apparently, the reason vets don't do anything if a stolen dog is brought into the surgery by someone not the owner is because of 'client confidentiality and data protection' - which is the craziest thing I have ever heard, especially as you are breaking the law if you discover a stray dog and don't report it.  But at least microchipping means you have a greater chance of recovering your dog if the person who finds it is honest.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on March 04, 2015, 07:23:11 PM
She is a tough little thing....I just don't see the point at her age.....we have a few years left hopefully .....so why bother springs to mind. It has been offered before but as I never let her off the lead and our garden is enclosed I don't see the point.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 04, 2015, 08:35:58 PM
Honeybun - neither do I.  Nor do I believe in constant boosters ……. once a dog gets to age 8 the immunity should be there!

Dorothy - thanks, your explanation was clearer than mine was …….
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on March 04, 2015, 10:16:04 PM
I do have her booster done. There is distemper around and parvo too so im not prepared to take the risk.

I wil have to wait and see exactly how the powers that be try to enforce this.....can't see them having much luck to be honest.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 05, 2015, 07:49:50 AM
It's a money maker for someone  >:(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 08, 2015, 09:31:02 PM
Sadly an Irish Setter died suddenly on return to Belgium from the UK Crufts event.  Maybe it's not such a good idea for dogs to have Pet Passports though in this case poisoning is suspected.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on March 08, 2015, 09:33:14 PM
They are lovely dogs but just mad. Poor thing, who would do such a thing.  :-\


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 08, 2015, 09:35:56 PM
Sad.  Not an Event I particularly endorse …….. too much back biting etc., been there done all that  ::) and my dog got Oh So Bored  ;D

What won? 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 09, 2015, 02:30:10 PM
A Scottish terrier from Russia  ::)

Now they have their own terriers - strangely called 'Russian'  ::) ……… a larger version of our Scottie …… I don't agree with all this transportation of dogs/horses/cats across the World for showing/jumping/dressage  :-X  :-\ ……..
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 18, 2015, 05:29:28 PM
Apparently a Shit Zu has had a hair cut - it took 5 HOURS to cut his oily, matted coat, bath him and clean him up  :'( he's 3 years old and gradually beginning to trust humans.  He's looking for a home, of course  ::) - in Yorkshire  :-*
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on May 11, 2015, 01:35:48 PM
Well Mazzy and Mrs J now have puppies  :o ……..  ;D

Irish setters never grow up  :P ……… do add all the fun as you go along!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: hellen on May 11, 2015, 01:56:10 PM
no i dont think there is a chocolate st bernard, most likely a newfie as you though xx
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on May 11, 2015, 02:02:49 PM
I know there isn't, I've been in touch with a breeder  ;)

Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on May 11, 2015, 03:31:29 PM
I used to have an Irish setter. Great dog who looked beautiful. Impossible to train. Let her off the lead and she was gone.....a red tail in the distance. Loved her to bits but she was as mad as a hatter.

I even paid for her to go to training school...did it work did it heck. Hubby was the only one who had any control. Lovely dog though,but wild.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on May 11, 2015, 09:15:59 PM
Irish then  ;) ………. red headed wild child ………. she wasn't deaf though?  They are hunt, point, retrieve so should have that pointing attitude, i.e. they 'set' at scent.  Like pointers - my cocker would go to point for ages - usually it was a shrew, long gone  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on May 11, 2015, 09:55:17 PM
Selective hearing, and she was gun shy  ;D

Good for patting though.  ;D


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on May 12, 2015, 01:09:31 PM
Gentle are the Irish  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on May 24, 2015, 06:32:05 PM
Just when I think I've seen it all:  2-day I met a very calm Czechoslovakian Wolfdog.

Brindle in colour.  Standing the height of a well-bred GSD.  Lives with 2 others dogs and apparently, apart from not allowing them to share his bowl he is laid back and very much a pack animal.  Do we really need another breed in the UK though, having looked at CZEC Wolfdog Rescue we don't  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on May 25, 2015, 12:00:24 PM
I can't own pets any more.  They cause too much anxiety  :'( which is why I enjoy being a 'fairs' I get to stroke and walk away  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: oldsheep on June 02, 2015, 10:38:29 AM
I miss my cats so much don't think I could ever get another.

I've been researching dog breeds that can live in flats. A friend's mum is having a litter of either norfolk or norwich terriers. He says they are great characters and don't bark.
Q: would they (as a rule, I know each dog is different) get on with a fox terrier as we have one that lives downstairs? Would they also be driven nuts by smells of foxes in the communal garden? Neighbour should've got a labrador or something that isn't hard wired to think fox all the time.
I want a dog that's gentle, plays and I can cuddle. Soppy eyes. The fox terrier isn't cute at all; just runs and chases what he thinks is a fox. Hates being petted.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 02, 2015, 11:49:16 AM
Think what terriers were initially bred for.  Most were put down holes after badgers, rabbits, rats, stoats …… so the chase instinct is high as is the nipping tendency.  My JR would run off with an ear cocked my way, like 'I'll be back in my own time'  ::) ……… she would also fight with anything larger than herself.  Fox terriers kind of bounce along on their toes somehow.  Have a word with the owner downstairs to see what her dog is like with others, go for a walk with them to see how it reacts!  How often do you meet on the stairs?

However, Norfolk (ears down), Norwich (ears up like the Cathedral  ;) ) terriers are 'flat sized'.  A dog is to an extent is what the owner makes it, you are aware of the chase tendency so you could be absolutely fine with one.  They are a nice size.  Friendly.  Need cuddles and grooming, regular walks and should be kept occupied. 

Go and have a look at the breeder/potential litter? 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on June 02, 2015, 01:09:03 PM
A Bichon would be great in a flat. One draw back is they can be a bit barky. Apart from that they are great little dogs. They love company, are sociable and love nothing better than sitting on your knee at night all cuddled up. They have big personalities in a little body. Oh and they don't cast so no hair everywhere.

They are also happy with as much or as little walking as you want to give them.

I just love mine.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 02, 2015, 01:48:08 PM
Most dogs will bark if allowed to  ;) except the Basenji which apparently sings  ;D

Mini poodle - they don't shed, are active and happy to be with people
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: kerrieann on June 02, 2015, 03:50:14 PM
i keep looking for a little scruffy cross breed, but i will not pay the money they are asking for a mongrel  >:(  i just dont know how they can charge 500 for a cross, we know someone with a cross bichon, he is so cute and full of character but 450, no, thats not right surely  :-\
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on June 02, 2015, 07:17:39 PM
I paid more than that for mine 11 years ago but her mum was a breed champion. I've never regretted the money. She has paid us back with fun and affection for all these years.
My last dog was a Golden Retriever, she cost me 450 over 20 years ago. If you go to a breeder then those are the prices you will pay.
I have a friend that breeds the most wonderful Dobermans....not my kind of dog but these are stunning. She travels all over Europe with her stud dogs...,that's how good they are. When she has a litter that she is selling she maintains if you have to ask how much they are you are not the person she wants to sell to  :o
They sell for in excess of £1200 each.

Have you thought about a rescue dog. You might be able to get what you want and give a little dog a loving home.
If it's a specific breed you are after then most breeds have a website that re homes dogs that have been handed back to the breed society.

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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: kerrieann on June 02, 2015, 08:01:55 PM
honeybun ,yours is a pedigree though,we paid 700 for our staffy as he is full pedigree, i just object to paying so much for a cross breed, i keep looking on the rescue site but cant seem to find anything, the dog before this one was a rescue and he was the most loyal,  loving dog you could wish for  kerrie
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on June 02, 2015, 09:13:47 PM
I looked for a rescue dog too but could only get staffies or collies neither of which I thought was suitable for us...hence the Bichon

I hope you manage to find something. Sometimes our vet has adverts in her surgery or knows of litters that have just been born.

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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: kerrieann on June 02, 2015, 09:18:19 PM
i didnt think about asking at vets, its worth asking though as not everyone wants a cross i suppose  kerrie
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on June 02, 2015, 09:23:01 PM
Give them a call, and let us know if you find one.


I just love puppies  ::)

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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: kerrieann on June 02, 2015, 09:25:53 PM
yes will do  :) i love puppies and dogs in general, actually prefer them to some people, does that sound bad  :-\
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 02, 2015, 10:22:36 PM
Nope  ;D not from where I'm sitting.

1st cross are usually a good choice but there is a high price to pay.  Long gone are the days when mongrels ran around the streets with the kids and puppies were in pet shop windows  ::)

Sadly many of the rescue centres charge £100+ and are very strict on their criteria for re-homing which is why cats/dogs languish in kennel situations instead of being in a loving home  :'(  :bang: :bang: :bang:

It is because people will pay for a KC Pedigree (which means very little) that breeders can charge almost what they want.  One excuse is that if people pay lots of money for a puppy it won't get dumped, well, actually ………..  :'(

The Cinnamon Trust like volunteers, that might be a way to go  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Greyhoundgal on June 03, 2015, 12:23:24 PM


Sadly many of the rescue centres charge £100+ and are very strict on their criteria for re-homing which is why cats/dogs languish in kennel situations instead of being in a loving home  :'(  :bang: :bang: :bang:



Most of them charge that to cover their costs - we get our dogs from our local branch of the RGT (Retired Greyhound Trust) but before them come home they have a full dental, vaccinations and will either be spayed or castrated so when you price all that up you get a good deal.  Ours also came with their own collars and leads, muzzles and a walking-out coat (probably another £70/80).  I also do home-checking for them and on the whole I think they are a little more approachable if you work etc - unlike a well-known homing centre a neighbour of ours approached, because she went out one morning a week to volunteer at her daughters school she was turned down!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: kerrieann on June 03, 2015, 03:42:31 PM
i dont mind paying 100 or so, but i feel much more for a cross is taking the p,  like clkd said some people will pay 600 or so, but it doesnt always mean they will love and care for them for the rest of their days  :(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: oldsheep on June 03, 2015, 05:17:46 PM
I'll have to speak to the owner as he regularly walks his fox terrier in the local park. I assume he might be more territorial at home though?
I know he's fine with a labrador but that's too big for us. I like the norfolk size as I tend not to like very small or very big dogs.
My friend has a miniature pinscher and all he does is yap and is a complete tyrant....
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 03, 2015, 07:55:23 PM
 ;D  Miniature Pinzer or Manchester Terrier - same genealogy what ever and they are ratters: and if allowed do, they will bark.

Getting to know the fox terrier might be the way to go …….. no dog should be territorial around property, after all, the dog does not own the property, doesn't pay the rent/rates/water bills  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 13, 2015, 02:47:52 PM
How's the pups Mrs J?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Annie0710 on June 13, 2015, 09:42:49 PM
We've got a chocolate lab (I'm allergic to him !) and a friend of my step daughters bought a shih tzu puppy 3 years ago but within a month or 2 she couldn't cope do we paid her £350 for him, we got him housetrained within a week and he is such a naughty dog, no one understands why we love him so much, we have to tell him off so much  but I can guarantee he'll make us laugh as well every day.  His facial expressions give us belly laughs, one of our cats loves him to bits the other can't stand him

But we took him on and he's our family

Annie xx
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 14, 2015, 02:22:46 PM
Shitezu are cute ……… were bred I think to sleep in muffs to keep hands warm and to be guarding …… or was that Lhasas? same genealogy though. My cocker used to grin and frown, she was also great at the Very Big Sigh  ;D

I met a BichonxCavalier last week.  5 months old and looked nothing like it's parents  ::) and was beginning to food and toy guard.  Such a small pup to be growling, I talked long with the owners giving hints: i.e. keep toys only to play with and not allow him to have them at other times; to feed dry food by hand and to use something he really likes food wise when doing 'swapsies' for his toys; to sit in his bed and invite him in …....  I had other ideas later on  ::) like keeping him on a lead when playing so that he can be reeled in and the toy taken off him.  At 5 months he's too sharp to be growling  >:( - he needs to be taught manners but I think the owners were a little soft - he is black and curly and a bundle of 'I'm having my own way' - 'butter wouldn't melt'  ;D. 

I loves a challenge I does  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on June 14, 2015, 02:29:22 PM
I have a friend with that breed CLKD, it's called a Cavichon.

Bichons are feisty as pups so the little dog you met is very normal. They do grow out of it though. Ours did and so did my friends. Basically they are very loving little dogs so really not much of a challenge at all.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 14, 2015, 02:33:47 PM
Is it black?  Certainly it was sweet but growing shouldn't be allowed - I knew a Yorkie who ruled the house hold  ::) until I stepped in  ;) ………. big heart in a small body it was but soon taught that the owner owned the bed not the dog and learnt to get up on furniture only when invited  ;) …….. it didn't need to bite, started off by barring it's teeth with lips drawn back and a deep growl for such a small dog  ;D …….. I gave it a glove to grip then picked it off the bed, several times  :whist: it looked a little confused initially!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Annie0710 on June 14, 2015, 03:40:55 PM
Shitezu are cute ……… were bred I think to sleep in muffs to keep hands warm and to be guarding …… or was that Lhasas? same genealogy though. My cocker used to grin and frown, she was also great at the Very Big Sigh  ;D

I met a BichonxCavalier last week.  5 months old and looked nothing like it's parents  ::) and was beginning to food and toy guard.  Such a small pup to be growling, I talked long with the owners giving hints: i.e. keep toys only to play with and not allow him to have them at other times; to feed dry food by hand and to use something he really likes food wise when doing 'swapsies' for his toys; to sit in his bed and invite him in …....  I had other ideas later on  ::) like keeping him on a lead when playing so that he can be reeled in and the toy taken off him.  At 5 months he's too sharp to be growling  >:( - he needs to be taught manners but I think the owners were a little soft - he is black and curly and a bundle of 'I'm having my own way' - 'butter wouldn't melt'  ;D. 

I loves a challenge I does  ;)

He sits at the window cill constantly and barks at anyone /anything that comes near our property, and when the lab doesn't help him he tells him off !

He's devoted to OH and sits waiting for him to come home, and cries like a baby when he sees his van, and acts like he's going to bite (he hasn't ) when people leave the home, when he's done as he's told he's so excited with our praises

Hard work but worth it

Annie xx
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 14, 2015, 03:44:46 PM
My Cocker would 'sing' when DH came home from work, it was for him and only once did she sing to me  ::) - how much was due to the fact that she would get her evening meal once he was home we never worked out  ;D ! She also learned to stamp her front feet if she didn't get her own way  ;D …….. not a strop but 'you've forgotten to feed me'  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Annie0710 on June 14, 2015, 03:50:46 PM
Pets are funny, years ago I had a parakeet who I taught loads of words

If I told him off he'd act like head butting and would say 'ner' like I'm not listening, he was hilarious

Annie xx
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 14, 2015, 03:53:39 PM
A friend when I was growing up kept budgies - they all learned to talk and flew free around the lounge when we were there.  One would trill like a 'phone ringing  :D - then put his head under his wing when his owner got up to answer it, usually when she was watching TV ……
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Annie0710 on June 14, 2015, 07:46:56 PM
Lol

My middle child loved jigsaws and our bird would run down ex husbands leg, steal a piece of jigsaw run back up and drop it down his shirt, he had my mums laugh to a tee, sang and danced to reggae and sang nursery rhymes

If I left the room he'd shout "muuuuum" obviously heard the kids say it so often !

So many things he would say/do, he had a lisp and when we stroked him he'd say "nice" with his lisp


Annie xx
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 15, 2015, 01:37:01 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on July 01, 2015, 01:17:57 PM
Whilst in Robin Hood's Bay on Sunday I saw a tattooed burly man with an Akita; another bloke with an American bulldog and a child of about 12 holding a slightly smaller A Bulldog, now if that wasn't an accident waiting to happen  :-\ - however, there was also a bloke with 3 kids and 3 black Labs. which were running loose - under the Dangerous Dogs Act they would have been 'a dog/s out of control in a Public Place' particularly as the Labs. were running out of sight at times.

I could see that he had some kind of control over the dogs because I know how working Labs. behave, but had they run round a corner into the faces of the dogs 'above'  :o. 

Why can't dog owners appreciate that a) not everyone wants wet salty dogs around their legs and b) that the DDA applies to all owners  :-\  :'( and that, even before this more recent Law, under the DDA *anywhere* becomes a Public Place: your car, your garden, your lounge ……… which is how Dempsey was snatched from his family in the 1990s  :'(

Otherwise I met some FabULus dogs in Yorkshire ……….  :-*
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on August 14, 2015, 07:05:11 PM
Bumped up for SadLynda who was asking where is the dog thread
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on August 14, 2015, 07:07:45 PM
 :thankyou:

Did anyone see the St Bernard have fun on an artificial snow slope - she was suffering from bone cancer so was PTS the day after having had FUN  :-*

Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on August 14, 2015, 07:08:28 PM
Next door neighbours have a new pup....a flat coated retriever called Scout. She is lovely. Luckily there is a big fence and a load of plants between us and them. That means my Bichon won't bark too much  ::)


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on August 14, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
Black Honeybun? 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babypink2807 on August 15, 2015, 07:02:18 AM
I have a Staffie from a pup she is great.  Admit not good with other dogs but great with people and what characters they are. Love them
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: SadLynda on August 15, 2015, 10:02:33 AM
Thank you.  I am at home now with doggie folks.

As usual I see CLKD has the same view as me on dogs and the DDA, shame nobody else out there seems to recognise it.  I just had a rant on the FB staffie group about small children with dogs when out.

Today's walk as is usually the case at weekend was awful, with my spending all my time taking avoidence action.  I go out very early to the beach, not the tourist beach but the dirty yukky muddy one in order to avoid idiots.  My Staffie is over friendly and loves all, but ignorant people are terrified of her so she is on a line most of the time and kept away from everyone, the Retriever I walk is a love monster .. again has to be kept away and my Lurcher is old and hates any dog jumping in his face or stuffing up his bottom, strangely other owners have a problem understanding this fact.

Devil Dog is on lead walk only with me.  he was out on another beach with DH - again before 9am, he had a run in too.

Blossom22, I walk a Staffie like that, she is great with people but afraid of other dogs, she is just on lead walks too, the bain of my life there are people with small fluffy dogs on extended leads who again have no concept it just 'might' be an idea not to let them in the Staffie's face ::)  I do try to cross the road, but not always possible.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: ellie on August 15, 2015, 12:20:10 PM
Our beautiful dog is a King Charles Spaniel, she is almost nine, but she sadly has the awful disease Syringomyelia, also a heart problem and problems with her back legs.....Of course We love her dearly, and thankfully she is insured....But I wish that people could be made to stop breeding the breed. I also wish I had done some research before we bought her.....
  She is on medication because with the disease she has they can have a lot of pain....
        If she starts to suffer a lot......well we will have to make that dreadful decision   :(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on August 15, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
Oh Ellie what a shame. I agree there are some awful people out there that think no further than how much money they can make and do not care about the breed at all.

My little Bichon had a fluxating patella and had to have surgery when she was about three. She was in such pain as her knee cap kept coming out of position. I actually learned how to get it back into place. It's a breed weakness that is now recognised.
She is now an old lady and her hearing is going, she has bladder issues and now has cataracts. We love her to bits but she seems to be a happy little soul.

As for staffies ....I am one of the scared ones as they have such a bad reputation. Three little dogs have been mauled to death on our local prom. Not bad dogs but shocking owners I think. It's little wonder people are scared of them.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: ellie on August 15, 2015, 12:53:16 PM
Honeybun, that is what is wrong with my girls back legs, the hospital where we took her to have her MRI scan suggested that we have both her legs operated on.....We have decided not to......it's just too much to put her through at her age.....I learnt how to put them back into position when she was a puppy, and then she seemed to grow out of it, otherwise we would have had the operation then.....but  not now, I couldn't do that to her.....
   The MRI scan cost £2-300 !good job she is insured, but isn't that outrageous .
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on August 15, 2015, 01:03:17 PM
I would not put an older dog through that. Our little one struggled as a young dog as its a bit of a brutal operation.. She could not cope with that now.

Being a vet is a licence to print money. I was at the vet this morning to get drops for her bladder. £20 for a little bottle.
We also have insurance but it's getting very expensive now.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on August 15, 2015, 01:52:13 PM
we have a lovely vet.  He is so committed to the animals and the money is secondary (it is his own practice).  Sometimes he does not even charge if a regular customer is struggling.  You can speak for advice on the phone at any time and if it is simple little thing he will not charge or will defer payment to make things easier.

He doesn't mark up a profit on preventative treatment like wormer, neutering etc.  He saved our dog's life when he was younger and I am forever grateful to this wonderful man.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: ellie on August 15, 2015, 03:41:38 PM
Wow babyjane you are lucky,that I am afraid is not typical of most vets :(.
   My girl was just put on a new treatment for her SM, and it's not a treatment that is used for dogs, it is in fact a drug called Pregabalin, the same tablet that I am on for nerve pain.....we had to get a private prescription from the vets and take it to the chemist.......60 tablets were £112 ......so good job we are insured!!!.....but isn't that shocking  :o
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on August 15, 2015, 04:28:15 PM
Totally. I just googled my girls bladder meds and its £8.60 online but I would have to ask for a prescription and I don't want to annoy my vet  ::)

We have just been weighing her because I think she is a little bit thin. I'm going to up her food a little....she will be delighted  ;D
Oh she is on a special diet too.....spoiled and expensive or what.

But they are so worth it.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on August 15, 2015, 06:19:58 PM
vets shouldn't mind giving you a prescription honeybun because they will make a charge for it anyway.

I get all my dog's supplements and digestive enzymes from Animed direct,  they don't charge delivery and have nearly everything I need.

when he had prescription meds when he was younger I always got a prescription and a year's supply online.  It saved me a lot of money.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on August 15, 2015, 06:24:00 PM
9 isn't old! unless you R in the Show Ring when any dog aged 7 or over is 'veteran'  >:(.  It depends on the breed as to whether operation is appropriate, also how 'young' the dog acts when not in pain.  I have met cockers that have lots of energy at age 11+ and 1 that was 5 and looked about 14  :'( - the owner admitted she only walked it for 20 mins a day  :o the dog was probably bored out of it's skull  :bang: :bang: :bang:


I think that Vets charge a prescription fee so that you can take it where you want.  What annoys me is that Vets. want to see the pet regularly before repeating the prescription and if the pet is over the age of 10/11, what's the point  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on August 15, 2015, 06:28:38 PM
sorry to bang on about my vet but he treats my little boy just the same now at 11+ as he did when he was young.  It is due to his care that my lad is as good as he is, in lovely condition and firing on all cylinders at the moment.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on August 15, 2015, 06:31:00 PM
So many Practices are businesses now.  Also technology that can be suggested to an owner plays on the 'guilt'  ::) ……. certainly when mine had chemo., without Insurance cover we couldn't have supported it (well I would have done  :-\ )
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: ellie on August 15, 2015, 06:39:14 PM
Nine isn't old but it is elderly in a Cavalier...Cockers and Springers are always much more energtic...I have been guided by my lovely lady vet, and she says that putting her through a big painful operation , would not be in her best interest.....She used to walk much further than she does now....on and off her lead on the fields near us.Now she dictates how far she wants to go, and has two walks a day.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on August 15, 2015, 06:39:28 PM
I know, we left one such practice and signed up with current vet only 4 weeks before our dog became seriously ill.  Stayed there ever since (9 years now)

ellie, she sounds lovely, just love her and look after her and be guided by her.  that is what we do with ours.  If he wants to run in the fields we run in the fields and if he wants 10 minutes round the block that is what we do  :)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on August 15, 2015, 06:45:54 PM
Depends on what you call elderly! age or general condition, add to that the Pedigree  ::) …..  Getting a Cavalier beyond 10 with all the inherent problems can be problematic - some Lines have heart problems (Blenheims usually) which the KC could have got rid of 20 years ago!!! the one I looked after for several years died without intervention aged 15 earlier this year. 

My cocker was 12 days off her 14th birthday. After aged 12 she would dictate how far we walked, what I didn't realise was that she had lymphoma and was really tired  :-\.  Also, if she could smell rain she would go back to bed  ;D

Our Labs. lived until 12, 14 and 15 in the 1960s.  It really does depend on the breeding, i.e. some boxer Lines have bone cancer in them  :'( and Bernese often don't live longer than 9. 

It makes a HUGE difference having a regular Vet who is knowledgeable, sympathetic and practical.  Ours shared problems within the Practice which was like getting a 2nd opinion without having to travel far or pay for it  ;).  Don't we just love 'em  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on August 15, 2015, 08:13:41 PM
My girl will be 13 in November. She has not slowed down yet, I keep waiting and will take my lead from her. She has never been a big long walker.....she is a Bichon, they don't do wet, oh or cold  ;D
She is happiest perched on the back of a chair looking out the window....and barking at people in hats  ;D


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on August 16, 2015, 09:01:09 AM
they are worth their weight in gold sparkle  :)

we had £2,000 paid out from our insurance over 18 months 9 years ago but then the premiums started to go up and last year the renewal was almost £60.  I did some research and made some calls and found a much more realistic policy with a reputable company.  They won't cover his pre existing condition but I have a savings account for that and, at the moment, he is very well.  It is still good to have partial insurance cover for vet fees and full cover for accident and third party.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: SadLynda on August 16, 2015, 10:54:00 AM
love reading about your dogs.

