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General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: Judith57 on November 25, 2014, 09:21:32 PM
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Am I the only one totally confused by this......?
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I was totally confused tonight so when you have watched it perhaps you could explain it to me ;D. We will need to issue a spoiler alert though...
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I am watching it... well, trying to! ! I find it terribly confusing and I wish I had never started watching it, but it has me hooked.
I love James Nesbitt and saw his interview for it ages ago. He spoke very passionately about it
I just hope it does not end with no conclusion as these things do sometimes
Each week seems very slow until the last ten minutes! To keep you gripped for next week I guess....its working on me!
Must have been exhausting watching several sparkle ??? (http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php???)
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I have watched it from the outset and I am confused. My husband usually brings me up to speed on things ( as I am invariably on here whilst watching which drives him nuts), but he finds it boring so isn't watching ( sulking ).
So yes I am confused tonight and would welcome some clarification. The bit I don't get is the involvement of the girl who had her throat cut when the boy first went missing ( lovely - sorry if tmi).
I am enjoying it tho in a terrified sort of way - total nightmare :(
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Sorry groundhog, that part lost me too! I have no idea who she was or her involvment
would be great if any ladies watching it could interpret and explain please ::) (http://::))
I got very lost with the little girls Mum and which year we were in
Did he kill the man on the boat? At the very least he is going to have one hell of a headache!!
Gripping. PN ??? (http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php???)
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I'm gripped by this drama, though haven't watched tonight's episode yet. Yes, I find the ju!ping back & forth confusing. Took me to last week to work out some bits of it.
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I'm watching it too and it is quite deep. I'm using the hairstyles to tell what year they're in. I'm not 100% sure but I think the young girl is the sister of one of the members of the Romanian smuggling gang. The undercover police officer sent to cover them befriended her, was rumbled and then had his throat slashed on the seat at the railwaystation.
She was a drug addict and the french policeman, whose own daughter has battled drug problems 'saved her', put her through cold turkey and brought her out the other side. She is a teacher now. She had her throat slashed, I think, because she was also rumbled for talking. Garrett, the man with the boat was not killed as we see him, with his wife, on the boat in the Indian Ocean. The bit that confused me was when, last night, Victor Bourg visited Garrett's wife on both the boat and what looked like a hospital. I think she has a guilty secret! (my theory at the moment, is that she has done something to little Oliver Hughes so that her husband could not get to him - far fetched I know!) I also dont trust the British liaison officer who Emily Hughes is with in the present day. That's my interpretation and I may be completely wrong, but enjoying it anyways. I like to play detective.
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Brilliant holidaylover, that has bought it nicely together in my mind.
Thank you!
I am even more intrigued now. I wonder if you are right ;) (http://;))
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I think Hughes has killed Garrett - Garretts wife was dreaming all about being on a boat (the life she really wanted with her husband) while in hospital -dreaming Bourg was on the boat too -she has been driven 'over the edge' by her husband's activities.
Hadn't thought that she might have protected the little boy - think you are right Holidaylover.
Think there is more involvement with the Romanian gang too - involving the other rogue policeman and the Mayor.
I found last night more confusing than other episodes - certainly a different way of filming with hairstyles changing rapidly etc - I may ring my son up - he had to explain the Matrix to me several times ;D
Hattie X
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holiday lover I totally agree with your explanation re Rini, the Romanian girl.
However regarding Victor Borg, I understood the scenes with Garrett's wife to be in his wife's disturbed mind, the scenes on the boat were her escape from reality as she was in a psychiatric hospital. The male nursing attendant in her hospital room was the same attendant who was serving her on the boat and the name plate from the boat was fixed to the foot of her bed.
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Aaah, now I never saw it that way, but I get it now. I'm also a wee bit confused regarding the British Reporter that crops up now and again. Do you think he knows something we don't yet? There will be a few more twists and turns before the end though I imagine. We don't know yet how the French Detective got his limp, do we? or have I missed that?
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No we don't know how Julien got his limp but Tony referred to it when they met up in the present day indicating it happened in 2006.
there is also Malik Suri and his associate referring to some plan, I forget the name. It is very cryptic and impossible to second guess.
I need to watch with subtitles otherwise I can't follow or understand anything with the different languages and accents (French, English, Romanian, Irish (I don't find James Nesbitt easy to understand) .
