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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: moonbeam121167 on March 17, 2014, 03:40:41 PM
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Hi all me again, can anyone tell me if there is link between low estrogen and stomach problems, been changed to Esomperazole 40mg been on them for a month but last night I woke up feeling sick and had a bad hot flush as well, the consultant last Friday do think I could have low levels and was wondering or even hoping that if he does increase it it may help my stomach, the new pills, Esomperazole dont seem to help, I dont eat wheat, on lactose free milk, feeling really crap today, :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Nausea can be the immediate sign of a flush ……… awful :-\
Have a 'search' for IBS on here …….
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Thats what I thought, its just I have got to wait weeks for the consultant to write to my GP , not sure if the bloods will come back in saying too high or too low but I do stick to a IBS diet, no wheat, lactose free , no cauliflower, sprouts, onions spices and so forth , I take probiotic and I have been taking for this last few weeks Magnesium for my headaches, the consultant said it sounds like my estrogen is low and before he puts me on Testosterone he needs to sort out the HRTx
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Isn't Testosterone HRT ;D - maybe men don't see it that way ::)
Maybe eat a little more often? To keep food moving through the 'system'? You could also up or change the pro-biotic.
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No testosterone isnt HRT and not all women need it or not all specialist give it but the one I saw does and said he will give it if needed, not sure were to stop the magnesium for abit and as you say up the prob-biotics, do think upping the HRT will up but I will up to wait and see x
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Testosterone won't be prescribed without oestrogen, so your consultant is right to check. I've just started oestrogen, before starting testosterone. If low oestrogen contributes to IBS, it will be interesting to see whether mine improves.
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Ju Ju not sure if it does but I have been on 3 different PPI for around 14 months and still no let up, he thinks my estrogen is low but he cant be sure until the blood test comes back, my stomach is not right and I am have constant burning and I feel sick off and on today, last nights hot flush was really bad, hoping big time I will be able to increase the HRT and I will feel really good :)
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Hormone upheaval can cause awful nausea, I know how sick I felt during my menstruating years ……. also The Pill made me vomit …….
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I have been to a Gastro consultant and all she said is I could have IBS, gave me a diet for which I do and that was that , I had a endoscope and that said I have a irritated stomach and that was a yr ago but still no let up, I have had 4 blood test results come back and all 4 say I have raised liver enzymes, what that means I dont know , could it be the HRT thats causing the problem in its self cause if it was I cant give it up cause the menopause symptoms I had were so bad I couldnt deal with that, just dont know what to do !!
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You could ask to try a patch form of HRT as it has less gastro side effects.
I do find that HRT has helped my IBS a lot.
Honeyb
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I also meant to say that gall bladder problems can cause raised liver enzymes. Have you tried a low fat diet and also the supplement Milk Thistle is good for general liver support.
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You need to speak to your GP and ask what 'raised liver enzymes' means exactly. Stomach lining can be irritated for many reasons. Irritable bowel syndrome is more about 'bowel' than higher up in the system. Mine is made worse by stress and eased by 'actimel' type product regularly ……….. and once my gut is irritated I suffer :sigh:
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I have been on the patch since 9th Jan '14, Estradot 50mcg, I dont eat hardly any chocolate, dont eat wheat and on a lactose free diet as well. Have been supposedly referred to a liver doctor , I have my gallbladder checked last yr and that was fine, also waiting to have a camera to check my lower colon, hoping is the HRT specialist will increase my HRT it will help but there is not guarantee he will but he says it sounds like I could do with an increase, all I want is for things to get sorted, had my hysterectomy on 27th Dec'12 and it took me 13 months to see a HRT clinic, 3 different PPI's and now Esomperazole which so has not helped, not sure what else to do, coming off HRT is not a option, I just want to feel good
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Are you sure you are eating right things Moonbeam remembering that 3/4 of what you eat during your day ought to be vegetables and fruit? Which kind of IBS do you have? I remember eating lots of dried apricots than and drinking Fybrogel..
.. I had IBS for years but funny enough it's gone, I think with meno. I can't even remember when really but remember that because of it I became very aware of what I eat - meno increased various allergies too to additives and preservatives particularly in ready meals or any processed foods - so plain food, preferably steamed, is my ideal dinner meal my body works best after. I eat porridge with milk every morning too since I was diagnosed at age of 29. I avoid restaurants now like hell because their food usually makes my stomach and whole body so uncomfortable. Eating plain works best for me.