My staffie is on a line at all times now (were there are people) so she does not scare anyone, though she is white (and often pinky) all pink accessories aside from her green 'FRIENDLY' collar.  I dont think she looks mean at all but maybe I am biased.

We have a fabulous vet, he is just a hero.. done so much for us and is thoughtful with charges too.  Alas he was on holiday the other week when we had to take devil dog, as luck would have it we saw the 'main man' who has a thing for Labradors and they got on very well, he could see how 'confused' our boy is and said we had done a great job to get him as good as he is.

just put the old lurcher on glucosomine for his joints as his back legs are struggling, had the Labrador on it for about 6 months now as he has early arthritis too works well for him.

My first dog (as an adult) was a terrier mix, I had the luxating patella op on her twice, aged 9 and then 11.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on August 16, 2015, 12:44:13 PM
I will get shouted at here....but...I'm going to bring up the thorny subject of magnets.

My much loved Golden Retreiver was very stiff and sore in her back legs. I bought her a bio flow magnetic collar and she was a new dog. She walked differently and could run like a young thing.
I know a lot of people think it's a placebo effect but in my mind that is not possible in an animal.

Might be worth thinking about.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: SadLynda on August 16, 2015, 12:47:43 PM
shouted at? why?  any suggestion is good with me.

About a year back I met a couple with an older Greyhound, we got talking as I had my Lurcher with me at the time and he was telling me the dog was 15 and doing great on the bio flow collar.  I went home and told DH and he bought two one for the lurcher and one for the Labrador, the lurcher is no better.. now the Labrador might be, but as he has glucosomine too not sure which is doing the job so keep the collar on.  We tried them too and they did little for us.

I wonder if magnets are just good for some and not for others?

Always worth a try though.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on August 16, 2015, 01:04:03 PM
Oh I didn't mean you would shout at me.....it's just happened before....not that I give a toss to be honest.  ;D

Shame it didn't work. My nephews lab is doing well on his. I give my girl a cod liver oil everyday. She loves crunching it up....yuk...but I think it helps with her joint health. I get them from the chemist though as they are a quarter of the price.


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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on August 16, 2015, 01:19:40 PM
my little boy wears a bio flow for 4 months now and his movement was more fluid immediately.  His holiday minder uses bio flow for her horses and she wouldn't have anything to do with something that is not effective.

He now has K laser therapy and cartrophen injections as well as glucosamine as he cannot have oral pain medication.  With this combination he is firing on all cylinders and people are amazed at his age when they see him running round in the fields.  I notice the difference if I take his collar off for grooming and forget to put it back on  :)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Scampi on August 17, 2015, 11:14:42 AM
On the subject of complementary treatment of animals, my parents' border collie was given a homeopathic treatment for sensitive skin many years ago, at the suggestion of the vet.  As Honeybun said, I can't see how the placebo effect can work on animals, so it was interesting to see how much the homeopathy helped Deefa.  If a treatment/magnetic collar/whatever works, and has no nasty side-effects, I see no problem  :)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: ellie on August 17, 2015, 11:59:26 AM
Very tempted to get a Bio collar for my girl, but I wonder if it would affect the medication she is on........I wonder if my vet would advise.....
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on August 17, 2015, 12:00:56 PM
a good vet shouldn't have a problem with it.  And  you have 90 days to try the collar and return it if it doesn't help  :).
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: ellie on August 17, 2015, 12:07:13 PM
Can I ask where you bought it from please....
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on August 17, 2015, 12:07:53 PM
Magnetic therapy was used to aid un-united fractures ………. [Swansea Uni.]
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: honeybun on August 17, 2015, 12:29:16 PM
Some pet shops have them but I'm pretty sure if you Google them you can buy online. Measure your dog's neck carefully as the magnets have to be I contact with skin so the fit had to be snug.

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Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on August 17, 2015, 12:32:16 PM
Try PetsATHome web-site first, you can take your dog for a fitting if they sell them  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on August 18, 2015, 05:05:42 PM
I will keep my fingers crossed ellie.  We noticed a difference within a few days but it seems to have a cumulative effect and the longer ours wears it the better he seems to be.  He also has laser therapy on  his back. 

We were with friends today who hadn't seen him for 3 months and they commented on the difference in him, they said even his eyes are brighter because he is not in so much discomfort.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: ellie on August 18, 2015, 05:15:08 PM
Babyjane do you leave the collar on all day?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on August 18, 2015, 05:20:07 PM
I leave it on 24/7 ellie.  When it was really really hot a few weeks back I took it off at night because he was scratching his neck with the heat, but he wasn't moving so easily as when it is on all the time.

He never used to wear a collar in the house before but he adjusted to it very quickly.  It is quite light.  Just make sure the magnet is positioned towards the front of the neck and that it is fairly snug fitting without being tight. It had a metal D ring to attach an ID tag.

I think the effects depend on how bad your dog has been and for how long but good luck I hope you are not disappointed with it. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: ellie on August 18, 2015, 05:29:25 PM
Thanks babyjane  :)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on September 29, 2015, 07:31:49 PM
We have a cockerpoo next door and my friend who lives 10 miles away has one; on Friday morning we saw 5 playing together from different families  :-* ……
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on January 27, 2016, 03:35:34 PM
Social media inspires search for dog missing after fatal car accident - in Cornwall!  FOUND  :bounce:

Sadly, a border terrier escaped from 'care' whilst his owners were on holiday  :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: SadLynda on January 28, 2016, 04:11:18 PM
saw that on FB, so glad the dog was found.  Too many sad stories around :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on January 28, 2016, 04:37:45 PM
Haven't heard about the border terrier  :-\ ……… it upsets me more than anything when a pet is lost  :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on February 02, 2016, 04:47:51 PM
No owner should allow their dog to jump on visitors nor do the licking bit. 

You could arrange to meet friends elsewhere or be blunt, saying you will visit if they are shut up.  Ours was allowed to meet visitors then had to go on her bed.  I knew people who didn't like dogs anyway.  If they don't take the hint then carry a stair gate with you  ;D …….  licking isn't hygienic, knowing where dogs put their noses at times  :-X ….. be blunt, tell them that you wish to wash your hands before you have a cuppa and biscuit.  Unless they are particular dense, they will have no problems with your request.  Otherwise, don't waste your time on dense people?

When I took her visiting as a PAT-dog one resident said "I don't like dogs, don't let it near me!" so we knew to avoid going too close. 

Some people are allergic to pet dander which brings them out in a rash or asthma symptoms. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on February 02, 2016, 05:46:55 PM
People who come to our house know it is our dog's home too. If they are receptive he is allowed to greet them but must then leave them alone. We don't really know people who dislike dogs but family members who are not keen he is kept away from. He certainly wouldn't lick anyone unless they wanted him to.
Anyone who comes to our home we respect their feelings but they must respect our home and that means accepting the dog lives here too  :)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: limpy on February 02, 2016, 06:20:15 PM

Is it hygienic to eat after a dog has licked your hands to death.

No.
I assume we are talking about the victim of the hand licking.........................
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on February 02, 2016, 07:02:09 PM
you are correct stellajane and it is not the dog's fault as they are not born house trained, they have to be taught and the responsibility is down to the owner.
I spent 6 weeks with mine at a training class when we got him and then carried on the training myself once I had learned what to do.  It was hard work and a lot of effort but I stuck with it and as a result we have always been able to take him anywhere and anyone can enter our house once we let them in.  There is no excuse for not training a dog to be sociable and well mannered and I am sorry you have come across some who have not been
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on February 03, 2016, 02:07:50 PM
How 'friends' are these people to you?  If I don't like something I ring ahead first.  Whilst this is our home if anyone really doesn't like dogs then she was kept in the kitchen. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: getting_old on February 05, 2016, 05:34:44 PM
I take the view of it's the dog's home too so if you don't like him, don't come. If you want to meet up we can go elsewhere, but I'm not locking him away to keep a visitor happy. I like my dog way more than I like any of the people I know! That said he doesn't jump up on visitors, although he will lie in front of them wagging madly and hoping they'll make a fuss of him.
Oh, and if someone was allergic I'd meet them elsewhere - no point them visiting and me keeping him out of the way as there could still be fur / dander in the air that could affect them.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Ohgoodnessme on February 06, 2016, 10:01:27 AM
Our dog is very excitable and loves people. Luckily our friends are dog lovers and most have dogs of their own. If we have visitors, ours stays in her bed until they are in and settled. She will go up and say hello and then wander off to find a chew or something.  The only person to visit who, despite previously owning one, doesn't like dogs is my FIL. We make sure she stays away from him. Although she sees it as her mission in life to win him over!


I like my dog way more than I like any of the people I know!
My husband would say that this is so me ^ ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Kate50 on February 06, 2016, 10:34:41 AM
Lol this makes funny reading.  My daughter who has our rescue staff cos she pinched him and he is the loveliest dog ever says not only does he keep the friends she doesn't really like away but the ones with kids cos their parents are all scared of staffies!
My other dog is my exercise machine every morning he saves me from myself that morning walk had kept me going through menopause and I meet plenty of other ladies going through the same thing as me and it's a great social tool!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on February 06, 2016, 01:28:00 PM
I told friends/neighbours when we first had pets that should our house become catty or later on, doggy, to please let me know! as I have allergies which affect my sense of smell  ::). 

All the people we know were aware that we owned pets.  Because they were people I worked with or had pets themselves.  There was 1 occasion when a Chinese man visited to bring me some work: as he walked into the lounge I said 'bed' in a loud voice, which was actually aimed at the dog who dutifully did as she was told: however  ;D ……… 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on February 06, 2016, 02:32:34 PM
I always clean through and change the sofa covers when visitors are due.  We don't get people just 'dropping in' as our family all know I can't cope with the unexpected.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: getting_old on February 06, 2016, 03:12:04 PM
But do you warn people you have a dog so they can make a choice ... or don't you ever invite people round?

My friends all know I have a dog, and most of them have dogs or other pets, and I do mention it to people I don't know that we have a dog. The biggest problem I have with visitors is that they encourage the dog to jump up on them which wrecks all of our training!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on February 06, 2016, 05:03:14 PM
When ours was young I would keep her on a lead when visitors arrived - so that she didn't jump up.  To stop that habit I carried dried dog food in my pocket so that on re-entering the house, the food was thrown on to the floor. 

The reason they jump up is because the bitch regurgitates food collected for the pups in the next, this is stimulated by the puppies rubbing round the bitch's mouth …… so a dog isn't saying "I love you" but "Feed me now"  ;). 

After 3-4 weeks of throwing the food onto the hall floor ours got the idea that food was down there and not around my mouth.

Also, when going out 'dressed up' she knew to go to bed when told, no rubbing round nor jumping up.  The cats however  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 02, 2016, 04:40:49 PM
Sadly a Police dog mauled a Yorkshire Terrier which received 2 spinal fractures and had to be PTS.  Apparently the Handler was unaware that a member of the public and a dog were in the area where the dog was being exercised.

Had this been a Staffie-type  >:( ……..but a Statement has been issued "Whilst this is a sad and unfortunate incident, no one is to blame"  :bang: :bang: :bang:

Under the Dangerous Dogs Act this would be a 'dog out of control in a public place' …….. does the Public have to accept that, because the Yorkie was injured by a Police Dog, that's the end of it! ?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Kate50 on March 02, 2016, 06:55:01 PM
I should think there might be some suing going on for this. If that was my dog which of one is a staffy I'm sure it would be a different story and also if it was any other breed. I agree with a dog getting spooked and reacting cos this was actually at night. But this was a trained dog being exercised in a public area in the dark?  That can't be right? ?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 02, 2016, 08:59:44 PM
Wonder whether the Press will follow this through  :-\

Apparently a 'pit bull type' has been kept in solitary confinement by a Police Force for 2 years awaiting for a Court decision.  The Police were advised to shove the food into the kennel and it's never been walked  :'( - wonder who got to clean it out etc.?  RSPCA have had their knuckles wrapped too about host hey deal with taking pets away from the public …..

Our local Police man didn't know the difference between a cocker and a springer  >:(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Kate50 on March 03, 2016, 10:19:53 PM
Just realised this is in my county.  The police officer was suspended from duty today.  My DH who works with the police said that police dogs have a dangerous dogs licence so the police officer should not have had him off lead.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 04, 2016, 05:10:58 PM
What's a Dangerous Dogs Licence exactly  :-\

Dog out of control in a public place - end of.  No doubt there's a lot of upset all round and police dogs are never to be completely trusted.  Years ago on retirement they would be PTS. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 04, 2016, 08:41:36 PM
 :welcomemm:  ………. Tiggergirl - what breeds are the dogs that require rehoming?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 06, 2016, 11:32:59 AM
Are they kept in a kennel until re-homed?  For those dogs which were likely to run away or the 1 that was deaf, I 'ran' on a pony leading rain from the horse supplies place: 11 feet of very strong webbing with a very strong catch for the collar.  Worked really well!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Pennyfarthing on March 06, 2016, 11:56:22 AM
We've been lucky with all dogs we've had.  We had a springer spaniel, a Dalmatian cross, a Yorkshire terrier (rescue), a Yorkshire terrier X and currently have a Border Terrier X. 

Our current dog is nearly 17 and very frail and we have decided he will be our last. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on March 06, 2016, 03:52:28 PM
What! no TVs  ;D - some kennels have links so that owners can log on to see what their dogs are up to  ::).  It's hard work, ain't it!!!!

Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on April 04, 2016, 05:18:12 PM
Microchipping becomes a legal requirement this week.  However, according to the National Press at the weekend it has been suggested that owners of very old dogs can get an exemption cert. from their regular Vet..  Worth asking if your dog is elderly.

The problem is: unless puppies are done before they are sold from Breeders: and the same Vet. (above) was suggesting that puppies and small toy breeds have died because they have been chipped 'too early' : there will be no come-back on Breeders.  I suspect that the pups died because the chip was inserted at the same time as their first inoculations! I await with interest more information but doubt if the Press will follow up.  Also, many owners don't bother to register their new details when they move, it's way down on the List of things to do.  It costs money to re-register.  Many people won't want to pay out.  Chips have been known to migrate ………..

My view on it has always been that Breeders should be responsible so that the pup/dog can be traced back to them, they will, if responsible, hold paper work as to where and when the pups were sold.  That way a found dog can go back to the Breeder who can then contact who they sold it to. 

I think that this will run and run ……. it's a money spinner for someone  ::).  Working dogs don't have to have a chip and I would have thought that they were more likely to go astray as pets  ::)!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 05, 2016, 06:47:15 PM
It's all happening around here  :sigh:

People 'down' the estate had a new pup in April, now the direct neighbours who are renting have a new pup [Monday] which they imported from TURKEY  >:(.  For goodness sake, there are enough dogs handed into rescue in the UK every day  :'(.

I think this importing of dogs from abroad should be stopped, I never agreed with Pet Passports.  There are several mites etc. being brought in which are causing fatalities because Vet's don't recognise the signs  :-\
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: getting_old on June 05, 2016, 08:27:30 PM
Were they living in Turkey CLKD? If so, they may have had the dog with them for some time before they moved, and wanted to bring it with them. I know some people do leave dogs with friends or family if they move country or if their circumstances change but I could never leave mine unless I absolutely had to.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 05, 2016, 08:28:36 PM
Nope.  As far as I know they have never been to Turkey  :-\ - they say that the dog needed 're-homing' ….. on a web-site.  It looks like an AlsationX ……. with a brindle coat …….
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: SadLynda on June 06, 2016, 09:15:59 AM
one of the other dog walkers round me adopted from abroad, lovely young pup - 'claimed' to have had all health injections too, but had not, the pup died of dystemper (sp?) within a few weeks.

Afraid I agree, our rescue centres are full to capacity in the uk, and there are many a healthy dog PTS due to lack of space.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 06, 2016, 11:04:39 AM
Problem here appears to be that the Companies that run rescue centres are picky about where they re-home!!! they like to inform the public that they take in 1,000s of dogs/cats annually but it is hard to get re-homing figures!  They also want lots of money these days  :-\

If that pup barks once more  :bang:  I will find someone who speaks Turkish to tell it to STOP!  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: babyjane on June 06, 2016, 06:05:53 PM
only one barking pup CLKD?

in the immediate vicinity to our house (not counting our dog) there are 20 dogs, most of whom are under excellent control but when one starts they all start up and ours joins in.  :scottie:
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: walking the dog on June 06, 2016, 06:22:17 PM
My two are the same babyjane and I'm looking after a friends dog two weeks n August , I'm a cat fan how do I get into these situations  :)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Scampi on June 07, 2016, 12:54:45 PM
There's quite a few dogs around us, so you often hear a bark or two.  None of them have ever seemed to set our JRT off barking (thank goodness - how so much volume can come out of such a small bundle of furry brainlessness is beyond me!!) ... but next-door-but-one recently got a little yappy 'thing' (not sure what it is - very furry, very short legs, short face - big mouth!!!) and it often barks in the garden (they don't always try to stop it  >:() - it sets Bob off barking, so I have to bring her in as I cannot bear the thought of my dog annoying people.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 07, 2016, 12:56:23 PM
This Forum was SO slow last night that I typed a reply and it didn't 'take'.

This was something like it: many years ago it was a hot Summer and our bedroom windows were open.  I could hear from miles away, dogs barking and could follow the dogs along the fields and into the Estate as they passed 'messages' on - the neighbour's dog barked, mine kind of in her sleep, the messages went along the Estate and out the other end  ::)

The Turkish dog is barking a lot, I think she wants her new owners to play with her  ::) but the lad (17-ish) keeps telling her to be quiet  >:(.  I went to the fence and spoke to her a few moments ago and he was in the yard, out of sight [naked maybe  ??? ] and talked at me rather than being sociable.   :bang:  I don't know who will look after it once they are all back at School/College as the parents work 'odd' hours  :-\
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 07, 2016, 03:06:42 PM
However: it is the owner's property not the dog's, the dog is the visitor. Therefore there is no need for a dog to be protective = no barking!

Our JR was taught to bark on command - if anyone approached that we didn't like the look of she would let rip! then she would go in with the teeth  :o
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: Cazikins on June 07, 2016, 11:32:27 PM
Well my Jack Russell barks at a leaf rustling in the garden  ;D ;D. She seems to go deaf at my trying to control her, however a squirt of water helps.

However: it is the owner's property not the dog's, the dog is the visitor. Therefore there is no need for a dog to be protective = no barking!
But the dog doesn't know that CLKD  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 08, 2016, 10:08:59 PM
So train it!

Apparently the 1 next door is from Bulgaria via Amersham ………..  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds
Post by: CLKD on June 15, 2016, 06:01:46 PM
Dog owners are being urged to take extra precautions when out walking their pets this summer to help combat the deadly disease, Alabama Rot.


Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: Dorothy on June 15, 2016, 09:44:10 PM
The problem is that they don't really know what causes it to spread.  They say avoid woodland and wash your dogs' paws after their walks, but then admit they don't really know if this will make any difference.

I am so worried about my furbaby.  A couple of weeks ago, a dog living 5 miles away died, and this week, one just two miles down the road died, so it's coming really close now.  I won't walk her outside the village now, but that won't help if other dogs are bringing in the disease or if it is being transmitted by wildlife and no one knows.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: CLKD on June 16, 2016, 01:52:46 PM
Crikey!  Maybe a 'safe exercise' area is required, i.e. like horses have access to a menage?  A niche in the market!

It could be air borne.  Maybe lots of play at home?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: CLKD on July 16, 2016, 06:21:00 PM
WtD - why do you allow your older dog to bark in your face?  Buy a crate and confine him? It's never too late to begin training, after all if you got a 'rescue' older dog would you put up with it  ::).

They need boundaries.  Maybe spend some time every day - if you have a crate you can train each individually.  Plus when the pup arrives ………..  :-\  remind me, what are they?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: CLKD on September 03, 2016, 04:20:30 PM
Apparently owners are being advised to look for ticks on a daily basis.  My dogs had light coats so I could see the critters running through against the skin B4 they took a bite ……… if they filled up then I could feel them when grooming and appropriate methods of removal were used.

Vets of course are suggesting various chemical interventions ………..
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: CLKD on November 18, 2016, 03:00:38 PM
"Nunney and Wilcock were given 20-week suspended prison sentences and banned from keeping dogs for life. "

That's for running a Puppy Farm.  Leaving dead puppies in a wheelbarrow, even when they weren't quite dead.   :'(  Keeping pups without food/water and in squalid conditions.  People who bought from them complained that their pups were ill or dying to the RSPCA who brought the Prosecution. Where was the LA who offers the Licence ? ! ? probably this couple didn't have one. 

Hanging would be too good for this couple.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: CLKD on January 13, 2017, 03:44:15 PM
I heard a sad, sickening story this week.  A greyhound, aged about 14 months old, was locked into a skip on C.mas Eve and left to die.  :'(  Not microchipped so that's one illegality, however, the owner who races other dogs, was never checked.  So the Officials at the various race circuits where dogs are pitted against each other, had never passed a scanner over the greyhounds  >:(. 

Fortunately a person late on C.mas Eve heard the dog crying and called the Police, local Rescue wouldn't take it in so a person involved with Greyhound Rescue on the Northants/Oxfordshire Border, drove over-night to Middlesborough to bring her home.  Apparently she belly surfs down the stairs  ;D

His other dogs have been removed and he awaits Prosecution.  The whole racing industry appears to be more curroupt than ever!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: babyjane on January 13, 2017, 07:02:42 PM
please don't post these things CLKD, we know they happen but don't want our noses rubbed in it, it is too much to bear.  Once I have read the post the image is in my head and stays there for quite a while.  I am not going to visit this thread again to preserve my emotional well being  :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: CLKD on January 13, 2017, 08:44:05 PM
I'm the same.  It hurts me deeply to think that with other resources, that someone could do anything hurtful ........  :'(.  Apparently she's an absolute delight despite what happened on C.mas Eve.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: Greyhoundgal on January 16, 2017, 01:49:37 PM
At 14 months she wouldn't have raced yet hence no-one noticing the lack of chip.  Glad she got rescued though and hopefully by now she has found her "forever" sofa somewhere  :)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: CLKD on January 16, 2017, 03:21:37 PM
She was being 'trialled' ......... many years ago I worked closely with the local Dog Warden who had trained 'up North' and whippets were the common pick up then. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: CLKD on March 08, 2017, 11:08:24 PM
Hero rottweiler saves owner's life after opening door for paramedics at Lowestoft home

She looks so pleased showing off how to open the door  :)  :-*
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: CLKD on March 12, 2017, 11:43:34 PM
I've seen it all now  >:(  -  an American Cocker Spaniel wins Crufts having been placed 1st in the gun-dog section yesterday.  Well Americans were never bred as gun dogs  :( with all that hair  :-\ .......... it's hard enough keeping a working cocker (which won't carry the same coat as show dogs) clean ..........

I have never heard of an American working at Trials either, certainly not in the UK.  Clumbers have been reintroduced to some types of working Trials but can't go in for the larger competitions as there is no longer a specification  ::).
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: Taz2 on March 13, 2017, 09:08:50 PM
Another case of Alabama Rot confirmed in Dorset. Such a horrible disease.

Taz x  :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: CLKD on March 13, 2017, 11:08:20 PM
Could it have been brought in by dogs having Passports.  !?!  >:(.  ! -  we were told years ago to look out for rabies hence Quarantine and of course, Crufts has taken place last week and who knows what comes over in those crates/blankets/paws etc., it may be transported physically. 

It seems to be contained in mud, e.Coli.  .........   probably a Thesis there if someone could get funding.  So sad for the owners/Vets.   Distemper was the killer when I was young >sigh< which is why I was never allowed a dog.

Having read more about the Best in Show from Sunday, it seems it is at least a UK-bred ACocker - the Company breeds Standard and mini-poodles, pugs, as well as ACS.  However, there is no way that any dog carrying such a 'coat' would work in the field  ::). It wouldn't be practical from many points.  Imagine taking lots of them for a walk and how much grooming would be necessary after  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and fatal disease warning
Post by: CLKD on May 16, 2017, 10:30:08 AM
 :bounce:
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat!
Post by: CLKD on May 17, 2017, 04:00:40 PM
Omar, perhaps world's longest cat, finds internet fame ........ crikey!  That's one large cat  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat!
Post by: Greyhoundgal on May 18, 2017, 12:23:54 PM
Omar, perhaps world's longest cat, finds internet fame ........ crikey!  That's one large cat  ;D
I saw that on the BBC News website - what a wopper he was but absolutely gorgeous  :)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat! (as well as fatal Alabama Rot warning)
Post by: CLKD on May 18, 2017, 04:16:20 PM
Eats dried food in the mornings followed by kangaroo meat for supper - at that size he probably catches his own  ::).  A friend is thinking of buying one  :o - we have several Ragdolls locally ........
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat!
Post by: CLKD on July 07, 2017, 05:56:02 PM
Skateboarding Staffordshire bull terrier aims to improve breed's image - this makes for happy viewing  :)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat! (as well as fatal Alabama Rot warning)
Post by: Cazikins on July 07, 2017, 08:37:34 PM
What this one CLKD?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-essex-40530620/skateboarding-staffordshire-bull-terrier-aims-to-improve-breed-s-image

I love Staffies.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat! (as well as fatal Alabama Rot warning)
Post by: Mbrown001 on July 07, 2017, 08:51:37 PM
I'm wary of Staffies.