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Thanks for starting this Judith57 - it is proving to be very helpful to me
Wow BJ - you are very observant - the male attendant and the boat name - impressive detective work! ;) (http://;))
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I watch a lot of Miss Marple and Midsomer Murders purplenanny ;)
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Well it is coming in very useful with The Missing BJ ;D (http://;D)
Maybe a write up every Tuesday? ;) (http://;))
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I LOVE James Nesbitt but the theme seemed too co-incidental to the Madeline McCann story. Also I want entertaining!
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Many have said that CLKD, but only in that a child has disappeared. Same could be said of other child disappearances.
I'm gripped, watched last night's episode earlier. I think, like with many of these dramas, that there are quite a few red herrings in there to throw us off-track. 3 more episodes to go.
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Crikey, what a can of worms I opened ;D. I haven't read all the posts yet but I am slightly more enlightened now by the review in The Times today, they clearly make the point that the Ken Stott character's wife has dementia or has gone gaga in some way and is in hospital and the Indian Ocean sequences are in her imagination, that makes sense as the steward on the boat also seems to be the nurse. I think James Nesbitt has killed Ken Stott. Actually, the more I think about it now, the more it does make sense, the French paedophile was on the coach going to Oxford to visit her in hospital but I was totally confused last night when he also popped up on the yacht in the Indian Ocean.
Sorry if that is TMI for anyone who may not have watched it yet. I will read all your views now ;D
Hattie, at least it is a change from posting about pelvic pain :-\
xxxx
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I have just read all your posts, thank you everyone! I think we need to nominate BabyJane as our designated 'explainer' as soon as an episode has aired....
She certainly gets my vote!
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Judith57
Sure is ! - (i did pick up on one episode though that Julien said he was no longer in pain with his leg after the time interval since 2006) - there is hope. :)
Hattie X
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Well done for picking up on that Hattie, there is hope then ;)
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noooo, can't take the pressure, but it's lovely that others watch and discuss this too. I will look forward to following this thread :)
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Well I will concentrate very hard next week but I can't promise I won't be asking you what on earth was going on :-\
I wasn't very impressed that James Nesbitt slept with that artist while his wife was away in England by the way >:(
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Was that now or then Judith57? :-\
Gripping stuff but totally confused.
I hope it doesn't end with us still guessing.
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:rofl: That was 'then' I think because his wife still had the short hair when she caught the train to London. I could be wrong though and it might be 'now', I might have blinked and missed a shift between then and now :-\
BabyJane help....
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Oh heck, I thought that was now. Arghhhhhhhhhhh ;D
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I usually have to watch it twice lol. I have to concentrate so much the first time and invariably get confused about something. We record it, so I then watch it again a few days later to work out the complicated bits - or at least to try to.
I can't quite work out the role of the other French policeman - the dark haired one who had a chat with the journalist a few episodes ago. The journalist seemed to have a hold on him. Does anyone else know who I mean?
And I also wonder about Emily's new husband.
Also one other puzzling conversation - Emily talking to the journalist in a cafe/bar/restaurant about Tony being back in France and I'm sure she said she was afraid that he would discover 'what we did'.
Very puzzling, very complex - and very very gripping.
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You may be right but I thought he phoned his wife and asked what time she would be back and then we saw him leave the girl in her bed. I think I had better have a look on the old i-player ???
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No it was "now" (that he slept with her!) because when he got back to meet the Romanian woman and the 'French detective - they asked where he'd been - that was definitely both of them in the present day. I can't remember why he picked her up (or rather vice versa) but he had just come from hearing some bad news (that would be a clue to whether it was now or then) and sat about looking miserable!
I'm pretty hopeless at following things and my husband hates me asking questions - but I did get the bit about the dream though ;D
There were also hints a few episodes back that Tony has done more than he let on and that police know - so presumably that means killing the guy in the boat which we've now seen, we think?
Hurdity x
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Oh yes Scriv, there was that conversation between Emily and the journalist, more to come out I guess...
Hurdity, I was wondering whether the body of Ken Stott was ever found though because they said last week that he had disappeared and recently been declared dead, I assumed then that James Nesbitt got rid of the body....and therefore is not implicated....
I was trying to remember whether it was after he left the sleeping woman that he said his phone had run out of battery - you are right, it is the present day :)
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How funny! This thread is becoming as confusing as the programme ;D (http://;D)
I am just so pleased I am not the only one having trouble with it. Certainly is gripping though! :o :o (http://:o :o)
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Well who knows - he must have got rid of it somehow very cleverly (will all be revealed next week?), as well as the blood-stained boat and wouldn't his wife have wondered - although she didn't know where he was? Actually when I think about it, it does seem rather far-fetched - but then - that's a crime drama for you!