Best, :)
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I have porridge for breaky or crunchy nut , bananas, was told not to eat apples, I eat apricots, I have been told not to eat cauli or sprouts so I have stoppped, I do eat very bland foods, use like a tikka Marsala but dont eat it no more, i eat only gluten free bread, I have no problems going to the toilet, sometimes I go to much but it isnt diarrhea , really dont know what else to do ,the consultant just gave me a small leaflet on IBS and sent me home ???
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Well, if you have no problems why were you told you have IBS, I am puzzled now..
IBS is about such problems. If yours is just about bloating than, well, this is how it gets at this stage in our life. Sensitivity increases with age, tired by all rubbish we ate before since we were born.
You have now reminded me about a time when I went to gastrologist, at ca 46, and complained that my stomach is no longer flat - he told me to check my birthday date in my passport. I now think this was very funny ;D
Take care! :-*
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What symptoms of IBS do you have as feeling sick generally is not one of them. Bloating ,cramping, constipation and the runs are very common.
I understand you have stomach problems but it could be something other than IBS.
One of the side effects of the pills you are taking is nausea.
Have you tried a more natural approach.
Start with your diet making it very bland. Perhaps try a good pro biotic. Other alternatives such as slippery elm and aloe Vera are very soothing.
It might be a good time to try something different.
Honeyb
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Do be careful. I had similar symptoms to you , which I took for IBS. It went on for weeks and then I became very ill with terrible back and stomach pain and feeling sick. Nearly got my husband up to take me to A&E in the middle of the night I felt so bad. Saw my GB on a emergency appointment next day and it turned out to be an upper urinary tract infection. He said I must have had it for sometime and results confirmed multiple bugs. You don't always get burning wee, especially if it's sited more towards the kidneys and a runny tummy is often a symptom. Try peeing into an old jam jar. If your wee is cloudy you have probably got an infection.
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However: constant nausea and a feeling of going to be sick was my main symptom. Due to being anorexic-type my gut spasm had stopped almost completely over a period of months so no food was being passed through my system; consequently if I was hungry if I ate/drank then the sickness was there as nothing was moving ……. fortunately my Very Good GP gave me Colpermin and Motillium which helped ease symptoms.
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I do eat a bland diet, I take a good probiotic, I dont have bloating or server diarrhea or constipation, I dont believe its IBS , my endoscopy showed a irritated stomach but I thought after a year on PPI it would be healing but it is not, it all started around the time I found the large fibroid which was I believe when I started peri-menopause, I have many blood test and the only thing they found is high liver enzymes, had a stool test found nothing, justing waiting for my estrogen tests to come back but the HRT specialist does believe it is low as I still have some hot flushes and other symptoms, hoping they will up my HRT and I am prayering big time that the increase will help my stomach as well, well I can only hope can I !!!
Total Hysterectomy 27th Dec '12
Climaval 2mg 30th Dec'12 to Jan 8th '14
Estradot 50mcg 9th Jan '14 to
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Could it be the Estradot? I believe one of the common side affects is nausea.
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I really don't think that extra oestrogen will help your stomach. If anything it might make it worse as extra oestrogen can cause nausea.
I think your stomach issues are completely separate from your HRT. There should be a reason that your liver test results are not good. Liver problems can cause general nausea. I would push for further investigation into this and treat your menopause as a completely different issue.
If your HRT is helping with flushes and anxiety then it's doing its job so your stomach problems are not related.
HRT can help IBS a little but as you really don't sound as if you have this as you have no bowel issues.
Go back to your GP and ask for further liver function tests. If you can sort that out then you may have the answer to your stomach problems.
Honeyb
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How high are your liver enzymes?
If you liver is not functioning properly and is inflamed, then you could be advised to stop the HRT-it's contraindicated for active liver disease. ( see the information in the packs on the leaflet.)
You will probably be ok short term but you do need to follow this through as soon as possible.
Silly question- but do you drink much ? ( booze?) If so it plays havoc with IBS and will also harm your liver.
If you have IBS then cut out the apricots and nuts- both are very high fibre and for most people with IBS they cause sever pain/ wind/ problems.
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I do eat a bland diet, I take a good probiotic, I dont have bloating or server diarrhea or constipation, I dont believe its IBS
And rightly so! Where from this idea?
Are your HRT oral or patches? Oral can affect liver - they were giving me heartburn, gone when on patches.