I know that's my problem and not theirs but most of that kind of dog seems to be on the end of a very dubious looking youths arm.

There have been a couple of pets attacked in a town near us by that kind of breed.

Until they stop being the dog of choice for certain people the reputation they have won't improve.

I like cuddly dogs. I've got a very very old Bichon who is such a little pet....she still loves a snuggle despite having sore bones. I know we are on borrowed time with her and she is being spoiled now. Anything that she wants or needs she gets....from a memory foam bed to special old lady, delicate tummy food.
Daft....who me  ::)


Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat!
Post by: CLKD on July 08, 2017, 12:22:00 PM
Yep Cazikins, what'd you think?

I understand where you are coming MrsB from which is why I always approach 'yobs' with Staffies  ;D - I've never met a bad one yet, they are known as 'nanny dogs' because they love kids (although I haven't found one yet that can eat a whole one ;-) ).  I always ask "How many were in the litter?" and "were the parents this colour and what mix were the pups?" which opens up good conversations.  The only breed I tend to avoid are collies  ;D as they are known to nip from behind  :o  :D.  One day ....... but so far not yet although I came across a Cross Cat one afternoon which really shouldn't have been out in public  >:(! 

The last Staff I cuddled into was 'blue', 16 weeks old and part of a large family who already owned a white Staff ....... they can be 'off' with other dogs but they were bred as bull baiting dogs so can be a bit 'sharp'!  If ever you see a woman of a certain age approaching a dog of un-certain character, it'll be me  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat! (as well as fatal Alabama Rot warning)
Post by: Cazikins on July 08, 2017, 11:02:49 PM
Yes they are excellent with children CLKD. My niece had one & she has 2 youngsters & the dog loved them both.

My thought is that ANY dog is capable of aggressive behavior if it is in certain circumstances, no matter what the breed or size.
Unfortunately Staffies do end up with some iffy characters that give them a bad reputation.

My in laws have had 2 in the past & they were wonderful adoring pets.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat! (as well as fatal Alabama Rot warning)
Post by: CaroleM on July 15, 2017, 02:53:29 PM
Wow, what a pussy cat x 2!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat!
Post by: CLKD on July 15, 2017, 03:48:51 PM
Yep.  Fancy that on the end of the bed  ???
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat! (as well as fatal Alabama Rot warning)
Post by: Cazikins on July 15, 2017, 04:33:43 PM
Wow, what a pussy cat x 2!

What pussy cat is that then CaroleM?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat! Maine Coon
Post by: CLKD on July 15, 2017, 04:35:29 PM
If you do a search for Omar + Very Large Cat  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat! (as well as fatal Alabama Rot warning)
Post by: Cazikins on July 15, 2017, 04:37:58 PM
Crikey that is a big ginger pussy  ;D ;D I thought for a moment we were talking about my Fanny.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat!
Post by: CLKD on July 15, 2017, 04:44:03 PM
 :o  :madeyes:   ............ doubt if it would survive in the 'wild'  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat! (as well as fatal Alabama Rot warning)
Post by: CaroleM on July 15, 2017, 05:14:27 PM
No need for a duvet!  My 4 normal sized cats think that I am their hot water bottle.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and chocolate warning
Post by: CLKD on September 27, 2017, 06:10:39 PM
Dogs fall ill after eating shop's chocolate freebie - posted through the letter box as part of a reward prize!   Be aware!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat!
Post by: CLKD on October 20, 2017, 02:35:26 PM
 :bounce:  I am surrounded by a cocker-poo, a Vizla, a collie/kelpie X, 2 westies, a very old Lab..    3 cats  ::) -  none of them mine!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and That Cat! (as well as fatal Alabama Rot warning)
Post by: CLKD on December 06, 2017, 05:45:12 PM
RSPCA: The court heard Ms Adams was found to be breeding Irish wolfhounds in conditions RSPCA officers were not happy with and she was banned from keeping animals for five years.

She breached that court order and was given a six-week suspended prison sentence plus a 10-year ban which she breached again.  Now she has fled, probably to Southern Ireland.

So avoid any adverts regarding Irish Wolfhounds bred by this woman.

Title: Re: Dog Breeds and beach warning
Post by: CLKD on January 03, 2018, 04:45:21 PM
Dogs taken ill and/or DYING on Norfolk beaches - thought to have eaten fish washed up though there are musscles, clams, marine creatures from abroad ............ Vets don't yet know what the toxins might be so do keep dogs on leads!  1 Goldie died within 30 mins. of eating what ever it was that has the toxins.  :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds - Theft from Bicester
Post by: CLKD on January 27, 2018, 04:55:21 PM
A DOG owner has offered a reward after his 'soulmate' was taken from a farm in Oxfordshire.

Taken from a farm near Bicester on Wed., please post on.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds on TV 29 Jan.
Post by: CLKD on December 03, 2018, 08:05:51 PM
This one ;-)

ITV 7.30 until 10.00 p.m. - my beloved Sealyhams will be on  8)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds - TV tonight and pedigree
Post by: CLKD on January 29, 2019, 02:08:45 PM
My dear bitch was pts Feb 2002.  I have since found several copies of Pedigrees with her ancestors, last week I picked up a book about cockers, in which is a detail of her Gt Gt Grandad who I believed was born in Oz.  According to another web-site however, he is listed as UK born, 1974.  Now confused  ::) so I have sent an PM to the current breeder of her 'line'.

Apparently her Gt Gt Grandad carried a fatal gene for kidney disease but she didn't have that, fortunately.  Once the owner of him realised he was withdrawn from Stud.

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: CLKD on March 10, 2019, 10:59:03 AM
I haven't watched Crufts. Couldn't bear to listen to any perceived problems that Brexit might bring  ::)

Though a comment elsewhere here brought back a memory: of my little  :catscratch: watched the corps de ballet 'Cygnets' dancing across the screen from left to right, when they disappeared off right she went behind the TV to see where they had disappeared to  ;D  :-*

I have seen the back end of a Leonberger and a large Landseer today  :)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jillydoll on March 10, 2019, 01:34:06 PM
Apart from the dogs, I like Noel Fitzpatrick. Such a genius.
Nice person as well as a brilliant vet....
In another life...maybe......Mmmm
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: Countrygirl on March 10, 2019, 01:38:57 PM
I've always had and have labs and golden retrievers and a very overworked Hoover 😂😂 x
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jillydoll on March 10, 2019, 01:50:39 PM
Love those dogs soooo much, Countrygirl...Both of them.....
I know the hoover is worth it's weight in gold isn't it?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jaypo on March 10, 2019, 02:37:05 PM
Love retrievers,they always look so happy.
Noel Fitzpatrick is brilliant,although sometimes it's hard to watch and I end up blubbing 😢😭
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jillydoll on March 10, 2019, 03:17:48 PM
I love, retrievers too, and yellow labs.....
We always had Rottweilers , in the days of no tails , but now OH wouldn't have one because of that, also, he thinks they're over bred now. And not the same, as they were in the days of ‘omen' film.....
Remember those in that film? They were lovely.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: Dierdre on March 10, 2019, 03:20:42 PM
The only pedigree I had was a Dalmation for my 10th birthday, all our other dogs have been mongrels (Heinz 57)  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jillydoll on March 10, 2019, 03:23:16 PM
My parents only ever had mongrels too. They lived till they were 13/14 . That's a lot longer than any pedigree dog I've ever owned, unfortunately.....😢😢
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jaypo on March 10, 2019, 03:28:31 PM
The 57 varieties were supposed to be the hardiest.my mums one lived til she was nearly 17
I've had two boxers,one brindle & one white,three King Charles cavaliers,two tri colour and one ruby,German shepherd,black & two poochis (chihuahua x poodle)😊
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jillydoll on March 10, 2019, 04:36:43 PM
I've always wanted a couple of dogs at the same time, but OH wouldn't be able to cope with it.....😃
Having one is hard enough for him... he loves dogs, don't get me wrong, but can't cope when they get ill..  and would worry far too much if one died and the other one pined for it.... that would see him over the edge....so one it's always been for us...🙂
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jaypo on March 10, 2019, 04:40:20 PM
Not sure I could cope with two large breeds,especially if they're hard work,your dog is beautiful Jill but could you have two of them?😳
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jillydoll on March 10, 2019, 04:45:54 PM
I could! Lol.  😂😂
But I'm not generally a stress head like him....(apart from when I get meno symptoms of course.) it wouldn't bother me, I don't think anyway.
Someone around here somewhere, walks four of them, at the same time!
Black n white they are,... now four,......no, I'm not that crazy....lol
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jaypo on March 10, 2019, 04:48:06 PM
You'd have your blower on permanently 😂
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jillydoll on March 10, 2019, 04:51:32 PM
Yeah,😂😂 hoover, too...
Far too much.....

I've broke the blower, pulled it too much, 😂😂 out in the garden...😗😗😗

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jaypo on March 10, 2019, 04:53:03 PM
Omg,nearly choked on me tea 😂🤣 that's what happens if you pull it too hard 😳
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jillydoll on March 10, 2019, 05:03:17 PM
But the lead is very bendy, but still, it popped out, and I had to use glue to stick it back together....😂🤣😂🤣

Now it's got a whistling sound, ...........hahaha.....whistleblower!!!!  😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jaypo on March 10, 2019, 05:10:23 PM
Will drive you insane 😂
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jillydoll on March 10, 2019, 05:28:49 PM
Drive me?
I am insane.....🤪🤪😜😜🤪🤪🤪🤪🤡🤡🤡
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: CLKD on March 10, 2019, 05:51:40 PM
A well trained dog doesn't need a lead  ;).  Hand signals and quiet words.  Except terriers that go their own way  :D

Apparently the larger dogs don't take instruction: they don't really need to, do they  ;D : Your Point Is  :D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: CLKD on March 10, 2019, 07:59:24 PM
Our JRs lived until almost 14 years old. Despite being fiesty and taking on anything bigger than themselves  ;D ! The working labs. until 12 and 13.  Cocker was 11 days off her 14th birthday. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: CLKD on March 10, 2019, 09:15:09 PM
What won Crufts ?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jaypo on March 10, 2019, 09:23:45 PM
A papillon
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: CLKD on March 10, 2019, 09:24:49 PM
 :thankyou:    Oh how lovely.  Wonder why though  :-\  ::)

Now they will become popular, look out Rescue Centres  :'(

Called Papillon due to their butterfly shaped ears. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jaypo on March 10, 2019, 09:27:39 PM
Was very cute,think I might have opted for the boxer though
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: Countrygirl on March 11, 2019, 07:34:05 AM
I just read your comment jaypo and thought why did a butterfly win crufts 😂 think I need my coffee a tad quick 😉 and google to see what it looks like as have no idea x
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: jaypo on March 11, 2019, 08:52:33 AM
I just read your comment jaypo and thought why did a butterfly win crufts 😂 think I need my coffee a tad quick 😉 and google to see what it looks like as have no idea x
😂😆 yes caffeine QUICKLY!!!!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: CLKD on March 11, 2019, 10:30:38 AM
Which of course, all breeds are: basically wolf genetically modified to fit in with human requirements.

Papillon from France: I believe as lap dogs.  Similar to the Temple Dogs i.e. shitzhu, Tibetan terries [which have no terrier in them], pekenise ...... kept in muffs they would growl and bark to protect their owners ..... bit of a shock that  ;D : go to give someone a kiss and WOOFFFF  :D

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: Two hoots on March 11, 2019, 11:07:49 AM
I had a dog when I was a child, he was a corgi/poodle cross, a mutt back then but very trendy now  ::)
He was a lovely dog, he was pretty to look at, corgi size but black and curly. He had a lovely temperament, didn't ever do anything naughty apart from chewing shoes when he was a pup. I was so upset when he died I've never wanted another dog, the trouble is my better half has never had any pet, no dog, cat, rabbit, bird or goldfish  :o and he wants a dog  :-\

When crufts is on it's like looking at a menu of the breeds he'd like  ;D the dog that was runner up is top of his list, I must admit it was a lovely dog, his tail didn't stop wagging  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: CLKD on March 11, 2019, 12:18:39 PM
Which was?

My current choice would be: whippet; Sealyham terrier x 2; love dachshunds but they have problems with their spines  :'(.  I've done the shedding types, cockers and other gun dogs  ::) as well as the MUD  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: Two hoots on March 11, 2019, 12:25:45 PM
Ahem runner was a Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen  ;D we decided if we got one it would be called Griff  ;)

We are not getting a dog, but that doesn't stop him pointing out the breeds he'd like  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: CLKD on March 11, 2019, 12:42:28 PM
Wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.  They run.  OFF.  Don't come home.  Bit like Afghans ......... off and away  ;D which in countryside with live-stock can be tragic  :'(  :'(

We have a breeder of Griffons locally - out of 12 she is able to let one off as he will return, probably 'cos she's got Girls with her  :D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: Two hoots on March 11, 2019, 01:34:24 PM
A few weeks ago the local newspaper was reporting a story of a puppy that was taken to a woodland for a run about, but went missing, a policeman heard about it because the puppy was owned by a child with autism if I remember correctly. Anyway the policeman was told the colour and model of a car seen nearby, he tracked down the car in his own time with the help of Cctv cameras in the area. The car had travelled from near Swansea to Surrey  :-\  luckily the dog was returned to his owner. 

I bet the people who took the puppy didn't expect to be traced and I hope the policeman gets an award for doing it in his own time.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc
Post by: CLKD on March 11, 2019, 02:26:59 PM
I read that too and thought the Officer should get a Medal ........ I do worry about children with 'needs' having pets, how to explain what happens when the dog needs putting to sleep  :-\
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and feeding for health
Post by: CLKD on March 14, 2019, 05:18:07 PM
Raw feeding is the way to go.  Get the butcher to chop meat into lb lots.  Bagged up and frozen.  Mince some of it.  Beef and possibly lamb but never pork.  Chicken wings are soft enough because birds don't get to live until their bones are hard.  It is important to remember to take it out of the freezer 'in time'. 

My friend feeds his whippet/lurchers raw.  With liquidised mixed fruits and veg. poured over twice a week plus minerals that he buys from his Vet..   When he first had dogs he fed tinned foods but one had bad skin and itched all the while, when I suggested raw he decided and within 3/4 weeks he had lovely cool skin which was soft.  It benefits their teeth too. Raw carrots, cabbage, cauli daily instead of company produced chew sticks.  Kept free of biscuits too.

So many Vet Surgeries are tied in with Commercial Pet Food Companies so can no longer give informed advice.  Ours is in with Hills.  Pets even get a commercial tin of 'get well' food and card  >:(.  I would rather have money off the Bill! 

I trust my Vets completely.  But don't agree that they are now 'tied in' ........ if they can't afford to run a Practice without incentives then choose another profession?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: jillydoll on March 14, 2019, 06:32:55 PM
Yes that's exactly right CLKD.

I think most are ‘in' with Hills.
Horrible stuff...
We fed our dogs raw chicken , and raw chicken wings, eat the lot.....but they can get an allergie to chicken if not careful....never feed pork!.....
Our dog has a mixture, rabbit, beef, venison, turkey, duck, lamb, and goose.
Always tripe, everyday, but with one of the above....
For treats, she gets fruit  that's been made into a biscuit, no additives, no nothing in them.
She eats better than us!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: jaypo on March 14, 2019, 06:43:24 PM
Oh no,it's hills she's on,the protein in it comes from chicken feathers!?!?
She is,I have to say so much better on it but it's hugely expensive as you can only get it from vets or vets online. I'm at a loss as what to do tbh,it's helped her VERY dodgey stomach but not her itching
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: CLKD on March 14, 2019, 06:47:35 PM
Go the raw route?  Buy fresh chicken initially - add gradually - a few chopped pieces under the usual food.  Lots of raw carrots, cauli, ginger, garlic ...........   protein in feathers is made up of keratin


Certain breeds, i.e. Westies, are known to have allergies - probably too much close breeding!  Think what dogs would eat in the wild and it wouldn't be from a can 'cos they can't use an opener  ;).  They would eat bones, fur, gut - and if necessary throw it up to eat again.  Most canines in the wild lay down to eat. 

Ours have all helped themselves to strawberries, bilberries and raspberries in the garden  :D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: CLKD on March 14, 2019, 06:50:00 PM
Abstract

FEATHER keratin is the outstanding protein fibre structure that still lacks an interpretation generally acceptable in any detail.

It has long been known1 that its X-ray diffraction diagram is of a β-type with the strong indication that the residue-length is only about 31/10 Ã…. instead of the 31/10 Ã…. and 31/10 Ã…. found in β-keratin and silk fibroin, and it has corpuscular properties besides2, especially as demonstrated in the paper by Bear and Rugo3, supported also by physico-chemical studies and the finding that the unit is probably a cyclic polypeptide4.

 In Bear and Rugo's scheme the structure is based on a net of corpuscular units the nodes of which are at approximately (0, 0), (0, ½), (½, ¼), and (½, ¾), the plane of the net containing both the main-chain and side-chain directions.

Continuing from this point and associated observations by the same authors, it is the purpose of this communication to state what we believe to be a very strong case for the structure of the corpuscles themselves. The principal steps in the argument may be summarized as follows :


at this point the above article stopped  ;D.  Then I found this:

Protein

Feathers are 85% protein so when birds moult, replacing their feathers, laying hens will usually stop producing eggs. Eggs are made up mainly of protein and it is too much for a hen to produce new feathers as well as eggs.

Pure breeds usually take longer to moult than hybrid hens. Occasionally hens will lay the odd egg during the moult but most will take a break. W

hen a hen is going to moult, her plumage will take on a very dull appearance. It normally takes about 6 weeks for a young healthy pure breed hen to complete a moult. Older hens will take longer.

During a moult, birds do not lose all of their feathers at the same time. This is because in nature, they still need to be able to escape from predators so they do not lose all of their flight feathers at the same time.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: jaypo on March 14, 2019, 07:01:31 PM
Thanks so much for taking the time to find that clkd,very much appreciated xxx
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: CLKD on March 14, 2019, 07:46:00 PM
You are welcome. It's all about networking.  I went the canned food route for my pets but it wasn't until 6 weeks B4 she died that I found out that the symptoms of flea allergy in one cat was actually, food allergy  :'(.  All those years when I could have eased her skin irritation and it never crossed my mind  :bang: we had a free sample of whiskers which she loved and she stopped itching.  I will never get over the guilt  :'(

They would know by smell if the recipe in canned foods was altered  :-\ and would simply walk away from the saucer.  As they were kept inside they couldn't fill up on mice etc..

When changing a pet's diet do it gradually.  To stop it flooding through the gut too fast!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: CLKD on March 15, 2019, 07:24:46 PM
I don't have dogs.  :'(  I have a friend who has and has fed them raw for years. [see above].   He is very organised with 2 freezers, plus a smaller one for human foods.  He has 3 children, well small adults now and they never had problems.  Dogs were fed in a shed so bowls etc. kept away from crawlers .....

There is little risk if the dog doesn't kiss people.  Which is a habit left over from when the bitch would regurgitate to the pups.  To get the bitch to bring up food they would nibble round her lips and jaw which stimulates the vomit reflex in canines.  They don't kiss people because they love them  ;D it's "feed me and feed me now" - a habit that they never lose and which can be discouraged.  Ours were not allowed to 'kiss' hands or faces.

Children can be taught to keep away from food bowls etc..  I grew up with gun dogs which were fed various food stuffs and we never had upset tummies.  [from swimming in the sea but that's another issue ...... ]

Vets will do lots of expensive tests when often a change of diet will solve most problems.  Lots of commercial food stuffs, 2 which most Surgeries seem tied into these days, even those that are supposedly healthy, have additives that dogs simply wouldn't access in the wild.  i.e. biscuits/wheat.  Grass yes, from the gut of any prey they bring down as well as eating grass.  Mine loved that thick new reed kind of grass in the woods and she was never sick after.  They also scavange without ill effects too - the worse thing that my cocker found was a cow's afterbirth  :-\ :sick02: tasty.  Apparently  :D

Steamed food: so is all the goodness steamed out of it ?  How are the veg and fruit served: dried, crushed  :-\. If I remember when near a pet store I'll have a look-see . 

What would you consider a 'good' make of dog food that doesn't have un-necessaries in?  That yucky 'chum' was the one vets would recommend years ago, B4 additives were put in to bulk it up.  Oh the smell but the dogs with sensitive guts loved it.  Mine loved 'butchers tripe' ....... >holds nose<  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: CLKD on March 15, 2019, 08:35:23 PM
Germs.  We need a certain % and I have never met any child that has had upset tummies by interacting with dogs.  When I was growing up dogs were kept outside in kennels.  Or allowed into the kitchen by no further, it was thought that keeping working dogs indoors 'spoilt' them  ::) but we kids would find our ways to the kennels ........  ;D. 

I would be more worried about worms ;-).  I've never had those either, nor nits .........

I am around dogs a lot even though we don't have any here.  Owned dogs; 'babysat' dogs for owners at work; walked dogs for others .........

That Country Hunter sounds almost good enough to eat ...... remember 'bonios'? I've got through several of those in my time  :D.  as well as gnawing on Shapes in different colours especially the charcoal ones ........ it was said that there is better hygiene in animal food preparation factories than those that canned human foods  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: CLKD on March 15, 2019, 08:53:04 PM

Also, we all carry salmonella.  "Salmonella infection (salmonellosis) is a common bacterial disease that affects the intestinal tract. Salmonella bacteria typically live in animal and human intestines and are shed through feces. Humans become infected most frequently through contaminated water or food .........  "



I didn't use products after the first few years though if travelling abroad dogs need a lot of chemicals applied  :-\.  If I didn't C worms in the poo ....... if I saw fleas I spent hours catching them, brought out my hunting instincts  :D.  I could write a book on fleas ........ however, there is part of the life cycle which requires worming.  I wasn't keen on yearly 'boosters' either.

Pet dogs certain reside inside, my used to crawl under my side of the bed on very cold nights ......... never bothered trying to wake Himself  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: CLKD on April 07, 2019, 02:29:45 PM
I met a Welsh foxhound this afternoon, a new breed for me  :).  Thought it was a thinner Mink Hound so no doubt there's a bit of that in it too, as well as a French hound and Bruxelle Griffon Vendeen .........
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: jaypo on April 07, 2019, 05:33:35 PM
Did you read that poor tess Daley ran over her little shiztzu and killed it,she's devastated,builders left her front door open
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: jillydoll on April 07, 2019, 05:48:52 PM
Yes, OH told me earlier....
So sad...
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: CLKD on April 07, 2019, 06:57:59 PM
Oh how sad.  Claire Balding did that with her 1st Tibetan terrier, a gate left open  :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds and healthy feeding
Post by: CLKD on April 15, 2019, 06:16:37 PM
Dog rescued 220km from Thai coast by rig workers


He looks so patient.  A bit of Lab and perhaps Newfie ......... now in the care of a Vet.  :-*
Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: CLKD on May 02, 2019, 11:53:52 AM
Good 'photos of dogs attending the various voting stations today.  Our Council is bankrupt therefore we don't get a Vote  >:(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: jaypo on May 02, 2019, 01:44:49 PM
Let the dogs vote,probably do better than us  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds - being groomed
Post by: CLKD on May 02, 2019, 02:10:04 PM
I agree.  After all elephants sploosh paint around and the efforts sell for £K  :lol:
Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: jillydoll on May 02, 2019, 03:00:07 PM
I saw that.....
At least they get money to be able to continue to look after them....👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Also, did anyone see how they made paper out of elephant poo?
I thought it was really good...didn't like the soaking part of it though....😝😷😷😷
Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: CLKD on May 02, 2019, 03:26:25 PM
Cleaning nappies to recycle too in Wales  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: CLKD on May 17, 2019, 03:30:46 PM
DO share - we started with Rotties in another thread

I love them with tails, they look so regal.  Brought from Italy by the Romans as herding dogs as far as middle Europe they came here, being seen as 'guard dogs' - along with Dobermann ......... which is sad because it gave the breeds a 'bad' name.  As for not liking water  :-\.  I had a cocker who would avoid puddles  ;D and her attitude was 'you shot it, you fetch it'  ::) although she did go after sticks in a fast running stream as long as she didn't go deeper than her ankles  :D.  Some of my happiest memories  :'(

Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: jillydoll on May 17, 2019, 04:33:25 PM
I do love Rotties...
Our first was called Jade.....she died of bone cancer, front leg....(had her pts) she was 7.
Then came Eric...he was the last of the litter, and was left because his one ear was a bit more droopy than the other....also, his toes were not altogether up, like he had flat feet, but wasn't too bad....he was 8 when we put him ts......hip dysphasia, couldn't walk much and was in so much pain, and after months and months  on tablets of one kind or another, we couldn't put him through it anymore....both dogs were sooo loving...used to sleep on the kids beds! Sometimes.....
Then we had the worst rottie ever! He was THE devil dog! .....took him back to breeder, couldn't cope with him, lost our money, I might add.😡. Breeder sold again to a lorry driver who took him everywhere! So we heard later....couldn't risk him with the kids...he wasn't just naughtie, he hated me, with a passion! 😂😂😂
That's my story on my rotties.....my son has one now.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: CLKD on May 17, 2019, 05:07:39 PM
Should never re-sell a dog with 'history' and I thought I'd put this in the other dog thread   ;D - is that a Senior Moment  :-X

I was cornered by a Rottie.  I worked in an office and this dog was 'shown'.  I was told not to go into that area of the house but he had been left by the children ...... in the lounge where I had to walk through.  It was his look.  I was there an hour in 'his' room.  Had I not been told to go into the area I would have dealt with him differently.  She didn't even apologise.