Hurdity x
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Who is Vincent Bourg's mother that Garret said he wouldn't harm ??? Is she Garret's present wife who has 'married again' to Garret ?
Hattie X
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??? (http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php???) oh crikey, I had forgotten that bit!!!!!! :neutral: (http://:neutral:)
I do hope things all get wrapped up satisfactorily at the end and we are not left guessing!
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Intriguing! So hope it all falls into place before the end.
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Who is Vincent Bourg's mother that Garret said he wouldn't harm ??? Is she Garret's present wife who has 'married again' to Garret ?
Hattie X
Oooh, now there's a thought. Explaining maybe why he went to see Mrs Garrett and talked about having promises to keep? Ooooh....
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Seems we're all gripped ladies.
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I had forgotten that Ken Stott is such a good actor. We don't see enough of him on TV - unless I watch the wrong channels ???, never seem to stray far from the beeb I'm afraid...
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He is a good actor, appears in quite a few Scottish dramas/films.
Here's a list of what he's done do far.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0832792/
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I think that we are being thrown a lot of loose ends that will, over the next three episodes, gradually get tied up. I am not sure it is possible to work it out as just when you think you have worked something out the goalposts move. If I try to work too much out I go cross eyed and then can't see the screen :o.
It does remind me a little of The Honourable Woman (which I didn't watch but my husband did) in the way it weaves a web of intrigue.
I suppose an 8 week series has to have more content than a 4 or 6 week one and I think that is what we have here.
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If anyone is interested there is a discussion thread on digital spy about The Missing with quite a lot of good theories and interesting points.
Here is one I copied
Regarding Monique (the woman Tony slept with), I think she will have nothing to do with the disappearance of Ollie, but rather, everything to do with the breakdown of Tony and Emily's marriage.
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If Tony really killed Garret, how come he's not locked up? Surely he'd be first person they'd question as he was insistent on Garret being behind Ollie's disappearance. Unless of course Tony was having a dream.
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with another 3 weeks left I think there is a lot we still don't know.
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We'll have to see Cubagirl but I was under the impression that Garret 'disappeared' a few years ago and had recently been declared dead in the absence of a body. In which case if there is no body there is no proof but I guess there is a lot to still come out, I can't wait!
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Oh yes, think you're correct there. Obviously got that to come yet.
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Why is Vincent Bourg now living in England rather than France ? is there a reason ?
Hattie X
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Our family of four are absolutely gripped by this brilliant series. It's great to have something that we all sit down together and avidly watch. Can't wait to find out what happens next!
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Also, has anyone got any theories as to why the detective is now in jail in France?.....Surely it must be linked?
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Didn't Julien say something this week about knowing something about this detective - he sent him off searching while the others were at the train station to get him out of the way.
Hattie X
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Now I've missed something - what detective, who? what? where? ???
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The shorter dark, swarthy looking detective who was on the disappearance case at the beginning.
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I can't quite work out the role of the other French policeman - the dark haired one who had a chat with the journalist a few episodes ago. The journalist seemed to have a hold on him. Does anyone else know who I mean?
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Yes, the one I mention here........ Remember he was watched by the man in the cleaning van (Karl Slig or something) as they were searching for evidence?
I watched it again last night and am also wondering whether Garrett died when Tony beat him up and he chucked him overboard?
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on again tonight - is it really possible to pull a shirt out of concrete after 8 years ?
Hattie X
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Isn't he the one who attacked 'what's is name' (main detective, can't remember his name), in his car and damaged his leg? If it is that's probably why he has been in jail. But then again, perhaps it was not him???????
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What a cliffhanger....and hacking into voicemail, very topical!
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I think the fat slobby man (at the hotel) has something to do with it. We keep seeing him in shot but nothing much more. I wonder if he is connected to the new evidence?
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Well, he was the owner of the sobriety coin which has been presented as the missing evidence. He is the owner of the hotel (same surname as the Mayor of the town!?),and his wife has given Tony this information in a previous episode. I can't understand how a coin would be brought up so easily from a drain. I also don't trust the British police liaison officer. I am wondering, if he perhaps is involved in some way and has swapped the evidence he gained from Malik, just to throw Tony onto a new trail. I'm sure we saw the hotel owner being arrested on the trailer for next week? Tonight, I am starting to wonder about Tony's wife and Oliver's mother. She seems a bit iffy to me, but that could just be down to bad acting!
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I'm also wondering about the permanently broken TV in room seven. Perhaps it's not working for a reason, that being it has a hidden camera to spy on the guests??