I must say I am lost - what exactly are your symptoms you are looking our advice for?
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Oral HRT doesn't affect the liver as such: the hormones pass through it during digestion, but it won't make a healthy liver unhealthy. But if you have an unhealthy liver then any drugs potentially can make it worse.
You have to take a higher dose orally to get the same effect as transdermal because some of the hormones are lost in the digestive process.
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I dont drink or smoke, the latest blood test was the 4th to come back showing raised liver enzymes(ALT) , also had a hepatitis test done and that was negative , they are referring me to a liver doctor but when that will be I dont know, I am on the patch and I still have the odd hot flush and I do get botts of mood swings, depression and general feelings of sadness, I have no energy. Not sure what advice I am looking for but I just help as this has gone on too long and my poor hubby is just does not know what to do , we have tried all sorts but nothing or no one helps, its not me to be poorly x
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Has your GP sent a referral letter, if so, ring the appts dept at the Hospital and see if you can take a 'cancellation' appt. and also ask what the waiting list for Consultant appts. is.
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If you have something wrong with your liver then you are likely to feel tired.
It might also give you a raised temperature though that is not the same as a hot flush.
It might help if your dr told you how high your liver enzymes were- there is a huge range and if it's just slightly then it's nothing to worry about. It all depends on the extent of the problem.
Try and rest and eat well.
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I think that at this stage we all have something wrong with our livers :-* To me it sounds now like a hormonal thing.
Sorry, I can't remember what HRT dose are you on (nor how old are you) - perhaps is just too low for you - considered increasing?
Testosterone seems to be in fashion nowadays too (I am just trying it myself and I think it works - no miracle but I do have bit more energy now and am less .. scared /crying lazy...whatever :o). Perhaps this could work for you too?
Here is a good website, besides one we are on, to read about wonders of HRT - because it makes sense: http://www.studd.co.uk/menopause.php
Best! :-*
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Lack of hormones to the best of my knowledge does not cause liver problems.
Call your GP and find out what's happening regarding your appointment. I honestly feel it's the cause of you feeling sick. I remember having jaundice many years ago and it took my stomach such a long while to come back to normal.
Honeyb
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Lack of hormones to the best of my knowledge does not cause liver problems.
Correct! But it can make one feel really bad without any particular organ damage and from a description Moonbeam gave here it looks as if this is how she feels - and does not know why. My bet is hormones because I know how bad I can feel when my hormones are low.
It is good you are having a thorough check-up, Moonbeam. Go for a higher dose and see what's happen. I tolerate Evorel better to Estradot as well, so perhaps it's worth trying a different maker too?
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The point seems to be that moonbeam has raised liver enzymes which will not be caused by hormones. There has to be another reason why this has happened. It's probably something very simple but when you have liver issues it causes nausea which is what moonbeam says she has.
You may well feel bad when you have low hormone levels but that has nothing to do with your liver.
Honeyb
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I can't understand why the GP would mention liver 'problems' if there is no need for further investigation >:(
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Moonbeam, try stopping the magnesium supplements. Too much can cause nausea, diarrhea, fatigue and muscle weakness. It may be that you are getting enough from your food and the supplements are tipping you into overdose.
Worth a try.
Don't worry too much about your liver tests. There are many mundane causes and the stress of worrying could also be the cause of your symptoms.
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Just another thought. Have you told your Doc what supplement you are taking. You would be surprised what vitamins and mineral can interact with.
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I have not taken the magnesium today, I am hoping the HRT specialist will increase my HRT but I have to wait for the estrogen results then he will write to my GP and me and then go from there, if they are not low then I guess he will not increase my HRT but its just a waiting game, he also said once my estrogen is sorted he may give me testosterone. I had a letter from the gastro doctor who said the bloods I had showed again the raised liver enzymes for which its the 4th time they have come back raised and they will write to the liver doctor for advise but what that means I dont know.
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You really should pursue this as there has to be a reason for your liver results.
Hope you can get it sorted soon.
Honeyb
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You really ought not to increase any type of drugs you use if you have abnormal liver tests.
This information as I said before about liver disease is a contraindication to using HRT.
It's important that you find out why your liver is showing signs of inflammation first, and before you add anything else that it has to process.
As I said, there are various levels of raised enzymes- they can be slightly raised or the levels can be in the 1000s if it's serious. Knowing your precise results would at least give you some knowledge- have you asked for a copy of your test results?