I never went back.  How he was stable enough to Show I'll never know!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: CLKD on June 18, 2019, 08:14:24 AM
As suggested I looked at dogs being 'blown', the best U-TUbe is of 'Mira' - medium-sized white fluffy critter that stood whilst a hair-dryer thingie was held against her coat which went everywhere  ;D .........

Good bird nesting material.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: jillydoll on June 18, 2019, 08:22:48 AM
Oh my god, CLKD, it was everywhere. It's amazing just how much hair they've got!  ;D
As long as it's a bit windy, not only does it blow the small stuff away, but the larger amounts get stuck in corners of the garden, so I can just go pick it up.
Mind you, after the blowing she had yesterday, all her white, was glowing....apart from looking a bit thinner,  ::)  she looked good.  ;D
Blasting them with the blower, stops them looking .....scruffy. Makes the coat look fluffy and clean.... ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: CLKD on June 18, 2019, 08:28:40 AM
It's a double coat?  Which is why it blasts out easily?   Our cocker needed proper grooming a the 'salon' which she hated 'cos they gave her a bath  ;D

Does yours stand still or fidget?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: jillydoll on June 18, 2019, 10:57:15 AM
She does both! 😡 but a good telling off, and a good grip on the collar, and she's ok.
But, we can ‘feel', a grumpy old growl now and then through the collar. 😂
Afterwards, she goes mad, runs wild through the patio door, round the table, back out round the garden, and then again.😂🤣  but we stop her, she doesn't watch where she's running to, and smacks her face off things, like the big pots, or the small wall in the garden! 😡
How she hasn't damaged her face, I'll never know....🙀
Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: CLKD on June 18, 2019, 11:48:17 AM
She's got a lot of heavy bone structure ;-).  If it hurt she wouldn't do it ....... although there's a saying, 'no sense no feeling' but think what she was bred for ;-))

B4 and after 'photos?  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds at the Polls
Post by: jillydoll on June 18, 2019, 07:31:11 PM
Just seen ‘ mira' getting a blast.
That's exactly what I done yesterday in the garden.
Only my dog wasn't standing on a table...😆
Think my dogs a bit bigger than that one.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds - golf balls!
Post by: CLKD on June 18, 2019, 08:13:44 PM
Akita? 

This from Scotland today:

A vet in Fife was left stunned after finding 10 golf balls inside a sick dog's stomach.

Poppy the Labrador was brought to Wilson and Partners vet surgery in Cupar appearing unwell and vomiting.

The mystery was cleared up when an X-ray revealed 10 spherical shapes in her stomach.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 21, 2019, 01:12:43 PM
Dogs mercilessly beaten and burned alive at sick annual Yulin dog festival in China
Just saw this on my news feed 😢😢😢😔
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 21, 2019, 03:28:10 PM
Yes CLKD, I have an Akita...🙂

Ohhhh, Jay, I can't print what I've just said! That's just devastating!  :cuss: :bang:
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 21, 2019, 03:32:08 PM
There was a video but I didn't watch it,I'd never get to sleep 😔☹️
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 21, 2019, 03:49:07 PM
A video? Omg, no!!!
Why THEY do these things I'll never understand! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 21, 2019, 04:56:07 PM
They eat them but I'm not sure why they torture them first 😢😢😢
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: daska86 on June 21, 2019, 07:32:44 PM
We have a smooth fox terrier, they are a vulnerable breed,we always get two reactions when we meet people. Either, "you don't see many of those" or "is that a Parsons Jack Russell". I had a t-shirt printed in the end with "walking a smooth fox terrier " 😀
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Foxylady on June 21, 2019, 07:34:53 PM
never heard of a smooth fox terrier (will need to google a pic! We rescued a weimeraner (was a disaster  :'().
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 21, 2019, 07:37:18 PM
Don't know a smooth fox terrier either.. I'll google too.😆


What happened to your Weimaraner Foxy?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Foxylady on June 21, 2019, 07:45:11 PM
 :'( only had him a week from rescue centre and had to call vet out who put him to sleep in our kitchen (he had bitten me on the leg then launched himself at OH, who ended up on the worktop), vet said guaranteed he had bitten before. Story we were told was given up to rescue centre as owner got knew job and couldn't walk him as much. Just thankfully he waited for us to get him home before going crazy, we had just been to the beach and throwing frisby etc for him with young child playing beside us. It was very traumatic, I had longed for a dog since childhood and was so sad, couldn't face it again.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 21, 2019, 07:56:36 PM
OMG, I'm so sorry Foxy. That's just terrible.
I've always wondered if these dogs homes tell the truth, he must have been abused or something.
Jesus, it could've been a lot worse having a child too. Doesn't bear thinking about!
How long ago was that?
This is the thing, I've always said I'd like to rescue one from the dogs home, but my OH is cautious, just because the home tell you one thing, doesn't mean it's the truth.
We knew a breeder who bred Rottweilers,and had one from a man who said he couldn't look after him anymore, they suspected abuse, wasn't until they picked the broom up to sweep that they found out, he went berserk, attacking them....he'd been beaten with the broom!
And obviously it was the trigger... they did keep him, just didn't sweep when he was around!
What did the dogs home say? Anything?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: pants46 on June 21, 2019, 08:19:26 PM
That is awful. And really unlikely breed to bite. But then any dog that is in pain or has been abused can turn.
Jeff bit 3 people. 2 were my dog walkers (both ladies), but I figured out it was the pain meds he was on that turned him a bit crazy. We got new drugs after 8 days. Both ladies forgave him,  thank god.
The other one was a man. Jeff had got caught up in his lead in the back of my car, and I couldn't free him, it was really tight around his neck. I panicked and started yelling if anyone had a knife. I guy ran across the road from the little cafe with a sharp knife, handed it to the binman who was trying to work the lead off the car seat headrest. He cut the lead. Jeff, panicked by my screaming and the strange man in the back of the car with him, bit him on the ankle. I got in the car and drove away as fast as possible  :-\
I never ever worried that he would bite me though.
The first weekend at home when he met my parents for the first time, he did try and push my Dad around quite a bit. But I got him by the scruff of the neck, and marched him outside, and put him in a time out for 20 mins. (Jeff, not my Dad!!) Never did it again.  And was always very very gentle around my Mum. The only time he would walk by someone's side, was when my Mum had hold of the lead.  :o
Foxy - you did the right thing though. You couldn't have given him back to rehomed again. And you couldn't trust him again. It was the only option. Such a shame those involved in the rehoming process weren't honest, because it is possible to find good, loving homes for problem dogs. It's just harder.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Pennyfarthing on June 21, 2019, 08:33:50 PM
:'( only had him a week from rescue centre and had to call vet out who put him to sleep in our kitchen (he had bitten me on the leg then launched himself at OH, who ended up on the worktop), vet said guaranteed he had bitten before. Story we were told was given up to rescue centre as owner got knew job and couldn't walk him as much. Just thankfully he waited for us to get him home before going crazy, we had just been to the beach and throwing frisby etc for him with young child playing beside us. It was very traumatic, I had longed for a dog since childhood and was so sad, couldn't face it again.

Weimeranners (sp?) can be very nasty.  Where we used to live the pub landlord had one from a puppy and it grew rapidly and was quite nasty.  He called it Hans.  It bit his wife on the leg and then the teenage daughter and then he disappeared.  We asked him what had happened to him and he just said “he's gone on holiday” but I always worried that he would be rehomed and carry on biting.

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Pennyfarthing on June 21, 2019, 08:47:45 PM
We have always had lovely mongrels and they have all been sweet natured and totally trustworthy. We did rescue a Yorkie once and he was the only pedigree we ever had.  He had been passed around various homes, never been walked on a lead and full of fleas.  He came in to our house and took one of my husbands slippers and snarled every time somebody tried to take it off him. 

Next day I sent the kids to school and spent the whole day in a room with him teaching him who was the boss.  I put on thick, padded DIY gloves and many  hours later he understood that he could have it in his basket but if I wanted it back then he had to give it up.  It was really hard work and he went to bite my hand many times but he never went for any of us again.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 21, 2019, 08:59:08 PM
That's the thing, they need to be told whose boss. And most will give in, in the end with perseverance. However, there are some that won't, and it all depends what's been going on in their lives, and will never trust humans again!
It's such a shame. People do some horrendous things to them. No wonder they'll never trust us again. 😭

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: pants46 on June 21, 2019, 09:16:03 PM
Pennyfarthing, well done you. To get that done in one day, absolutely awesome.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 21, 2019, 09:45:24 PM
Yep - being boss works as that's how wolves work in the pack.  The dog is always boss and mates with the alpha female.  Occasionally a lower female will try to muscle in if she fancies him but the alpha female will 'have her'.

I work on the 'pick up the scruff of the neck' school.  It's what the dam does with pups, either to carry them between dens to safety when the pups go floppy or to discipline them.  Also the silent snarl - lips curled, ears back, pup steps away.  So do humans which is why the bigger dogs 'get away with it' particularly if they are somewhere they shouldn't be, i.e. furniture, work surface eating the Sunday roast  ::)

The thing is to be on top.  Always go through doors B4 the dog. Send them downstairs first so that they are never higher than the owner.  Never allow them onto furtnirue until they have learnt 'off' = get off now.  Not 'down', that's a different command for a different movement - lay down.  I was hard on my spaniel when she first arrived, probably too hard  :-\ but she learned.  Once she had been scruffed a couple of times she was OK and I let her on the furniture when I knew she would get off when asked.


A snappy dog might be a frightened dog which bites first.  As for eating dogs: that's what chow chows were bred for, as food ....... but the way animals across the World are seen as commodities hurts me badly.  In Korea .......... why do we trade with these cruel countries  :'(

Do U want a laugh  :whist: it includes the mention of a bed .
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: pants46 on June 21, 2019, 10:50:07 PM
CLKD, you make some very good points. Especially sending them downstairs first, if you let them upstairs in the first place. And always going through doors, fences etc. first. Simple things that can be put in place the minute you get a dog home, puppy or rescue.
More difficult with a cat though  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 21, 2019, 10:54:35 PM
It's the thought of cruelty to any animal intended for the table  :-\.  Adrenaline is supposed to taint the meat and make it tough so I don't see the point in stressing more than necessary.

My Siamese cat was easier to train than the rest and don't get me started on the bunny  :D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Foxylady on June 22, 2019, 08:28:25 AM
The rescue centre were not interested (it was a small, independent place for the specific breed, maybe we were naive), told us to go to A&E if we were injured (thankfully we both still had our walking boots on as just in from long walk). The vet said guaranteed the dog had bitten before, myself and OH really angry about it that someone (previous owner) had put us in that position. Also we were visited and vetted, paperwork etc before getting 'Calvin' ?what checks were done the other way round. Anyway, 5 years ago still doggy sit occasionally but wouldn't get another, if I ever did would be a pup and not from a rescue centre (although I have friends who have had multiple great experiences with rescue dogs!)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 22, 2019, 08:34:07 AM
Trouble is, the centres have to rely on what they have been told.  Blue Cross evaluate all their hand-ins for temperament.  They aren't re-homed immediately.  If a young dog is handed in they are assessed and 'taught' how to be kind.  Potential owners are invited to visit the dog several times in the Centre B4 they take it home, to see if they bond.

There's a centre in I think, Northants that is running out of money.  To keep dogs that cannot be re-homed  :-\  :-\ if they don't get funds those dogs will have to be PTS as the place has to close.  Well, so be it.  A snappy dog in general ain't a happy dog! 

It's a mugs game.  Rescue centres.  A friend was handed over a dog - they had been to see the place on 2 occasions and explained that they were never B4 dog owners with 3 teenage girls.  They were handed an Akita ........ they handed him back.  This was a national 'centre' with lots of yellow advertising.  They were never invited to have a look-see at what was in the kennels it seemed like they were handed the 'dog of the week'. 

They went to the local Vet who knew of a small centre which took in terriers.  They are quite happy with their dog as the Vet knows the people who run the place. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 22, 2019, 08:35:25 AM
That's a shame foxy,sometimes rescue centres do know why they have the animal but,yes,sometimes they just don't know,we took a huge risk taking shadow,our shepherd,she came over from Ireland at 2 years old,she's callouses on her elbows which makes me think she was an outside dog but,we were lucky,she's never so much as bared her teeth,great guard dog but won't let me out of her sight,which becomes trying to say the least🤯
That guy on the tv is amazing,Caesar somebody,little Hispanic guy,I love him,he's firm but my goodness,he's the dog trained sometimes in 5 minutes.its true what they say,it's never the dogs fault
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Foxylady on June 22, 2019, 08:37:09 AM
CLKD, its really scary what happens, the risks of it going wrong are immense especially for first time dog owners & an Akita!! Glad they have a happy ending with a terrier.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Foxylady on June 22, 2019, 08:38:50 AM
Jaypo - caesar milan, we watched him continously for months before we got Calvin as we were first time dog owners & everything he said seemed to make sense.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 22, 2019, 08:45:52 AM
That's the fella,he's brilliant but yes,he makes it look simple and it just isn't sometimes
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 22, 2019, 11:13:18 AM
It ain't simple at all.  It is about being firm, kind and 'boss' though.  I cared for a cocker which looked exactly like 1 I had owner years prior, so I treated him the same  ::) - OK until he guarded a tennis ball  :o.  So we stopped that game.  He snatched at it which was something mine never did  ::)

It is obvious that the breed that wins Crufts gets into rescue centres within 3 years of 'best in show'  ;) and I know several people who bred what was popular at that time; one even met a breeder of fox terriers in a layby - so the Pedigree Papers could have been anyone's  >:( but the KC registered each litter  >:( >:(

I love my little cocker poo neighbour  :-* and she loves me  8)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 22, 2019, 12:18:45 PM
None of my dogs are snappy,you can give them a bone and then take it away from all of them,they just look at me and are like,whatcha doin mum?
I think also if there's peace and harmony in the home,it filters through to the dog,when I was with my ex,the dog we had wasn't well behaved,I was strict & he let her away with everything,poor dog was confused.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 22, 2019, 12:52:02 PM
I always take stuff away, even with dogs that I meet in the street - one owner said recently 'he won't let me do that!' - he never made a murmer at me, I simply reached in and took the ball away.   ::)

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Countrygirl on June 22, 2019, 01:00:04 PM
I've had 3 goldies, still have one and she's a youngster still and a nearly 8 yr old lab who is as daft as can be. They have mostly come to us over a year old (no longer little puppy) due to not being wanted anymore, one owner moved and couldn't take them and my first was only 4 months old but beaten and he was my first and only rescue centre one as all the others have been cards in windows or word of mouth.

We've had problems with mainly separation anxiety, even got a hamster to keep one of them company and it worked a treat. I've found that having 2 is easier as they keep each other company and play together, but we've always introduced them on neutral ground to check they get on before bringing them home.

And last year a cat adopted us after we put up notices and had him scanned to try and find the owner we let him have the run of the house and the dogs took to him straight away and I often find him curled up or running ground the garden with the dogs. I'm convinced he thinks he's a smaller dog  ;D x
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 22, 2019, 01:57:40 PM
I agree CG having 2 dogs is good if you can,our two little uns play all the time & I don't worry when I've to leave them for a few hours.
It's when people buy a dog then go to work for the day & the poor thing left all alone,not right😡
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 22, 2019, 04:20:10 PM
Oh don't get me started, the neighbours that moved two days ago would sit int he garden and allow the dog to bark  >:(  :bang: and I know when the neighbours further down R away from their house because their sheepdog barks constantly.  They leave her for hours sometimes  :'( "well she's had a walk so should be OK" - well, she ain't, she's lonely and a nuisance  :cuss:

My sister has always had rescues ......... never had problems.  Chickens, dogs, horses, cats, donkeys, a gold fish  ::). 

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 22, 2019, 04:47:00 PM
Handing an Akita over, as your first dog, is a big NO, NO!
They need firm handling, they're very stubborn, and if you've no idea what your doing, your in trouble!
That said, it's the same for any breed really, but dogs like this need extra discipline, because of size, power, they can be potentially a danger!
I'm not keen on rescue centres, my brother got a puppy from one years ago, a couple days after he'd got him, he started getting ill, ( the dog, not my brother) it turned out he'd contracted parvo....vet couldn't do a thing, he had to put him to sleep. 😭 He did get a voucher for another dog off the center, 🤬 but never had another.....it broke his heart...😢
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 22, 2019, 05:02:08 PM
That's why we didn't get an Akita Jill,we're both experienced dog owners but having read up on them,we decided no,they can be unpredictable around children it said & as it was going to be a rescue,we thought better not risk it,what with OHs kiddies coming over at weekends
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 22, 2019, 05:18:50 PM
Oh god, yes, good decision....
Now if you have one from a puppy, that's different. Obviously they need tough love, and training, but it's much better from a puppy! ...they are sooo protective, and loyal, no good having another dog in the household either, they like to be the only one. Although someone will post and say they've had other dogs with theirs, but on the whole they don't tolerate other dogs! .. if you read about them, especially in Japan, where they're almost worshipped, they were left looking after the kids,when the owners went out! 😂🤣 don't think I'd ever do that, but they're great for protecting. There's a film with Richard Gere, called ‘Hachi, a dogs tale' about an Akita in Japan. True story, shows you actual footage at the end. Real good.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Countrygirl on June 22, 2019, 05:22:28 PM
We failed the assessment at the local rescue centre even though we had dogs for years and theyve thrived and we took all our vet details so they could check us out, but they were not at liberty to tell us why. Never did get to the bottom of that, but since have got our 2 furry trouble makers who work the big eyed innocent look so well, but they were both through friends of friends x
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 22, 2019, 09:03:55 PM
You'll never know CG. Must have been heartbreaking though.
At least you've got two friends now, who are loved and looked after...
Oh yes, those eyes get us every time don't they, especially when there's food about! 🤣😂
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 22, 2019, 09:47:14 PM
Akitas are fighting dogs.  The most expensive one was sold for £35,000  :o in the 1980s if I remember ...... I think they are stunning lookers though  :-*

Boxers with tails  :-*
I met a DobXFrench mastiff - that is a doggue de Bordeaux - soft as butter but OH the slobber  :-X  :sick02:
What would I have next: Sealyhams x 3 and a Saluki  ;D
Ask me tomorrow, it might be something different ........
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: pants46 on June 22, 2019, 09:51:27 PM
1. My first dog was Jeff (the Rottweiler) from rescue. But I lied on the application form and said the family had dogs when I was growing up. I had rabbits as a kid  ;D

2. How the heck to you fail a rescue centre assesment ? If you're a reasonable adult, don't have very small kids, have a secure garden and are at home a lot ... ???

3. My friend went to see a JR puppy (female) at a rescue centre. Was given the go ahead, was walking to the car with her, when the owner of the centre ran over and grabbed the puppy out of my friends arms. Said no, because their other JR (Dave) was not neutered. My friend has never got over it.

4. All puppies are hard work. If you buy a puppy, you end up with the dog you deserve. If you don't put the time and effort in, you'll end up with trouble. Whatever the breed.

5. Cats are easier. They are what they are  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 22, 2019, 09:52:37 PM
 ;D .........

Cats have Staff  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 23, 2019, 08:42:24 AM
I've had two boxers a brindle,then a white one,brilliant dogs with the funniest personalities you'll ever get,the brindle had her tail,looks so much nicer,I'm glad they don't dock dogs anymore,just wish the US would follow suit,it's the thing they do with their ears over there,poor Doberman's all look startled,cropping I think it's called 😏
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 23, 2019, 09:11:14 AM
Cropping was common in Germany too. Also horses tails  :-\

Was your white boxer deaf?  It's in the white gene apparently.  I LOVE tails  :-*
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 23, 2019, 10:15:18 AM
No,wasn't deaf or blind,she was a stunning looking dog. I just can't understand why people want to interfere with what's normal to an animal but I guess that's humans for you😏🤨
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 23, 2019, 10:21:28 AM
My sons got two ovcharka dogs....one with cropped ears...looks sooo threatening. He lives on a small farm, and keeps him for security.
Bought him off a Russian or Ukrainian woman. ( which is where they come from) can't remember which. Had him imported. And the other one, bought from this country somewhere.
They're massive. Bark as soon as you get 20 feet by em. He can do anything with them tho.
They're like pussy cats when he's around. ....
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Foxylady on June 23, 2019, 11:30:45 AM
I've just googled ovcharka, they look completely different to how I expected! Beautiful looking dogs.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 23, 2019, 11:52:14 AM
Omg,they're HUGE I'd never heard of them before today
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 23, 2019, 01:54:17 PM
AHHH -  :-* - I've seen several of those in the UK in recent years.  All imported from the Ukraine.  Similar to the Tibetan Mastiff .......... which I saw in Stamford a few weeks ago, another rescue  >:(  ::)

Don't have to be nasty, they simply lean  ;D.  Like my Gt Dane used to do  ::). 

Also jillydoll - if they are kept as guard dogs they have to either be in a covered run/kennel or under close control of a human [Dangerous Dogs Act] with warnings around the property.  He can't have them running loose ;-).  If raised as pets, that is different.


Dogs communicate differently if they have a full tail.  The tip begins to move when they are interested in anything, then depending on what it is, the tail wags more and more ........whereas those that have been docked are more edgy as they have less to communicate with.

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 23, 2019, 04:39:38 PM
Yes CLKD, he has them outside in proper kennels...cost a fortune, and he has signs up and security cameras.

No, not raised as pets, in fact, he's the only one that deals with them. No one will go anywhere near them...
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 23, 2019, 05:48:00 PM
Blimey,no much wonder,I'd think twice about getting one of those upset
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 23, 2019, 06:54:16 PM
They are a herding breed so are alert and on the look out.  All that hair, good for the birds' nests ;-).
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 23, 2019, 07:07:34 PM
My husband had to fix a wire above our 5ft garden wall as our shepherd is a good guard dog and when some Chinese tourists decided to stop outside our house to take photos,she leapt right over it and sent them all scattering 😳 luckily she comes back when shouted on but she was only doing what comes naturally & guarding HER property
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 23, 2019, 07:18:19 PM
Now I'm going to remind you that it isn't 'her' property but yours! she is a guest. 

If you sent her over the fence ........... that's different again  ::). What was their reaction?  When growing up there was a Company near us who had Alsations on chains as guards for the lorries - one night the biggest got off it's chain as I was walking by  :o so I stood still and smacked it one with a pile of newspapers that I was delivering.  I could tell it was free because the chain didn't snatch when the dog reached the end.  The bloke came out and the dog was quiet then.  I insisted on stroking it  ::).  It could have turned out so much different  :o but I don't remember being scared but it wasn't going to 'get me'  :D

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 23, 2019, 07:30:56 PM
Yes Mrs Woodhouse😆 was our fault,should've known she could jump it,they all scattered,was a teeny bit funny 🤣 we want her to bark at strangers,we're out in the middle of nowhere so people know she's here,lots of deliveries etc they always ask,would she bite if we came into garden?er yes
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 23, 2019, 08:32:13 PM
People stop us with our Akita, and ask us if their kids can stroke her.
We say no. Just incase. They go Awwww, but she's lovely.
She wouldn't be lovely if she took a chunk outa there face would she?
Look and admire, no touching.....😆😂
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 23, 2019, 08:35:20 PM
Don't get me started on Mrs Woodhouse  >:(

Thing is your property under the UK Gun Laws and Dangerous Dogs Act is a public place ........ so do be careful we don't want any destruction orders.   :'(

Now - what colour combination is your Akita jillydoll? 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 23, 2019, 08:43:23 PM
She's black face, fawn and white...
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 23, 2019, 09:22:33 PM
Oh don't worry,she can't get out now,totally secure & we've signs all over the gate,not to come in if gate is closed.
Jill's dog is BEAUTIFUL clkd but I'd be more scared that Jill would bite😆😂
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 24, 2019, 11:35:34 AM
 ;D ........ so many breeds know that they are stunning.  Mine used to pose in front of the Anglia TV News Cameras  ::).  They weren't filming her but were near enough for her to pull me across the road so that she could sit in front  ;D

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 24, 2019, 01:41:23 PM
Thank you Jay...🐕

And give you rabies Jay? 😂🤣😂
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Countrygirl on June 24, 2019, 02:47:34 PM
My two like to watch relatives dogs on the phone when on video call and sometimes they make funny noises to each other through it, almost like they are having a conversation, mind living with me probably makes mine a little crackers 😂 x
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 24, 2019, 02:57:43 PM
 ;D   -  have they ever met Countrygirl?