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Wow! you are real detectives!! I am obviously not paying enough attention as I seem to be missing (no pun intended) vital clues! ::) (http://::))
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clues or red herrings, I wonder ::)
Husband read that there have been several endings filmed and even the cast don't know which one will be screened.
All I hope is that it has a definitive ending and we aren't left wondering....... ???
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The hotel owners wife also gave Oliver's picture back to Tony when she showed him the coin - the picture in the basement could have been drawn by someone not Oliver to leave a clue along with Oliver's scarf.
wonder who makes the decision as to how it ends - must be a responsibility - some of the subject matter is a bit sick.
Hattie X
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Dont worry sparkle I am hopeless at these things and annoy my husband by asking questions all the time - I wouldn't be a good detective! Can't even remember the coin at all nor who gave back the drawing! I must be thinking of something else while I'm watching ...
Hurdity x
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I was wondering about the mother of Oliver too.
She seems to acting strange.............
I hope the ending doesn't finish on a cliff hanger.
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There was a clue. Mainly parents involved in disappearances! Or was that a red herring. Oh it had better not be a cliffhanger!
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Can somebody please remind me about the coin, I can't remember seeing it before...
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I don't remember coin either. I remember the drawing being given to Tony though.
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Thanks for asking the question Judith...I didn't like to ask! Pleased its not just me! ;) (http://;))
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:) hopefully someone will be along to remind us soon....anyone??
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I've looked up the signicance of the coin. I remember now.
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Where did you look it up?
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I looked up "significance of coin in The Missing". Came up under spoiler in Radio Times.
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Thank you! I just looked it up, I remember it now vaguely.
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Yeah it was one of those moments that didn't seem to be significant, but maybe it was! All will be revealed in last episode, hopefully.
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As a totally wild guess I'm going for the man who owns the hotel where James Nesbitt stays.
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I read somewhere that there is a possibility of another series - maybe it won't conclude as the ratings have been high for this.
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Just found this which made me laugh - someone has posted elsewhere saying
"This is what is going to happen if we don't find out what happens to Oliver next week"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4c5MKBCUAACN9G.jpg)
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;D
What I've read this series will have closure! Fingers crossed.
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I am so interested in this drama, can't wait for next episode. Have also just watched the honour of christopher Jeffries it was amazing
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Christopher Jeffries was brilliant Millykin.
He played the part well ( can't remember the actors name but he also stars in the comedy
'Trollied' on sky)
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Dyan
Jason Watkins, ye I've watched that comedy, love it. He was brilliant acting the part, couldn't move was so engrossed!
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:thankyou:millykin X
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Oh please... where have we seen that coin before?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2872459/Whodunit-Missing-prepares-thrilling-climax-CHRISTOPHER-STEVENS-turns-detective-try-bottom-smash-hit-kidnap-TV-series-gripped-nation.html
found this.. hope the link works ::) (http://::))
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Just read the article purplenanny, very interesting. There were over 660 comments as well, I didn't read them but this series has obviously got a lot of us hooked ::)
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I realise the clue is in the title - The Missing, Not The Missing Boy or The Missing Child but The Missing.
With the poster of all the missing children I rather think that Tony and Emily's search over the years, scratching away at the surface is finally going to reaveal what happened to the Missing children including Olly.
just over 48 hours to wait now
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I know, can't wait, I hope I don't get totally confused by the ending though ::)
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That'll be why another series is planned.
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Not long now ladies, I hope we are not disappointed :D
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Loved the ending can't wait for next series!
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So do we assume that poor Tony just cannot accept that Oliver has been killed and carries on his search all over Russia and it has driven him mad...... ?
How powerful!!
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Very clever writing. Keeping the viewers intrigued
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I think you are right Scriv, he is searching all over Russia and has gone a bit mad. I would have preferred to have it all tied up tonight I think ???
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Me too!
But I'm glad the ending wasn't disappointing.
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And there will be another series - with a new case. I wonder if it will be a totally new cast? I just adore Julien!
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Are we led to believe that Oliver is still alive by the drawing on the window?
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Judith, the drawing on the window was done by Tony - he went insane searching for Olly.
Such gripping stuff - I was close to tears when we found out how Olly was murdered - and to see Tony in such a state as he was taken away in the police car.
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We did not pick up on the ending so we looked it up and will watch the ending again as we recorded it just in case this happened. For anyone else who didn't 'get it' this fills in the blanks.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2876862/The-Missing-truly-brilliant-whodunnit-chilling-final-twist-CHRISTOPHER-STEVENS-reviews.html
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Ok that makes sense now. James Nesbitt acted his part so well. I see an award coming his way....
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Gripping stuff.