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Moonbeam, your Doc writing to the consultant is standard practice. Two years ago, when I had an ultrasound scan for suspected gallstones, extensive liver fat was found. My GP did a liver function test which was normal but wrote to the specialist re liver fat. Don't forget GP stands for General Practitioner, meaning they don't know everything about everything. The specialist then wrote back giving suggestions as to what might be the cause. My GP then did other tests which ruled out the serious causes and it was decided it was just because I am overweight.
So don't panic, chances are the cause is no big deal. I'm sure that if the result was very high he would have sent you straight to the specialist.
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I forgot to mention that I did stop the Amitriptyline a few days ago cause I was worried about its affects on my stomach, I have only been on them a month cause I suffer from real bad neck pain and headaches, it has helped and I have noticed today I have had a headache most of the day and dont know whether to have one as normal paracetamol dont work cant take codeine makes me sick and cant take ibuprofen either, but as I said before this stomach problem has been going on for 19 months now but whether it is aggravating it I dont know but if I dont take the blinking pills I suffer with neck pain and headaches so I am in a no win situation . I am sorry to be a pain in the butt but while I am sitting here my stomach is burning away I feel a bit sickly and it feels like my stomach is pushing up into my ribs, its horrible , I feel I am getting no help from the gastro doctors , the Esomperazole dont help much but I cant see it linked to the raised liver enzymes and if that was a concern I would of seen a liver person sooner so its obviously not serious, dont really no what else to do now :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I didn't get any relief from Amitriptalene. (sp)
Burning in the stomach can be excess acid, hunger, spicy foods ……… how about old fashioned Milk of Magnesia liquid or tablets? Paracetamol doesn't ease pain for me, I take Nurofen or Anadin.
Neck pain can cause headaches. Headaches can be caused by taking too much pain relief ….. when do you see your GP again?
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Could purely be a stress thing. Acid stomach, head and neck pain (muscle tension), could just be the symptoms and stress/anxiety the cause.
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Just googled Esomperazole and all your symptoms are listed as common side effects. Sounds like a case of the medicine making the patient worse.
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Moonbean,
I don't know what medications you are on but for most medications metabolism occurs in the liver via various enzymes. For example Statins are metabolized by the liver and excreted by the kidneys. I am on these and pain medications which are also metabolised by the liver. As had been said supplements can also be metabolised via the liver.
I have liver function tests (LFTs) because of this. So it may simply be that something you are taking is causing the raised reading. My were high once when I was taking a short term drug but then went back down to normal when I stopped that med.
So try not to worry (like I did) There are about 6 different enzymes in the liver which can make up a LFT. ALT is just one. Raised levels does not necessary mean abnormally high.
Like Sara2 says you could go back and ask you GP and ask for a copy of the test result and/or ask what the reading is compared with the “normal†range. Normally the lab report will show the range they use to determine raised or abnormal. Do not start looking this up on Dr Google because the different laboratories who do the tests often use different test “ranges†for the blood results and also bear in mind the meaning of these readings and ranges depend on other factors, like age and gender.
Try not to worry.
Lubylou
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Hi been on Esomperazole for only a month but before that Omperazole and I know they have side effects but even with the effects they still dont help my stomach, told this to gastro doctor and all she done was change them to the Esomperazole but still so far no joy, she said its IBS gave me a leaflet and sent me home, had a letter saying my stool sample was fine, the blood test for hepatitis for fine but my liver enzymes were high (again) but also said I am going to have a camera to check my lower colon, when I have my stomach pill when I wake it sort of makes my stomach bloat for a while, I dont eat for an hour, i dont eat wheat and only drink lactose free stuff, dont eat cauli and sprouts or apples, when I do succumb to a teeny tiny bit of chocy I feel bluhhhhhh, I have had a Amitriptlyine today as my neck and head was hurting big time , I will wait till next week and ring my GP about my liver tests and go from there, I pray most nights for all this stomach problems to go away and fo me to feel somewhat normal again,touch wood :ange: :ange: :ange: :) :)
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There is no quick treatment for raised liver enzymes- the treatment is to remove whatever is causing the problem. If the liver is in a very bad state then steroids are given to reduce the inflammation.
ANY drug can raise liver enzymes.
You need a scan to see if your liver is enlarged and an endoscope into your stomach to see what is going on.
The drugs you are taking for your stomach are for acid stomach often caused by stress. IBS is totally different because it affects the colon rather than the stomach.