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 24, 2019, 03:02:29 PM
Deer enjoys playing football in the Scottish Highlands

seen on Scotland BBC News today  ;D - puts Jack Russells to shame  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on June 24, 2019, 04:26:59 PM
See, I knew horses play badminton!
Wonder who would win, .................horses  v.  Deer. .....In a game football? 😂🤣
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 24, 2019, 09:50:33 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on June 25, 2019, 07:00:27 AM
Would be the deer up in Scotland,they're HUGE , oh no,now I'm speaking about deer & horses playing football,I'm slowly shaking my head🙄
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on June 25, 2019, 07:37:52 AM
The stag was quite small; the 1 playing football. Had it been a European video I would have suggested Chamoix.

Glad I'm not dog walking this morning  :o
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on July 22, 2019, 07:15:29 AM
Did anyone read about the little chihuahua that was picked up by a seagull?How awful,they still haven't found it😢 Think it was called Gizmo
Also in Devon a puppy chihuahua pushed open a door and got out into it's garden and was killed by seagulls,omg,how dreadful.
These birds are huge,I know the ones in Aberdeen were massive,not tiddly little ones,eagle size things.
So if anyone has a little dog,keep it safe ☹️
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on July 22, 2019, 11:31:17 AM
Didn't see that Jay...but I did see the dog who got attacked by someone trying to steal the puppies, ? ....she had a cut face where the bloke hit her with something, but thankfully, they got the puppies back to her safely..... :'(
They orta string these people up! 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on July 22, 2019, 03:24:06 PM
Was a machete I think Jill,can't write on here what I think of these @#&%£@#&@
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on July 22, 2019, 04:51:26 PM
I read about that poor little dog too, but there were some awful remarks on facebook saying the lady had made it up, but someone posted a video of a seagull eating a rabbit and one eating a squirrel, down in ome gulp
I hope that poor little dog is found safe  :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on July 22, 2019, 05:32:51 PM
Oh really? I do hope she IS making it up,she was a bit of a poser mind you,maybe wanting her 15 minutes of fame,in the same article though it said about that flock of seagulls killing the chihuahua puppy,omg,I'd just die if that happened to mine😢😢
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 22, 2019, 08:49:20 PM
They will take rabbits so why not a toy breed?  The worst bit of film I ever saw on TV was a large Burmese python pushing through a cat flap and grabbing a Chihuahua .......... it could feel the heat of the dog through the cat flap  :'(

I read about the Staff-type bitch being attacked, fortunately they got the pups back but what a mixture.  It was probably people wanting them for fighting and they were probably known to the owner - they had followed him into a flat so they probably knew the pups were there. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on July 23, 2019, 08:59:38 AM
I saw that on TV too about the snake eating the chihuahua, awful and read about an escaped snake getting a  neighours cat
Wild animals shouldn't be kept in domestic places,in my opinion,
I don't think the lady is making it up, but i doubt the little dog survived,poor little thing
The scum who took the puppies i think was known to the family from what i have read,so that is how they were recovered so quickly, but to hit the poor mum with a machete, was just evil
I don't know what can be done about all this cruelty, the minimum sentence now is supposed to be 5 years, still not long enough
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 23, 2019, 09:03:17 AM
Surely carrying a knife means Life in Prison and he had a machete - that's what Tony Blair promised  :bang: now they have to go through Court to get a sentence.

The Staff is definitely a fighting breed so maybe it's drugs or illegal dens involved, no doubt Police will have something to follow up. 

Unless the small dog was dropped by the gull I don't hold out hope for it's survival.  Awful. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 23, 2019, 09:11:07 AM
A friend had a kitten taken by a kite.  She was washing up, by the time she had run from her kitchen the bird had flown off with it.  The kitten had been asleep on a blanket in the sun.  Fortunately the bird dropped puss into a bush. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on July 23, 2019, 10:55:33 AM
When our chihuahua was a pup,we would NEVER leave her in the garden as the kites would come down so low,you could actually see them trying to suss out the situation.
These idiots who are allowed to breed these dogs should be hung drawn and quartered,when I was a dispenser,nearly all the drug addicts had staffies,why?because they would get extra benefit money for having a dog,these poor creatures would be bred and bred so these addicts could sell the pups,sometimes for just 50 quid down the pub so they could get their next fix 😡😡😡
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 23, 2019, 12:27:05 PM
It's sad.  There will never be enough Laws to cover the indiscremitant breeding; puppy farms, back streets - often KC accept the registrations without looking in to the backgrounds too  :-\

Nowt wrong with a Staffie  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on July 23, 2019, 01:39:45 PM
No,they're wonderful dogs clkd,apparently brilliant family pets.These idiots have them unfortunately,I kid you not,they get them at 6 weeks old,walk them down the street without any leads by about 8 weeks old,no inoculations and the tiny little things already cower at their owner,breaks my heart 😢
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 23, 2019, 10:01:48 PM
Too young to have left their Mums too ........... I've never met a bad one yet  ;D. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 24, 2019, 03:20:32 PM
Ice cream parlour giving dogs a cone

An ice cream parlour in East Yorkshire is making dog-friendly gelato. Watch the waggy tails and lickky tongues ;-)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on July 24, 2019, 04:11:42 PM
Yay,good for them, I make my dogs ice lollies with their treats in them😊
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 24, 2019, 06:03:58 PM
Messy  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: katsclaws on July 24, 2019, 06:21:26 PM
We have a shop in our village that sells ice cream for dogs.
Our 16 week old springer spaniel has learned to switch the washing machine on. He selects a programme with his paw and then presses the on switch. (He is trying to reach something on the utility room unit.)
Great idea to stick treats in ice lollies.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on July 24, 2019, 06:41:08 PM
All you need now is to train him to make you a cuppa katsclaws😆
I just cut the base off a coke or juice bottle and fill it with water and treats and bobs your doodah 😊
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 24, 2019, 08:10:44 PM
Switch off at the wall katsclaws or you may return to a flooded room  :o

Does he wash up?  Make beds, iron ...........  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 25, 2019, 08:54:49 AM
A CITY dog owner has called for action after claiming a hawk tried to make off with his six-month-old puppy.

Keith Robinson (33) said long-haired dachshund Bronn was attacked by a harris hawk being used to deter seagulls at Millburn Academy while being walked by his wife Nicola (28).

 :o
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: katsclaws on July 25, 2019, 02:27:15 PM
Jaypo, I am definitely going to try that. Do you use any particular type of dog treat.?
CLKD, unfortunately the builders put the sockets for the washing machine machine and tumble dryer inside a cupboard which would need to be emptied every time we used the machine. I will see if the child lock works when the machine is off. Need to find instructions as machine is only six months old. Oh how I wish puppy could help with housework.
We went to a falconry display a long time ago and a gos hawk landed on my head.   
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on July 25, 2019, 02:31:20 PM
No katzclaws,any treat,once they know the treats there you can add more water the next time,so they've got a good sized loll, all 3 of my dogs love em 😊
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 25, 2019, 03:38:55 PM
Our spaniel worked the child locks out within 24 hours  ;D ....... our Great Dane would open doors even when the handles were upside down  :D. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: katsclaws on July 25, 2019, 06:10:42 PM
Thanks jaypo.
What clever dogs, CLKD.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 25, 2019, 07:11:08 PM
Yep.  Being 1 step ahead was hard work  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Krystal on July 29, 2019, 04:19:59 PM
I have heard the John Lewis Department Stores allow well behaved dogs in their stores. I do not have a dog nor have I ever owned one. I just wondered what other people thought about this? Working dogs and assistance dogs are usually allowed in most areas, but other peoples pets? I am not sure.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on July 29, 2019, 04:28:59 PM
I love dogs Krystal but not sure about taking them into department stores,just takes one dog to lift it's leg on something then they all follow suit,no pun intended 😆😂
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 29, 2019, 10:10:47 PM
I saw that happen in a charity shop recently - the owner appeared not to notice and certainly the volunteer didn't see.

Also if hairs get onto clothing/bedding/furntirue  >:( I love dogs but not in Dept stores, also the risk of someone being allergic or getting bitten is HUGE!

I met a deaf boxer bitch today with her tail.  She works on sign language .......... and wasn't a bit nervous in town.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on July 30, 2019, 08:08:44 AM
I used to own boxers,they have such huge personalities
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 30, 2019, 10:06:30 AM
Yep.  They laugh too  ;D ....... the white gene commonly causes deafness in dogs and cats.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on July 30, 2019, 03:07:39 PM
Very humanistic faces,my second one was white,pure white but thankfully wasn't deaf or blind,did have skin issues though
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on July 30, 2019, 07:31:27 PM
Prone to skin cancer.....😢
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on July 31, 2019, 08:43:29 AM
Our white cat should have had sun screen on his ear tips - but it turned blue and wasn't good for street cred  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on August 02, 2019, 02:14:01 PM
I had a thought ........ whoops  :D

jaypo - does your big dog get upset because you R going away a lot   ...........  upsets her routine?

Weather allowing I will get a LOT of dog patting done tomorrow  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on August 02, 2019, 02:15:24 PM
Could be clkd,her name is Shadow and that is exactly what she is with me,so could be
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on August 02, 2019, 02:17:16 PM
Anxiety driven gut upsets then?  Like me  :-\ - any upset to my routine and I need a loo ...... and nope, 'chappie' won't do it for me  :-X :D

Is she too big to take away with you?  Does the same person stay each time?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on August 02, 2019, 02:19:31 PM
Way too big,she's female but she's huge 32kg my daughter stays with us and looks after her but she's stuck to me since the day we rescued her,she's also neurotic
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on August 02, 2019, 04:41:24 PM
That's the answer maybe.  Buy a horse box?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 04, 2019, 07:38:13 AM
https://m.imgur.com/t/funny/p4x64fG
Cute or what,hope I've done this right🤷‍♀️
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 04, 2019, 04:46:13 PM
Omg, how cute is that! ....I love it!... I want one, now! 🤨😆😂
My dog would kill it...can't have one...😢😭
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Foxylady on September 04, 2019, 07:27:45 PM
It's a bit freaky to me!!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 04, 2019, 07:33:25 PM
Nooooooooo foxy,it's a cute little teddy bear,are you just grumpy coz of your cold? ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Foxylady on September 04, 2019, 07:35:00 PM
maybe!! I prefer the look of your doggies in your avetar! x
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 04, 2019, 07:37:04 PM
That's cleo and Mitzi,like chalk and cheese those two
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Foxylady on September 04, 2019, 07:38:33 PM
We had Calvin - weimerhaner, he was a rescue but ended badly :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 04, 2019, 07:41:21 PM
I'd never have another rescue,our German shepherd is a nightmare,what was worst with the weinerhamer (no idea how you spell it 🙄)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 04, 2019, 08:37:04 PM
Shepherds need to work.  Maybe she is bored? sticking to your side asking for work ;-)

Saw a spinonne today SOOOO droolly  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 04, 2019, 08:43:45 PM
She's definitely not bored,where we live and have lived she could run for miles,I think it's because she's terrified she'll be left again,after 6 years,she's settling down,it's been tough at times but I'd not give up on her
Spinonies (is that how you spell the plural ;D) are lovely,used to see them at the shows when I used to show my Hungarian vizsla
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 04, 2019, 08:48:30 PM
We spent £16 on this contraption where there are lids and sliders which you hide the kibble,the shepherd had it figured out in under 5 minutes😳
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 04, 2019, 08:49:46 PM
Kongs - supposedly unchewable!  However  :rofl:

Peanut butter inside is apparently lovely.  But OH so messy  :D.  I used to throw dried food for mine, especially if we stayed somewhere with a patterned rug!!  ;)

Friends are buying a Hungarian puli ........... haven't seen 1 for years  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 04, 2019, 08:54:39 PM
My dog split 2 Kongs - I sent them back to the man who designed them  ;D but can't remember his name after all these years  ::)

She got bored with the 3rd one, too much work  :D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 04, 2019, 08:56:30 PM
Our shepherds jaws are so powerful I've yet to find a toy she can't destroy,we've bought “indestructible “ toys but give her half an hour and they're wrecked
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 04, 2019, 09:04:59 PM
Oh Kongs were invented in the 1990s.  They are a trade name ......... very hard plastic in various sizes.  If yours haven't destroyed them yet they probably won't  :D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 11, 2019, 09:16:19 AM
Did anyone see that two STUPID IDIOTS in China'she brought her little French bulldog into a pet shop to use its doggy pool,then her and staff member watched as it drowned,didn't realise til it was too late that the poor little thing couldn't swim,all the while she's filming it on her phone,omg,people 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 11, 2019, 10:09:14 AM
Nope.  The Asians on the whole don't keep pets.  So are not tuned in to the fact that sometimes  >:(  :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 11, 2019, 01:08:16 PM
Anyone see the dog in India ( I think it was) who was walking around with a broken leg.?
His back leg was broken, and he dragged it around, UNTIL people gave him food, 🤣😂
then his ‘broken' leg miraculously healed itself!!!....
He learnt how to do it when he wanted food! ......someone filmed him, and put it on the internet....very clever doggie! 🤣😂
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 11, 2019, 01:18:39 PM
We had a ginger cat that did that.  He had been attacked a few months B4 and bitten on his back foot, we used to say "How's the poorly foot" and one would be pulled up: not necessarily the 1 that had been bitten  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 11, 2019, 02:16:02 PM
Our chihuahua would do anything for food,when you tell her to sit,she sits,lies down,woofs,spins around and gives her paw 😆 she's got it all covered
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 11, 2019, 05:41:22 PM
Dreadful photos from the RSPCA of a cat, strung up with wire from a hook  >:(  :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 11, 2019, 05:54:06 PM
What's with some people 😡
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 11, 2019, 07:01:00 PM
I'd string them up ............
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 11, 2019, 07:24:10 PM
Just read how some woman who has 11 dogs in Portsmouth let her dog jump into a neighbours garden and maul her chihuahua to death,cctv of this husky trotting down the road with the little dog in it's mouth😢😢😢 poor owner said she now can't close her eyes at night,the owner of the husky hasn't even apologised saying no amount of apology will bring her dog back !!!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 11, 2019, 07:29:28 PM
Dog out of Control in a Public Place!  R the Police involved?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 11, 2019, 07:39:26 PM
It didn't say but this tattooed lady said,the dogs been put to sleep,can't do anymore than that,some folks just shouldn't have animals 😡
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: pants46 on September 11, 2019, 08:22:33 PM
Gardens are not a public place, so a civil matter. Dog on dog wouldn't interest the police anyway.
To be fair, if the husky had never done anything like that before, how are you supposrd to prevent it ?
There are 2 sides to every story. And we (perhaps) shouldn't be too quick to judge.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 12, 2019, 06:38:04 AM
I'm afraid pants46 that under the Dangerous Dogs Act and the UK Gun Laws, any space becomes a public place.  Your house, garden, car ...... which is why Dempsey was the 1st dog to be arrested under the badly put together DDA - he was in his owners car parked in a service area on the M1 and two police officers decided that he was a pit bull and he was taken from the car.  Kept in 'custody' for 9 years and the owner never saw him again  :'(. Don't get me started.

A Labrador in Milton Keynes stood on his side of the gate and barked at a person walking by.  Arrested under the DDA with my friend, a Dog Warden in attendance - he was never seen again.  People can't afford to take on Court Cases.  There was a Vet who would 'stand' for these arrested pets, can't remember his name. 

Another Law states that the owner must ensure that the fence is capable of keeping their dog on their side of the fence.  Cats however, are free roaming.

All dogs are capable of chasing and killing.  The owner has a legal duty to keep dogs under control. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 12, 2019, 08:03:56 AM
Especially rescue dogs,when you have no idea what their past is,her garden should've been secure and the dog not left unattended,what if that had been a child?husky dogs are unpredictable at the best of times.When we first got our rescue shepherd,she was under strict control,never left alone with my little spaniel and on a long leash at ALL times.its never the dogs fault though only bad owners☹️
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Jellyb on September 12, 2019, 09:05:09 AM
CLKD, I think you're referring to Trevor Cooper.  As far as i know he still is still around.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 12, 2019, 02:15:59 PM
Which is why we had to put stop to our dog going round the corner where we couldn't see her, she would go round when next doors little dog started barking. Which is almost ALL the time when it's in their garden, it barks non stop most days....so, there was a tiny gap in the fence where this little dog could put his nose through, OH had to fix another piece of wood on to cover this up. They didn't stop their dog barking, or prevent him from doing this, and as they are OUR fences, we thought we'd do it, just for the sake of him keeping his snout.
We've totally stopped her now from going round this corner altogether, and by doing so, it's stopped her being wound up and ready to kill....dunno what this little dog is saying to our dog when he barks, but Jesus, if she could get her teeth on him, it wouldn't be nice! 😢
Quite scary really, but you HAVE to do something, if you have a dog like ours, it's our responsibility to stop something bad happening....end of!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on September 12, 2019, 02:55:47 PM
There is so much cruelty, with animals,for the last few week there has been a lurcher type dog going round killing cats, sometimes a man with it sometimes a boy,they know what is happening, and it's almost daily, police are investigating, but surely someone must know who this dogs owners are
I have said while this is going on why don't people keep their cats inside,
I know it's not what cats want if they are used to going out, but better safe than sorry
I have 3, Ragdolls but they were housecats initially, so don't want to venture far, and stay in my very secure garden, i know if they wanted to they could jump fences, and climb trees, but they are too lazy and laid back
On another note 2 tiny kittens have been found buried ,i guess through neglect they have died as full of fleas and very skinny,
RSPCA are investigating ,and looking for whoever buried them, wrapped in kitchen roll paper, poor little things,i bet the mum isn't looking good either
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 12, 2019, 03:06:39 PM
What is the mentality of these people? Makes you wonder what they'll be doing next.
Hope they catch em...and throw away the key....although I think that's a long shot. 😡
Makes me  :cuss:   
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 12, 2019, 03:12:16 PM
It's just awful, I agree Jill,it definitely is our responsibility to make sure our dogs don't get out,our shepherd used to be able to jump on top of our 6 ft high wall so OH heightened it by putting wires all along the top,I'd be beside myself if she killed a little dog,your dog and mine are both big powerful dogs,bred specifically for guarding and that's just what they do.
As for those idiots with the lurcher 😡🤬😡
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 12, 2019, 03:14:55 PM
I've just posted on the wrong thread! 😬😬😬 I have apologised....🤫
It should've been this thread...🤦‍♀️.........😆
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 12, 2019, 03:31:43 PM
Just delete it Jill
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 12, 2019, 08:05:48 PM
I was going to, but some ladies have related to it...so I'll just leave it. Doesn't matter...xx
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 13, 2019, 10:32:26 AM
That's awful for everyone McKay.  Dogs don't 'turn' for no reason, there's always a trigger.  Some don't like black dogs, my collie was often set upon as she would run along hedges and other dogs couldn't see, so she would 'suddenly' appear out of nowhere. 

I had a friend whose dog had a brain tumour which was affecting the sight on one side, if approached he would 'turn' as he was scared.  He never bit as he turned with a deep grown and jaws shut .......... once it was diagnosed the situation could be anticipated.

I was wondering who the person was who represented 'dangerous' dogs, but can't remember - yet but certainly not heard of Trevor Cooper.

Years++ ago my cocker set off after a collie.  Totally took me by surprise.  This collie had been 'rude' to her for years, running from his gate half way across the road and barking and growling.  This day she decided to have 'her say' apparently  :-\.  She 'went in' barking and snarling .......... then trotted back when I called her almost with a smirk.  My reaction, well I'm not proud  :'( and those few moments haunt me to this day.  She had obviously had enough and I can have no idea what was 'said'. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 13, 2019, 01:14:08 PM
My shepherd is as mild and meek as a baby but if she's on the lead and a dog growls at her she goes nuts,she's never the instigator but boy would he defend herself
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 13, 2019, 01:49:25 PM
She.....🔝. 😆

Our dog hunts anything that moves....even bags blowing in the wind across the road. 🤦‍♀️
She has a very high prey drive, not much we can do about it now, she is better than when we first had her, but I think it's in her genes, most Akita's are the same....need tough handling. You can't afford to be mamby pandy with her....mind you, she bloody well knows when I shout at her, she looks up at me and starts squinting.....😆 makes my heart melt.😌
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 13, 2019, 02:57:33 PM
Actually my dog is a he she 😆😂🤣
Yeah,Shadow is the same,she brought in a squirrel one time,then a baby bunny 😢😢 so proud of herself,me,distraught
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 13, 2019, 05:07:07 PM
Akitas were fighting dogs in recent history. Don't know what they were bred for ......... the most expensive was sold at £35,000 ..........  :o

I met a Sheba Inu recently - a ball of brown fluff trotting along  :-*
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 13, 2019, 07:11:00 PM
Akita's were bred for protecting the nobility in Japan.....then bred for hunting, bear, and boar. We have what's known as an American Akita....Japanese Sheba Inu, are smaller than the American version...but the Sheba Inu is the oldest of the breeds....both have very similar characteristics, both have strong prey drive, and need good handling. They are very protective, and their size makes them threatening. I'm not keen on the inu's ....I much prefer our type...I'd like a male next time, although, I'm not keen on their coats blowing.
And, it would have to be a puppy, so we could mould it our way, but then OH isn't keen on having a puppy....🤷‍♀️ Something we'll have to discuss later on in time...
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 13, 2019, 07:49:38 PM
Aww that's a great idea McKay G.....I couldn't do that with my dog, she'd just go...
She always has to be on lead...where ever she goes...
It's so lovely to see dogs running and playing together....but again, my dog wouldn't do that.
She plays with us, but she can get quite strong, and never gives up, we have to tell her to stop in the end.  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 13, 2019, 08:10:52 PM
Cockers are bred to 'put up' so work forwards.  However: they should be trainable .......... mine would go to point for hours and was never wrong  ::) but it was shrews.  Usually  ;D but she was so pleased.  Until she saw a hare or smelt a 'form' then she would dash after it.  No way could she catch one but her nose was so good. 

What would I have next  :-\
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on September 19, 2019, 10:28:32 AM
I lost my little dog 4 weeks ago,got her from a couple who wanted to rehome her, She was lovely and gentle, brought up with cats but just ignored mine,one of my Ragdolls always swiped her as she passed him, but she just gave a luttle growl and moved on
Last sunday my son who normally comes for sunday dinner, asked if he could bring his new dog,a Jack Russel, i had met the dog before ,but i said yes i will shut the cats in bedrooms
However i went upstair for something and had to go in the room where one of the cats was, i didn't notice the dog follow me, and he went to grb the cat,i pcked her up and the dog carried on tring to reach her in my arms
He must have caught her leg with his claws, and she was screaming,i daren't let her go,so got scratched and bitten, i'm full of bruises from scratches and she bit me on the chin, poor little thing,
My son ran upstairs and got the dog,
I had to take her to the vet as she could't put her foot on the floor [70] for painkillers,
My son was so upset,and offered to pay the vets bill, but it was totally my fault, the dog was so quick,and was basically in the room before i was
I feel so guilty as it was totally my fault for not shutting the dog in the living room,
The cat is much better and managing to put her foot down now,
She did turn her back on me for a while,
Had to get antibiotics for me
I don't know if i would ever find another dog like lola, r i p she was so gentle and quiet, didn't bother the cats at all when i got her
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 19, 2019, 10:52:12 AM
Aww don't blame yourself Jaycee,these things happen,your cat is ok,that's the main thing,jack russells are renowned for being little hunters,I've never met one yet,that doesn't have attitude
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 19, 2019, 06:39:09 PM
Yes totally agree with Jaypo...Jaycee....
It was just an unfortunate thing to happen. Wasn't anyone's fault..
Don't blame yourself, apart from a sore leg, which is getting better, and a sore chin,...everything's ok...it could've been a lot worse...... :foryou: 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 19, 2019, 08:21:10 PM
These things happen.  I have guilt about a lot of issues as my pets got older  :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on September 19, 2019, 08:36:23 PM
Thank you, yes at least the cat is ok, it was her getting mauled probably or me getting bitten and scratched,i have a few bruises and scratches, but my son feels guilty for bringing the dog, told him not to,[feel guilty] as you say these things happen and everyone is fine,and the cat is friends with me again,lol
The dog is lovely, it was just instinct
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 19, 2019, 08:51:53 PM
When he visits with the dog next time, keep it on a short lead even in the house.  That way training can begin.  R JR would chase cats, until the moggy turned round and fluffed up  :o.  She would creep back into the house and hide underneath the cushion in her basket  ::).  Like "I've done my bit" .........
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on September 20, 2019, 09:24:03 AM
CLKD that was the plan ,but because the cats were in the bedrooms i thought it would be ok to leave him off the lead nd he spent a lot of time in the very enclosed garden, wont make the same mistake next time
Strangely the dog is fine outside, never bothers about cats, but is always on the lead, but tries to go for big dogs
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 20, 2019, 12:57:00 PM
Little dog syndrome, don't they call that? ....😆
I've known people with that too! 😂
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 20, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
My JR would go for anything bigger than herself  ;D

I met a Dandi Dimont today, another very rare breed such a happy cheerful dog
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 30, 2019, 08:35:00 AM
I saw a Caucasian Shepherd dog on Friday  :o - he was HUGE! 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 30, 2019, 04:01:25 PM
Aww love em CLKD...love em.....😉
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 30, 2019, 04:17:47 PM
Love what?  They are like the Bernese and Leonbergers but BIGGER and less amiable.  Bred to wander amongst the sheep on watch for wolves and bears ............ need lots of space and can you imagine the plastic bag you would require  :o  :-X.  All that coat ....... I was warned by the owner: and have read today: that they don't like strangers ...... good job I didn't do my usual 'throw arms around neck' trick then  :P

I would love to be there when the various breeds were 'invented' to see which breeds went into which type to get what we have today. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 30, 2019, 05:34:47 PM
My two little mutts nearly tore seven bells out of each other a couple of nights ago,over a chew bone,I had to tear them apart,they were like something possessed,best of friends again now
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 30, 2019, 05:48:39 PM
Doesn't take much to trigger jealousy - feed them separate in future?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on September 30, 2019, 06:08:03 PM
My son has one CLKD....he did have three....two pts....