Your drs should be looking into 3 different lots of symptoms- IBS, your acid stomach and your liver.
I feel you are being fobbed off so hope you get some treatment.
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Your drs should be looking into 3 different lots of symptoms- IBS, your acid stomach and your liver.
I feel you are being fobbed off so hope you get some treatment.
I agree with what Sara2 said, IBS and acid stomach are two different things (with different treatments/medications to alleviate symptoms) and shouldn't be lumped together as IBS.
Lubylou
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My IBS is 'slow transit' in that I feel I need to 'go' but nowt happens >:( ........... fortunately it results in painful spasms rarely .......
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I do believe I am being fobbed off, I dont think its IBS but I dont know what else to do ???
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Really the only thing you can do is go back to your GP with a list of questions and try and get some answers. It's not fair of them to leave you like this so you must insist on the right treatment.
Maybe take your hubby with you for some support.
Honeyb
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I will have to, my son had some areo balls so I had 3 with a cupper and now I feel sick and have a burning pain, fed up to say the least >:( >:(
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What on Earth is an aero ball :-\ ……….. how about seeing your Practice Nurse instead? and keeping a food diary ….
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Aero sorry mint flavour in balls lovely but god they made me feel sicky and my stomach was burning, it seems my stomach does not like chocolate, curries and any spicy foods, just boring bland food, I dont get bloaty nor diarrhea or constipated, I can go to the toilet up to 5 times a day but its normal not runny or nothing, I dont have cramping or nothing neither, just burning stomach nausea and a pressure type feeling under my ribs, dont eat crap food like big M's, loads crisps or biscuits , sweets, drink chamomile tea but I do also like a normal cupper, eat loads of bananas, I like grapes, I eat pretty good but I am overweight a bit, and its all gone around the middle.
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If you eat that amount of chocolates !!! ……… cut out the chamomile tea and drink proper tea, plenty of dilute juice (not squash), bottled water, grapes can be acidic = sore guts. Ginger however is a gut easer, used in many conditions including travel sickness.
Go onto a mild food diet. Eat porridge or slow release breakfast; lots of chicken/rice/pasta; add grated ginger to the rice: less acidic foods; plenty of 'dry biscuits, i.e. cream crackers/Rich T, ginger biscuits - for at least 6/7 days. This cuts out anything that might aggravate the gut lining. (My Vet always recommended chicken and rice when the pets were poorly ;)).
If you need a bathroom visit then eat a dry biscuit before going back to sleep. Helps keep the stomach acids 'working' on something.
LIVE yoghurt - 1 tablespoon several times daily - helps the gut bacteria. Or a good pro-biotic. DO NOT eat within the hour of going to bed, because the food can lay 'heavy' causing heartburn, reflux etc.. Keep a food diary of EVERYTHING ;) you eat and drink ……..
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I dont eat chocolate normally but I did have 3 tiny balls like Malteseers but Aero thats all I had, I take Optibac probiotics which have 20 billion live microorganisms in, I do have bland boring food ie porridge, rice, chicken, bananas, I dont eat any thing wheat and I only have lactose free milk dont drink squashes, I dont eat biscuits or any thing spicy or rich. Why cut out chamomile tea, I was told it is better than tea, I have stopped taking vitamins and stopped the Magnesium, I do feel I eat quite healthly .
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Hi moonbeam - I was interested in the fact you use Optibac. I had this last autumn while having different antibiotics for a kidney infection. Although the antibiotics did upset my whole system things only began to improve once I stopped the Optibac. The doc thought it may have been a sensitivity to the capsule and advised me to still use it but to sprinkle it onto my food but I'm afraid I stopped using them altogether and felt much better. The probiotic drinks also give me bad stomach pain and diarrhoea.
Taz x
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Sparkle thanks for your response and hope you feel better soon, I know its all done to hormones, and stuff as it all started around the time I found a hugh fibroid, for which I think looking back I was in peri-menopause as well and its gone down hill since, yesterday I had some 2 bread rolls and some stick things which contain wheat and god last night I woke up and I felt sick had stomach pains so it must of been the wheat as the rest of my food was bland but you say alcohol burns you I did have 2 glass of wine so it could of been that as well, and Taz2 do you think stopping the Optibac will help, I have stopped the magnesium but still no change, maybe its worth a try, cant stop the Amitryptine as I have tried that and god my headaches came back with a vengeance,I do thank you ladies for all your comments and help :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :ange: :ange: :ange: :ange:
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I would try cutting out everything that's not from and the Doc and give yourself a couple of weeks to settle down. I don't think the cocktail of things you are taking are a good idea, as things interact. You can then find out what's a real symptom and whats caused by the meds.
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I can recommend a very informative book which was posted by an MM member a more then a few years ago, I bought if for my OH who suffers with bowel problems
Irritable Bowel Solutions: The essential guide to IBS, its causes and treatments by Dr John Hunter
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Rosebud57 I dont take a cocktail of things to be honest, Esomperazole 40mg in the morning upon waking and then a probiotic during the day and then about 7ish I will take the Amitryptline and thats it, I will from tomorrow not take the probiotics and see how I will then, thanks for the book Silverlady I will google search it and have a read, :)
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Just checked out the side effects for esomperazola and amitrypline. Both can cause stomach problems particularly the esomperazola. Also amitrypline interacts with alcohol and should be avoided.
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Hi a update on my IBS, been off all med now, example Esomperazole, Amitriptlyine, Colofac all stopped, my poor stomach feels like its on fire and the nausea is bad, I know if I go back to the doctor he will say why did I to stop the pills and tell me off and put me back on them even though they never worked, I am trying this new probiotics
http://www.elixirhealth.co.uk/natural-health-news-1.asp Solgar Probi 20 billion which sounds good, I have been on Bimuno a prebiotic now for months which was suppose to help but so far my stomach is no better, today I have lived on Gavison, my HRT and all that menopause stuff is great and my libido is back, just having a few VA problems but I can cope with that its just my blinking stomach, sorry to moan but just needed to talk to someone :) :)
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Have you read the new thread that Honeybun began today?
It can be trial and error to find something which eases gut symptoms. How about 'actimel' type drinks several times a day.
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CLKD
Yes say that thread this one has a different one Solgar Probi® 20 and 30 Billion contain the extensively documented probiotic Lactobacillus plantarum 299v (Lp299v) if you go on http://www.elixirhealth.co.uk website you can see a link on the left hand side Randi health column 'the alternate to IBS' you can read up about it and thats why I try it , also there is another VSL#3 which has good reviews. I do have Actimel but my kids keep drinking them so if I have 3 a week it be a good thing, need to get some more and tell them to keep off :)
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Your kids drink your Actimel because you allow them to ::)
Is it doing them good ;) …………. I 'went off' them so our chickens got the remainder of the pots ;D ……
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Why don't you post on my new thread and we can compare notes.
I know you say you have a burning stomach. Is this how it affects you? IBS is generally more bowel related and what it does when you eat. Pain,cramps, constipation and diahorrea.
Have you tried aloe Vera juice as its very soothing. When I cam off my meds for my stomach years,ago I had other things in place to try otherwise I could not have coped.
Honeyb
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I know I am soft, even my grandson goes in the fridge and helps himself , bless, I eat a Activia yogurt everyday, as well when I have them Actimel twice a day and when I get stressed my stomach plays up, just don't want to go down the PPI route again cause last time they never worked and to be honest nor does Gavison and Zantac gave me god awful headaches but I don't know what else to do ???
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Honeybun shall I post something on your thread then
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You are more than welcome if you want :)
Honeyb
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My IBS started because I didn't eat correctly from the age of 5, by the time I was 35 my gut spasm had stopped almost completely. I felt constantly bloated and very very sick every time I tried to eat, even a cuppa made me bloated.
Now it's worse if I don't go to the loo properly, like today I feel I need to empty my bowel but although I've been it's still 'full' >:( ………… Actimel certainly helps keep me regular but I've gone 'off' them ::)
At least your children are getting their probiotics regularly ;D
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My slow transit caused problems yesterday - after sitting on the loo for 20 mins I went, kind of, after which I felt really really ill ………… and don't talk to me about wind :-X
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I take digestive enzymes and licorice root tablets to help my Crohn's and IBS - worth a try, CLKD?
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YUK ;D ……… I ought to begin drinking Actimel again but don't fancy it ::) - worked for years ……..
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Have you tried Slippery Elm powder or Fybogel, CLKD? I expect you have!
Jenna x
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Fybogel :sick02: ------- bypassed the middle woman and shaken into the compost ;D - slippery elm ……. NOPE!
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Prunes, All Bran, nuts, .......or just buy Actimel ;D
Honeyb
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Love prunes - makes no difference
Nuts - used to eat a lot - made no difference
Actimel ……...