He's the only one who deals with him. He's like putty in his hands. Anyone else though, omg, I've-never  seen anything like it. Go up to the fence, and he goes ballistic, as soon as my son shouts shut up, he backs off....he had him for security on his small farm where he lives. He had a few unsavoury people on his land at one point, doing drugs, and the police said they couldn't do much, even though he has children, and they were finding syringes and things around in the fields. So he decided to get serious. And it worked....
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 30, 2019, 06:15:12 PM
OH! would he have any more?  They are HUGE!

I found another Sealyham metal model at a fair which will go to the Pack in Devon eventually along with 2 books about terriers. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on September 30, 2019, 07:05:41 PM
Sorry I've missed part of this,are we talking about your OH jill  ;D ;D 🏃🏼‍♀️🏃🏼‍♀️⬅️ That'll be me next time I see him  ;D
Those dogs are huge,I looked them up,blimey,you'd be barmy to go near one of them😳
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on September 30, 2019, 07:08:12 PM
Unless it was cold  ;D - imagine that on the end of the bed.  ;D  I suspect that there is a bit of NeopolitanxTibetan MastiffxEnglish mastiff ...... to get the bulk of a dog that will take on bears and wolves. Plus the thick treble-coat and thick pads although they don't have webbed feet which I would have thought would assist grip on snow when running. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 03, 2019, 06:21:18 PM
You should look at a Turkish Kangal on YouTube
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on October 03, 2019, 06:44:37 PM
Love Kangals Jay......have you seen the Cane Corso.....?  I'd love one of them...
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 03, 2019, 06:46:11 PM
Wouldn't argue with one of them  :o
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 06, 2019, 04:47:31 PM
Sausage dogs fill cafe as Suffolk mass walk rained off
Title: Dog breeds - RSPCA
Post by: CLKD on October 22, 2019, 08:18:20 PM

Breed:   Presa Canaria
Colour:   Black
Age:   7 Years (approx)
Ref:   160956

I thought the above is illegal in the UK but the details state that 'a potential new owner will need knowledge of this breed'  :-\. I have tried to send a message but it keeps asking me to re-word my query  >:(

You really couldn't write it, a Charity that screamed for the DDAct  :cuss:
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 23, 2019, 07:43:35 AM
Are they illegal clkd? It's very confusing to what is and isn't,think they're a mastiff aren't they? Even with pit bulls,it's hard to tell if they're a cross or not and the unsavoury people that own some of them will argue to the end
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 23, 2019, 07:45:38 AM
According to the list of banned breeds in the Dangerous Dogs Act these are illegal.  He looks lovely though  :-\

Pitbull 'terriers' have never been a breed, anywhere.  They don't breed 'true' as there are so many mixes, mainly mastiff-type and staffies.  A bit of American bull-dog thrown in ...........

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on October 23, 2019, 04:15:24 PM
I love both of those dogs, pit bulls, and canario.( come from the Canary Islands).

I've just read that the Chow Chow are very aggressive!  :o  I know it's how they're brought up too, but as a whole, they have an aggressive streak in them. I didn't know that, someone jogs around here with one with the lead around her waist....😆 out old next door neighbours  used to have one, purple tongue he had, spent all his time asleep on the grass...😆
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 23, 2019, 05:11:56 PM
Chows have purple tongues like giraffes  ;D

Chows were bred for the table as well a guarding temples so have a tendency to be like JRs  :D.  Where did you read this?

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on October 23, 2019, 05:29:35 PM
It was a website my OH was on....🤷‍♀️ It also said that they were bred for, not only hunting and guarding, but for human consumption.....😳 in China. It was Queen Victoria who saw one and started to import them. That's how they took off in this country....
Dunno if all that's true, don't fancy one myself, think I still prefer the Akita's....
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Jellyb on October 24, 2019, 01:40:22 PM
Is there anyone on here with a Finnish Lapphund?  Love those, such beautiful dogs.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on October 24, 2019, 02:35:55 PM
Don't know JellyB, but just googled the dog you mention, yes they are lovely aren't they.
Think they're a spitz type dog? Very beautiful..
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 24, 2019, 03:26:47 PM
Just looked at them too,very cute
I used to have a Hungarian Vizsla many moons ago,we used to show her and she did really well,don't think I could be bothered with all that these days though
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Jellyb on October 25, 2019, 08:45:32 AM
Jaypo,
I used to show my Westies.  Gave up around 4 years ago, I certainly don't miss the cold dark mornings and standing around in a draughty agricultural centre!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 25, 2019, 03:46:38 PM
Aww westies,good little Scottish breed,my mums friend used to have one called Bertie,lived til he was 15
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Jellyb on October 25, 2019, 03:51:17 PM
Yep Jaypo, they are lovely.  We lost our eldest one in May at age 13. :'( :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 25, 2019, 03:54:30 PM
Takes forever to stop mourning for them  :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 25, 2019, 06:31:39 PM
Were they used on barges like the Shickperpau [sp] JellyB?

It's interesting how so many breeds were used for similar purposes. 

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Jellyb on October 25, 2019, 08:34:08 PM
Jaypo, yes, I'm still devastated, atctge moment I feel that I'll never get over it.

CLKD, No, I believe they were used for herding in Finland and areas around it.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: pants46 on October 25, 2019, 09:59:43 PM
Jellyb I'm so sorry for your loss. It will get better.
I lost my Jeff (my big boy Rottie) back in 2015. He passed 6 days after my last chemo. It still brings a tear to my eye. But I focus on the good times we had together. No regrets.
Sending you hugs. x
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 26, 2019, 09:06:12 AM
We've 2 new dogs now and love them soooooooo much but even now,4 years after losing my little cavalier spaniel, I can cry just thinking about her
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 26, 2019, 10:11:29 AM
I met a rescue dog from Romania on Sat., used for ratting apparently and many are being imported through correct channels as they are mistreated.  He was very aloof.  Long.  Sleek. Tan coloured, about the size of a foxhound.

Wondering if he spoke English  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: alibeau on October 27, 2019, 02:29:26 PM
We have three gorgeous boys!!

Buddy is a puggle (beagle x pug) handsome & intelligent
Max is a jug (jack russell x pug) nice but dim  ;D
Rocky (chihuahua) boss of the bunch, cute & very clever

Ali x

Ps wish I knew how to post a pic of them?!
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 27, 2019, 03:04:15 PM
Awww I love puggles,cutest faces ever,mine are both poodle/chihuahua,it's funny as the more chihuahua one is definitely the boss😆 puts our shepherd in her place
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 27, 2019, 04:40:31 PM
1stX are a good mix.  Mongrels were everywhere when I was a kid  ::).  Heinz 57 ............
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 27, 2019, 04:44:12 PM
Yeah and now you pay a fortune for a mongrel  >:(
Title: Corgis [ Dog Breeds etc. ]
Post by: CLKD on October 27, 2019, 04:46:07 PM
They aren't mongrels: they are a 1stX.   A mongrel is when there are more than 3 breeds involved ............ neighbours paid £900.00 for a puggle when they became popular and were promised a Pedigree  ;D. Of course, we all have a Pedigree but they never got anything, not even from the KC  ;).  I warned 'em B4 they went to see the litter and they swore that they had been promised paper work. 

Mongrels are of course, much healthier  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 27, 2019, 04:57:10 PM
Think it takes a breed 50 years to be recognised by the KC wasn't that long ago jack Russell's were allowed into crufts.
30 or 40 years ago you'd NEVER pay for a cross breed,regardless of what it's mix but now? We were £500 each for our two and 60 quid for our pure bred German shepherd who we rescued when she was two AND she is KC registered
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 27, 2019, 05:10:23 PM
Don't get me started on the KC  >:(

When I was growing up I knew that Mr Smith's dog had been over friendly with Mrs Jone's bitch and how big the pups might be and what colours  ;D.  My Dad stlll wouldn't let me have a pup though  :-\  :'(
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: pants46 on October 27, 2019, 05:12:05 PM
I looked at a litter of poochons, earlier in the year (just online), and they were £1,500 each.  :o
Bloomin georgeous though.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 27, 2019, 05:16:22 PM
What will they be when they grow up  ;D

How about a Sealyham, Corgi or Otter Hound - on the Rare Breeds List and will cost as much ...........
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 28, 2019, 04:27:56 PM
Pugs of Norwich step out for 'Pug'o'ween' fun in Eaton Park

A group of pug owners have helped their much-loved pups get into the spirit of Halloween by letting them have a fancy dress "Pug'o'ween".
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on October 28, 2019, 06:40:08 PM
Pug-o-ween....... :rofl:
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 28, 2019, 06:56:16 PM
Pug o wee - all over the floor  ;D but don't they all look happy.  Some breeds recognise each other and seem happy together  :-*
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on October 29, 2019, 03:44:27 PM
So sorry for the loss of your dog Jaypo, :'( i know exactly how devastating it is to lose your precious pet
I lost my yorkshire terrier x lola in August, still cry when anyone asks me about her it was very sudden although she had been ill for a few months :'(
I am not sure if i will get another dog, but i will want a nice calm natured one if i do, as i have 3 cats and she was lovely with them,  they accepted her straight away,and they had never seen a dog in their life before :) :)
I would prefer a rescue dog, but obviously must be ok with cats
I was told poodles might be ok, and there are poodle rescues, as with other breeds, but i dot mind what breed really as long as it is small, and not a puppy
Only a distant thought yet,has anyone any idea of what poodles are like in nature, or can suggest any other calm natured dog, not too boisterous ?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 29, 2019, 03:50:06 PM
Poodles are hunt, point, retrieve used for putting up and fetching game.  I wouldn't hesitate.   

Rescue is great but be careful as many Centres seem to show people the 'dog of the day/month'.  There are a lot of staffies in care.  Greyhounds always need homes as do whippet/lurcher types.  Both are fast in short bursts  ;D

Browse the rehoming sites perhaps - see what the Centres protocols are.  Would you take an older dog for example? 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 29, 2019, 06:37:37 PM
She's ever so cute Jaycee,that's her in your pic isn't it?
Toy poodles are lovely little dogs,so loving,also highly recommend cavalier spaniels,nothing phases them,no aggression just happy little dogs
Better stop or I'll be in tears xx
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 29, 2019, 06:43:00 PM
Cavaliers have health problems though particularly in the heart.  The KC could have stopped all that!

I looked after one for years and he was a sweetie  :-*.  Happy.  Easily fitted into our life style. Went happily for walks ......   3 down the road yap a bit, they wind each other up  :D

I'm trying to think what I would have if push came to choosing  ;D it's a bit like Desert Island Discs  8)

OK - whippet
Bedlington
Sealyham Terrier
Corgi

Caucasian Shepherd - to keep them in order and to warm out bed  :D



Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 29, 2019, 06:49:17 PM
I've had 5 spaniels and bred 3 litters,none of them had heart issues but yes you're right,they can have heart murmurs,I think most breeds these days come with their own issues,just luck of the draw if yours is ok or not.my last cavalier was 14 when she passed
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 29, 2019, 06:55:19 PM
The 1 I looked after was nearly 18.  Died in his sleep.  Heart problems and dicky guts  ::) which Buscopan sorted. 

Our cocker had 'dry eye' [which has a long name] as do Westies who have skin problems too.  Raw feeding should solve that one.

Some breeds don't live very long.  Years ago some boxer lines had early cancers  :'(

No dog should drool!!!! it's bad breeding.  Gt Danes were particularly prone for years but heads are smaller and jowls tighter ;-)

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 29, 2019, 07:03:25 PM
Aww that's a brilliant age😊 bulldogs and Great Danes don't live long,just wish they'd stop breeding these dogs so intensely 😡 I also had two boxers,a white one who was fine,no issues at all and a brindle one,huge characters,I used to laugh at them every day,just the expressions on their faces
Did you watch the dog rescuers yesterday?omg those poor sharpei dogs 😢
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 29, 2019, 07:14:35 PM
Can't watch  :'(

Boxers are comical  ;D ............ especially when they wave their tails. The wag starts at the end and finishes in a big sloppy grin  :D

The KC should have stopped dog diseases and conditions  >:(



Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 29, 2019, 07:48:00 PM
Aww I know what you mean,it's sad sometimes but they do such great work and all the happy dogs in new homes is wonderful, I do shout at the tv a lot though  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Jellyb on October 29, 2019, 08:07:38 PM
Don't forget the Westies - a Westie is Bestie!!  They are such lovely characters.  Great family companions.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 29, 2019, 08:15:36 PM
 ;D

Until it begins to scratch  :'(. 

OK what would you choose?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Jellyb on October 29, 2019, 08:27:26 PM
They don't all have skin problems. Many suffer because they are clipped and also bathed too often in fancy shampoos.   I've had 2, hand stripped both of them and they've been fine.

I would choose another Westie (although my wrist is shot from the hand stripping) or a Finnish Lapphund.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 29, 2019, 09:06:26 PM
I tried to hand strip my cocker - I could do one side  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Jellyb on October 29, 2019, 09:22:13 PM
It's quite therapeutic once you get into it. I can spend hours in my grooming room.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 30, 2019, 07:38:15 AM
I got cramp and she got bored  ;D

She was stripped by a breeder of cockers and the 1st time I couldn't believe that the pup presented to me was mine  ::)
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 30, 2019, 09:11:44 AM
Think I'd have another boxer for a big dog,they are such characters bit stubborn but stay pups most of their life and I'd definitely have another chihuahua x poodle,although my more poodle has gone into old dog mode even though she's not even 4 yet,whereas the more chihuahua one,well,she's just nuts 😆 ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on October 30, 2019, 10:58:46 AM
A poor little Shitzu was attacked across the road from me on Saturday,i didn't see it thank goodness, but it was said to be by a bull mastiff according to one report, but another said an American pitbull, which was loose,which is very rare for a dog to be running loose around here,
The poor little dog was on a lead with it's owner who was obviously terrified and shocked,she is 75,
I hope the owner of the dog is found,
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on October 30, 2019, 02:42:54 PM
I saw two boxers this morning....a white one, and a brindle? One...( brown) 😃

I'd love to have the dog off the flash advert....think it's a Golden poo?  But not sure. The puppies are to die for, but then ALL puppies are cute...
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 30, 2019, 03:19:06 PM
You get red and whites jill,or the brindles are a mishmash (technical term)of black and brown
My worst fear is a big dog will appear from nowhere and attack my two,it must be horrific,you'd never want to shut your eyes again 🥺😢
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 30, 2019, 07:48:57 PM
jaycee - I read that on the news yesterday  :'( ........

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on October 30, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
Not keen on the white ones Jay...but like the others...are they not crazy like, all their lives?
They have a reputation of being barmy don't they? 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on October 31, 2019, 12:04:24 AM
CLKD, did you,i didn't know it had been on the national news,i thought it was just local to me,poor little dog, and the owner would have been so traumatised,i just hope the owner  of the big dog has been found
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on October 31, 2019, 08:51:45 AM
They're totally nuts jill but such fun dogs,almost like they have a sense of humour but omg,stubborn & strong willed,it's like owning your Akita,you've got to be knowledgeable about dogs before getting one
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Pennyfarthing on October 31, 2019, 02:02:44 PM
mongrels are the best dogs and we have had a succession of them over the years.  Only had one pedigree and that was a Springer Spaniel when I was 16. 
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 31, 2019, 04:32:00 PM
It went viral jaycee .........
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on October 31, 2019, 07:10:16 PM
I don't often get newspapers now, was it online or on TV news, I didn't hear anything about it except on local facebook
My little dog was grabbed by the throat though by a shitzu a few months ago, was just going round a corner and the other lady with dog was coming round the opposite way, her dog just grabbed lola by the throat, poor little thing was shook up, but not hurt, the lady apologised and said her dog was a rescue and had come from a very bad situation and was very aggressive to other dogs,and this was the dog I was wondering if had been attacked,
I will hear eventually I expect
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 31, 2019, 07:54:57 PM
On 'local' BBC News

If she is awake that the dog is unstable it should have a muzzle!!! under the Dangerous Dogs Act it would be classed as a dog out of control in a public place.  But if she is genuine then she needs to seek advice!  Blue Cross do support.
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on October 31, 2019, 09:17:27 PM
I've found out this evening that a dog stolen  :'( from a van locally 12 months ago has been reunited with her family yesterday.   :-*  Best News Ever!

Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on October 31, 2019, 09:50:37 PM
Yes CLKD the lady knows that the dog is aggressive to other dogs, but I think tries to keep him away from them,it was just that we both came round the same corner in opposite directions

So pleased that the dog stolen has been reunited with it's owners,
There are some terrible things happen to stolen dogs sometimes,
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on November 01, 2019, 09:37:06 AM
I would suggest that she uses a muzzle with the advice of her Vet., it may even relax the little dog.  Also being on a lead can encourage defensive dogs to bark first  ::)

So pleased that I don't have a dog today - it's drizzling. Hard  :D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on November 01, 2019, 11:58:03 AM
Yes i agree, my poor lola was shocked, also there are 2 staffies who go around with a woman in a mobilty scooteri have seen  them with the owner at the local shops, so i do not pass them if she laves them outside the shops, with leads just hung over the handlebars, they are supposed to wear muzzles i was told as they killed a poor sleeping cat
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on November 01, 2019, 12:55:56 PM
Who told you that though?  If you are worried contact the Dog Warden who will investigate.  Staffies get a bad press for no reason. 

I've been mugged by a very muddy cockerpoo  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on November 01, 2019, 02:01:55 PM
Aww have you CLKD? 😆 they're lovely aren't they?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on November 01, 2019, 02:31:29 PM
Yep.  Paw prints drying on the thighs of my jeans  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on November 01, 2019, 03:04:31 PM
I need to get sheets with paw prints printed on them so I don't notice which are real muddy prints,tried to change the sheets on our bed today,two little uns decided they wanted to play on the bed while I tried to take the sheet off,gave up in the end  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on November 01, 2019, 04:17:11 PM
 ;D. our cat used to run down the duvet cover  >:(  8) ....... purring loudly  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Cazikins on November 09, 2019, 04:51:32 PM
Had to have my 14 year old Jack Russell put to sleep last month  :'( :'(. It was her time as she had a seizure. I lasted 10 days before we got a new puppy. I know I should have waited at least 2 months but the void in my life was unbearable.
Our little bundle of joy is a cross westie/cairn cross & he's like a little rocket - I'm exhausted.
R.I.P my darling Trixie I will never, ever forget you princess  :scottie: xx
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on November 09, 2019, 05:08:34 PM
Oh cazikins I'm so so sorry,it's just too awful for words.Some people need to get a dog straight away,others wait for years (like me) there's no right or wrong.Whats the new one called?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on November 09, 2019, 06:18:18 PM
14 years aint' long enough but seems to be the average age for most breeds.  A westiexcairn  ;D ........ fast then  :scottie:

Now:

a) what colour?
b) has a tail?
c) which bed does he sleep in?
d) house training going well?
e) eats everything he can get his teeth into?
f) apart from "You Little X" does he have a name  ;D
g) how many in the litter?
h) what was the Mum?
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on November 09, 2019, 06:57:06 PM
Not that we're nosey or anything  ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on November 09, 2019, 08:13:14 PM
What! Moi  :lol:
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: Cazikins on November 13, 2019, 01:26:44 PM
14 years aint' long enough but seems to be the average age for most breeds.  A westiexcairn  ;D ........ fast then  :scottie:

Now:

a) what colour?
b) has a tail?
c) which bed does he sleep in?
d) house training going well?
e) eats everything he can get his teeth into?
f) apart from "You Little X" does he have a name  ;D
g) how many in the litter?
h) what was the Mum?

Brindle
Yes
His own
OK'ish
Pretty much
Yes he does
6
A bitch

Oh & yes - you are nosey  :-*  :) x

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :scottie: :scottie: :scottie: :scottie: :scottie: :scottie: ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on November 13, 2019, 04:07:07 PM
Puppy will keep you on your toes cazikins😊
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: getting_old on November 13, 2019, 09:53:07 PM
So a westie x cairn is really a cairn as the westies were originally bred from the cairns
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on November 16, 2019, 02:33:55 PM
 ;D



I'm going for a Corgi and Sealyham next ........ but haven't told DH yet  ;D [both very rare breeds]
Title: Re: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on November 23, 2019, 05:22:13 PM
I am championing Sealyham terriers and Corgis  ;D
Title: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on November 29, 2019, 04:17:45 PM
Dog walkers and countryside users are being warned about a dangerous banned poison being used in bait to target birds of prey in North Yorkshire.

A red kite was found dead close to Pateley Bridge in March and tests have shown traces of Bendiocarb and the banned poison Isofenphos.

North Yorkshire Police are warning anyone who may find a carcass of a bird or rabbit not to go near it.
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on November 30, 2019, 09:31:48 AM
Who wants to kill the birds clkd?
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on November 30, 2019, 09:38:11 AM
 :-X. those that have a vested interest in breaking the Law.
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 05, 2019, 08:31:44 PM
https://imgur.com/gallery/MRbpmMs
I want one
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on December 05, 2019, 08:51:18 PM
What-the hell is that?  😂🤣  imagine him on the bed with you...🤣😂
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 05, 2019, 09:19:29 PM
Dunno,they've boofed it up a bit
I do have one of them in bed with me,my OH is very hairy 😂😆
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 06, 2019, 06:15:47 PM
https://imgur.com/gallery/YcQr9hv
This is my dog watching her favourite movie  ;D
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on December 06, 2019, 08:14:47 PM
Such a cutie. She'll fit in my bag on Sunday. Or up my OHs jumper....or down my pants. 🤣😂
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: sheila99 on December 06, 2019, 09:29:46 PM
...or down my pants. 🤣😂
The mind boggles...  :o ::)
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on December 06, 2019, 09:49:48 PM
Yeah but you haven't seen the size of my pants! 😆 Shelia....
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 06, 2019, 10:30:34 PM
Nah she's tiny,my dog that is,not jill,or her pants 😂
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on December 07, 2019, 10:28:36 AM
Oi, I heard that! 🤨
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 07, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on December 07, 2019, 01:53:28 PM
I have recently got a poochon, he is lovely in the house but a nightmare outside when he sees other dogs,and very strong
I got him because i wanted a dog used to cats,and saw a pic of him with a cat, but mine are frightened of him, mainly because he is so boisterous, i took him upstairs on a lead while they wete all quietly laid on my bed and no reaction from any of them, but as soon as they move he will chase
I am feeling that i have made a mistake ,my poor cats wont come downstairs, and his bark is more like Rottweiler.
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 07, 2019, 02:07:31 PM
Jaycee have you tried the citronella collars?My two poochis both have them,they work wonders
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on December 07, 2019, 02:53:21 PM
That kiddilies is a Tibetan Mastiff ............  ;D

what is a poochon?  Maybe let the cats get used to him.  Also discipline him when he chases.  Mine got a heavy shake when she even looked at our cats so ignored them after a couple of days, any in the garden though  ;D. 

Poodle ? X ?

Get a Halty thingy - do you have friends with dogs? who will walk with him until he gets used to them.  Sometimes dogs are defensive when on a lead ....... but fine off  ::)
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on December 07, 2019, 02:54:19 PM
OMG - slobbery chops  :sick02: bad breeding, too much jowl  :sick02:
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on December 07, 2019, 04:49:11 PM
Course it is ! Think the size threw me..... x
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 07, 2019, 05:00:24 PM
Think a poochon is poodle x bichon frise
Haha if I'd a mastiff like that I'd have it shaved  ;D
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on December 07, 2019, 05:29:04 PM
Think our dog is starting to blow her coat AGAIN! It'll be in full force for Xmas, how nice is that? 🤬🤬🤬🤬 fur in my xmas dinner! 🤣😂
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on December 07, 2019, 05:36:19 PM
At least you'll get a C.mas dinner?  We will be eating cold, in the cold .........  ::)

Unless it's a standard poodle mix .......... it shouldn't be particularly strong, especially with a wellie boot aimed a the right buttock!
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 07, 2019, 06:15:54 PM
Is that how you keep your OH in tow clkd  ;D
Our Shepherd casting just now too,gave her a bath today,boy she was stinky 🤢 especially for you Jill
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on December 07, 2019, 06:17:18 PM
It will be our 3rd C.mas eating in the car  ;)
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 07, 2019, 06:39:27 PM
Whaaat?why you eating in your car!?!? :o
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jillydoll on December 07, 2019, 06:44:21 PM
Your oven packed up? Or, your going for a romantic dinner for two in the car, eating from a hamper, with a nice bottle of red in one hand, and a pork pie in the other, over looking the sea somewhere? 😉
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on December 08, 2019, 12:11:51 AM
Jaypo, yes it is a poodle crossed with a Bichon, it is not that he is so strong as such until he sees other dogs, and he goes ballistic,
I wastold he had been walked every day by the kids, no way,e is completely out of control,he will try to run to the road when a motorbike passes, and gets himself tangled in his lead trying to get to dogs, i ended up turning round and coming home
I am only small and he can easily pull me, not over but make me want to run
He goes mad when he hears the cats upstairs chasing about,
I am surprised my neighbours haven't compl;ained, [they dont like dogs,]
he growled at me last night when i tried to get a bit of dirt off his bottom, and also when he somehow got a tissue stuck to a bone he was chewing
Having said all that,he is very affectionate and will climb up next to me and sit for ages with his head on my chest

Never heard of citronella collars,where do you get them from? and how do they work, to calm the dog?
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on December 08, 2019, 09:34:34 AM
R U able to anticipate his moods?  Short lead whilst walking, lots of treats.  Make him turn to you, never pick him up as it re-inforces his guard instinct.  Sit beside him, hold with both hands and keep him looking at you if possible.  Hands should smell 'nice' ;-).  The reason that dogs set off at others is to drive them away so by walking in the other direction gives you the control.  If he barks and the perceived threat walks by, he has achieved his aim.  Bark = threat gone.  The dogs down the road from behind a high fence do this, of course we all walk past.  Aim achieved. I would love to stand and mutter at them until they shut up  ;D

At home begin by hand feeding dry food.  A little and often.  On a short lead, make him sit and wait: then produce a tit-bit and give to him.  Then produce a tit-bit and make him wait.  Through the day .  Also, put a small amount of food into a bowl which you hold whilst he is eating, with your thumb wriggling in the bowl.  If he growls, remove bowl.  Takes about 3-4 days for them to get the hint that you are the provider.



This worked for my JR.  She would grumble and snap ..... eventually you should be able to drop tit bits and make him wait, then a quiet 'get it' for him to pick up.  Hard work ahead  :D

He may have had to fight for grub or maybe protective anyway.  Will he require grooming?  Same as above, little and often.   Do you have a stair gate?  If he kicks off when the cats play upstairs, same again.  Short lead, small treats, making the focus on you.  Early days!
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 08, 2019, 10:20:17 AM
Oh dear Jaycee,hard work,isn't he a small dog then? Citronella collars automatically spray when the dog barks and they don't like it,my two poodle crosses would yap all day at ANYTHING in the garden but as soon as I put their collars on........silence,it's easy and it's effective,you can get them on Amazon but put in for small dogs and don't opt for the cheap ones also a fantastic invention for dogs pulling on leads etc is a halti,it's like a horses head collar and you control the dog from it's nose rather than it's neck,my Shepherd has one and she weighs in at over 5 stone and she walks like a dream on it,otherwise I'd be pulled off my feet too,again,simple but effective x
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on December 08, 2019, 02:33:27 PM
 ;D. I have been nudged many times by strange dogs who want to remove the 'halty' from their noses  ;D .......... 'Halti' is a trade mark I think.  One should always have a collar and lead because the disc has to be shown on a collar and also, a dog can slip a Halti.  One has double the control.

I met someone with a lurcher recently, she has a distraction citronella remote ......... which she pushes and it squirts the dog from a collar.  Makes him look round at her. 
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 08, 2019, 03:39:06 PM
Yeah the halti can slip but it's got a clip on it which you attach to the collar,my boxer just used to lie down when she wore it  ;D
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on December 08, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
 ;D ............ knowing full well that you couldn't shift her?

Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 08, 2019, 09:30:33 PM
Yep,took my dog for a drag rather than a walk  ;D
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on December 08, 2019, 09:47:41 PM
Looks cruel, didn't anyone phone the RSPCA on her behalf  ;D

Try shifting a Tibetan Mastiff ?  :D
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 08, 2019, 10:14:38 PM
Could've lay her on a skateboard I suppose  ;D
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on December 08, 2019, 11:39:11 PM
Thanks everyone,i have noted all suggestions, i wastold about a spray in a can someone suggested,i have sent for one off Amazon, i think it works something  like the citronella collar,she said it worked for her
I have just taken him for his last walk and is good as gold, because there are no dogs about
I am more worried about the cats,they have been upstairs for the last 2 weeks,
They have ventured downstairs a couple of times into the kitchen, but if he heas them he barks and they fly back upstairs
At least thy get to sleep with me ,and i go and spend some time with them during the day, for now
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaypo on December 09, 2019, 09:12:42 AM
I can't remember how old you said he was Jaycee but you can't let him become the dominant party if that happens it will only get worse,YOU are the top dog and he must learn that,the reason the collars are so good is because they're consistent maybe with a hand held can it won't be?? For instance,when you are NOT there,anyway,I'm really hoping all can be solved,poor kittys,pity they wouldn't swing for him,might teach him a lesson,really feel for you 💖
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on December 09, 2019, 09:26:03 AM
He will learn.  He's probably never been taught manners.  The cats will be fine, as long as there is a litter tray  :o, food, water and somewhere to sleep which they do 27 hours a day ;-)

Short lead.  Sharp tug and a firm quiet 'no'.  Don't shout as it winds dogs up.  A deep voice can work too .........
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: jaycee on December 09, 2019, 09:46:26 AM
He started to go upstairs last night and saw one of the cats sat on the stairs,i just said no in a loud stern voice and he came back
I really don't think he would harm them, it's just that he's so boisterous, his bark is so loud that he was sat on my knee yesterday and saw a bird fly past, he barked and my coffee went all over me lol
His previous owner said he loves cats, and i don't think he would lie about it and risk any being harmed
He often sits on my knee, and is very affectionate really
The reson he was rehomed was because, he worked nights and the wife suffered social anxiety , so couldn't take him out, so i don't think he has been around other dogs much if at all,
He is only 18 months old, and i was really looking for an older dog,, it was the photo of him with a cat that swayed me

I would post a pic, but not sure how to on here
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on December 09, 2019, 12:36:32 PM
He'll be fine.  It's all new to him.  Once you find what things excite him you have something to work on.  Little steps ;-). 
Title: Re: Poison warning: Yorkshire: Dog Breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on December 18, 2019, 05:14:15 PM
A dog owner had to take four pets to the vet after suspected "poisoned food" was left in a field used by walkers.

Gillian Chenery said they sniffed out what looked like chocolate marshmallows laced with drugs in Thorndon, Suffolk.

The dogs had their stomachs emptied and Mrs Chenery said she felt "sick" to learn two, including a puppy, had eaten what were believed to be painkillers.
Title: Re: Poison warning: across the UK
Post by: CLKD on December 18, 2019, 08:17:29 PM
A dog owner who gagged her pet with duct tape to go on holiday for the weekend has been banned from keeping animals for 15 years

Elizabeth Steel abandoned the Collie cross without adequate food or water after covering its face with a taped-on muzzle so it could not bark.

Neighbours in Kilmarnock, East Ayrshire, alerted police after hearing the animal whimpering.


The Judge didn't consider this woman to be cruel .........  dog has been re-homed.
Title: Re: Poison warning: across the UK and cruelty in Scotland
Post by: jaypo on December 18, 2019, 08:47:33 PM
I'd like to tape a muzzle to her face
WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE  >:(
Title: Re: Poison warning: across the UK and cruelty in Scotland
Post by: jillydoll on December 18, 2019, 09:37:59 PM
Omg, I know what I'd like to do to her, and it doesn't involve tape! 🤬🤬
If that's NOT cruel, I don't know what is! 🤬🤬
Title: Re: Poison warning: across the UK and cruelty in Scotland
Post by: jaycee on December 18, 2019, 11:34:18 PM
Some of these judges need gagging unless they can give proper sentences out, disgusting what this woman did to that poor dog,glad it has been rehomed
Title: Re: Poison warning: across the UK and cruelty in Scotland
Post by: CLKD on December 19, 2019, 08:09:26 AM
My gut wrenched when I read it.   :'(
Title: Re: Poison warning: across the UK and cruelty in Scotland
Post by: jaypo on December 19, 2019, 02:37:07 PM
That Alan Davies programme had something similar,the dogs mouth had been so tightly taped up fo so long it was all misshapen , I actually hate these people
Title: Re: Poison warning: across the UK and cruelty in Scotland
Post by: CLKD on December 19, 2019, 04:24:21 PM
Yep so do I.  Can't watch dog homing programmes  :'(
Title: Re: Vomiting Warning - across the UK
Post by: CLKD on February 03, 2020, 05:08:49 PM
Vets across the UK have reported a general increase in cases of this condition, so we need to make dog owners aware of what signs they should be looking out for.

"Affected dogs are vomiting a lot more frequently than is typically seen with canine gastroenteritis.

"The frequency and persistence of the vomiting is quite unusual, and so it makes cases stand out.

"In some cases, dogs have been vomiting profusely for up to five days, with five or more bouts within a 12-hour period.

"Some are also suffering from diarrhoea and are lethargic and off their food.

"Should an owner suspect that their dog may be suffering from this condition, they should immediately contact their local veterinary practice for advice.

"This is obviously a very unpleasant condition for dogs, and so the quicker owners act, the faster their dog can get treatment.

"There is some anecdotal evidence that affected dogs can transmit the disease to other dogs, which is why it is important that owners keep an eye out for any signs of the condition and then contact their veterinary practice if their dog begins to display any.

"The Small Animal Veterinary Surveillance Network (SAVSNET) at the University of Liverpool is currently investigating the potential outbreak, so it is also important that any vets that see a case pass the information on to this organisation to help them monitor the situation and then give the best advice on any future control measures.


"This is obviously very worrying for dog owners throughout the UK, but it is important that they remain calm, but vigilant, and contact their local vets if they have any concerns."

For more information and advice on dog welfare, please visit www.vets4pets.com or the web-site at your local Vet Practices

Title: Re: Vomiting Warning - across the UK
Post by: jillydoll on February 03, 2020, 06:37:47 PM
Oh Christ! Hope our dogs ok, she's in kennels! 😱
Pick her up Wednesday.
They've said she's ok when we've rang tho. 🤞🤞🤞🤞
Title: Police in Derby are investigating after reports a number of dogs have fallen ill
Post by: CLKD on February 03, 2020, 06:51:49 PM
I think it's dogs out of kennels etc., those that come into contact with others.  Mine always needed an anti-sickness jab to stop the spasms.
Title: Re: Dogs: Vomiting Warning - across the UK
Post by: jillydoll on February 03, 2020, 06:59:29 PM
Yeah, as soon as our dog starts throwing up, OH gets her to the vet for an anti sickness jab.
They can give her whatever, BUT she has to have an anti sickness jab. We can't deal with dogs sick! 🤮
Poo, yes, vomit, NO. 😆.  🤷‍♀️
Title: Re: Dogs: Vomiting Warning - across the UK
Post by: CLKD on February 03, 2020, 07:01:24 PM
Oh pet sick is no problem but human sick  :-X
Title: Re: Dogs: Vomiting Warning - across the UK
Post by: CLKD on March 01, 2020, 08:48:08 PM
I met a new breed to me this afternoon:

Kooikers were popular in the 17th and 18th century and appeared in the paintings of Rembrandt and Jan Steen: small spaniel-type whichI thought was a mix of Cavalier x Duck Tolling Retriever in fact is spaniel with Duck Tolling way back.  Puppies rare in the UK yet.  Quite aloof which is apparently a characteristic of the breed, bit like a saluki.  Looking for things beyond the horizon.

I also saw a spinnone which was all over me for a cuddle - I managed to avoid the slobber  ;D

Title: Re: Dogs: Vomiting Warning - across the UK
Post by: jaycee on March 07, 2020, 05:03:51 PM
A lady i know on facebook is having an horrendous time with her dogs, all are ill with this,or something similiar,and one poor dog has died, :'( went downhill very quickly. vets are doing  a post mortem,as they have no idea what has caused it :(
The dogs seem to be picking up, then ghave to rushed back to the vets
Title: Re: Dogs: Vomiting Warning - across the UK
Post by: CLKD on March 07, 2020, 05:08:20 PM
Alabama rot is the nasty to look out for too. 
Title: Police investigating:
Post by: CLKD on August 19, 2020, 04:34:56 PM
Headline on Derbyshire News today:

Police in Derby are investigating after reports a number of dogs have fallen ill and died in recent days.

Officers were called on Saturday after a dog died when they became ill in Finsley Walk, Sunny Hill.

They were told by the caller another dog had recently died and one other had also become ill.

Lee Rogers, from Finsley Walk, said his pug Lilly was the first in the area to die and believes all the dogs that have fallen ill or died lived either on the same street or in nearby Caxton Street.

Two-year-old Lilly became ill about three weeks ago with sickness and diarrhoea and died a fortnight ago.

The 34-year-old said his vet "suspected poisoning" after finding the dog had a ruptured bowel.

Title: Re: Dogs: Vomiting Warning - across the UK
Post by: C.C. on August 19, 2020, 05:03:03 PM
Our dear late Golden Retriever was poisoned when she was 2, this sounds disturbingly familiar.  She had a bloated stomach, pooped nothing but blood and vomited everything she ate.  Took her straight to the vet, he did Xrays and bloodwork and hooked her up to an IV. It was determined that she had been poisoned with rat poison.
Someone (never found out who it was, good thing for them)  in our neighbourhood had laced bread crumbs with poison to kill the mice that had been found around the area. It was winter and the mice were getting into people's garages.  Poor Penny had must have eaten a breadcrumb (or two) and ingested enough to make her critically ill.  The vet had to do extensive surgery to straighten out her bowels (they had twisted) and fix her spleen.  She could have easily died at that time.  Thankfully she fully recovered and lived another 8 years until cancer took her. :'(
Title: Re: Dogs: Vomiting Warning - across the UK
Post by: CLKD on August 19, 2020, 05:34:17 PM
That's so sad C.C. - memories like that can take away any happy ones  :-\

Apparently there's been a rise in rats so many are resorting to poisons which is cruel.
Title: Re: Dogs: Vomiting Warning - across the UK
Post by: C.C. on August 19, 2020, 06:05:45 PM
When this happens, those responsible have no consideration for the family pets that could accidently ingest the poison. It's complete ignorance and it's maddening.  I nearly lost my puppers because of somebody's stupidity.  :angryfire:
Title: Re: Stolen Dogs: - across the UK
Post by: CLKD on February 25, 2021, 09:01:34 AM
Labrador stolen: Stolen from Mattishall Lane, Hockering. Please make too hot to handle. This dog is the best friend of an autistic boy.. This is not far from Norwich. 
Title: Re: Stolen Dogs: - across the UK
Post by: CLKD on April 05, 2021, 12:02:25 PM
Dog theft investigation: Police seize 27 dogs in Essex

a mix of lurchers, gun dogs, a Rottie ...........

Title: Re: Police finding lots of stolen Dogs: - across the UK
Post by: jaycee on July 03, 2021, 11:21:43 AM
Lots more dogs recovered this week some in Birmingham, others in sussex. and various other places,
A gang of armed men have just got 35 years for theft of 8 bulldog puppies[which were recovered]
Probably more for being armed than theft of puppies, byt new law out a few days ago,brings 5 years minimum for theft and animal cruelty
I think some greedy breeders are fuelling these thefts with the extortionate prices,
I have seen prices especially for bulldogs up to £10,000 ,
Also they are so overbred now breeders are doing payment plans as they cant sell them,prices need to come down, and breeding more regulated, many are not even registered ,some  are on benefits and making ££££££ in untaxed cash
Title: Re: Police finding lots of stolen Dogs: - across the UK
Post by: CLKD on July 03, 2021, 11:51:14 AM
It makes my blood boil.  If 1 has 2 breeding bitches they have to registered with the LA and premises inspected.  Yeah.  Right.  That will never happen. 

Also many people state that when they go to various dog rescue charities, that they can't see many that are kept in those kennels.  They get a few photos offered up, rather than actually getting to have a gut feeling.  No wonder they go to various web-sites etc. and pay extortionate prices!  This is something that the RSPCA should be following up, reading all the small ads, visiting PetsAtHome and Vet Surgeries to see what is 'for sale' and where.

Also, breeders need to stop advertising on notice boards! because that is fuelling the addresses - thieves then go in and snatch.

Locally a terrier went missing 3 weeks ago: the family had a call yesterday stating that the RSPCA have their dog and would be delivering it 'later'.  Never turned up  :'( Hanging is too good for these people!

Good to know that the Police are actively engaging in returning these: however, it may be that they are more interested in breaking up drugs gangs .......... a means to an end?
Title: Re: Police finding lots of stolen Dogs: - across the UK
Post by: jaypo on July 03, 2021, 01:09:24 PM
We've been looking to get a new guard dog lately and no much wonder people get scammed,all the adverts out there th some saying a deposit via credit card will secure the puppy for you......yeah,right  >:(
Title: Re: Police finding lots of stolen Dogs: - across the UK
Post by: CLKD on July 03, 2021, 01:50:18 PM
Guard dogs have to be either in a kennel or attached to a handler when out and about: Dangerous Dogs Act.  There are bark alarms which set off when people approach a building.  Llamas apparently make good guards around chickens.  Pigs can be threatening.  As can a nude woman running towards ............

Terriers are often more feisty than a large breed.  Especially several that yap.  Loudly. 
Title: Re: Police finding lots of stolen Dogs: - across the UK
Post by: jaypo on July 04, 2021, 02:13:51 PM
Hahaha they'd certainly scarper if they saw me running naked towards them  ;D
Our old German Shepherd was an excellent guard dog,nobody would have dared come into our garden but if you told her,look,they're ok,she would listen to you and sit,oh dear, I miss her  :'(
Title: Re: Police finding lots of stolen Dogs: - across the UK
Post by: CLKD on July 04, 2021, 02:47:56 PM
Of course you miss her. But you won't find another of the same ...... so will compare continually. 

In your position I would go 4 an Anatolian Shepherd dog ;-)
Title: Re: Police finding lots of stolen Dogs: - across the UK
Post by: jaycee on July 05, 2021, 11:38:59 AM
I think some of the rescues don't always give proper advice,and sometimes adopters just don't take any notice
In the last few days i have read of 2 rescues being found dead on railway lines,
One of the dogs had been let in the garden on it's own, after having it for only 2 weeks,and yesterday read of a poor dog,only had 20 minutes and escaped, found dead on railway lines
Also another killed on the roads
A lot of these poor dogs come here from Romania mainly for a better life,and end up dead
Absolutely sickening,
Title: Re: Police finding lots of stolen Dogs: - across the UK
Post by: CLKD on July 05, 2021, 12:15:47 PM
I think that due to C-19 some rescue centres haven't done the home checks !  Dogs need to bond ...... and will go exploring or run off in fright.  Thought most from Romania are well handled prior to being rehomed.  It's really tragic ..........  :'(
Title: Stolen last night :
Post by: CLKD on August 05, 2021, 08:50:57 AM
Owners of a boarding kennels in Derby have urged people to make three dogs stolen from their site "too hot to handle".

The trio, named Elvis, Remy, and Tony, were taken from Spondon's Brookfield Farm in the early hours of Wednesday.   - cockers/mixed

Please share.
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: jaycee on August 14, 2021, 09:48:06 PM
3 PUPPIES AND MOTHER CHOW CHOW BEEN FOUND IN TERRIBLE CONDITION, YESTERDAY I THINK,POOR THINGS ARE COVERED IN MANGE AND EYE INFECTIONS, MOST LIKELY DUMPED,
PUPPIES ARE ABOUT 5 MONTHS OLD
[Sorry about caps by accident ]
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: CLKD on August 15, 2021, 08:47:57 AM
Big article in the Sat papers about the 'types' of dogs being snatched, from young people in the streets. How can these people sleep at night.  A big 'ring' of dog theft has been infiltrated in M Keynes - huge numbers involved, good work by the various agencies and Police involved.  At last the RSPCA are doing what they are 'paid' to do!

Mange is difficult to shift: mine had fox mange which require lots of baths, she smelt like a creosoted fence after.   
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: jaypo on August 15, 2021, 10:59:59 AM
Is it STILL going on? It's terrible you can't enjoy a stroll with your dog in fear of someone stealing it off you,one of my dogs (Mitzi) would just curl up and die if she was stolen,she'd never settle with anyone else  :'(
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: CLKD on August 15, 2021, 01:56:06 PM
It will continue for a long while now.  Theives have found a way of snatching pets and unless caught on camera: as a recent episode was which resulted in the arrest of a 17 year old: it will happen over and over.  At least the Police are now taking these thefts seriously but the cynic in me thinks it's due to them being attached to drugs crimes.
Title: More Stolen dogs in recent weeks : however
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2022, 08:52:07 PM
Today I met a Bouvier des Flandres dog - as pups they look like many of the mastiff-types, including the Tibetan.   They grow to look like a very woolly Schnauzer with a fluffier coat.  Not many seen on the streets of the UK.
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: VictoryV on February 27, 2022, 09:48:05 PM
Dog theft really scares me. I’m very aware of everybody around as I walk on my own. I see owners listening to music with ear pods or chatting away on their phones, easy targets for thieves.
I walk them in various places and different times to avoid a routine. They are trained to stay close by and their recall is good. Does anybody have any tips to make walking safer please?
Thanks.
V☀️
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2022, 10:08:16 PM
Have two leads, as it's known that thieves will cut the leads.  One on the neck and another on a harness might help.

Keep the dogs on the inside so that they aren't walking by the kerb.

Walk with others when possible and in busy areas.  Vary the times that you go out and the routes taken though keep yourself safe at all times.  Have a shriek alarm in your hand or a perfume spray .......... use it.

Any1 using a mobile whilst walking leaves them open to abuse of all kinds.  We had a young lad step off a pavement last week straight in front of us, he was totally unaware as he was jabbering on his mobile.  We had anticipated his actions!
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: VictoryV on February 28, 2022, 08:31:49 AM
Thanks CLKD. I’ve joined a dog walking club which gives some additional security and has a very good social scene, lots of doggy pubs exist around here!
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: jaypo on February 28, 2022, 08:48:54 AM
My daughter and I carry a spray with us,sounds drastic but if it was sprayed into their face it would burn their eyes,ha,it's not pepper spray just one of those fly repellents but I accidentally got a tiny amount in my eye and boy did it sting, I wouldn't think twice about using it on these nasty people
Title: Do not be overheard ( Stolen dogs )
Post by: CLKD on February 28, 2022, 10:01:51 AM
Don't post photos on line.  Of children, pets or when you are away on holiday.  Don't discuss the same in Pubs where you can be overheard and then followed.

This happens in the Antiques World. A lot.  Thieves wander round the fairs watching; they engage with dealers.  Then follow them to their cars and rob on site, or follow them to their drive ways where they then attack the dealer. 

It is better to carry a perfume atomiser.  If the Police think that someone is walking 'tooled up', they will take them to Court.  Regardless of the reason why you are carrying a pepper spray-type defence bottle. 
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: jaypo on February 28, 2022, 01:18:10 PM
What a world we live in  :'(
Ha it's a midge deterrent,I'd just say I was spraying it on when he happened to try and steal my dog,it's crazy how it can be turned around isn't it? Then YOU are the criminal  >:(
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: CLKD on February 28, 2022, 03:08:50 PM
Yep.  We were told in the 1980s by a police officer at a talk with the Youth Club on how to protect ourselves, not to carry hair spray etc. as the Police would have to take action as an 'offensive weapon'  ::). 

Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: jaypo on February 28, 2022, 03:25:51 PM
I'd do anything to protect my dogs and ultimately it would be my word against criminal scum  >:(
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: CLKD on February 28, 2022, 03:30:30 PM
Yep.  I would have killed to protect mine  :-*.  NO ONE .......... don't even think of it!

Two dachsunds stolen in Northamptonshire on Sat. afternoon. Wouldn't you think that with all the news, people would be more careful  :bang:
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: CLKD on May 13, 2022, 01:26:28 PM
The 3 dachshunds that were stolen from their garden in N/shire have been found over recent weeks.  PHEW!

C.C. - how did U get on with the discussion with the Goldie breeder?
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: CLKD on August 05, 2022, 09:58:52 AM
20 puppies left in a crate in a lay-by  :'( Probably from several litters of similar age.  B****Sards
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: jaypo on August 05, 2022, 12:34:11 PM
Wow, I never fail to be horrified at how heinous people can be. Would it be so hard to just (if you HAVE to) leave the crate outside a vets or an animal shelter?  >:(
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: Songbird on August 05, 2022, 12:55:59 PM
The thought of my boy being stolen horrifies me! These people are scum >:( (and as for people mistreating dogs - don’t get me started!)
Honestly, I couldn’t trust myself to work for the SPCA - can you imagine coming across the character that had abused the wee thing you had rescued?  :angryfire:
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: CLKD on August 05, 2022, 12:58:06 PM
There are more - men jailed this week having cropped ears of 'bull'-type puppies : pit-bull/mastiff/xStaffie  >:(

And a lurcher in dreadful condition with puppies rescued from a shed during those two hottest days ever ........... now in the care of the Scottish PCA. 
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: jaypo on August 05, 2022, 02:15:12 PM
I think it would be the worst thing ever,having your dog stolen,not knowing how it was,omg,not worth thinking about,my poodle mix would just curl up and die if she wasn't with us  :'(

I saw that clkd,why oh why do they want cropped ears? Makes them look more aggressive of course  :-\
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: CLKD on August 05, 2022, 02:30:50 PM
It used to be common in Germany: Gt Danes, Dobes, Alsations ..........

Of course all pups have to be micro chipped by Law in the UK, that won't apply to back street breeders though  >:(.  A member of the public made the alert when seeing the pups in a cage being transferred somewhere. 
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: C.C. on August 05, 2022, 02:40:36 PM
It just sickens me how cruel people can be.  I have a friend that works at our local shelter and the stories she had told are heartbreaking and infuriating. >:(
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: CLKD on August 05, 2022, 02:44:37 PM
Infuriating certainly.  Un-necessary too.  Cruel - perhaps they should have the same done to them!

Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: jaypo on August 05, 2022, 02:53:24 PM
I guarantee there are very few dogs chipped,only responsible breeders will do this.
Cropping is still common in the states,I watch that "animal cops Houston " at the weekend and all the Doberman's seem to have it done,as far as I can tell,it just makes them look surprised more than anything else 🤷‍♀️
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: CLKD on August 05, 2022, 04:24:54 PM
Yep.  Like WTF  :o

I don't watch many programmes about animal rescue.  Too upsetting  :'(
Title: dog breeds etc.
Post by: CLKD on August 16, 2022, 08:16:01 PM
Bounced
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: groundhog on August 16, 2022, 08:36:50 PM
Hi ladies,
I’m 62 and just taken ownership of a puppy.  Yes I think k I must be mad !
Been a difficult few years so we decided to get a dog in the hope it will get me out and give me a new focus on life.  I did have reservations and I was right to, he’s hard work !
He is adorable though, a cockapoo called Barney , 13 weeks old now so we’ve had him 5 weeks.  Trying to do everything right but it’s harder than I thought as I’m not in the best of health.  He’s getting there tho and very loving and funny.
Pic in my profile !
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: Songbird on August 16, 2022, 08:55:54 PM
Hi Groundhog
Barney is absolutely gorgeous.  I do know what you mean re the hard work.
Our Cockapoo is 4 years old.  I’ve had dogs all of my life (retrievers, German shepherds and now a cockapest  ;D ).
They can be quite demanding and seem to know how to get their own way! Just make sure he knows that you make the rules and reward him when he does what you ask  :o
I hope you find that the walking he is going to need leads to your health improving.  I certainly found that my mental health improved once we got him.
Our boy is so funny and still does zoomies around the living room! Another positive is…….
No shedding of hair!  :bighug:
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: sheila99 on August 16, 2022, 09:38:33 PM
At least you picked a good time of year. I've done it twice in Feb, never again. I'm getting too nesh for the extending wait for action at midnight in the snow  :(.
Title: Re: Stolen dogs on Wed.:
Post by: jaypo on August 17, 2022, 07:20:18 AM
Puppies ARE hard work no if's or buts,you must be prepared to have your life disrupted for a good few months until they settle but the rewards are worth it,my two poodle mix make me smile every day  :)
Title: Welcome to Barney :-))))
Post by: CLKD on August 17, 2022, 08:15:53 AM
Welcome to our thread :-)))

The cockerpoo next door is 7, time has flown.  She's a sweetie and loves me to bits  ;D

At Barney's age everything is new so has to be investigated, chewed, tasted, sniffed again - they need time to explore.  For a deaf dog I used a long lead so that he could wander but I maintained control.  U may find that a lead might be useful to keep him in check when training.  Enjoy, he'll drive you mad at times but will make you laugh too.   ;D
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: C.C. on August 17, 2022, 01:43:18 PM
Hi there!  :)
 
Welcome and hi to Barney :)

I have a new puppy as well, a 3-month-old Golden named Maggie. She's a joy and a brat all in one.  ;D  She is a lot of work, she's learning though and thank goodness she is sleeping through the night. She is goofy and funny and smart.  It's been an adjustment for sure, but every week seems to get easier as she learns.
If Barney is chewing up your house, I highly recommend Yak cheese sticks for him to gnaw on. They are as hard as a bone but made of Yak's milk cheese.  I can give one to Maggie and she will happily chew for at least 20 minutes while I do something else.  Any break is welcome!
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on August 17, 2022, 01:44:51 PM
Kongs filled with 'stuff' keep them occupied too.
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: C.C. on August 17, 2022, 03:15:02 PM
Kongs filled with 'stuff' keep them occupied too.

Frozen Kongs last longer.  ;D
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on August 17, 2022, 03:41:16 PM
Especially if they stay in the freezer  ;)
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: sheila99 on August 17, 2022, 10:31:32 PM
Get a pen of sheep - all day entertainment  :bounci:
You may have to swap your pup for a coolie though  :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on August 18, 2022, 08:39:41 AM
A collie even ?   However, a cockerpoo is more likely to blend in with the fleece and sleep the day away .........
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: jaypo on August 18, 2022, 11:08:51 AM
Sheila's been at the gin again  ;D
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on August 18, 2022, 11:56:36 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: sheila99 on August 18, 2022, 01:16:48 PM
Sheila's been at the gin again  ;D
Not quite enough sadly  :drunk:
Does my predictive text get prosecuted for being racist??
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on August 18, 2022, 02:08:07 PM
I can find work for a coolie  ;D
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: jaypo on August 18, 2022, 02:42:28 PM
Does she mean a coolieflower clkd? You just never know with Sheila  ;D
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on September 12, 2022, 08:32:24 AM
Reading this morning about the Queen's corgis it is evident that the 1st few that were given to the Palace are a lot different to the Pembrokeshire that is bred in recent years.  Known as 'ankle nippers' because they herded cattle on droves, to keep them moving the little dogs would rush in, nip the beasts' ankles then dash out of reach. 
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on September 12, 2022, 08:32:57 AM
groundhog - How is Barney settling ?
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: jaypo on September 12, 2022, 12:15:27 PM
Not keen on corgis at all,big dogs with short legs  ;D
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: C.C. on September 12, 2022, 01:45:42 PM
I think corgis are adooorrrrable!  There's one that walks past our house everyday (with his owner of course) and I love watching his little legs go a mile a minute to keep up ;D
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on September 12, 2022, 04:50:23 PM
C.C. - what colour ?  I met one recently for the 1st time in all the years of chasing dogs (long story short  ;D) and she was adorable. 
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: getting_old on September 12, 2022, 08:11:59 PM
I think there are different types of corgi, and they are very different in size. Is it Cardigan and Pembroke? Friends had one when I was young and it was massive. Legs were short but body was longer than mine at the time. The Queen's look a lot smaller, and I did meet one a few years ago that was also smaller. Have to say they're not my favourite breed.
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: groundhog on September 12, 2022, 10:05:50 PM
groundhog - How is Barney settling ?

He’s good thanks.  17 weeks tomorrow.  Sleeps ok but is up very early. I get up and then go back to bed, he tends to settle on settee u til my husband gets up.  We love him dearly, he’s funny , busy and hard bloomin work but I’m glad we had him x

Thanks for asking CLKD x
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: C.C. on September 13, 2022, 12:58:50 AM
C.C. - what colour ?  I met one recently for the 1st time in all the years of chasing dogs (long story short  ;D) and she was adorable.

He's a Pembroke corgi, white with light brown and he's floofy lol.
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on September 13, 2022, 09:18:50 AM
Cardigan corgis have tails traditionally and are found in different colours schemes, where as Pembrokes tend to be pale tan and white.  Some corgis are born stumpy.  The Queen's corgi met up illicitly with her sister's dachshund = "DDDorghi " which are smaller .......

Ankle nippers  ;D.

groundhog - he sounds delightful!  Is he over the chewing and peeing yet?
Title: Re: Welcome to Barney (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on October 10, 2022, 05:41:58 PM
AGAIN  :bang:

Inspectors found a range of animals, including 35 dogs, living in "appalling" conditions at a farm used for dog breeding.

Some of the animals had to be put to sleep following the visit to a farm in Whitchurch, Shropshire.

Alison Bransby was jailed for 22 weeks after admitting offences including breeding and selling puppies without a licence.

She admitted 17 welfare charges and was banned from keeping animals for life.

Her daughter, Kayleigh Bransby, also admitted nine offences at the hearing at Kidderminster Magistrates on 6 October and was given an 11-week jail term, suspended for 12 months.
Title: More puppy farming crimes
Post by: CLKD on November 29, 2022, 07:04:56 PM
Pretty cocker spaniels; a Great Dane bitch trying to deliver a litter; Akita and other large breeds - kept in stalls like horses.  Commercial breeding as 1 would breed chickens.  Pups left in baskets with no food/water  :'(. Many of these are advertised with high street Pets ........ shop.  As well as having KC registration even though the KC has never been to these premises.

That's 1 way to stop puppy farms, is for KC to visit every establishment, however: very view are registered with the LAs so breeding goes on  :-\
Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: jaypo on November 29, 2022, 07:36:35 PM
It'll never be stopped clkd,when I worked as a dispenser our lovely drug addicts all had staffies and used to get pups off them to sell down the pub so it gave them money for their drugs,so if they can do it easily,so can anyone
Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on November 29, 2022, 08:00:29 PM
Yep.  "Puppy Watch" was active in the 1980s ....... she and I worked together remotely - in that we never met - trying to warn people  :'(
Title: Dogs Behaving .......... (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on December 13, 2022, 07:54:15 PM
Watching Graham with a chocolate/tan Doberman and an American Bulldog - the Dobe doesn't wave her tail at all, even when getting treats  :-\ ???.  The Bully is quite friendly with other dogs though very boisterous, his tail wags.  He also slobbers.    They are play fighting in a field ......... not sure about that with 2 large dogs!

Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: jaypo on December 13, 2022, 08:08:51 PM
I'll never properly enjoy a walk with my dogs again,I'm on constant high alert watching if there are  loose dogs,when my little dog was attacked by a dog off a lead,will stay in my memory forever
Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on December 13, 2022, 09:56:16 PM
You are in a new area, try to relax.  As U go around especially as Spring arrives, you will meet more people with kids and dogs so you will get a 'feel' of how everyone reacts.  MayB find a local dog walker to find out?
Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: jaypo on December 14, 2022, 09:02:05 AM
Seems to be a decent village we're in,lots of people walk their dogs all ON leads,it's just when I go further afield,always watching all around me  :'(
Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on December 14, 2022, 09:12:52 AM
Is there a By-Law to state 'dogs on leads', if so it must be posted regularly across the area affected.

I would worry more about stranger danger until I got used to a place  ::)
Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on December 28, 2022, 01:26:16 PM
Did U C the American Bulldog pup with joint problems after birth, who has recovered in water therapy?  Happy dog now training in scent search for 'goodies' at Competition Level.
Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on January 01, 2023, 09:32:42 PM
Any1 read the news about a Crufts Judge taken to Court for not keeping his dogs in a satisfactory condition  :bang: as well as over breeding his bitches  :-\ :'( :o.  I will need to read the article again. 
Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on January 25, 2023, 11:08:38 AM
groundhog.  any news?
Title: dog breeds thread
Post by: CLKD on February 22, 2023, 09:45:30 AM
Bumped for new member  :scottie:
Title: Lung worm alert!
Post by: CLKD on May 09, 2023, 07:32:04 PM
Symptoms of a lungworm infestation for dogs can include: coughing; changes in breathing or struggling to breathe; going off food; upset stomach with vomiting and/or diarrhoea; weight loss; tiredness; unexplained or excessive bruising; pale gums; and bleeding.
Title: Taking snakes for a 'walk' in the Park
Post by: CLKD on June 18, 2023, 01:22:30 PM
Apparently an owner takes his constrictors for 'walks' in his local park. Boa out of control in a Public Place and how would he pick up after a 'dump'  :o >:(  :-X
Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: Songbird on June 18, 2023, 01:37:04 PM
Blimey, I imagine the little doggies that use the park will steer clear of a blinkin boa constrictor 😬…..
The thought of popping the contents of a boa’s stomach into my little pink poop bag fills me with  :sick02:   Can you imagine? A fully formed deceased mouse would have to be picked up 😖🙀
Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: jaypo on June 18, 2023, 01:39:24 PM
Just off to take the snake for a slither round the park dear  ;D
Blimey my little chihuahua would be a snack for it 🙀
Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on June 18, 2023, 02:21:24 PM
As I have written to the Council concerned: "reptiles can move. FAST. when they want to.  A small child or dog would be seen as a snack  " .......... as well as the picking up issue.  I await a response  :D.  Also, what if the snake decided to shin up a tree, what would the owner do.  Apparently he takes 20+ reptiles at a time  :o.  And with 'no mow May' .........  ;D

There's a lizard-type critter loose in Cumbria by the name of 'Echo'.  Apparently it runs on it's hind legs  :o
Title: Re: More puppy farming crimes [Welcome to Barney] (dog breeds thread)
Post by: CLKD on July 19, 2023, 08:35:41 PM
Did any1 see the photos and videos of over 500 goldies gathered for a week in Scotland to celebrate the breed  ?  How did they get all those to sit still for any length of time  ;D
Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: C.C. on July 21, 2023, 12:24:06 PM
I saw one photo, it was amazing to see so many Maggies in one place! :love:
Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: CLKD on July 21, 2023, 12:56:15 PM
Great.  There is a video link which shows them all sitting quite nicely  ;D ?? photoshopped ?? and 1 appears to be barking
Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: jaypo on July 23, 2023, 07:18:06 PM
Another chilled mauled by a bully XL apparently,thankfully not killed but that's 9 deaths in two years by this breed and of course let's not forget the endless small dogs they've killed too  >:(
Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: CLKD on July 23, 2023, 07:50:03 PM
I hadn't seen that.  There's an article in the papers yesterday and on the News about why these incidents happen more in the Summer.  It's up to adults to keep children away from puppies etc. .......... people forget the strength that these larger breeds cause, the grip per bite.  Then someone shouts and the animal grips harder. 

So sad. 
Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: Taz2 on July 23, 2023, 11:52:30 PM
Another chilled mauled by a bully XL apparently,thankfully not killed but that's 9 deaths in two years by this breed and of course let's not forget the endless small dogs they've killed too  >:(

Our neighbours have one of those. Beautiful dog but weighs 60kg already and not fully grown. So powerful. It does depend so much on how they are treated. They are seen as status dogs by many and trained to attack.

Taz  :(
Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: jaypo on July 24, 2023, 06:59:41 AM
Blimey Taz,do be careful,make sure when it's an adult it can't get into your garden. Some dogs are bred specifically for fighting and why anyone would want one I've no idea,our German Shepherd was a very big dog,brilliant guard dog but the soppiest dog you could ever meet,why some men need these dogs says a lot and let's face it,the majority of owners are men.
Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: CLKD on July 24, 2023, 08:39:27 AM
Backstreet breeders.  Dogs kept in small areas of concrete  :-\ :'(.  Never socialised  :'(

It is the legal requirement for the house owner to make sure that hedges/fencing is secure around the property.  It's difficult these days to find out who actually owns which part of the hedge/fence .......... years ago it was that the person with the fence and not the posts owned that section.  If posts are on 'your side', the fence is the responsibility of the neighbours.
Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: Taz2 on July 24, 2023, 11:21:16 AM
This one is very well cared for and loved. He has been socialised since he was a puppy and has twice weekly training sessions with a wonderful woman with experience of the breed. His ears aren't cropped which is good to see and he comes from a reputable breeder. However, he is so boisterous that it is off putting especially when the only stories you see in the press are when an American Bully XL has attacked someone. He does look daft when he is left in the house while his owner puts the bins out as he stands in the lounge, with his front paws on the window sill and the net curtain draped over his head, howling so mournfully as if he's been left for hours. I always keep the gate into our back garden closed ever since my cat was attacked by a staffie. Again, another breed which gets good and bad reviews.  :-\

Taz x
Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: CLKD on July 24, 2023, 11:55:24 AM
Dogs are bred to chase.  I've never met a bad Staffie ............ we have a rehomed mix-ed staffie with several other bull breeds which is walked with a muzzle.  Some days he's friendly in his approach to me, others he isn't interested in communicating.  His head goes down and he hides behind his owner's legs  ::)

Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: jaypo on July 24, 2023, 12:25:16 PM
This is what I find sad,IF this breed IS banned,the owners who are good decent owners have to have their dog destroyed,I remember it happening with the pit bulls.
When I worked as a pharmacy dispenser,every other drug addict who came in for their methadone had a staffie,apparently lovely dogs,in the right hands,sadly these weren't in the right hands  :'(
Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: CLKD on September 10, 2023, 03:11:42 PM
More than 100 golden retrievers brought “complete doggy mayhem” to a Sussex lido in what is thought to be the biggest dog swim event in the UK.


On Saturday, "Dogtember" began at Saltdean Lido in Brighton - a series of swim sessions for both dogs and people over four weekends.


One organiser said about 8,000 dogs and people would take part in the 40 sessions.

Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: Penguin on September 10, 2023, 03:18:21 PM
More than 100 golden retrievers brought “complete doggy mayhem” to a Sussex lido in what is thought to be the biggest dog swim event in the UK.


On Saturday, "Dogtember" began at Saltdean Lido in Brighton - a series of swim sessions for both dogs and people over four weekends.


One organiser said about 8,000 dogs and people would take part in the 40 sessions.

That's near us and we missed it! Mind you, my pup hasn't taken to swimming at all, not like my previous dogs.
Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: CLKD on September 10, 2023, 03:58:36 PM
I love Brighton!

My cocker wouldn't wade any deeper than her ankles  ;D and would worry about other dogs that were swimming  ::)
Title: Re: Dog breeds ........
Post by: CLKD on September 12, 2023, 05:04:41 PM
Downpours in Cumbria on Sunday led to a deluge of water hitting Eden Animal Rescue at Temple Sowerby, near Penrith.

Dog beds and blankets are among items the organisation urgently needs, manager Sarah Bean said.

Cumbria Fire and Rescue Service said a band of heavy rain had "swept through the county" with Ulverston, Windermere and Penrith particularly hit.
Title: Re: Bedding required - C below [Dog breeds ]
Post by: CLKD on October 03, 2023, 12:08:23 PM
A 6 legged spaniel has been found in a bin, heard by a passer by: guessed by Vets at 15-16 weeks old.  Also has two vulvas, so maybe a conjoined twin part of which was absorbed by the little dog.  She's in care of fosterers B4 decisions are made about surgical intervention  :-\.  Why? 
Title: Re: Bedding required - C below [Dog breeds ]
Post by: Limpy on October 03, 2023, 02:43:31 PM
A 6 legged spaniel has been found in a bin, heard by a passer by: guessed by Vets at 15-16 weeks old.  Also has two vulvas, so maybe a conjoined twin part of which was absorbed by the little dog.  She's in care of fosterers B4 decisions are made about surgical intervention :-\.  Why?

What are you questioning CLKD - Do you feel that surgical intervention goes without saying?
If so what type - curative or euthanasia?
Or are you questioning how it happens at all?
Title: Seasonal get 2gether LOL [Dog breeds ]
Post by: CLKD on December 21, 2023, 04:17:33 PM

Dozens of dogs in Newcastle don Christmas jumpers for walk


Newcastle dog owners and their pets were feeling the cheer as they strutted out in their most festive knitwear.

For the second year, dog walkers Jess Fox and Hound organised the Christmas Jumper Dog Walk as a fundraiser for charity Street Paws.

"We just get dogs dressed up in Christmas jumpers, do a great walk around Ouseburn, and just make sure the dogs and ourselves have a great time," said Jess Littlefair.
Title: Re: Bedding required - C below [Dog breeds ]
Post by: Taz2 on December 30, 2023, 07:13:47 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-tyne-67777824

Taz  ::)
Title: Re: Bedding required - C below [Dog breeds ]
Post by: CLKD on December 30, 2023, 07:15:38 PM
 :thankyou:  I wouldn't have dressed ours up. 
Title: Dogs Behaving V badly [Dog breeds ]
Post by: CLKD on February 20, 2024, 08:31:29 PM
Pomeranian - fed by hand after the food has been chewed by a human.   :o it's a bundle of attention seeking fluff. 
Title: Re: Bedding required - C below [Dog breeds ]
Post by: jaypo on February 21, 2024, 08:16:37 AM
There's a YouTube video where a man puts the dogs food down in front of it,dog sniffs it,no interest,the man then proceeds to pretend to do stuff to it,adding salt and pepper,into the fridge,pretending to poor milk over it,stirring it,gives it to the dog and the dog eats it,he says he's to do this every time or the dog just won't eat it  ;D
Title: Re: Bedding required - C below [Dog breeds ]
Post by: CLKD on February 21, 2024, 10:09:53 AM
 ;D. who's in charge  ???    Grahame sorted it, within about an hour  :D

Title: Re: Bedding required - C below [Dog breeds ]
Post by: jaypo on February 21, 2024, 11:08:02 AM
I don't find him to have much personality, used to LOVE watching Cesar Millan with his big soppy pit bull  ;D
Title: Re: Bedding required - C below [Dog breeds ]
Post by: SarahT on February 21, 2024, 11:10:28 AM
Jaypo,

Don't let my cats know but I do this to them too! Once they have disdainfully turned their noses up at the expensive offerings,I get one of the madly expensive time out and pretend to scoop some on top.... Sometimes works but I Sometimes have to actually open the to and use as a topper.

And CLKD? Whose in charge? Definitely not me. 😾🙀
Title: Re: Bedding required - C below [Dog breeds ]
Post by: CLKD on February 21, 2024, 11:12:27 AM
 :rofl:   DH certainly knew where he was in the pecking order: Me,  :scottie: and 3  :cat88: :cat48: :catscratch:
Title: Re: Bedding required - C below [Dog breeds ]
Post by: jaypo on February 21, 2024, 11:22:42 AM
Jaypo,

Don't let my cats know but I do this to them too! Once they have disdainfully turned their noses up at the expensive offerings,I get one of the madly expensive time out and pretend to scoop some on top.... Sometimes works but I Sometimes have to actually open the to and use as a topper.

And CLKD? Whose in charge? Definitely not me. 😾🙀

 ;D Brilliant Sarah,yep,I'm not in charge either,my OH sometimes has to sit on the other sofa because our 3 little dogs are sprawled out next to me 😂
Title: Re: Bedding required - C below [Dog breeds ]
Post by: SarahT on February 21, 2024, 11:53:54 AM
Oh. Is that not normal in every household then? Haha.

 I have been known to sit on the floor if our sofa has been full of a dog and two cats and husband squeezed into the remaining space.... See CLKD, I ( sometimes) put my husband slightly up in the pecking order. ;D just to keep him sweet.
Title: Re: Bedding required - C below [Dog breeds ]
Post by: CLKD on February 21, 2024, 01:00:29 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Haemoragghic disease warnings
Post by: CLKD on February 26, 2024, 07:55:32 PM
Do keep your dogs out of flowing water due to the possibility of sewage over flow = disease.  If your pet develops D/V within hours of the last exercise, take him/her to the Vet immediately. 
Title: Re: Haemoragghic disease warnings
Post by: jaypo on February 26, 2024, 08:17:23 PM
My dogs don't "do" wet feet  ;D
Title: Re: Haemoragghic disease warnings
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2024, 09:26:44 AM
Mine would go in up to her ankles  :D
Title: Re: Haemoragghic disease warnings
Post by: jaypo on February 27, 2024, 11:19:24 AM
I used to own a Hungarian Viszla,she even had webbed feet but she wouldn't so much as out a toe in the water  ;D
Title: Re: Haemoragghic disease warnings
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2024, 01:03:25 PM
 ;D.  Lots of water breeds have webbed feet. 
Title: Re: Haemoragghic disease warnings
Post by: jaypo on February 27, 2024, 02:30:08 PM
So should love water........nope  ;D
Title: Re: Haemoragghic disease warnings
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2024, 03:04:19 PM
Or they won't come out  ;D - can U imagine a house full of Newfies  :o  :D
Title: Re: Haemoragghic disease warnings
Post by: jaypo on February 27, 2024, 04:16:48 PM
Oh no no no,couldn't cope with them,once saw a man at the vets with THREE St.Bernards,all drooling and smelly  ;D
Title: Re: Haemoragghic disease warnings
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2024, 04:52:40 PM
Well bred dogs don't need to droll.  It became 'common' in the 1980s when breeders tried to get a 'better' head shape.  Gt Danes, most of the larger herding breeds, all affected.  Even the Lab pup; used to make my guts churn.  Spinones are known for it, apparently one can paste walls B4 applying wall paper  :o :-X. Which is why I didn't buy one.

Some breeds had heads totally out of proportion with the body mass.  In the Show ring  :-\.  Judges obviously not reading the Standards!!! 

Title: Re: Haemoragghic disease warnings
Post by: jaypo on February 27, 2024, 06:23:48 PM
Can't stand anything to do with crufts and the like,they should be ashamed of themselves.
My boxer rarely drooled but if she shook her head after a drink? You needed a brolly and plastic Mac  ;D
Title: Re: Haemoragghic disease warnings
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2024, 06:43:16 PM
 ;D